WEBVTT 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:03.319 good evening Kingston and welcome to 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:05.639 our ordinary council meeting for 00:00:05.719 --> 00:00:09.000 Monday the 27th of May 2024 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:11.679 I'd like to declare the meeting 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:18.280 open and just check the time 7:05pm 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:20.440 tonight I'd like to begin the 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:21.839 acknowledgement of country by 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:24.320 recognizing two days of 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:27.760 significance we had our flag raising 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:29.399 at the Derrimut Wheelan Gathering Place 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:30.920 this morning to mark the beginning of 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:34.560 national reconciliation week and we also 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:38.640 marked national sorry day last week both 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:40.560 of these are really important occasions 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:43.320 to recognize our continuing and ongoing 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:45.520 commitment to working with First Nations 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.759 people and I was really taken by 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:51.119 national sorry day this year where 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:56.039 Victoria Police chose to make an apology 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:58.439 on behalf of any members of The 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:00.359 Stolen Generation who 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:02.439 had had negative experiences with 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:05.159 Victoria Police it was a significant 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:08.599 moment for us as a state and really 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:11.239 marked part of the pathway to truth 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:13.359 and treaty that we have underway here in 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:15.120 the state of 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:18.280 Victoria today we had over 300 people 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:20.079 attending the Derrimut Wheelan Gathering Place 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:21.439 for a smoking 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:25.439 ceremony and to hear from elders and our 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:27.439 staff about their connection to this 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:30.120 country the Bunurong and the Bunurong people 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:31.840 are the traditional custodians but there 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:33.480 were many people joining 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:37.040 us we had five local schools and a 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:39.319 number of our staff also 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:41.879 there so it was very very special and I 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:44.560 would like to pay my respects to the 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:47.680 traditional custodians and also to any 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:51.519 first nation's people present with us 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:55.239 tonight also like to welcome our 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:56.799 community it was lovely to have a chance 00:01:56.879 --> 00:01:59.040 to speak to a few of you on the way in 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:01.599 and for those of you in the room we're 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:03.480 very grateful that you take the time to 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:05.280 come out especially in this very cold 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:08.120 weather to spend time with us here in 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:10.159 the gallery and and to partake in our 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:12.479 Council meetings I know we have a number 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:14.360 of people who also join our meetings 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:16.759 online and we do very much appreciate 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:18.960 your interest and your ongoing 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:21.560 participation in Council 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:23.639 processes now I know we've got lots of 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:25.800 familiar faces here tonight and I know 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:28.280 that you're aware that we do have a 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:30.919 recording statement but for those of you 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:33.159 who aren't aware that for the purpose of 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:35.360 transparency the public meeting is 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:37.360 recorded and streamed live on the 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:40.120 internet the recording is archived and 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:43.280 available on council's website we also 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:45.879 have recording undertaken via 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:48.400 CCTV we do our very best to maintain 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:50.800 your privacy however you may note being 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:53.360 in the gallery you may be 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:56.080 recorded for those of you who are 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.639 attending in person we would just ask 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:00.319 that you do that 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:03.520 without any interruption 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:06.080 interjection into the debate it really 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:08.159 does just help the meeting run smoothly 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:10.120 and not distract from the the content 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:11.800 that the counselors are contemplating 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:15.159 with their hearts and minds we do also 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:16.400 ask that you don't operate any 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:19.080 photographic audio or video recording 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:22.039 equipment and that's to ensure that the 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:25.400 copy of this meeting is the formal 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:28.080 version of this meeting I note a couple 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:30.080 of you have found the iPad which are 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:31.840 important there so if you do need any 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:33.479 assistance we've got staff in the room 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:37.479 who are able to 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:40.080 assist we have a big agenda tonight and 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:42.039 I'm really looking forward to hearing 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:44.039 the debate and the discussion from 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:45.800 the councilors in the 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:48.560 room we have apologies submitted from 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:51.639 councelor Staikos and councelor Cochrane 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:53.400 and I'd like to ask for a motion to 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:54.759 receive those apologies please 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:56.759 counselors counselor Bearsley and second 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:58.080 about counselor 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:00.919 Hill i don't believe require any debate 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.400 I'll put this to the vote all those in 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:07.759 favor and that is unanimous thank you 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:13.039 