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good evening everyone

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welcome to the City of Kingston's special

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council meeting I will declare this

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meeting officially open at 702 pm

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we'll begin with an acknowledgment of

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country

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so the City of Kingston proudly

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acknowledges the Bunurong people of the

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Kulin Nation as the traditional owners

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and custodians of this land we pay our

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respects to their Elders past present

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and emerging as well as to any

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Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander

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Elders or community members with us

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today

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Council acknowledges the Bunurong's

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continuing relationships to the lands

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and waterways and respects that their

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spiritual identity is maintained through

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ancient ceremonies song lines Dance Art

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and living culture

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Council pays tribute to the invaluable

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contributions of the Bunurong and other

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Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander

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Elders who have guided and continue to

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guide the work that we do

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for the purposes of transparency this

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however for the purposes of Public

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Safety this public meeting is also being

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[Music]

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in accordance with council's resolution

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from the April 2023 ordinary council

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meeting this meeting has been called to

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afford submitters to the 2023-2024 draft

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budget the opportunity to present their

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submissions

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as part of the community engagement

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process currently being undertaken by

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Council

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the information provided from our

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presenters tonight will form part of the

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feedback to be presented to the 26th

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June special council meeting for Council

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to adopt the budget in accordance with

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the Local Government Act 2020.

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I would like to welcome our true

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presenters to tonight's meeting Stuart

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Mason who is here on behalf of the

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Chelsea Heights Football Netball Club as

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well as Jamie Johnson who was here on

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behalf of the Bonbeach YCW Junior

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sports club

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in accordance with rule 30 of council's

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governance rules

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as chair I will grant each presenter

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four minutes to present their submission

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to council under special circumstances

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and we'll move on to that item shortly

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sorry we should probably get two

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apologies first

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are there any apologies this evening

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from governments have received any

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do we need a motion mode to

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okay so move on to item two the

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foreshadow declaration by councilors

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officers or contracts contractors of any

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conflicts of interest

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I don't believe there are any this

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evening councilors

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none

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noting there are no conflicts of

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interest submitted to this meeting we'll

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move on to

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next item which is the

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2023-24 budget submissions

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at this point in time I will ask

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Stuart if he could please take a seat

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at the table at the front

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and once you're there welcome

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if you can just turn on your microphone

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thank you Stuart and as I said you'll

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have four minutes to speak which will

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begin as soon as you start talking after

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which point you can take a seat back out

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and follow the rest of the meeting if

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you'd like I'll feel free to leave your

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feedback to as well so whenever you're

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ready Laura thank you

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um good evening everyone honorable mayor

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counselors and guests I'm here on behalf

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of the Chelsea Heights football netball

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club and also the Chelsea Heights

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Aspendale Gardens Cricket Club who's

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represented by their president behind me

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there Herman ?

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I've taken the Liberty to put a copy of

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um our proposal to everyone in there I

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think it's uh on page 13 which has also

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got some pictures in there as well which

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probably paint a bigger picture and

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rather me shouldn't the major sitting

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here talking about it so

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um

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we've we've currently got four football

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teams and uh including women's team and

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over 30 participants in that the problem

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we have at the moment is the facilities

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aren't allowing for we have we have

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three problems really uh the facilities

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aren't allowing for the women's

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participation in sport comfortably

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um we have as in the photos there we

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have the uh the only toilet in the

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building is actually there's one female

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toilet inside the building which

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accommodates on a game day possibly up

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to 60 players and also accommodates uh

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supporters support staff and all of um

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all of our committee and uh and

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supporters as well so

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that's inside the buildings which omad

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has got new carpet in there as well so

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we can't go in and out of there with

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boots that's one of our rules anyway

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um one of the other things we wanted to

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talk about as well was the showering

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facilities we've been lucky up to date

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that there's been no

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um really cold Icy wet winter days and

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uh the women haven't really needed to

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have a nice hot shower afterwards but

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they're all just open open

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um open showers and anyone can come and

