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everyone thank you very much for joining

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us for our first meeting of the year

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Monday the 29th of January I will now

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declare this meeting open at 7:05

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p.m. just before we do commence um

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formalities there's a couple of items

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that I'd like to run through and I would

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like to begin by acknowledging the

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Bunurong People of the Kulin Nation and

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thank them for their very warm

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hospitality on Friday it was wonderful

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to be able to come together and

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celebrate the strength of culture and

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our connection to this land that thousands of

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years and generations of people have

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cared for I'd like to um pay my respects

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on behalf of all of us here to  Elders

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past and

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present we have also our community in

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the gallery so I'd like to very much 

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welcome you and thank you for attending

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and there may also be community members

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with us online and this is such an

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important part of our Council meetings I

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do want to share a very heartfelt

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thank you for  everyone who chooses to

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attend our Council meetings and

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participate in this

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process we do have our recording

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underway so  that people are aware

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there's  recording that is archived

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and available on our council's website

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and we're also being live streamed we

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also have CCTV and we do our best to

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maintain privacy but as a visitor in the

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public gallery just please note your

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presence may be

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recorded again just reminding everyone

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that uyour attendance here is 

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really about observing the procedure of

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council and that there's a lot of other

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avenues for you to provide feedback um

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if you do wish to do that via individual

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councilors or  through Council itself

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in terms of your thoughts on Council

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items so would ask that if you could 

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keep noise to a minimum that would be

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wonderful it really helps our Council

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meetings run smoothly we also ask that

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no photographic audio or video

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recording equipment is used and I can

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see that we've got the iPads that have

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been handed out  if you do need those

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they have the electronic agendas and you

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should be able to see on the screen just

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there up the

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front just very briefly a few remarks

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this is our first meeting back for the

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year and  as I have been reminding

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everyone there's not long to go now in

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this year left with Council meetings we

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have  eight months remaining I did

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want to just pause  and welcome

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everyone back that's councilors our

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staff and most importantly our community

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and I wanted to share a thank you with

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all of our staff for their hard work

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over the Christmas and New Year period

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it was a very busy time and we had a lot

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of people really stepping up and

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demonstrating strong leadership and I'm

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very proud to be working along side an

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organization that really prides itself

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and and takes the challenges that we

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face very seriously and there are

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challenges I don't deny that what I do

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love is that we work with a team of

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people who really care I'd also um like

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to thank the Community for keeping safe over

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summer and being so kind and respectful

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towards one another it was wonderful to

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see you out at a lot of

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events we'll move into the formal part

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of the agenda now and I'll note

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apologies from the following councilors

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councilor Eden councilor Hua and councilor

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Oxley and I'll just ask that we

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um move to note that please thank you

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councilor Staikos seconded councilor

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Davies

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councilors I don't believe that any

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debate is required on this matter so

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I'll put this item to the

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vote and I'll ask all those in favour to

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please raise your

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hand while we undergo this process I'll

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just explain for those who are viewing

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our meeting in the gallery or

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online uh following a report that we

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undertook last year to undertake a

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trial to record the voting of each

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individual councilor you'll be able to

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see there on the screen that we're going

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going through the names of the

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councilors who are voting  for and

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against and

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abstaining I believe you just need to

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record my

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vote so that's the first time we've done

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that that was great thank you to the

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governance team will keep working

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through that and I declare that that has

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been

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carried on to our second item tonight

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we have the confirmation of the minutes

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of previous meetings councilors we have a

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motion thank you councilor Staikos moving

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that item councilor Davies

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seconding and again I'll ask all those

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sorry we'll just wait for one

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moment councilor Staikos is moving the

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item and councilor Davies say second the

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item I don't believe this matter

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requires any debate councilors I'll put

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this item to the vote all those in favour

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please raise your

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hand

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and I'll declare that that item is

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carried item three is for shadowed

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declaration by councilors offices or

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contracts of any conflict of interest

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are there any declaration thank you

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councilor

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Hill thank you Mayor JDB I'd like to

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note a conflict of interest with item

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7.5 and confirm uh that written notice

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has been given to the CEO as per our

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governance rules

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wonderful thank you councilor Hill that

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has been

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noted all right item four is petitions

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and we have had no petitions submitted

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so we can move on to item number five

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which is delegates report councilor

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statements and presentation of awards I

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believe councilor Saab you would like to

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make a councilor statement thank

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you thank you Madame Mayor um and I wish

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I could be there in person to 

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present this particular statement and

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join  which I understand are some of

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the family members I just wanted to

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take a moment to remember the former

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Mayor of the City of Moorabbin Neil W

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Hamilton who has passed away I was very

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fortunate to have the pleasure even just

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very briefly to sit down and meet Neil

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when I was Mayor some months ago uh Neil's

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granddaughter Anne and her husband Daniel

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reached out to me and told me all about

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Neil and I of course took up the offer

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to come uh chat and catch up with 

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him Mayor to Mayou um and at the time I met him

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from everything I had heard about him I

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felt he was the same dynamic councilor

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and mayor who served his community with

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sincerity and with energy uh and this

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was confirmed to me by his former

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colleague  and a former councilor for

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the City of Kingston Ron Brownley as

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well Neil was a councilor from 1984 to

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1994 and from 91 to '92 he served as the

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Mayor of the City of Moorabbin which later

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merged with four other City councils to

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form the City of

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Kingston as a local business owner and a

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well-connected  community

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leader local employment and bolstering

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skills training for young people were a

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real key focus for him over his time as

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Mayor and Councilor he helped establish

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a local business Network group and the

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Moorabbin Business Awards which ran for more

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than 25

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years looking after older community

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members was also a really key priority

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for him and as an active member of the

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Age Services committee Neil had a key

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role in raising funds to deliver the

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Warrawee Age Care home in Bentleigh now in the

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City of Glen

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Eira Neil is remembered not only as a

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councilor and a mayor who gave his time

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generously but also as a family

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man now I I also wanted to provide a bit

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of uh an anecdotal story that Neil

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shared with me and of course uh back

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then the way Council operated  has 

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since changed um but I will go on

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forever as long as I continue to

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participate in Council and and in local

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government and volunteer my time um

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recall the very endearing story that

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Neil told me about his incredible and

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very interesting method for fundraising

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when he was the mayor Neil purchased a 

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Harley-Davidson  and drove that

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Harley-Davidson into Southland shopping

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centre then coralled a large

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volunteer force and proceeded to sell

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raffle tickets raising I believe at the

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time over $40,000 towards the Mayor's

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charitable fund  he of course then

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went on and as he tells me barged up to

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the City clerk and demanded a

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reimbursement for the purchase of the

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Harley-Davidson instead of asking for

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permission um but like I said a very

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different way of working now but I think

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that is so emblematic of such a real

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incredible generous icon of kindness um

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and we were so fortunate to have his

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contributions and work and volunteerism

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into the City of Moorabbin in now City of

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Kingston um this evening on behalf of

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our mayor our councilors our staff um

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our community who have benefited from

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his contributions and knew him well um

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his former colleagues who have spoken at

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length with me about him um I wanted to

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offer my heartfelt condolences to his

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wonderful his wonderful family to his

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wife Judy

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and his grandkids thank you thank you

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very much councilor Saab and it's

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wonderful to have you had shared such a

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personal connection and I'll also thank

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former councilor Ron Brownley who's with

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us this evening um as you have been so

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many times and thank you for always

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participating um it was lovely to hear

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the reflections of Mr Hamilton's life

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recently at the service and very

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touching to see how many people he had

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been able to impact upon during his time

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as a councilor and a good reminder for

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for us

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too thank you would any other councilors

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wish to make uh a

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statement no I'll just then move to

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 a statement from the mayor on behalf

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of councilors in relation to the

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Australian honours and awards and we were

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very very lucky to have had uh two

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residents from the City of Kingston uh

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recipients of

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awards these  awards are provided to

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 recipients who  have outstanding

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service and contributions and they come

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from across the country and from all

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walks of life and some are well known

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but the majority are unsung heroes and

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that's really something I'd like to

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highlight with Community we recently had

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our community grants program open and we

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talk a lot about the unsung heroes some

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of you in the room and some of out in

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the

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community so it's so important that we

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recognize that contribution you make we

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have uh Mrs Janette Marie Withers who

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was awarded an OAM  Mrs Withers is

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from Patterson Lakes and her um OAM was

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awarded for service to youth through

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guiding so thank you for such an

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important contribution um many of us in

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the room have done Girl Guides that's a

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wonderful um wonderful program we have

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Miss Christine Lempic Fitzherbert an

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OAM and  Miss Fitzherbert is from

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Mentone and her award was for the service

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to the community through a range of

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organizations finally we have uh someone

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who's not a resident but has been a

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long-standing I guess stakeholder for

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the City of Kingston Miss Christine

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Couture who lives in Hawthorn her award

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for the AO was for significant service

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to education and to the community of

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Victoria and we've been very grateful to

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Miss Couture for her guidance throughout

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our time as

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councilors all right so I think that

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moves us from councilor statements onto

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our next item of the agenda which is

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question time so I will now um ask the

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CEO but I I know councilor Davies you've

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just raised your hand um yes I just wanted

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to move a motion in relation to question

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time thank

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you um I move that question time be

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limited I think it's actually on the

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screen oh thank you wonderful so you

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move what's on the screen do we have any

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counsel wishing to second that item

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councilor

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stos councilor Davies I'll just explain

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this briefly for those of you who are at

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the December meeting you will realize

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that we actually combined our ordinary

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council meeting with our planning

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committee meeting we had I actually

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can't remember how many questions we had

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at that time but it uh the question time

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went for 40 minutes and the meeting

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itself ended in the early hours of

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Tuesday Morning um today we have I

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understand 22 questions which even if we

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spent only two minutes in reading it out

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and responding that would be um almost

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an hour of our time and so my motion

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today is that the questions we can get

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to in 15 minutes we get to and every

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other P question which is not answered

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will receive a written response so they

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will uh obviously get their answer they

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just will not get it tonight um I think

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that's an efficient use tonight because

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we are combining two meetings we have a

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planning meeting and an ordinary council

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meeting taking place tonight thank you

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thank you councilor Davies councilor

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stost to you wish to speak would any

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councilor wish to debate this

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item councilors I'll put this item to

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the vote all those in

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favour that believe that is carried I'll

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just note that um we um think one of our

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councils is having some IT issues and