councilors confirmation of the minutes 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:16.199 of previous meeting so that was our 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:19.480 meeting on the 22nd of April councilors 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.680 do we have a 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:23.879 motion thank you councilor Hill and 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:25.720 second and councelor 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:28.279 Davies again I don't believe any debate 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:30.800 is required on this item 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:32.319 I'll put the item to the votee all those 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:34.560 in 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:38.959 favor thank you we'll just capture that 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:40.439 all those 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:45.079 abstaining thank you I'll declare that 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.240 carried item three is a foreshadow 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:51.720 declaration by counselors officers or 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:55.480 contractors of any conflicts of 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:58.000 interest we have no conflicts to declare 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.800 this evening thank you 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.920 item four is petitions and we do have a 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:05.800 petition this evening this is the Warren 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:07.680 Road Shopping Village 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:11.199 update councelor 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:15.000 Davies thank you mayor JDB yes I 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:17.279 would just like to present to the CEO 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:20.000 for his consideration we have a petition 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:22.240 in relation to upgrading Warren Road 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:25.160 Village which is noted by the people 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:27.000 that signed it that there are a variety 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:30.240 of shops there but it is 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.720 a pretty bleak shopping area there's no 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:34.959 visual signs to indicate the strip 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:36.879 that's there and they were hoping for 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:39.800 some signs some colorful planters things 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:41.839 to make it more visually impacting and 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:44.120 interesting and perhaps some seating 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:45.720 which could create a barrier between the 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:48.079 parking in the cafe which it's noted 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:49.839 that at times that can be dangerous so 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:52.399 we have 68 people who have signed the 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:53.920 petition and I would like to thank them 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:57.040 all for being interested enough to 00:05:57.120 --> 00:05:59.040 actually indicate their support I think 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:01.079 that's fantastic for our community 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:04.279 and I will present that to the CEO 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:06.160 thank you thank you councelor Davies 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:09.720 we'll just ask for a second for this 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:13.240 motion thank you councelor 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:17.480 Hill councilor is there any debate 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:20.160 required if not I'll put the item to the 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:21.639 vote and ask all those in favor to 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:22.920 please raise your 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:24.839 hand and declare that carried 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.839 unanimously thank you 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:31.000 the next item on our agenda tonight 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:33.279 is delegate reports counselor statements 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:35.279 and presentations of 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:37.680 awards would any councilors like to 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:40.639 speak councelor 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:46.079 Hill thank you very much mayor JDB I 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:48.959 just wanted to speak with regards to 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:51.360 Kingston volunteer appreciation event 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:54.240 which took place last Tuesday night 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:56.759 you of course were present mayor as 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:00.000 was councelor Saab as always it's just 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:03.319 a really uplifting event I just 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:06.959 love seeing you know the the number 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:08.759 of people in our community that gives so 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:11.879 much of their time to make this 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:14.560 really what is already a fantastic 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:16.319 Community but just an even better place 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:20.000 for us all to live as part of the 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:22.360 volunteer appreciation event is our 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:25.800 community awards and we awarded our 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:27.720 citizen of the year for 2024 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:32.480 who is Dr Dolly Dower now Dolly 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:35.600 is an academic educator and entrepreneur 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:37.600 lorded worldwide for a capacity and 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:39.199 experience in connecting higher 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:42.839 education industry and government Dr 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:44.720 Dower is a leading light in the development 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:46.600 of sustainable initiatives implementing 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.560 a methodology that combines design 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:51.839 science and business for maximum 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:55.120 community impact she's an inspiration 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:57.480 on a mission to drive a healthier planet 00:07:57.560 --> 00:07:59.040 and healthier communities while bringing 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:02.000 culture and people together so very very 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:06.560 worthy winner and after that 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:10.000 was the award of the community group 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:13.000 of the year who this year went to Mordialloc 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:17.040 theatre group MTC have had 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:19.480 considerable success now for eight 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:21.879 decades critically acclaimed at the 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:23.519 box office the company has presented 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:26.319 over 500 quality theatre productions and 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:28.399 encourage Community interest in all 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:30.680 aspects of the theatre 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:32.759 it's developed a reputation of high 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:34.440 quality performances thanks to hundreds 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:36.759 of people's dedication bringing all of 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:39.840 