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go at any time during uh during when the

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women are in there getting changed in

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that as well so we also

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where the uh umpires now we have seven

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umpires per game uh and half of those

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are women as well so they have to turn

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up in their outfits and leaving their

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outfits wet and muddy so

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um as you can see in the photos we what

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we're looking for there if we possibly

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can is to hopefully get a temporary fix

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so then the women can be accommodated

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for and then hopefully get put into it

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once the the budget or or Finance allows

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for us to have a permanent fix on that

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one of the other things we've got an

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issue with is our lighting

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um the AFL state that the lighting needs

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to be 50 Lux for uh for training and 100

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Lux for games we're lucky to have we've

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got eight Lux in one corner and the best

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I can come up with is about 18 Lux in

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certain points of the ground so it is a

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safety concern

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um I understand that that's quite a

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large a large chunk of money to to be

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thrown at something but as long as if we

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could just get some indication as to We

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Are on a list we are being listened to

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that we do need it one of the things I

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really wanted to get across as well and

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that's why we're very grateful that we

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could come here and speak in person as

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well as that that we want to get across

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it these aren't things that we don't

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want major upgrades we don't want major

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facility upgrades like some of the

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things that have been going on I

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understand it that's probably a thing of

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the past as well

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what we're after is needs we're after

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critical things to be able to get our

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club to survive so at the moment with

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the introduction of women the club's

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growing we can't continue to grow

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without without some facility upgrades

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so we ask that you please

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um look look at those look at our

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submissions and hopefully you can

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understand our point of view again

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one of the things that we've uh we've

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come across as well is that we don't

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have much storage in the place we've got

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a very small storage area that's about

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two meters by two meters

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um so all of our all of our barbecues

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any large items and that need to be

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stored in the away rooms or the umpire's

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room so every game day or every time

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that we go we've got a training session

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or something we have to pull all those

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out leave them outside obviously in the

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rain or wherever we can leave them and

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then we have to put all this stuff back

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in there at the end of each night so

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um to be able to get some sort of

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storage would be really great but our

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key thing is we really need the upgrade

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for the women's toilets and showers

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and we would really like to be able to

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get a um a a temporary fix to be able to

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accommodate them especially as we're

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getting into the colder parts of winter

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and that and also for the umpires so

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um

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yes of everything else is in the uh in

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in the um submission we've put there

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I've also put that request for Capital

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uh I think it was Capital Works which

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I've submitted as well

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um also on behalf of the qriket club The

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Cricket Club are looking at expanding as

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well and looking at

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um expanding with women's different age

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groups so women like Junior women and

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open age groups as well so those

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facilities would be used by both cricket

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and football we've also got netball

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which we don't have a team in at the

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moment but we will have probably one or

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two teams in next year so that's going

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to put a huge burden on on the small

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amount of facilities that we have for

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the women there so

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but um on behalf of the club I'd like to

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thank Yvonne for for the opportunity to

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come down to speak to you in person

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about it and I suppose if I don't know

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whether we open it for questions or if

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anyone's got any questions please

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thank you thank you very much Stuart

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uh we might just leave it there yeah so

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we're just going to bid over time but

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that's okay

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um and feel free if you can just take

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your seat you can stay for the rest of

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the meeting while we just deliberate

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obviously

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um just as a reminder we're not

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considering the budget right now it'll

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be taken to us for further discussions

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for when we adopt the draft budget in

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June yeah thank you very much thank you

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foreign

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I'll just invite as well now Jamie

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Johnson if you'd like to

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come up thank you

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and if you just press the uh switch on

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the microphone as well

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uh yep fantastic so same as before just

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as soon as you start you just have four

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minutes to speak and we'll begin as soon

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as you start thank you

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dear mayor councilors and Council

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officers thank you for giving me the

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opportunity to address you tonight as a

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representative of the Boom Beach ycw

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Junior sports club which includes the

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Boom Beach junior ycw junior football

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netball and Cricket clubs as well as all