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will rejoin us

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shortly and I'll will declare that

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carried thank you

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I'll now hand over to the

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CEO thank you mayor the questions will

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be read out in the order that they were

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received by Council staff from the last

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council meeting to uh 3: p.m. today in

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accordance with council's uh local

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law first two first two questions uh

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from the same author I will read

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together for the purpose of um saving

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time and they will be responded to by

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the general manager of planning in place

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the questions are from rosemary West and

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they are would Council consider

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proposing instead of a Road overpass

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over the railway line close to the

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existing Station Road Crossing as this

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would enable the protection of the

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remnant Coast Banksy Woodland along the

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railway line and in grow reserve and

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still enable a link between aten Park

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and Groves Reserve under the

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overpass and the second question is

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given the council has retained its

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present policy to discourage two story

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developments in backyards in the general

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residential Zone 3 and now most now in

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most of the neighborhood residential

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Zone proposed in Amendment

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20c why is this not mentioned in the

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officer report that recommend support

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for three two story developments in the

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backyard of 27 L Cresent aspal as I said

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I ask Mr Jonathan Gutman general manager

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planning a place to

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respond thank you through you mayy Burns

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in response to the first question

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Council understands the required grades

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for road crossing over the railway line

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would like likely be aesthetically and

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environmentally invasive well beyond the

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area that presently is provided for the

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road crossing Council will nonetheless

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make inquiries with the lxrp as to

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whether a road over pass over the

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railway line was considered in response

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to question two given the extent of

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planning policy to consider section 11

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of the officer report is a summary of

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the relevant policy being considered

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officers have assessed the application

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against this policy and have determine

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that the proposal adequately designs the

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up story components so that they do not

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cause adverse humanity and character

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impacts officers will generally

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emphasize this issue two story in the

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backyards or character issues in

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particular situations they believe the

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application does not address any adverse

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amenity and character

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impact next question is from Arena from

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hian um the question

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is people residents of Kingston are

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public meet meeting today is a public

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meeting the meeting Gallery is a public

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space king Council building were built

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by public tax money so how has it become

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that you are demanding from the public

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so much private information phone

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numbers addresses and emails are not

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related to public questions I'll ask Mr

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Dan Hogan general manager of customer

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and corporate support to

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respond thank you there are limitations

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to public questions as set out under our

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governance rules such as maximum a

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maximum of two questions per person and

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asking for a name and contact details

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allow us to apply the rules fairly for

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everyone sometimes we will also provide

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a response in writing after the meeting

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however it's important to understand if

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you do not want your name read out

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during the meeting there is a tick box

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to select that

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option next question is from Steven man

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last council meeting 11 December

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2024 test which will be 20123 you didn't

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answer my first question labeling it as

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being objectionable it appears that any

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question that you don't want to answer

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is objectionable the question is very

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simple as we all appreciate every

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country has its own flag um and it goes

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on to for a similar example of those

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sorts of things we've further considered

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the public question that you put at the

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last council meeting and we still deem

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it to be objectionable and not

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appropriate to answer in this public

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forum the next question is from

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Mark and his two questions are where is

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the information regarding Kingston

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council's total accumulated Surplus cash

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deposits viewable for the public to see

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easily and regularly without too much

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trouble and secondly where is the

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information kept and easily found by the

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public I.E searchable about the invest

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ments Kingston Council makes with this

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Surplus cash account or accounts I'll

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ask Mr Bernard Rowan Chief Financial

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Officer to

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respond thank you and through you mayor

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the information on forecast cach is

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available in the budget page 1048 50 80

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to 81 actual cach is then reported in

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the annual report Pages 112 127 and 150

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and then the quarterly Finance report

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all of these reports are on the council

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website the inv the Investments are held

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with financial institutions with credit

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ratings between AAA and Triple B plus

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thank you the next question is from

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Julia why did the general manager

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committee strengthening respond to my

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question by saying the council did not

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undertake any activities to promote the

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yes campaign when in fact Kingston

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Council actually gave or rented out a

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council building to attorney general

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Mark draf the Labour party and others to

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have their yes rally in Kingston how

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much was the cost of the high for this

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Council building on the p and Highway

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which Mark draus AG labor party and

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others spoke for the yes campaign I'll

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ask Sally Jones managing committee is

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strengthening to

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respond oh thank you through the mayor

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um from July to October 2023 Council

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held multiple free community forums

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across Kingston to assist in educating

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the community about the referendum and

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ask questions about the voice as the

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Attorney General of Australia and

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principal legal advisor to the

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Commonwealth government Mark draus MP

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was invited to present to the community

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on the process of referendums in

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Australia thank you Deborah next

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question are written minutes of the

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meetings for the following Council

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institution instituted committees kept

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and available for the public to see and

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inspect the LJ lgbtiq plus advisory

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committee council's access and Equity

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advisory committee the new lgbtqi plus

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subcommittee which is commencing in 2024

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in the interest of transparency can we

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please see the record of the minutes

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taken by these Council run lgbtqi plus

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committees I'll ask Sally Jones general

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manager committee strengthening to

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respond thank you you and through the

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mayor the minutes of council Community

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advisory committees are presented to

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councilors at councilor information

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sessions after each meeting has taken

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place per the terms of reference

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advocacy sorry ADV advisory committees

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have no delegated decision-making powers

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from Council therefore reports are not

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required to be presented for Council

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endorsement the next question is from

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rosemary question reads why is Council

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forming yet another extra new lgbtq plus

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advisory committee which will be

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integrated into the already existing

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Council access and Equity advisory

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committee in 2024 and also another lgbtq

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subcommittee again Ask Sally Jones

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general manager Community strengthening

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to respond thank you uh through the

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mayor council does not have an existing

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lgbtqia plus committee as part of

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council's rainbow local government

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commitment council is required to engage

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specifically with

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lgbtqia Plus members rather than have a

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dedicated committee Kingston

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operationalized This by including

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lgbtqia Plus members in the access and

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Equity advisory committee it is

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currently proposed that these members

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may be drawn upon twice per year as a

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subcommittee to speak to specific issues

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impacting

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lgbtqia plus community

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members thank

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you the next question is from Graham

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does council have committees and

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subcommittees devoted to traditional

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pro- family Pro parent pro- fatherhood

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and pro motherhood groups I'll ask S

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Jones general manager committee

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strengthening to respond thank you

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through the mayor council does not have

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committees and subcommittees

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specifically for families however

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provides a wide range of programs and

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services to families and children these

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services are inclusive of all family

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structure types including

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lgbtiqa plus

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families next question is from Elena in

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the interest of Main Ming a balance in

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the community will Council consider

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flying the flags of Christianity on the

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main holidays Greek Orthodox or Muslim

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religions who all have valid traditional

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Family Values at heart on your Council

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buildings I'll ask S Jones general

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manager committee strengthening to

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respond to the

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question uh excuse me Mr C with your

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Indulgence I might answer that

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one um last year Council endorsed its

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Civic flag policy that set out council's

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compliance with the Australian national

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flag protocols administered by the

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department of prime minister and cabinet

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council is not considering any changes

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to the policy to include religious

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observance thank you for that my

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apologies the next question is from Rose

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what exactly is the nature and specific

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intent of the lgbtqi plus action plan

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council's committed to further

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implementing in 2024 and mentioned in

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your response to Mr Alex briskin on 20

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November 2023 I'll ask Sally Jones

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general manager committee strengthening

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to respond thank thank you through the

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May Kingston is committed to building

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health and well-being for at risk or

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diverse communities to ensure an

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equitable approach this approach is

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embedded into our Municipal health and

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well-being plan which identifies uh

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multiple PR priority

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cohorts the next question is from rosin

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why do I have to enter into a contract

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and register with the private company

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bang the table where I have to reveal my

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personal details such as my age and even

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sexuality to be able to communicate and

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put forward a submission regarding the

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new governance changes which are

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proposed by Council who would Council

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authorized this private company bang the

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table to be the gatekeeper portal of

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communication between the people and the

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council I'll ask Dan Hogan general

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manager customer and corporate support

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to respond thank you Mr CEO deidentified

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demographic information is critical to

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better decision-making and inclusive

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community outcomes procurement of online

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systems are in accordance with council's

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procurement policy and the Local

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Government Act 2020 both of which are

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available

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on next question is from Louise has

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Kingston Council or any individual

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Council received any response from the

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state government regarding its zoning

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submission KC planning scheme Amendment

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C 203 Kingston housing strategy and

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neighborhood character

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study which was agreed to at a special

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planning meeting held on 14 August 2023

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what was the result of this c203

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submission I'll ask Mr Jonathan Goodman

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general manager planning and place to

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respond through May Davy Burns in

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submitting planning scheme Amendment c23

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the minister for planning for approval

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after the favourable report I received

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from independent planning panel officers

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of liaz with the Department of Transport

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and planning regarding any queries

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they've had councils yet to receive any

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formal response with respect to planning

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to the planning scheme Amendment and um

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it is at this time the result of the

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planning schem Amendment will be

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known thank you next question is from

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Rose

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what does Kingston Kingston Council mean

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by supporting the principle of

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leveraging the community to contribute

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to the goals of the Ser the climate and

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ecological emergency response plan as

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mentioned on in agenda 7.8 page 853 11

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December 2023 council meeting Mr Gutman

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will respond general manager planning in

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place thank you again through mayor

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David Burns the council's adopted

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climate and ecological emergency

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response plan provides significant

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Clarity around the role a range of

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segments of the king Kingson Community

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will claim working to assist Council in

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its carbon emissions reductions Target

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this work involves working with business

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to reduce Reliance on non-renewable

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energy sources or assisting residents to

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build or make changes to existing homes

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to allow them to live more energy

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efficiently this is what is meant by

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leveraging the

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community next question is from Lissa

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was a proposed tender from any other

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company or registered group community

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group other than zero Kingston 20

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Incorporated considered and discussed in

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confidence on the night of 11 December

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2023 how many other companies Andor

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committee organizations tended to

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Kingston City Council about this issue

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I'll ask Mr Jonathan Gman general

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manager planning a place to

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respond through May David Burns the

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report provided to Council on the 11th

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of December 2023 suggests the council

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consider a future report be brought back

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to council outlining a preferred

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approach aimed at supporting

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community-led climate action governance

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considerations and an estimate of any

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Financial commitment required the

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resolution of Council in this regard was