those performances together which 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:41.919 many of us have had the opportunity to 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:44.759 enjoy also so again I thought it was 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:47.879 just really you know worthy of 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.000 mentioning the evening as I say it's 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.200 just one of the one of the best evenings 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:55.759 I think of the year to see our our 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:58.320 volunteers all come together we were 00:08:58.399 --> 00:08:59.559 all able to get around the room and 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:01.440 speak to lots of the volunteers who were 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.200 present on the evening and 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:06.240 congratulations to the winners but also 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:08.000 to all of those who are nominated for 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:12.039 the awards thank you thank you councilor 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:15.759 Hill councilor Saab thank you madam mayor 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:17.000 i'd just like to make a counselor 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:19.919 statement as well if I may i'd just 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.679 like to First acknowledge the Zee Chung 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:25.120 moral uplifting society and specifically 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:28.679 their president Steven Chu who is 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:31.679 a classic example of the kind of citizen 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:33.240 and and community member in our city 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:35.639 that we do love to see and he engages so 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:36.840 well with Council he sits on our 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.279 Interfaith Community and they've just 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:41.679 recently celebrated their 22nd 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:45.039 anniversary as a group and they 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:48.240 were presented may you were there and 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:50.120 I was told you were wearing an African 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:52.960 dress wearing an Egyptian Coptic hat in 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:55.399 a Chinese background setting with with a 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:57.120 room full of a range of different 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:58.720 religious groups from Hindu to Islamic 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:00.559 to Buddhism so very Multicultural which 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.240 is you know totally emblematic of the 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:05.120 type of group that they are and they 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:08.960 presented council with a very large very 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:11.919 large banner which I'll just 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:14.480 show I believe Council Bearsley is going to 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:18.919 assist you hold that up which is very 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:22.159 lovely which is so 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:25.559 lovely there we go maybe I'll put it 00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:27.759 down now but that was presented to 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:30.320 Madame mayor 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.000 thank you sorry thank you Council just 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:36.080 roll that up thank you Council for 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:38.399 presenting that to the we'll we'll host 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:40.559 that in the counselor's lounge all the 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:42.519 other beautiful pieces of thanks and 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:44.200 appreciations that the council as an 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.000 organization receives it's signed by 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:48.440 all the different members I believe who 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:50.480 attended who come like I mentioned from 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:52.159 a range of different organizations or 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:53.919 religious groups or different 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.159 backgrounds it is a really inviting 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:57.919 group and and Steven Chu does an amazing 00:10:58.000 --> 00:10:59.240 job him and his committee so I just 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:01.039 wanted to acknowledge them and 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:03.480 congratulate them on their 22nd 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:05.720 anniversary I also just wanted to 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.039 acknowledge a pretty special day in 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:10.679 one of the community groups sporting 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:12.720 groups that are in my ward the Moorabbin and 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:15.399 Rugby Rams they celebrate every year 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:17.200 the Jack McDavitt day which is a really 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:19.759 special day in the calendar of the race 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:24.000 of the rugby team Jack McDavitt was a 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.840 a local in a long time ago long time ago 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:28.240 for me maybe not so much for everyone 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:30.120 else in the room but a long time ago who 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.399 worked very closely with councelor Don 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:35.879 Bricker back in the city of Moorabbin to 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:37.919 actually create what is now two 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:40.679 beautiful rugby spaces on a former 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.159 landfill tip site and so they 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.320 commemorate the day every year about the 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.559 formation of this club which captures a 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:50.600 beautiful part of the community it's the 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:54.759 it's the the Samoa Mai New Zealand 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.159 Community groups that really do engage 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:58.679 with Council and it's just such a 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:00.799 beautiful celebration and they have a 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:02.320 I pronounce I'm not sure if I'm going to 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:04.679 pronounce it correctly but AI I believe 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:06.759 which is just it's just fantastic so I 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:08.200 was really thankful to be invited to 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:10.279 that and to be part of what a special 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:14.440 day that was I also just finally 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:15.879 wanted to acknowledge that we just 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:18.840 recently held our new Council Junior 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:21.960 council elections and we elected a 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.000 new Junior mayor and a new Deputy Junior 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:27.120 mayor those being Isabella from our lady 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:30.720 of the Assption and luchian from St 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:34.960 John V's primary VIIs I can't pronounce 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:38.000 words school but it was such a 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:41.159 beautiful celebration the