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of our development programs by extension

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the Bridget St Louis Cricket Club are

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also a key stakeholder at the Eastern

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end of the bomb Beach Reserve with other

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users such as dog walkers personal

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trainers and local sports being done by

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our local schools

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I'd like to extend a special thank you

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to the to the mayor for visiting our

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club recently on several occasions and

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to cancel a how into councilor Oxley for

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their continued advocacy of much needed

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upgrades

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also I want to express our gratitude to

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the council officers for their recent

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visit to our site and their commitment

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for immediate repairs and maintenance

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work which has already started

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it was greatly appreciated and shows a

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genuine understanding of the importance

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of our sporting facilities to the

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community

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tonight I want to bring to your

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attention the pressing need for the

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Redevelopment and Renovations at Bond

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Beach ycw Club rooms additional car

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parking that's needed and the upgrade of

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oval 5 including Cricket Nets our

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Cricket Club has

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one usable Grandad of three

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over the last four seasons

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promoted context our club has a long

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history of over 70 years we currently

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have over a thousand registrations in

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service a vast section of the city of

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Kingston Community generally ranging

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from Karen to mordialloc and everywhere

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in between

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we are actively promoting in all of our

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codes a strong value of participation in

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community sport for all community

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members

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we've seen the most ever female

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registrations in our club and will

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continue to promote inclusions inclusion

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I should say from all sections of our

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community more than half of our

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registrations at the moment are female

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whilst we have no suitable change

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facilities for these participants

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we understand the current Financial

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climate and acknowledge that securing

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funding for a full master plan may not

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be achievable at this time however we

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are fully prepared to work

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collaboratively with the council to

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explore alternatives

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we are optimistic that we can work

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transparently with the council to

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achieve a compromise that meets all of

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the needs of the stakeholders

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we note that Kingston has a strategic

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plan for its Pavilions and we support

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the need for a thorough process for this

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and believe the need for Urgent

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attention is required to address the

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unmet critical needs to the broader Boom

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Beach ycw Community

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as you were aware these issues have

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existed and were identified in the 2008

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master plan

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unfortunately the degradation has

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continued and we continue to face these

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challenges of facilities that are

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substandard in terms of accessibility

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health and safety size and fit for

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purpose with the significant growth in

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our registrations and firm commitment to

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our growth strategy

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these will continue to worsen we believe

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the time is now to act and support our

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community by investing in much needed

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upgrades

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as a club we strongly value inclusion

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diverse Community participation while

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creating a sense of belonging by shaping

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and supporting a community that also

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hold these values Delaney upgrades will

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only lead to increased maintenance costs

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for the current facilities which will

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only escalate over time Furthermore with

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the predicted significant increase in

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building costs in the coming years

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acting now will save both time and money

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in the long run and will support the

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council's vision of engaging and

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supporting connectedness and Community

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participation in a positive way

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grateful to the city Kingston for

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providing this platform to express our

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concerns and aspirations the Palm Beach

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ycw Junior sports club is committed to

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working collaboratively with the council

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to ensure the best possible outcome for

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our members and the broader community

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we believe that by investing in the

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Redevelopment or innovation of the Bon

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Beach yzw Club room's additional car

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parking and the upgrade to oval five

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we're not only investing in our sporting

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facilities but also the health

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well-being and future of our community

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we can all work together to engage the

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community on this by doing this also it

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supports our combined values of United

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the community and supporting the vision

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of maintaining sense of belonging the

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positive Community impact will only

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exist well for decades to come

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again on behalf of the bom Beach barcw

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Community thank you for your time and

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your consideration

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foreign

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okay counselors I'll be looking for a

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motion

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thank you Council Oxley just the one

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that appears on the screen uh if I can

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just add that we thank submitters for

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their submissions this evening yeah of

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course

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and I'm looking for a secondar

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secondary Council of stacos

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Council Oxley thank you without

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rehashing what Stuart and Jamie have

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just gone through uh in terms of their