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publicly recorded and aligns with the

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officer report and

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recommendation the next question is from

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Katherine why is zero Kingston 2030

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Incorporated being regarded as a

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community Advisory Group when infected

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as a private company with an ABN number

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which is quoted headed up by a person

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called Mr Damen Williams who calls

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himself its president Mr Goodman will

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respond to the question

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for you mayor DAV Bones the ABN status

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of an organization is separate to how it

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is regarded as a community organization

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the O requires an ABN if an organization

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is running an Enterprise and is also

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responsible for tax and superannuation

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an organization must have an ABN to be

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registered as a charity with Australian

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Charities and not for profits commission

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thank

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you the next question is from Tim can

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the CEO and officers of Kingston Council

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assure the public that there are no

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conflicts of interest personal

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relationships between anyone working for

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Council or any of the councils

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themselves with the private company

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called Kingston net0 2020 Incorporated

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and its president I'll ask uh Mr Hogan

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general manager customer and corporate

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support to provide a response thank you

00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:16.519
officers and councilors are aware of

00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:18.119
conflict of interest provisions and

00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:19.720
obligations set out by the Local

00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:21.720
Government Act of 2020 and Kingston's

00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:24.160
governance rules as far as I'm aware as

00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:25.839
the Director responsible for Council

00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:27.160
governance there have been no conflicts

00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:28.759
of interest declared in regards to this

00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.839
matter whether bus

00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.920
personal thank you next question is from

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Robert why did you insert the word

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alleged a word I did not use into my

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question to you about how the

00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.599
london-based sortition foundation is

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aligned with the extremist organization

00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:46.960
called extension Rebellion which you the

00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:48.319
council contracted to select

00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:50.920
participants in the internal consult

00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.240
consultation group you call Kingston

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represent is it legal or ethical for

00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:56.920
Kingston Council to change the meeting

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and turn of a person's question by

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inserting words that is the two

00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:02.240
questions there were three questions on

00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.640
this question we only required to ask

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two so they the two questions I'm

00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.160
presenting I'll ask Mr Hogan to respond

00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.519
to that question thank you in preparing

00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:13.680
public questions for a council agenda

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officers must consider the governance

00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:17.279
rules questions are sometimes modified

00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:18.799
in order to meet the requirements of the

00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:20.279
rules in order to be read out and

00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:22.279
answered where questions are modified to

00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:24.200
comply or avoid legal risk it is

00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:26.440
declared this satisfies both legal and

00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:28.720
ethical consideration

00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.759
questions the question tabled from Colin

00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:35.440
in regard to the same topic um we have

00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.240
disallowed under governance rules 29

00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.880
39103 as a rep repetitive of a question

00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.400
that was raised previously and already

00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.759
answered the next question is from

00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:50.759
Lynette the question is how much did

00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:52.680
Kingston Council pay I.E the value of

00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:54.599
the whole contract to the london-based

00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:57.359
sortition foundation to select by

00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.559
algorithm the sample of residents of

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Kingston to become the consultation

00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:03.279
group of 200 plus people which

00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:05.519
councilors named Kingston represent have

00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:07.000
the selected residents received any

00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:08.960
payment in any form whatsoever from

00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:10.640
Kingston council at any stage of the

00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:13.319
selection and ongoing I'll ask Mr Hogan

00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:15.079
to respond to that

00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.440
question thank you Kingston paid stian

00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.359
Foundation approximately $28,800 for the

00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:22.680
recruitment of a representative

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Community panel panel members receive

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$50 per session they attend

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uh either of the 45 person

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representative collaborative engagement

00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:33.799
group or smaller subgroups of the

00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:35.480
representative Community panel which may

00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:38.440
have between five and 20

00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:40.440
participants thank you Mr Hogan Madame

00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.279
mayor that concludes the 15-minute time

00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:44.400
frame we've been given the following uh

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people who submitted questions will be

00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.559
provided a response in thank you thank

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you very much uh to our CEO and to our

00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.240
executive leadership team for the time

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you've taken sponsors Council as we're

00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:58.119
now moving into to our planning and

00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:01.319
place reports item 7.1 is town planning

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application decisions for December 2023

00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:06.079
do we have a

00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.920
motion councilor stos has moved and

00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:10.880
councilor Davey's actually had her hand

00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:12.759
up first sorry councilor Hill thank you

00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:14.599
does this item requireed debate

00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:16.720
councilors councilors I put the item

00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:18.720
straight to the vote all those in favour

00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:19.839
please raise your

00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:24.640
hand I declare that has been carried

00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:29.119
unanimously thank you the

00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:31.880
next item on the

00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.799
agenda is item

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7.2 which is 77 Lor cresant aspendale

00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:41.759
now uh I'm not aware that there are any

00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:43.319
objections that have been made any

00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:45.079
objectors who are here formally but I

00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:46.519
will just pause and check if there is

00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:48.720
anyone who did wish to speak as an

00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.000
objector to this

00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:54.200
item I don't see anyone online or in the

00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:57.319
chamber so I will now move to our

00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:01.200
applicant for 77 L Cresent Daniel Bowden

00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.319
who I believe is attending via Zoom so

00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:05.480
I'll just

00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.839
um confirm that he is online we'll just

00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:11.240
take a

00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.759
moment all right um welcome to the

00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:24.160
meeting Mr Bowen I'll just get you to

00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:25.519
give me a thumbs up to make sure you can

00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:27.400
hear me my apologies thank you take

00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:29.480
that's fine no worries um now I'm sure

00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:30.960
that you've been well briefed on the

00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.759
process but just to recap you have four

00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:35.799
minutes of speaking time which starts

00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.279
from the moment you start speaking and

00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:40.240
generally as a practice here we we do

00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.000
ask um we will interrupt and ask if you

00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:43.839
do go over four minutes to just um to

00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.359
cease your speaking time juster Equity

00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:49.240
uh you're very welcome to um stay on and

00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.240
watch the item being debated I would

00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.279
just ask that you turn off your um

00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:56.200
camera and your microphone when you do

00:32:56.279 --> 00:33:00.759
that any questions are you happy to

00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.640
proceed I no thank you I'll I'll proceed

00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:07.000
if that's okay wonderful thank you um

00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.000
thanks uh Madame mayor and councilors uh

00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:10.880
yes Daniel Bowen's my name I'm the town

00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.079
Planner on behalf of the applicant uh

00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:14.519
this is the second time that you will

00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:16.039
have considered this matter and it was

00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:18.160
lodged uh almost four years ago back in

00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.039
2020 we're again seeking your approval

00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:22.720
uh with the support of a very detailed

00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.799
officer's report um a key aspect of this

00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:28.759
matter is that the J uh included a vcap

00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.000
proposal uh that was refused and that

00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.359
officer's report outlines that quite

00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:35.680
clearly our approach with the second

00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.000
time uh around application was to work

00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.400
with Council officers and in particular

00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:42.440
your internal uh departments to make

00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:44.319
sure this proposal responded uh

00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:45.920
positively to each of the outstanding

00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.960
matters raised by Council and vcat and

00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:50.519
that resulted in some very significant

00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:52.319
changes to the scheme that are outlined

00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.519
in the officers report we see the

00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:56.279
cination of that being the referral

00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:58.680
section it's section seven of the report

00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:00.119
where there is seven separate

00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:01.720
departments that now support this

00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:03.920
proposal subject to conditions we want

00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:05.559
to indicate to you that we support the

00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.559
conditions in their entirety we say

00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:09.039
that's a fundamental difference from the

00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.360
first application that you considered

00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:12.960
the second matter I wanted to address

00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.159
you on was the in objector involvement

00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:18.360
in this application uh this is a a

00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:20.119
matter that has been very LLY contested

00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.320
by objectors for a number of years now

00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:23.800
we had a very positive meeting with

00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:26.360
residents late last year and rather than

00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.159
uh angle the carrot and saying well

00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:29.840
we'll make changes if you withdraw your

00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.559
objections we just made them voluntarily

00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:33.920
and they're outlined in the officers

00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:35.679
report again and they were to address

00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.559
the issues that were outstanding by uh

00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.119
residents surrounding there section 13

00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.440
of the officers report deal details that

00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:44.880
um very extensively and uh we agree with

00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:46.920
that assessment that says there is no

00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:48.519
outstanding matters that the off that

00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:49.719
the residents have raised that would

00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:51.360
warrant the refusal of this matter and

00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.840
this proposal has responded positively

00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:55.400
um we just want to finish by thanking

00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:56.599
the residents they've spent a lot of

00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:58.280
time and effort in this matter as of

00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:00.599
council officers and we think it's uh

00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:02.199
resulted in a proposal that's well and

00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.760
truly worthy of support and we'd ask you

00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:06.760
to uh commend the officer's report and

00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:08.519
recommend approval in accordance with

00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.280
that recommendation and just to confirm

00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:11.719
again that we support that

00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:13.159
recommendation and would not be

00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:14.719
challenging any of those conditions that

00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.719
have been uh raised by the officers and

00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:19.719
thanks for your time thank you very much

00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.440
Mr Bowden I really appreciate your um

00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.000
remarks if you could please now just

00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.280
turn off your camera that would be great

00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:27.679
thank you

00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:31.760
councilors I will now call for a

00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:35.480
motion councilor

00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:39.840
Beasley can you hear me yes we can

00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.119
fantastic um I move the officer's

00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:44.639
recommendation with the inclusion of a

00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:48.079
condition 1K to read as follows the

00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:50.960
storage shed of dwelling 3 relocated

00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:53.559
outside the tree protection zone of tree

00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:56.320
8 thank you councilor Bley do we have a

00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:58.800
second

00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:02.679
thank you councilor stos councilor

00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.199
Bley thank you mayor jdb uh as the

00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.079
applicant has mentioned there's a long

00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:11.480
history with this site it is a

00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:14.360
complicated site um and it's a very

00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.719
large site um with 2,000 over 2,000

00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:23.599
square meters uh there was a lot of

00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.239
um we'll just pause I believe um

00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:32.639
councilor bizley has been having some IT

00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:34.800
issues I'll just get some governance

00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:36.320
advice around next steps if you could

00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.480
just go give me a moment

00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.360
thank thank you for the pause I've just

00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.280
conferred with governance that um I am

00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:58.199
able to move to our second speaker uh

00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.039
whilst councilor Beasley I'm back is

00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:02.480
back thank you and thanks everyone for