kids across 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:44.120 our primary schools in oh my time is up 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:45.879 I just request 30 seconds and then I 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:47.639 won't talk I'll Grant it next for 30 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:52.639 seconds they were asked what a kid 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:54.159 what what a child-friendly Kingston 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:55.320 would look like and they had some 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:57.799 amazing ideas from working with all 00:12:57.879 --> 00:12:59.639 the local Primary School to create some 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:02.679 art murals to anti-bullying campaigns to 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:05.440 Makers markets for our future budding 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:07.080 entrepreneurs so they were such Amazing 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:08.440 Ideas and I think one of the things that 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:10.679 we both took out of that Madame may you 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:12.200 were there was that we actually 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:14.000 wanted to present those ideas to council 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:14.799 because some of them were really 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:16.919 ingenious ideas that I think would go 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:18.600 a really long way in actually putting 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:20.799 into practice so well done for those 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:22.600 innovators and well done to all of the 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:25.000 junior Mayes to the junior mayor and 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:26.799 Junior Deputy Mayor but also to the new 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:29.120 Junior Council and just a special 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:30.639 shouted as well we had for the first 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.840 time yarab school competing in that 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:35.320 competition and they did amazing and won 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:37.679 an award for that and also just an 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:39.480 acknowledgement of all these other 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:40.759 fantastic schools that was not 30 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.000 seconds Council I do appreciate your 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:46.440 presentation araba was awarded the 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:49.519 counselor's Choice Award so thank you 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:51.559 any other counselors councelor 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:54.480 Oxley thank you just briefly we 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:56.960 currently have underway in Chelsea the 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:58.679 consultation on the this is Chelsea 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:00.639 Chelsea structure plan and I just wanted 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:02.519 to take this opportunity to thank all of 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:04.879 the locals that have contributed to the 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:07.600 consultation on that plan thus far I 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:09.840 know we had a very successful popup 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:13.960 outside the shops early last week 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:15.440 which was absolutely fantastic and I 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:17.440 know the the team have fed back that we 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:21.879 had I think 120 130 people come by 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:23.879 and put forward their ideas for Chelsea 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:25.879 which was absolutely fantastic we then 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:27.480 had another popup session and another 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:29.759 one at Park Ron as well but I just 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:31.000 wanted to take this opportunity to 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:32.720 encourage anyone who might be listening 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:34.679 to contribute to that plan that is 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:36.159 still open for consultation I think 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:38.360 until the 21st of June so there's 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:40.600 still plenty of time to contribute to 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:42.320 put your ideas forward for Chelsea this 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:45.200 will be transformational for Chelsea and 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:46.480 I know this is something that the local 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:48.440 community has been looking forward to 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:50.279 for quite some time but we want to make 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:51.840 sure we get it right we do want to make 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:53.399 sure we get that vision for Chelsey 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:55.279 right and based on what the community 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:57.679 want that is incredibly important so 00:14:57.759 --> 00:14:58.759 I just wanted to take this opportunity 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.080 to opportunity to encourage everyone to 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:02.919 participate in that but to also thank 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:04.200 the team that have been working on that 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:05.360 they've turned up to those popup 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.039 sessions and really encourage the local 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.360 community to put forward everything The 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.240 Good the Bad and perhaps the ugly but 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:14.720 I did really want to thank that team 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:16.320 because they have done a fantastic job 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:17.960 engaging our local community on 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:20.080 something that is incredibly important 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:21.399 so I did want to take that opportunity 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:23.879 to do that thank you thank you very much 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:25.879 Council 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:28.080 Oxley any other councilors wishing to 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:30.960 make a statement this even 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:36.080 evening no thank you all right 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:39.960 councilors we now move on to question 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:42.919 time we don't need a motion but thank 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.639 you for checking thank you very much 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:46.720 the question there for those who 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:48.320 couldn't hear it was do we require a 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:50.039 motion to accept the statements we do 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:52.399 not with counselor statement so we do 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:54.320 if they make a delegate report so thank 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:56.960 you once again for checking Mr Bean 00:15:57.039 --> 00:15:58.360 I'll now hand over to you for question 00:15:58.440 --> 00:15:59.519 time thank you 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:01.440 thank you mayor Davy Burns thank you 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:02.799 to all those who submitted questions 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:04.679 this evening please note the governance 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:06.799 rules have been applied to all questions 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:08.120 and three submissions