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the needs of their clubs and the variety

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of needs that they have had not just now

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but over a number of years and thank you

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both for attending this evening and with

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supporters from your clubs who I know

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are also watching online who couldn't be

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here this evening as well

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these are two clubs that have these

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needs now and that have had these needs

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for a number of years and it's something

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that I I really do thank them for being

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here this evening to not only put them

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forward from their perspective but to

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really put it as a priority for council

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at the Forefront

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I've been out to both of these clubs

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recently and seen firsthand the

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facilities and without trying to be

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offensive to either of the clubs

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they need some love

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um certainly the women's change rooms I

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know at Chelsea Heights footy Club

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um

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I'm trying to put it delicately didn't

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entirely smell very nice the showers

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weren't overly nice the urinals in the

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female change rooms weren't overly nice

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and just as an environment for women to

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come along and be happy and confident

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playing the sport that they obviously

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love is something that Council can

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certainly do something about I note in

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the email that councilors would have

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received just prior to this meeting

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giving a bit of an update as to where

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we're up to with Chelsea Heights and it

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seems as if and I'm not sure if this

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might be news to the footy Club so

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hopefully this is a bit of an update for

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you as well that we are working towards

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some temporary solutions in terms of the

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storage opportunities and potentially

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supportable facilities down there so I

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know the the team at active Kingston are

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working on that at the moment and

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hopefully that can be something that can

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come in the in the short term to

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alleviate some of those concerns which

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would be a fantastic outcome

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I know that we'll continue to work on

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that moving forward and I think that's a

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really positive outcome that has come

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from this submission process allowing

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people to come along share those

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concerns in a public council meeting to

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mean that they are heard that council is

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taking these seriously along with all

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the other submissions that we have

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received that couldn't be here this

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evening

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Bombay to icw councilor Howell and I

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have spoken about a lot we try and put

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it into every every item that comes to

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council to again put this as a as a

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priority for counseling at the Forefront

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for Council again is another club that

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really does need a bit of love we've

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been down there a couple of times now Mr

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Mayor you've seen the the state of the

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rooms down there and how much love those

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rooms need from Council and in reality

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both of these clubs they need it now

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and whilst I've had these conversations

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if we can't promise this overnight and

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it is a process but it is something that

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I want Council to really see the

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importance of to see the people here who

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have given up their Wednesday night to

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be here to put forward the needs of

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their Club

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and their committees are volunteers who

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are putting forward the needs of their

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club and have continued to put forward

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the needs of their club for years

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and I hope that very soon we can make

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this a very fruitful exercise for them

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to see some of those upgrades to see

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some of those maintenance issues

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resolved to get some of those temporary

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fixes in place what I really love about

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the two submitters that we've seen

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Tonight is their acknowledgment of the

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climate that we're in

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and the financial constraints that

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Council has

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and with that I think it is so

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incredibly important that we do thank

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them this evening but also acknowledge

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that we need to be able to provide some

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solutions and we need to be able to do

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that soon

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and it may not be the exact solutions

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that the clubs are asking for but if we

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can just get them on that list give them

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some certainty as to when they might be

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receiving their maintenance issues their

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upgrades and those types of things I

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think would just give the club some

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clarity and some ability to be able to

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plan to be able to get those extra girls

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teams in to be able to get those girls

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teams playing cricket and footy and make

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sure that they have the facilities to go

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with the incredible amount of dedication

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that comes from both of these clubs and

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all of the submissions that we've seen

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But particularly tonight these two clubs

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that have come along to submit so I

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really would like to thank our

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submitters for their submissions this

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evening and hopefully we can get some

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good outcomes for the both of you thank

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you thanks Council Oxley councilor State

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class

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uh thank you and I do support the motion

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and I'd also like to note that we also

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thank the hundreds of submitters to the

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talking Kingston process there have

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certainly been quite a number of

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community groups and organizations that

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have participated in all of the various

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forms and forums that we've enabled that

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our community to participate in as part