00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.119
your patience please

00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:08.920
continue yeah uh so I do support it it's

00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:10.599
um it's one of those ones where we look

00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:12.880
at it and and we need to look at it in

00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.280
terms of what's acceptable I really do

00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.280
appreciate the residents uh who have

00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:20.800
submitted to this because I went through

00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:22.880
them with a fine tooth comb and then put

00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.280
the questions through to our planning

00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:27.960
officers who gave detailed responses and

00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:29.719
went and checked the site again so I

00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:31.679
really appreciate what the officers did

00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.760
in terms of making sure that we are

00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:36.039
protecting those trees um that we want

00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.199
to make sure that they keep and retain

00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:39.760
and that the solar panels are not

00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:43.119
affected um on the sites um of the n on

00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:46.920
the neighboring um resident sites um so

00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:49.039
while I'd have much i' much preferred to

00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.360
have seen four four dwellings rather

00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.639
than six um with one being a single um

00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:57.719
story dwelling I do think um this is now

00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.880
an acceptable proposal thank you thank

00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:05.320
you very much councilor basley councilor

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:12.599
stos thank you Council stakos this advis

00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.519
me that he will Reserve um councilors

00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.199
would anyone thank you councilor

00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:22.679
Hill thank you again May jdb um and uh

00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:25.320
look just in support of councilor

00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:27.880
Beasley's uh motion I just also wanted

00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.599
to note uh Council Beasley's sort of

00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.159
ongoing interest in this particular

00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:34.719
application as well like I know she's

00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:38.440
seen the journey right from the start um

00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:40.119
I think it's worth noting like whilst

00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:42.320
six objections is not insignificant it's

00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.320
obviously a lot less than6 which I

00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:48.360
believe the first application um sort of

00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:51.679
uh brought about 66 objections um and

00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:53.599
look it's really good to hear from an

00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:56.840
applicant speak the way um as we just

00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.239
heard as well where you know there's a

00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.360
clear willingness and and drive to to

00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:04.679
respond to the concerns of the

00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:06.320
neighboring residents and you know

00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.719
people that take an interest in in a

00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:11.039
planning matter like this so I think

00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:14.519
this is an example of like as um

00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:16.840
councilor Beasley said you know four

00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.199
might have been more F four dwellings on

00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:20.760
this site might have been more favourable

00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.719
but you know what I do have to look at

00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.360
the fact that it's a 21100 m uh Square

00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.239
site um which is not insignificant I I

00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.039
think you know when I when I balance it

00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:35.559
all up it's not an unreasonable um

00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:38.079
proposal that's being put forward uh I

00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:40.159
think the fact that the back dwelling is

00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.159
also single story does help in terms of

00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:44.199
the interfaces with neighboring

00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:48.039
properties also um there's clearly uh

00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:49.599
conditions in place with regards to

00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.119
those protected trees or you know the

00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.679
tree protection zones as well so I think

00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:56.559
on balance I'm I'm you know very

00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:58.000
comfortable with where this has landed

00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.000
so thank you thank you very much

00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.880
councilor Hill would any other councilor

00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:04.760
like to comment or debate if not I'll

00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.239
put this item to the vote oh sorry I'll

00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:10.639
um councilor stos did you no great

00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:12.400
councilor Beasley would you like to

00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:14.599
close no fantastic I will now put this

00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.599
item to the vote then and ask all those

00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:18.960
in favour to please raise your

00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.280
hand I declare that carried unanimously

00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.280
thank you item

00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:27.360
7.3

00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:33.000
156 Bal Road Menon we have one uh

00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:35.639
objector Evan papadopolis I believe is

00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:38.159
here in person so we'll just have

00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:40.000
security help you come through if you'd

00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:43.639
like to join us at the table here

00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:58.320
please

00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.239
good evening Mr papadas you're welcome

00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:02.400
to take a seat if that's more

00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:04.440
comfortable for you or or stand if that

00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.400
is your preference we don't mind um you

00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:08.719
may have just heard but I'll just run

00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:10.079
through the process I'm not sure if

00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:11.519
you've attended one of our meetings

00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:15.079
before um you will have four minutes to

00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:18.280
speak and outline um your objections it

00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.039
does go quite quickly um so just to bear

00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:22.559
that in mind there is a timer up on the

00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.440
screen U which might help you and um I

00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:27.519
would just ask that um you try and keep

00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:29.039
to the four minutes we do um we're

00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:30.360
pretty strict with the four minutes just

00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:32.679
to be fair for everyone and so if it

00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:34.039
does start to go over the 4 minutes I'll

00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.119
just need to ask you to um Step Back

00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:39.320
From the microphone um you to turn the

00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:40.920
microphone on you just click the button

00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:42.559
in the middle there and we'll just do a

00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.119
quick test and make sure that's okay

00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:48.360
testing all right that looks great um

00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:50.039
anything else any questions you're right

00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:53.840
to go wonderful I'll hand over to

00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.719
you thank you for listening to me mayor

00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:59.440
and councilors of Kingston i i a

00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:02.519
resident of 8 Balon Road Menon and I

00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:05.840
represent the three tenants on that 158

00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:10.000
1 2 and 3 um we have of you've got a a

00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:12.480
copy of all the objections uh in front

00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:14.559
of you and I hope um everything was

00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:16.320
pretty clear as to what we're objecting

00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.440
to objection main objections are the

00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:21.920
shadow schematics on uh from Taken on

00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:24.599
the 22nd of December before 11:00 a.m.

00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:26.400
currently no Shadow on any of these

00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:29.119
units unit 2 has four floor to ceiling

00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:31.400
Windows plus front entrance currently

00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:35.079
820 mm above the driveway which means we

00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:40.480
can see right into the backyard of

00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:43.199
the6 uh which will be an issue with

00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:46.039
privacy and security currently from the

00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:48.199
front door overextended fence can see as

00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:50.719
I said right down to 2 m Clos line

00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:52.440
height which is about that

00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:56.119
height and uh you'll see that on Photo 6

00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:59.079
seven and8 to fix the Privacy as we said

00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.159
or as I said a minute ago for the first

00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.280
two floors of the proposed units 1 to 5

00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:04.400
as well

00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.719
as8 meaning the new development proposed

00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:10.639
privacy all balconies that have me metal

00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:15.880
B um baton screening at 25% transparency

00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:17.320
this will certainly have an effect on

00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:20.440
the Privacy from the balconies and from

00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.400
the residents at 158 balcon Road it

00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:25.199
should be opay glass as a strong

00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.880
recommendation

00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.400
that will afford maximum privacy for

00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.760
both sound and vision external lighting

00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.960
is also an issue uh the balconies must

00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.000
be shielded the light must be

00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:41.360
shielded to include uh any intrusion

00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:45.000
into the sleeping Quarters on 158

00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:48.400
proposed 14 AC units 7 horsepower

00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.440
reverse cycle potentially all operating

00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:53.719
in unison will excel exceed noise levels

00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:56.440
at dawn to dusk or DUS to Dawn I should

00:43:56.519 --> 00:43:59.800
say my apologies um you can imagine if

00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:02.480
14 units are going one unit's acceptable

00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:05.159
noise level 14 at once which is quite

00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.519
within reasonable uh reason being

00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.760
reasonable um that will be excessive um

00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:15.719
the size of the the size of the um

00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:17.840
proposed development whilst it's got

00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:20.760
some SDA and uh maximum of accommodation

00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.639
to eight of TW it has 23 beds not eight

00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:26.880
which is a bit confusing

00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:29.199
the traffic and parking on Balon road is

00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:31.360
also horrific especially since the

00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:33.280
railway Gates were removed and an extra

00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:35.840
two sets of lights are put in within 300

00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.559
M of the traffic the exist the Old

00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:41.559
Railway crossing the fence Heights must

00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:46.840
be also adhere to as far as the um as as

00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:50.239
as request or as Works in Menon page

00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.920
35 uh the other issue is there's V there

00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:56.199
is no visitor parking for outside

00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.199
medical visitors or friendly or family

00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.119
visitors proposal assumes residents will

00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:03.599
not drive so rely on transport support

00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:06.360
from family and friends and medical um

00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:08.079
that will be a major issue because there

00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:09.840
is no

00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:11.719
parking that is me thank you for

00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:14.519
listening to me thank you very much Mr

00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:17.119
pav doublas for speaking to us tonight

00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.000
if you would mind please now returning

00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:20.440
to your seat in the gallery that would

00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.039
be very much

00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:27.159
appreciated thank you we now have the

00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.320
applicant Mark sovich who's joining us

00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:32.719
via

00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:43.440
Zoom thank you Mark I'll just check that

00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:45.519
you can hear me great and just a

00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:48.199
reminder that um you have four minutes

00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:50.239
of speaking time your speaking time

00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.639
begins as soon as you start speaking and

00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:54.840
we are quite strict with the time that

00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:57.119
you're allotted you're very welcome to

00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:58.239
stay and listen to the rest of the

00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:00.519
debate I just ask that you turn off your

00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:03.480
um microphone and

00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:06.920
camera I can see your um Zoom has just

00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:08.480
been reconnecting can I just check mark

00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:09.679
that you heard me then or do you need me

00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:11.679
to repeat myself no if you could repeat

00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:12.920
that please that would be great thank

00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:14.679
you not a problem just letting you know

00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:16.039
that you have four minutes of speaking

00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:18.159
time your time starts when you begin

00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:20.480
speaking we're quite strict with the

00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.079
timing and once you finish speaking um

00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:24.760
you're welcome to stay in the meeting

00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:26.400
but we do ask that you turn your camera

00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:29.719
and microphone off well thank you kindly

00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.039
uh good evening um Madam mayor and

00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:35.199
councilors Mark stovich is my name I'm a

00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:37.280
town planner and I represent the uh

00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.199
permit applicant uh you'd be aware that

00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:43.079
this is a very well-located site it's um

00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:45.840
located in the activity center Zone

00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.559
being a major activity center uh and it

00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:53.360
it's unusual because it has uh so many

00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:55.280
um positive attributes at a buts of Main

00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.000
Road it's opposite of Supermarket it has

00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.360
a driveway bule directly to its West it

00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.599
has an unusual laneway of 6 to 9 m in

00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:06.599
WID the rear as well uh and um

00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.239
importantly all of the land um AB

00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.639
butting and opposite is also located

00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.039
within the activity center zone so um we