have not been 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:09.480 accepted due to one of them being ruled 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:11.639 as repetitive of a question already 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:13.799 answered and the other two which were 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:15.799 ones that the person the author did not 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.159 provide a last name please also note 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:19.519 that any Preamble submitted with 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:22.080 questions will not be read out we have a 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:24.039 number of questions get through so we 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:26.320 will get straight into it the first 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.039 question is from Mark two questions has 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:30.600 the current any current counselor who 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.080 sits on Kingston council at present ever 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:34.919 questioned the constant rate Rises the 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:36.799 council imposes every year in their 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:38.799 budgets and the second question is has 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:40.879 any current Council voted against the 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:42.759 rate Rises put forward by the executive 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:45.039 in their annual budgets I'll ask Mr Dan 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:46.679 Hogan general manager customer corporate 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:49.240 support to 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.840 respond thank you Mr CEO to both 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:55.960 questions yes the necessity structure 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:57.840 amount and fairness of rates are a 00:16:57.919 --> 00:16:59.679 subject of extensive consideration and 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:01.759 debate by officers and counselors the 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:03.080 state government is responsible for 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:05.039 setting a rate cap to limit how much 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:07.799 rates can increase each year within the 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:09.200 current term Council has previously 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:10.759 amended officer recommendations in the 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:12.200 application and collection of rates 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:13.519 during covid impacted years when 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:17.119 Community Support was at its 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.960 greatest the next question is from Juan 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:22.799 Zia questions are regarding the revamp a 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:24.720 toilets at the Turner Road Reserve hired 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:26.200 facilities can you please explain what 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:28.000 is meant by converting the current 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:29.720 public toilets to all gender pire 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:31.960 change facilities as well as exploring 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:33.759 reconfiguring the existing change rooms 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:35.839 to meet all gender requirements and will 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:37.480 girls and women who meet the definition 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:39.279 of being biologically female have 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:41.839 separate toilet and change room Etc 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:43.480 safe space facilities at the new tener 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:45.480 Road Reserve he sporting Reserve 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:47.279 facility revamp that is being proposed 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:48.880 or will the facilities for women be open 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.880 to transgender women as well I'll ask 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:53.680 Sam Cru general manager infrastructure 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:55.720 and open space 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:58.440 t thank you and through you mayor 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:00.160 council 's Pavilion assessment and 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:02.119 prioritization policy establishes a 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:04.720 framework which objectively assesses and 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:07.000 prioritizes existing sporting Reserve 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:09.400 Pavilions for future development key in 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:10.920 this policy is the provision of 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:13.400 inclusive and accessible spaces 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:14.839 including the provision of gender 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:16.759 inclusive design for women and gender 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:19.240 diverse friendly upgrades providing 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:21.160 gender inclusive design in change rooms 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:23.359 and pire rooms enables a broad range 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:26.160 of our community to use these spaces 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:28.240 they are designed to feel safe to use by 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:30.680 any G teams playing their sport at the 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:32.759 reserve through the provision of private 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:35.359 cubicles for toilets and 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:38.519 showers next question is from Lissa why 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:40.160 does council say that it will continue 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:42.319 to apply an intersectional lens in 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:43.920 identifying population groups in our 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:46.279 Kingston area where Council separates 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:49.079 people into identity boxes labeled EG 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:51.599 Multicultural older people Aboriginal T 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:53.400 straight Islander 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:56.519 lgbtqia plus people and young people 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:57.880 doesn't this prioritizing of an 00:18:57.960 --> 00:18:59.240 intersectional approach mean that you 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:00.960 will treat these people in these boxes 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:03.079 differently I'll ask Sally Jones general 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:05.240 manager Community strengthening to 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:08.039 respond thanks for your question an 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:10.160 intersectional lens enables inequities 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:11.720 experienced by different population 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:13.920 groups to be factored into the planning 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:15.960 and delivery of actions helping to 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:18.799 reduce barriers and improve access and 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:20.440 participation to Better Health and 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:22.759 well-being outcomes this ensures our 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:24.240 approach to health and well-being is 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:26.279 inclusive and represents the diverse 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:29.079 needs of our community 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:31.839 the next question is from Robert can 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:33.799 you please tell me the full total cost 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:35.599 