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of this ongoing budget process

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as a council it's been quite a long and

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drawn out

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process as you can imagine

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walking into

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the

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2019-20 budget process before half of

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the council came in we were in a healthy

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financial position we had quite good

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Financial reserves the building sector

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was in quite a good financial position

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we were really going gangbusters in

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terms of approving a lot of projects

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projects were relatively easy to get off

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the ground we had lots of tenderers

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applying to do work at Council

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we couldn't be in a more different

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environment today projects that we were

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getting off the ground for around 6

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million or seven million dollars and now

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coming back with tenders costing us 11

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12 million dollars for the same kind of

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work

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um so I think there was an

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acknowledgment by the submitters tonight

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that those days are behind us and that

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council is going to have to find a way

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to make the dollars go further I'm very

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happy to hear both in the submissions

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that we've received previously but also

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in the verbal submissions that have been

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made tonight and that inclusion is an

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important part of the priorities of our

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clubs women's sport is very important to

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this Council we want to see all of the

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clubs whether they're AFL with their

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Cricket whether they're soccer whatever

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the sport is that have been previously

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done dominated by men prioritize women's

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sport and that's where our Council

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dollars need to go so that women can

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have access to equal facilities and

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equal opportunities to sporting

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facilities as the guys have had for so

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many years this has been a difficult

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budget as I said with difficult cost

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pressures the budget proposes a 3.5

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percent rate increase

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with a about a seven percent

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um

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real increase in

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um in in the the cost of doing business

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and that's that's the cost

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um that's being applied just in terms of

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the basket of goods for CPI the basket

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of goods as we know for Council is much

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higher we don't have a figure on that

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from Victoria but work that's been done

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by local government Peak bodies from

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other parts of the country show that the

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CPI for local government is much higher

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than the seven percent and on projects

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at least the escalation factor is closer

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to 25 percent or more so it's a very

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difficult time for local government but

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I do endorse the motion that's been put

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forward tonight by councilor

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thank you councilor stacos

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cancel how

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thank you and thank you to both

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gentlemen for getting up and speaking

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tonight on behalf of your clubs it's

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great to hear from you speak so

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passionately about this because the

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lifeblood of a lot of communities is

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community sport uh one beach ycw are a

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destination for junior sport between

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Karim and aspendale they're a

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destination and as we heard from the

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president Jamie Johnson their facility

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there's about 70 years old

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70 years old

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and that facility is not fit for purpose

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it's unsuitable for young boys and girls

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and every single person that's been down

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there whether it's staff or counselors

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or other community members or even our

00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:06.279
federal and state politicians can see

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that

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Stevie Wonder could see that believe me

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he would see the same thing this

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facility needs attention

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and what we're talking to tonight is

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practical outcomes now with Palm Beach

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ycw they had the 8.55 million dollar

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Clubhouse

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the commercial reality is that that is

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going to be potentially

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not possible in the current climate but

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they are open to other possibilities

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including renovations

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and I've spoken to a builder about a

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full renovation of the ground floor and

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a first floor extension coming back

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about a million dollars I don't believe

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the council is particularly competitive

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when it goes to Tender and I know that

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some of the outcomes that the Chelsea

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Football Club will still see Heights

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football club sorry are looking for I do

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believe that a lot of those would be

00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:05.279
more achievable if we were more

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competitive when we went out to Market

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uh it seems to me there's a hell of a

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lot of Builders out there and

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contractors that are pretty comfortable

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putting in for 3.5 the full times the

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cost

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I know they'll get the work

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so is it possible we can work through

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that and change it as we go forward

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because quite clearly as with her

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tonight there is inflation there's

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impacting our construction costs but

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there's also significant needs from the

00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:32.759
community of Chelsea Heights and I'm

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sure that the members of of that club

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don't just come from Chelsea Heights and

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also for from one beach ycw which is a

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destination so again destination for

00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:41.920
junior sport

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not for Bond Beach but for the Carrom to

00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:46.440
ask now catchment and we need to look at