00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.639
suggest you it's an entirely ideal site

00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.440
for this proposal in fact your own uh

00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.039
policies suggests that um housing at

00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:25.719
higher densities in this sort of form is

00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:29.000
encouraged in an activity center Zone um

00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:31.039
very quickly uh we started work with

00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.360
council's officers um back in November

00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:34.079
of

00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.000
2022 particularly the urban designer

00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.400
it's a unique site it's a site where

00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:41.719
four stories and up to 14 m is

00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:45.119
contemplated this is a four-story 12.6 M

00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:47.840
height building uh five two-bedroom

00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.360
dwellings and nine

00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:53.079
Community ability accommodation units

00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:55.760
which uh is very unique and it's one

00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:58.320
that's in significantly high demand in

00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:01.000
fact the statistics for um Kingston

00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:04.159
specifically here from the ndis suggest

00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.320
that uh 37 participants are actively

00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:09.800
seeking specialist disability

00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:12.559
accommodation either improved livability

00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.360
or high physical support and this

00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:19.719
development caters for both um so with

00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:21.880
the combination of two bedroom uh

00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.360
dwellings at the ground plus the nine

00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:27.039
SDA units we think it's really um well

00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:30.000
placed to satisfy critical Community

00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:34.119
needs in a really ideal location parking

00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:36.559
um is um meeting the relevant

00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.400
requirements council's Traffic Engineers

00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:40.760
are comfortable as well as the

00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:43.039
Department of Transport and I think it's

00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:46.239
important to note that in um uh late

00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:48.119
last year in November we met with a

00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:51.239
resident um group there were six uh

00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:54.440
objections one was actually uh withdrawn

00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:56.679
the property immediately to the east but

00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:59.119
in terms of the response to that a

00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.039
number of the conditions that you see in

00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:03.519
the recommendation um also fell out of

00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:05.320
discussions with the officers as a

00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.920
result of that meeting around U

00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.920
centralized activity uh sorry um air

00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.000
conditioning condenser units boundary

00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.480
paling fence Heights compliance

00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:17.800
screening construction management plan

00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:20.039
those sorts of issues um to deal with

00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.760
some of the immediate amenity concerns

00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:26.440
that were raised by uh the objectives at

00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:29.360
the time of the the meeting so we think

00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.159
in terms of the recommendation that's

00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:33.840
been put to you this evening uh it's

00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:36.079
thorough it comes out of the best part

00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:39.760
of uh 14 months or so of work between

00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:41.920
our office varied Allied Consultants

00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:43.840
councils internal departments and the

00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.760
officer and um the recommendation in our

00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:50.440
view is ideal we um accept it um in its

00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:53.760
entirety and um we respectfully request

00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:56.480
that um you too ALS Al support the

00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:59.239
officer recommendation as published

00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:02.679
thank you thank you very much Mr Stefan

00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:04.960
oich and if you could just turn off your

00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:06.440
camera sorry I did just mispronounce

00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.079
your surname there so thank you for

00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:11.079
being so kind um I'll now ask the

00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:13.440
councilors if we have a

00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:16.960
motion councilor

00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:20.880
Hill yes uh thank you mayor I would uh

00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:23.519
like to move the alternative motion

00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:27.440
that's been provided governance please

00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:36.920
Council Hill is confirming the

00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.199
recommendation as is on the

00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:44.480
screen yes that's correct thank you

00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:46.639
thank you do we have a

00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:49.519
seconder thank you councilor Davies

00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.400
councilor

00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:55.320
Hill uh thank you look I and other C

00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:58.480
councilors have really um struggled with

00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.840
this one I've got to be entirely honest

00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:03.440
um a lot of backwards and forwards

00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:06.159
between Council offices um I do

00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:07.760
acknowledge the you know the large

00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.239
amount of work that has actually gone in

00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:13.800
um to this application um I do note that

00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:17.400
the recommendation included I think 34

00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:22.039
uh conditions um to be placed on it also

00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:26.599
um and I do understand you know we we

00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:31.159
have a um an objective um that we're

00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:34.360
trying to reach um the fact that the SDA

00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:37.079
accommodation was included in this

00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.440
proposal um I I think helped even

00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:43.679
further that in that regard the thing I

00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:46.679
I've I keep on coming back to and and I

00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:49.679
I'm I'm hoping that maybe my fellow

00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.000
councilors share that same concern is um

00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:55.760
when we have this is a a pre Precinct

00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:57.920
within the activity center Zone but

00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:00.320
literally this property is the end of

00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:02.199
that Precinct so the neighboring

00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:05.119
properties that are you know in essence

00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.960
uh Residential Properties which um the

00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:09.800
objector tonight has spoken to and I've

00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:12.440
spoken to another objector who I think

00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:14.639
might be here in the room um this

00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:17.119
evening as well

00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:22.119
um I I I I I I struggle with the um

00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:24.199
interface and the built form of a

00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:26.639
four-story building a butting a single

00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:31.599
story um uh development next door uh it

00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:34.119
leads us well it leads me to think you

00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:36.360
know is there an opportunity to maybe

00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:39.360
Place further conditions around making

00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:43.679
the um uh the setbacks in line with with

00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.960
what's required but once we start doing

00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:50.079
that it really um it it really impacts

00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:53.119
on the entire um on the entire

00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:56.199
development so I think where I've landed

00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:57.760
is it's it's

00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:01.679
probably neater and and also fairer um

00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:06.599
to to issue a notice of refusal and um

00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:07.960
yeah I think I'll just leave my comments

00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:11.039
there anyway so thank

00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.039
you thank you very much councilor hill

00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:16.679
I'll ask councilor Davies if you'd like

00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:19.199
to

00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:22.159
speak any other councilors wishing to

00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:24.079
debate this

00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:27.159
item

00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:32.440
councilor Hill would you like to

00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:36.079
close councilors we have six councilors

00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.639
present so we have Quorum maintained I

00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:41.840
can confirm I can put this item to the

00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:45.360
vote I'll ask all those in favour to

00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:47.880
raise their

00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:53.719
hand and I'll ask all those against to

00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:55.719
raise their hand

00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:57.280
councilor he'll put your hand y thank

00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:00.199
you and not that I'm

00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:05.000
abstaining and I will declare that

00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:11.519
carried thank you

00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:18.679
councilors all right so um item 7.4 is

00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:20.639
the next item on our agenda mentor and

00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:24.159
life saving um Club House councilors do

00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:25.800
we have a motion

00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:28.280
councilor

00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.599
Hill uh yes I'd like to move the officer

00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:32.920
recommendation as it appears on the

00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:36.679
screen please thank you do I have a

00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:39.039
seconder councilor Davies thank you

00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:40.440
councilor Hill do you wish to speak to

00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:41.719
this

00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:44.519
item yeah look just briefly and um I'd

00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:46.400
also like to acknowledge in the room we

00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:48.440
have the president of ment own life

00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:50.480
saving club uh Russell re so thank you

00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:53.280
for joining us this evening as well

00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:58.079
Russell um so uh look this is uh a bit

00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:02.000
of an anomaly in that the club had well

00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:04.760
the old building the club um has always

00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.599
operated with a restricted liquor

00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:11.039
license um but with the um with the new

00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:13.760
building um for one the actual footprint

00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:16.159
of the building has significantly

00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:20.400
changed um when you look at um uh liquor

00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.039
licenses there's always a red line plan

00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:25.760
attached and the red line plan has had

00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:28.440
to significantly change because of the

00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:32.960
new form of the building um there's uh

00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:34.920
the advertising that went on for this

00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:39.280
proposal was significant um uh certainly

00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:42.079
uh many many local residents received

00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:44.719
information uh when the application went

00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:48.440
out um to the public and I really I

00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:50.800
think it's significant to note that no

00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.400
um objections were received in response

00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:56.199
to that uh

00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:59.880
the club has been able to somewhat uh

00:55:59.960 --> 00:56:02.360
still uh still operate over the busy

00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:06.039
summer period with a um an existing

00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:10.159
restricted license um but I think this

00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:12.480
will be you know really closing the loop

00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:14.360
and I'm sure the club will be very happy

00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:17.440
if um we can support uh the

00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:19.880
recommendation as it as it's laid out

00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:22.400
and uh it really will go to the club

00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:23.679
being able to and the building being

00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:25.719
able to fulfill its function

00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:28.639
uh whereby club members guests of

00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:30.880
members and also people wanting to run

00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:34.239
functions at the uh at the new venue um

00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:37.239
this will help facilitate that and uh

00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.360
hopefully lots of people can get down to

00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:42.079
their local club and support it so

00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:45.440
uh thank you thank you very much

00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:47.159
councilor Hill councilor Davies do you

00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:48.960
wish to speak to this

00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.039
item no any other council is wishing to

00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:53.360
debate this

00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:55.480
item I'm assuming councel who you don't

00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:57.599
need to close I'll now put this item to

00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:00.800
the vote all those in

00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:25.440
favour all those are

00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:29.039
against or those

00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:34.119
abstaining councel councilor B just

00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:36.239
confirm abstaining oh yes wonderful

00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.599
thank you very much so I will declare

00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:41.679
that that has been

00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:56.199
carried

00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:58.119
wonderful thank you very much governance

00:57:58.199 --> 00:57:59.000
for your

00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.239
work um on this next item we have a

00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:03.960
foreshadow Declaration of Interest

00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:04.920
councilor

00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.960
Hill yes I again just note a conflict of

00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:11.119
interest uh with sidm and um confirm

00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:13.280
that written confirmation has been

00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.440
provided to the CEO as per our

00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:16.480
governance

00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:20.960
rules thank you very much counc

00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:26.719
Hill

00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:30.280
councilors I'll just advise that there

00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:32.920
were um no formal objections made during

00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:34.960
the planning process for speaking

00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:38.000
tonight and we um um so we don't require

00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.320
that process to be undertaken so I will

00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:42.920
ask then if we do have a motion

00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:44.320
councilor

00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:46.760
Davies I just want to move the officer

00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:48.280
recommendation thank you thank you

00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:50.719
councilor Davies and councilor how

00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:53.039
seconding um councilors is there any

00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:55.840
debate required on this matter

00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:58.039
I'll put this item to the vote and ask

00:58:58.119 --> 00:58:59.599
all those in favour to please raise your

00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:03.920
hand and I declare that's been carried

00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:06.800
unanimously we can now ask councilor

00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:10.320
Hill to return to the

00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:20.519
chamber I'll just pause and take a

00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:23.559
moment to um confer with governance one

00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:26.639
moment

00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:50.119
thank you everyone for the pause I was

00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:52.360
just um confirming uh thank you

00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:54.079
councilor basley just making sure that

00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:56.440
your it connection was okay there and

00:59:56.519 --> 00:59:58.639
just confirming with governance on that

00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:00.119
matter thank you everyone we're now

01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:03.199
moving to item 7.6 which is Ste Steven

01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:05.559
street foreshore car park councils do we

01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:08.519
have a motion councilor how thank you

01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:09.920
I'll move the recommendation as it

01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:13.480
appears thank you councilor

01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:15.400
Davies councilor how would you like to

01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:17.800
speak to this item no further comment no

01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:20.239
comment councilor Davies all right

01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:21.880
councilors we might put that item to the

01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:23.760
vote I'll ask all those in favour to

01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:26.559
please raise your hand

01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:27.960
and I'll declare that carried

01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:31.000
unanimously thank

01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:37.280
you we're now on to

01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:42.159
item bit of scrolling there 7.7 which is

01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:45.039
191 to 199 Spring Road Dingle Village

01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:47.679
councilors do we um noting that there

01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:49.800
are no objections um made during the

01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:52.039
planning process do we have a motion

01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:53.440
councilor

01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:55.719
stos

01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:57.400
thank you I'm happy to move the

01:00:57.480 --> 01:01:00.960
recommendation on the screen thank you

01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:04.559
councilor how seconding um is there any

01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:06.280
debate required on this

01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:08.639
item Council as I put this matter to the

01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:10.400
vote all those in favour please raise

01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:12.159
your

01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.480
hand all councilors in favour just

01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:17.719
checking online you can hear

01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:26.039
me okay I think she has frozen again

01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:28.360
well I can declare that that is carried

01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:29.679
we do still have Quorum in the room

01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:32.239
Council Beasley you voting for thank you

01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:34.760
very much I'll declare that carried

01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:37.679
unanimously wonderful um that brings us

01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:39.880
out of planning and into our community

01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:43.519
strengthening reports item 8.1 is the

01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:47.960
Kingston woman women of the Year Awards

01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:52.639
2024 yes um I have a procedural motion

01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:56.239
please thank you um that this item be

01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:58.960
moved uh and to be

01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:02.960
considered uh after item

01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:06.239
14 thank you very much sorry after item

01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:09.360
13 after item 13 after item 13 thank you

01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:11.559
I'll just confer with Governor wording

01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:13.280
thank you very much councilor stos do we

01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:16.599
have a second for the procedural

01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:19.119
motion councilor Davies and I'll just

01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:20.840
I'll ask that question

01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:23.760
for all right wonderful uh any debate

01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:26.280
required councilors I'll put this item

01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:29.159
to the vote all those in favour and

01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:32.039
declare that carried

01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:35.119
unanimously thank you we will now move

01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:40.559
to 8.2 which is our Junior May policy

01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:43.719
councilors thank you councilor stos

01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:46.000
seconded um councilor

01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:48.480
Davies councilors is there any um

01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:50.360
discussion thank you Council St just

01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:53.639
very briefly um this is a fantastic

01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:56.880
program and this policy uh and the work

01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:00.480
that's been done by our team in Youth

01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:03.280
Services um brings it sort of in

01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:05.119
alignment the policy in alignment with

01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:07.360
practice and tries to make it um even

01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:09.519
better um but I just wanted to take a

01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:12.400
quick moment of course to recognize um

01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:14.440
Chelsea rotary as well who are great

01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:16.679
contributors um and to all of the young

01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:19.960
people uh who are on um the youth

01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:22.559
Council and who have been participating

01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:25.840
in learning um about local government

01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:28.079
thank

01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:31.519
you uh thank you I I understand that

01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:32.719
there was um a little bit of trouble

01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:34.920
hearing and we will do our absolute best

01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.840
to make sure that um the the sound is

01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:40.599
just reviewed by um our councils and our

01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:41.920
governance thank you so much for that

01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.559
feedback um councilor stos just spoke of

01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:48.000
his appreciation for the um the junior

01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:50.239
Council program and also recognized

01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:52.000
Chelsea rotary as one of the key

01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:54.440
stakeholders in delivering that program

01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:55.920
Council stos have I missed anything in

01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.239
your summary there thank you very much

01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:00.480
um we did have councilor Davies second

01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:01.840
that motion would you like to speak to

01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:03.679
this one um I just want to talk to it

01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:06.119
very briefly um I think this is a

01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:10.800
fantastic um policy and also a fantastic

01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:14.840
um extra level of uh governance I

01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:18.440
suppose that we actually operate um on a

01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:20.880
stray day we had both the junior mayor

01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:23.119
and the junior Deputy Mayor at the uh

01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:25.880
citizenship always get that

01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:28.679
word u present and I know look I've been

01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:31.480
at a couple of those um both the junior

01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:33.159
May and the junior Deputy Mayor and they

01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:35.719
absolutely love being involved um and I

01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:37.039
think it's a great thing that the City

01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:38.719
of Kingston operates and I would also

01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:41.119
like to thank all the council staff who

01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:44.000
prepared the the updated policy thank

01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:47.159
you wonderful councilors any further

01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:48.519
debate

01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:50.679
required I'll put this matter to the

01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:53.079
vote all those in

01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:55.360
favour

01:04:55.440 --> 01:04:58.119
I'll just

01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:00.559
confirm with all those in favour and I

01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:02.519
believe that councilor Bley has frozen

01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:03.960
so we're not able to record a vote for

01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:07.400
her so I'll declare that carried

01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:09.920
unanimously item

01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:14.239
8.3 is the 2023 2026 Kingston youth

01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:15.920
strategy year one highlight report

01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:18.960
councilors do we have a

01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:21.920
motion councilor Hill and second and

01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:24.400
councilor stos councilors does this

01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:27.400
matter require any

01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:30.039
debate we have six councilors we still

01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:31.599
have Corum I'll put this item to the

01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:33.320
vote all those in

01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:35.480
favour thank you councilor Bey I'll

01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:38.239
declare that carried

01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:44.519
unanimously all right so the next item

01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:47.239
on our agenda is 9.1 the award of

01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:51.960
contract councilors do we have a

01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:55.320
motion thank you councilor stos thank

01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:56.440
you councilor

01:05:56.519 --> 01:05:58.840
Cochran councilors is there any debate

01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:00.239
required on this

01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:04.400
item thank you councilor st thank you um

01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:07.719
thank you madam mayor I'm happy to move

01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:09.800
that this uh contract for the

01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:12.480
Reconstruction and drainage upgrade is

01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:14.800
awarded uh and I'm very comfortable with

01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:16.800
the um attached report and the

01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:19.679
recommendation thank you very

01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:22.639
much councilors I'll now put this item

01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:24.679
to the vote all those in favour please

01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:28.519
raise your hand I declare that carried

01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:32.480
unanimously item 10.1 is

01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:35.719
the commoner

01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:39.199
contract commen thank you to our CEO

01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:43.280
I've been um working on my pronunciation

01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:47.079
tonight commen contract councils do we

01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:49.440
have a

01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:54.159
motion councilor Davies followed by

01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:56.639
councel

01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:04.039
Hill I don't believe this item requires

01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:06.400
any debate I'll put the item to the vote

01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:07.599
all those in

01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:10.639
favour I declare that unanimously carried

01:07:10.719 --> 01:07:12.079
thank

01:07:12.159 --> 01:07:16.280
you item 10.2 is the award of contract

01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:18.599
for the provision of internet and data

01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:21.400
services councilors do we have a

01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:24.320
motion councilor Cochran and seconded

01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:25.480
councilor

01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:28.920
stos councilors any debate

01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:32.239
required I'll now put this item to the

01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:35.400
vote all those in favour I declare that

01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:37.400
carried unanimously thank

01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:40.360
you item

01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:43.519
10.3 is the governance and compliance

01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:46.360
report councilors do we have a motion

01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:48.000
councilor

01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:50.960
Davies and councilor

01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:54.960
Hill any debate required on this item

01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:57.480
uh yes I did have an additional point

01:07:57.559 --> 01:07:59.519
that I have circulated to governance

01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:01.800
thank you thank you councilor how I'll

01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:03.760
just check in with governance it may be

01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:05.280
helpful if we

01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:07.360
um I believe I'll just check with

01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:09.280
governance give me one

01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:12.280
moment apologies it's for the next no

01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:13.920
worries thank you very much we'll just

01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:15.400
confirm we'll return to that

01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:18.239
conversation shortly thank you I don't

01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:20.079
believe any further debate is required

01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:21.880
on this item so I'll put it to the vote

01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:23.439
all those in favour please raise your

01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:24.600
hand

01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:27.399
that has been carried

01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:31.399
unanimously um item 10.4 response to

01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:34.880
resolution Council

01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:39.760
attendance councilor stos is moving and

01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:42.960
do we have a second uh councilor Davies

01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:44.880
thank you councilor stos sorry I should

01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:46.920
have said that i' I'd move it with a

01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:49.239
point four okay you'd like to make an

01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:52.399
amendment thank you um and the point for

01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:54.399
and I'm sorry I didn't provide it to the

01:08:54.479 --> 01:08:56.720
um governance team but I'll I'll read it

01:08:56.800 --> 01:09:00.119
out slowly thank you

01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:03.960
um uh

01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:07.199
with that

01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:10.279
any

01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:15.279
corrections

01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:20.800
required due to incorrect information

01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:24.840
recorded can be updated as necessary

01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:27.199
by

01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:30.680
governance in consultation

01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:34.399
with the relevant

01:09:38.119 --> 01:09:41.039
councilor

01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:45.279
SLS and any relevant

01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:49.720
officers um perhaps before officers we

01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:52.640
can put the word minute taking

01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:55.479
offices

01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:58.359
okay so um I'll move it and I'll ask

01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:00.880
councilor Davies if she's willing to

01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:06.039
accept that yes okay um so uh I'm happy

01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:09.760
to um I'm happy for the report to be

01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:12.560
received and for um quarterly reports of

01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:16.560
attendance records um be presented um to

01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:18.800
council um and I do think that this

01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:22.760
needs to be published um however I do

01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:25.960
acknowledge that that um sometimes the

01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:29.199
minutes um might you know may not