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practical outcomes that we can Implement

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in the near future and I want to thank

00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:52.440
again both gentlemen for getting up and

00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:56.920
speaking thank you thanks councilor Howe

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I might just make a few comments before

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I ask Council Oxley if she'd like to

00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:03.559
close

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um just to really reiterate the process

00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:07.000
that council is undergoing in terms of

00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:09.839
our budget so budgetary submissions and

00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.319
really talk about the new process that

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we've undertaken in talking Kingston to

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thank the submitters as well for their

00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:17.519
time and in particular the Bond video

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icw for inviting me down to their club

00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.759
house I think I will reach out to

00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.079
yourself Stuart probably in the near

00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:27.519
future to come and visit your facility

00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:28.960
as well

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um if you'll have me

00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:32.200
um

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but also just to talk more broadly about

00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:35.920
our talking Kingston submission we

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received over 160 submissions and it's a

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new process that we're undertaking with

00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:41.319
our budget at the moment I know we had

00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:43.119
to call for this through a council

00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:44.440
resolution

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um which is really fortunate because we

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have the opportunity to hear from our

00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.079
submitters as well in person

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um but the talking Kingston submission

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is a year-long process a year-round

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process I should say which affords the

00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:56.799
opportunity for anyone to make a

00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.680
submission at any time for consideration

00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:02.039
by Council on any projects big or small

00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:05.279
that they see fit and a large portion of

00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:08.079
those submissions are almost immediately

00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.559
addressed and responded to if they're

00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:11.960
not something that we can do in the

00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:13.319
foreseeable future

00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:16.079
they're referred to for future budgetary

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consideration which is what those 160

00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.319
are if we've got existing budget line

00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:23.880
items for some of those submissions then

00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:26.200
they are actually put into the list as

00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:28.279
we've referenced before about a list

00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:31.079
hypothetical list that we look into but

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I wanted to thank those submitters as

00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:36.160
well for their their time thank both the

00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:38.400
clubs for their time as well

00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.799
and we'll ask Council Oxley if she'd

00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.079
like to close thank you just briefly uh

00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.160
before we obviously vote on this one I

00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.079
think it's really important that the

00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:51.079
clubs do understand that process and all

00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:52.559
of our submitters do understand that

00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.079
process I think we've obviously had some

00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:56.960
learnings from this new consultation

00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:58.680
process that we've been doing and making

00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:00.319
sure that we do provide the opportunity

00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.160
for residents ratepayers Community clubs

00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:04.839
to come along and do this public

00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:06.440
submission process I think it's

00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:08.200
incredibly valuable to hear directly

00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:09.359
from them

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as much as I'd like to not have to have

00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:14.319
you waste a Wednesday night I don't

00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:16.440
think it's wasted at all it is

00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:17.960
incredibly valuable for us to hear

00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:20.680
directly from them so would like to see

00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:22.799
that included in in future processes for

00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:25.119
consultation and the other thing that I

00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:28.000
did flag with the general manager

00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.039
beforehand is making sure that we're

00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:31.839
able to actually get those responses

00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:34.559
back from offices and and document that

00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:36.880
in a council report so that we can

00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:38.960
actually see those responses from all

00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:40.720
these submissions to make sure that

00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:42.279
councilors are seeing them to make sure

00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:43.559
that we know what's happening with each

00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:45.559
one of these and the councilors over the

00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:47.319
following years can follow these up to

00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:48.960
make sure that we are responsive to the

00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:50.799
community needs and make sure that even

00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:53.200
if that is in one two three years time

00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:55.599
that these priorities are indeed not

00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.759
forgotten thank you and thank you again

00:29:57.839 --> 00:29:59.880
for coming along this evening

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Council Oxley

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I'll put this to the vote all those in

00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:08.279
favor

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I declare that carried

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I don't believe there are

00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:18.960
business then

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okay I will declare this meeting

00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.640
officially closed at 7 33 pm

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thank you all very much