01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:31.880
reflect uh who was there and if a

01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:33.920
councilor was present then they can go

01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:36.279
back to the minute taking officer and

01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:39.720
governance um to um correct the

01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:41.439
information that's being presented so

01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:43.760
I'm happy to move that and if there's a

01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:45.960
an amendment I'm happy to listen to that

01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:48.520
to understand it so it can may or may

01:10:48.600 --> 01:10:51.760
not be incorporated into this motion

01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:53.439
thank you councilor stos and I believe

01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:55.880
that that councilor Davies has um agreed

01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:57.319
to the amendment would you like to speak

01:10:57.399 --> 01:10:59.600
to your seconding thank you um thank you

01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:01.760
I just want to uh first of all thank all

01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:04.560
the council staff who put this together

01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:06.840
um I you know I know a lot of people had

01:11:06.920 --> 01:11:08.520
concerns about the size of the job but I

01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:10.520
think that the fact that this came to us

01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:14.079
at CIS um a week or so ago shows that um

01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:16.840
they're quite able to manage it um I

01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:18.520
think it is a really really interesting

01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:20.840
report because those members of our

01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:23.119
community who want to know what our

01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:24.720
Council have been doing you will see

01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:26.119
that there is quite a lot of things we

01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:28.600
do besides attending um this monthly

01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:31.600
meeting so I'm um very pleased to Second

01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:33.920
this motion thank you thank you very

01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:35.079
much councilor

01:11:35.159 --> 01:11:39.039
Davies councilor Hal thank you thank you

01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:41.520
and I'm certainly highly visible in my

01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:43.199
community and I'm out there on the

01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:44.760
streets reporting thousands of

01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:46.520
maintenance issues and I'm very

01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:48.840
accessible to the community but I do

01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:51.439
have an amendment addition to this item

01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:53.479
and that's due to some exceptional Circ

01:11:53.560 --> 01:11:55.720
circumstances that have affected me and

01:11:55.800 --> 01:11:58.239
my family profoundly over the last 3

01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:00.119
years I'd like that to appear on the

01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.159
screen it has been presented to

01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:05.000
governance thank you thank you very much

01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:06.720
councilor

01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:09.560
how we'll just um I believe wait for

01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:13.560
governance to bring that up on the

01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:25.479
screen

01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:55.439
for

01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:03.399
sorry it was just as uh Miss sha Lo had

01:13:03.479 --> 01:13:05.520
supplied thank

01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:07.760
you thank you councilor house so can I

01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:09.560
just confirm what is on the screen is

01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:11.199
that what you were intending to move as

01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:13.760
the amendment if not we can revise it uh

01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:16.520
sorry there was a amendment by m

01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:19.079
shacklock the uh manager for governance

01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:21.279
to to the wording there okay thank you

01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:22.600
Council how if you could just give us a

01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:24.720
moment we'll conf and I'll then read the

01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:26.520
motion once we have the right one up on

01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:29.600
screen thank you everyone for your

01:13:48.239 --> 01:13:50.600
patience so I'll just alert governance

01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:53.000
that you've just been sent a copy of the

01:13:53.079 --> 01:13:55.079
state statement as councilor how was

01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:56.560
hoping it could be represented on the

01:13:56.640 --> 01:13:58.079
screen and I believe you're typing that

01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:01.239
up um while we're pausing for those of

01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:04.239
the um in the gallery just a acronym

01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:06.079
that we use is CIS and that stands for

01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:09.000
Council information session um I know it

01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:11.760
can be helpful to know what um acronyms

01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:14.119
are all right so I will read the

01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:16.000
amendment and then we'll just um confirm

01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:17.880
with councilor how before I move to the

01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:20.880
Mover and second of the motion so

01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:23.920
councilors we have um the be adopted

01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:25.560
with the addition of the following a

01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:27.600
statement appears on the publication of

01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:29.720
councilor attendance records until the

01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:31.840
end of the council term regarding

01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:33.840
exceptional circumstances of councilor

01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:35.800
how that has at times impacted his

01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:37.439
attendance councilor how does that

01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:38.800
reflect the amendment you wishing to

01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:41.720
move yes thank you thank you all right

01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:44.279
so I now need to confirm whether this

01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:47.319
will be accepted by the

01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:50.239
Mover I don't have any objections to

01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:53.880
this being included as a point five

01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:55.920
thank you councilor stos councilor

01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:00.119
Davies all right um that now becomes the

01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:02.079
substantive

01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:04.640
motion and would any other councilors

01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:09.840
like to debate or contribute councilor

01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:13.279
Hill thank you and um thanks too to all

01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:15.640
the officers who have contributed to um

01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:18.520
putting this report together um you know

01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:21.000
it was pulled together very quickly so

01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:22.520
uh especially given the time of year

01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:24.760
it's much appr appreciated that this um

01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:26.479
you could be brought to us so so

01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:28.479
promptly in January or February I should

01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:32.800
say February January um so uh I just

01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:34.760
wanted to say like one thing as I go

01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:38.000
through um the attendance records I

01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:40.439
don't think the purpose of this was to

01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:42.479
like illustrate that you know any

01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:45.039
particular Council was at every single

01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:46.399
um meeting or function that they could

01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:48.680
have possibly been at uh you know

01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:51.640
because at the end of the day what what

01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:55.119
is uh often um in our in our Diaries on

01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:56.880
a weekly basis you know we just

01:15:56.960 --> 01:15:59.600
physically can't be everywhere um I

01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:01.279
think what is useful though and I think

01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:03.079
it's really timely that this is um

01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:06.159
coming to us in the year of a council

01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:07.520
election which will occur later in the

01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:11.920
year just to illustrate um the the time

01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:13.560
that or the time commitment on

01:16:13.640 --> 01:16:16.920
councilors I think it's uh it's

01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:19.079
something that that was you know really

01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:20.680
important to me to have a better

01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:23.319
understanding of when I chose to run um

01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:25.119
and I'm I'm sure that you know everybody

01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:27.439
probably felt the same as well because

01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:28.359
at the end of the day when you're

01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:30.520
holding down a full-time job as well as

01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:33.880
doing councel work uh you know you you

01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:35.600
need a pretty thorough understanding of

01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:38.039
exactly what the role is what it you

01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:40.239
know because it goes a lot further than

01:16:40.319 --> 01:16:42.399
tonight you know than a ordinary meeting

01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:45.560
once once a month um so I think it's

01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:49.680
just really uh you know a useful report

01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:52.119
I think it should be just taken at face

01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:54.800
value um it shows attendance to be

01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:56.880
honest although information has been

01:16:56.960 --> 01:16:59.000
gathered from reports I I believe that

01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:01.800
are already kind of in the public domain

01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:04.439
anyway so it's not uh you know it's not

01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:06.039
bringing out new information it's just

01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:08.560
collating it in a simple to read uh

01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:10.800
document and yeah I think it'll be quite

01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:13.399
useful to anyone contemplate

01:17:13.479 --> 01:17:16.359
contemplating running later this year um

01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:18.840
to just make sure that you know they

01:17:18.920 --> 01:17:20.439
they're got the ability to actually

01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:21.600
commit the amount of time that's

01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:23.880
necessary to to fulfill the role so

01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:26.159
thank you thank you councilor Hill for

01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:28.800
your contribution councilors I will now

01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:32.039
put this item to the vote I don't

01:17:32.119 --> 01:17:33.520
believe it requires any further debate

01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:34.920
if you could please raise your hand if

01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:36.760
you are in

01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:41.159
favour thank you I declare that carried

01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:46.359
unanimously the next item on the agenda

01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:50.760
is 11.1 the lease and license

01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:53.960
policy councilors do we have a

01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:56.520
motion councilor

01:17:56.600 --> 01:18:00.079
stacos councilor Hill would anyone like

01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:02.279
to speak to this or are there any

01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:04.560
objections to

01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:07.199
debate councilor stos thank you thank

01:18:07.279 --> 01:18:11.880
you um I'm very um comfortable uh with

01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:15.159
the draft lease and Licensing policy uh

01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:19.319
as attached and um I thought um I just

01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:21.079
wanted to mention that I'm very pleased

01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:23.439
with the additional time

01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:26.439
um that we've we had to fully understand

01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:28.399
the implications of the policy and to

01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:31.119
further discuss it um I I think that

01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:34.359
this is going to be a good uh move uh

01:18:34.439 --> 01:18:37.840
for Council to adopt this policy um and

01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:41.119
to to move forward with uh modernizing

01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:44.159
our lece structures uh with our tenants

01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:46.479
uh throughout the City thank

01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:49.720
you thank you very much councilor stos

01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:51.039
councilor Hill do you wish to speak to

01:18:51.119 --> 01:18:53.920
this item thank you thank

01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:57.640
you uh yeah look just very briefly I I

01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:00.560
again I support um councilor stos and I

01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:03.920
also know that councilor stos has had um

01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:07.840
you know quite a bit of uh not input but

01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:10.319
certainly um

01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:12.920
uh direction as to you know how this

01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:16.039
will best um suit the needs of all our

01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:18.760
tenants um what we're basically doing

01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:21.600
here is we're we're splitting every uh

01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:23.840
splitting all our tenants in into one of

01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:27.159
uh four groups in in effect and um

01:19:27.239 --> 01:19:30.399
there's also uh you know a way that we

01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:33.319
calculate a lease uh including a subsidy

01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:35.880
that applies depending on which category

01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:40.279
um the the uh tenant Falls within um but

01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:43.199
there's also uh provision for um a

01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:45.279
discount that can be applied in certain

01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:48.119
circumstances so I think it's uh very

01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:50.840
fair and Equitable um I am very

01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:51.840
comfortable with the level of

01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:55.159
consultation that's gone on um as well

01:19:55.239 --> 01:19:57.199
so there are no real surprises I don't

01:19:57.279 --> 01:19:59.680
believe with this and uh yeah it'll be a

01:19:59.760 --> 01:20:01.319
good Modern Way of moving forward with

01:20:01.399 --> 01:20:02.640
this thank

01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:05.880
you thank you very much Council as I'll

01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:09.039
put this item to the vote all those in

01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:13.039
favour I declare that carried

01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:16.520
unanimously the next item on the agenda

01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:19.359
is item 12.1 notice of motion councilor

01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:20.920
stay costs councilor position

01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:22.119
descriptions and key performance

01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:25.000
indicators Council stakos I'm happy to

01:20:25.079 --> 01:20:28.560
move but with the amendment that um we

01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:30.479
change march to

01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:34.880
April thank you y councilors do we have

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a seconder councilor

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hill and councilor St thank you mayor um

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I'm just uh wanting to speak to this

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item obviously it's my notice of motion

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um I do think that uh as I may have

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explained to some uh to to The Forum you

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were speaking of the councilor

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information session um I do believe it

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is important for councilors um

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particularly incoming councilors that

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will be elected uh at the conclusion of

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this term fully understand um that there

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is a position description um that has

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been considered by Kingston Council

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about what it means to be a councilor

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and that the work that's required to go

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into being a councilor um as is noted in

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the

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um Preamble uh there are some

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uh elements that appear uh in the um

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there are some elements about the

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position of a councilor that appear in

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the ACT um but that is not it if a

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councilor simply undertook their

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duties um at the bare minimum as

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required by the ACT I believe that the

01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:58.319
community would be short changed uh I

01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:01.680
believe that uh every councilor uh has a

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duty um particularly at Kingston Council

01:22:05.439 --> 01:22:07.359
uh to serve their Community to the best

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of their ability um and therefore what

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I'm calling for in this um notice of

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motion is that a report be prepared and

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that report be um informed with

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discussions uh and consultations with

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Peak bodies uh outside of the City of

01:22:26.399 --> 01:22:28.520
Kingston and also being informed with

01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:31.680
practices at this Council so that we can

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come up that our governance officers can

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come up with um position descriptions

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and key performance indicators for our

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consideration in a further report um so

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that's all I'm doing tonight I'm calling

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for a report um and the officers have

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confirmed that they are able to put that

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together by April um with a view for

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Council to then particularly come back

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consider it and adopt it as an ed

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educative

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educative um piece uh particularly for

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incoming councilors uh for the 200 and

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24-28 Council term thank you thank you

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very much councilor stos councilor Hill

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do you wish to speak to this

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item yeah thank you mayor jdb um not

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wanting to double up too much but um

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yeah just again supporting um Council

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stos and I think the uh what's what's

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lays behind um this request as well um I

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only just spoke to the fact that you

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know we have council elections this year

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I really do think that this will give

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greater um clarification to any you know

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um applicant but also um to the new

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councilors It's I I do recall sort of

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hitting the ground running very fast

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when when you um sort of I think it's a

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couple of weeks after you're elected

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that you're already in your first

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ordinary meeting um and I I do think

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anything that really spells out and

01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:05.000
takes away any of the gray um as to

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exactly what your responsibilities and

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and the expectations are is only going

01:24:09.279 --> 01:24:12.279
to help uh the new councilor group um

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especially so I think this is a really a

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really you know positive idea and be

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very interested to see uh the officer

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report when it comes back to us in a few

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months time thank you

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thank you very much councilor

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Hal thank you and I've heard

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the

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statement council elections thrown

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around a little bit on this subject and

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what people don't want to see is a

01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:40.960
politicalized council they want to see a

01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:43.119
classical Council that is addressing the

01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:46.399
fundamental needs of of the community

01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:50.600
and where we've got an employee based

01:24:50.680 --> 01:24:53.039
kpi which is a key performance indicator

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for those that aren't aware of that

01:24:54.239 --> 01:24:57.399
acronym being applied to a councilor I

01:24:57.479 --> 01:25:00.000
do feel that it is misaligned

01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:04.039
because every suburb has different needs

01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:05.840
but those fundamental needs are the

01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:07.640
basic things that the council should be

01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:09.840
doing it's it's it's repairing the foot

01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:12.800
paths it's keeping the council

01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:15.680
presentable with appropriate landscaping

01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:18.199
and and ensuring the grass is cut and

01:25:18.279 --> 01:25:19.680
it's removing graffiti and it's all

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these things but at the end of the day

01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:23.640
the

01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:26.520
councilor they are accountable to the

01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:29.239
rate payer not to a kpi they are

01:25:29.319 --> 01:25:32.960
accountable to the rate payer and the

01:25:33.039 --> 01:25:37.119
councilor will only be voted back in if

01:25:37.199 --> 01:25:39.439
their election platform resonates with

01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:41.560
the rate payer they will not be

01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:44.760
reelected if they get a 10 out of 10 for

01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:47.319
a key performance indicator it will not

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affect their

01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:51.319
reelection what will re affect their

01:25:51.399 --> 01:25:52.720
reelection

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is how strongly they represent the needs

01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:57.119
of the individual suburbs of which

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they've been appointed to represent over

01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:03.039
the course of their time on Council and

01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:04.640
how well they can pitch themselves to

01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:07.039
the public when they are voting again so

01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:09.119
there's a significant difference between

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an employee and a councilor which is

01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:13.800
almost like a pseudo politician that's

01:26:13.880 --> 01:26:16.279
voted in again on the merits of their

01:26:16.359 --> 01:26:18.520
election platform that is what they they

01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:20.640
should be measured against someone

01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:23.119
should pick up the uh election platform

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of let's say our mayor here Jenna Davy

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Burns and look at what was in her

01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:30.720
platform and ask themselves well did did

01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:32.600
that particular counsel represent those

01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:35.439
needs yes or no and and and what is it

01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:37.920
that counsel sorry the mayor Jen DAV

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Bern is standing for this time and what

01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:41.840
is it she's going to deliver in terms of

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uh the benefit to the area in which I'm

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living in so I don't know where this is

01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:49.319
headed what I can say is that there is a

01:26:49.399 --> 01:26:52.199
strong difference between an employee

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someone behind me and someone sitting at

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this table I just want to make that

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really established when people are

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voting on this tonight thank you thank

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you very much councilor Hal would any

01:27:04.880 --> 01:27:07.600
other councilors like to speak to this

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item councilor

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Davies um thank you look just just a

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couple of comments um from all the

01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:18.680
councilors who've just spoken I I key

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performance indicators don't actually

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just apply to employees I do take on

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board that key performance indicators

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are um often used in relation to

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employees um and I totally agree with

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what all three councilors have said in

01:27:31.479 --> 01:27:34.439
terms of we do need to be accountable

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and I I this motion appeals to me

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because it is another gauge for the

01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:43.840
residents who really most residents

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don't listen into Council meetings um

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some do some don't but this is a a way

01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:52.159
that they can go on to our website

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presumably at point we will create

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something that's public where they can

01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:59.159
see what their councilors are doing so

01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:00.680
you you're not always aware I know look

01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:04.840
my mother is um doesn't follow some of

01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:07.000
her councils listen to the radio Etc but

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you know you do have people who don't do

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that but when they come to vote for

01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:14.199
their councilors every four years that's

01:28:14.279 --> 01:28:15.920
when their mind gets focused so I think

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if we have a tool and I think that this

01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:22.359
tool does set out important information

01:28:22.439 --> 01:28:24.399
that we as councilors should work

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towards because yes we do get a lot of

01:28:27.399 --> 01:28:29.479
day to-day queries from our residents

01:28:29.560 --> 01:28:32.319
but our primary um under the Local

01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:33.840
Government Act our primary thing is

01:28:33.920 --> 01:28:35.720
strategic development for the entire

01:28:35.800 --> 01:28:38.800
City even though we have specific Wards

01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:40.720
I do think it's important that we are

01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:43.840
able to be aware of our overarching

01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:46.880
obligations and that there are um

01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:48.920
whether you want to call it kpis or

01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:50.720
position descriptions but something that

01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:52.600
directs us to turn our mind mind to it

01:28:52.680 --> 01:28:54.359
and make sure as a check and a balance

01:28:54.439 --> 01:28:56.199
throughout the four years that yes I'm

01:28:56.279 --> 01:28:57.560
on track and I'm doing what I should be

01:28:57.640 --> 01:29:00.960
doing as a councilor so thank you thank

01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:03.039
you councilor

01:29:03.119 --> 01:29:05.520
Davies I will now unless there's no

01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:07.760
further objections um put this item to

01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:09.760
the vote I'll ask all those in favour

01:29:09.840 --> 01:29:12.479
please raise your

01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:18.359
hand just one moment

01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:23.920
councilors

01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:29.920
and all

01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:31.760
those just if you could just Mark the

01:29:31.840 --> 01:29:34.680
may as for please thank you wonderful

01:29:34.760 --> 01:29:35.840
and all those

01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:38.479
against and all those

01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:41.239
abstaining thank you I declare that item

01:29:41.319 --> 01:29:43.680
has been

01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:48.079
carried councilors the next item on the

01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:50.600
agenda is urgent business do we have any

01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:52.640
items of urgent business

01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:55.560
no thank you

01:29:57.159 --> 01:30:00.239
councilors our next item is confidential

01:30:00.319 --> 01:30:02.600
items just before that we did have a

01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:06.640
procedural motion to move um the woman

01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:08.680
of the year matter to this point in the

01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:11.520
agenda thank you um so I would like to

01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:14.800
move a procedural motion uh that that

01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:17.159
item be considered in camera thank you

01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:20.680
councilor stos um do we have a seconder

01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:23.039
councilor Davies Council there any

01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:25.640
debate

01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:27.920
required I'll put this matter to the

01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:29.840
vote all those in favour please raise

01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:32.439
your hand and that's been carried

01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:35.520
unanimously thank

01:30:37.079 --> 01:30:41.439
you thank you that's being carried

01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:44.760
unanimously thank you so this means that

01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:46.720
we will thank uh the members of the

01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:48.640
public who have taken the time to join

01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:51.279
us this evening um it's wonderful to see

01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:52.680
you we look forward to seeing you

01:30:52.760 --> 01:30:55.239
hopefully uh at our upcoming meetings

01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:58.399
we'll also need to um stop our live

01:30:58.479 --> 01:31:00.960
stream and we'll just pause for a moment

01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:04.199
um well SP to take

01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:12.800
that and I will declare that the meeting

01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:14.319
has been reopened to members of the

01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:18.840
public at 8:41

01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:21.880
p.m. thank you everyone welcome back

01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:24.600
it's wonderful to see you all please

01:31:24.680 --> 01:31:25.920
feel free to stay and have some

01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:29.560
refreshments upstairs to celebrate more

01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:33.279
okay we'll work on it did I do I need to

01:31:33.359 --> 01:31:38.359
go for a the meeting is now closed thank

01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:41.000
you councilor

01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:49.640
Davies