plus the ongoing cost of Contracting the 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:37.799 communication portal company called bang 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:39.839 the table I was promised to receive a 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:42.000 written response but I'm yet to receive 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:44.799 I'll ask Mr Hogan to respond to this 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:47.440 question thank you apologies a 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:49.079 response wasn't provided soon after the 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:51.400 February meeting I apologize I am 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:53.319 however informed that a response has 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:55.559 been since emailed to you but I'll 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:57.640 also provide that response tonight 00:19:57.720 --> 00:19:58.960 Kingston council's been using the 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:00.480 digital engagement platform bang the 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:02.599 table to host your Kingston youra 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:04.119 consultation since 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:06.279 2016 it allows our community to 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:08.279 participate and provide feedback to help 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:10.079 Council inform make informed 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:12.759 decision- making it costs $ 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:16.440 43,7 to annually and so far has 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:18.799 attracted 67,000 visits to the site in 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:20.519 the last 12 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:22.759 months the next question I'm going to 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:24.960 read out is a consolidation of four 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:27.519 authors they are questions on the same 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:29.599 topic they are questions from Lindsay 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:32.480 Jenny Carly and Alex and the questions 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:35.720 posed by them are as follows Jenny asks 00:20:35.799 --> 00:20:37.079 can we have at least one of the 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:38.480 boardwalks replaced across the 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:41.440 grasslands in the EP Park estate Lindsay 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:43.319 has asked can the council please explain 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:45.000 why they have reversed their commitment 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:47.160 to replace the Epsom Park Wetland 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:49.240 boardwalks clearly although slow 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:50.799 Kingston Council has commenced planning 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:51.839 and committed funding to have the 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:53.960 boardwalks replace this year what has 00:20:54.039 --> 00:20:56.240 happened Alex has asked will Council 00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:57.599 consider the potential for Epsom 00:20:57.680 --> 00:20:59.799 grassland to have a boardwalk or give 00:20:59.880 --> 00:21:02.079 residents an opportunity to determine 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:04.240 how to best realize the space for its 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:06.000 environment and interface with the 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:08.599 community and Carly has asked when will 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:11.119 boardwalks in epsa state be replaced why 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:13.160 can't an alternative be designed and 00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:15.720 built such as one peer like Boardwalk 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.279 I'll ask Miss Cru to respond to the 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:20.920 question thank you through you mayor 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:22.480 council was required to remove the 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:24.440 developer installed deteriorating 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:26.680 boardwalks in the Epsom grasslands for 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:29.319 safety reasons planning immediately 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:31.240 commenced for walking and cycling paths 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:33.039 in the area and we began exploring 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:35.240 opportunities to replace the boardwalks 00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:37.039 as we had hoped to 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:39.319 rebuild unfortunately detailed 00:21:39.400 --> 00:21:40.839 investigations revealed that building 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:43.160 new boardwalks is not feasible through 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:44.599 the project planning process an 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:46.519 ecological assessment of the grass lands 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:48.319 was undertaken which revealed 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:50.240 significant species in the area meaning 00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:51.880 that approval for any construction in 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:54.759 the area is unlikely to be granted 00:21:54.839 --> 00:21:56.920 council did explore minimal impact 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:58.759 piling options for the boardwalk but 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:01.240 these were cost prohibitive whilst we 00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:02.880 acknowledge the disappointment community 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:04.559 members may feel in losing these 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:06.759 boardwalks we will continue to focus on 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:08.319 investing in other pedestrian and 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:10.759 cycling infrastructure in the area that 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:12.799 will improve accessibility and provide 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:14.519 broader Community 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:16.519 benefits the next question is from 00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:19.000 Deborah why has smoned Council on the 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:21.200 very last page of the 22 April agenda 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:22.680 taken out of notice saying they are 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:24.799 going to put the 11 December council 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:26.279 meeting unavailable for the public to 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:28.640 see as designated confidential and 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:31.039 appendix 5 confidential minute situation 00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:34.079 as it relates to section 31h of the 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:35.799 Local Government Act who has made the 00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:37.240 decision to hide the live stream video 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:38.799 of this meeting from the public which 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:40.240 has now been removed from the section of 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:42.519 the council website agenda a minute and 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:43.880 has also been removed from the live 00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:46.440 streaming section on the council website 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:48.960 I'll ask Mr Hogan to respond to the 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:52.119 question thank you any items within a 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:54.000 council agenda which are designated 00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:55.720 confidential under the Local Government 00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:58.119 Act of 2020 are listed in the agenda and 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:00.359 minut with a statement explaining the 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:02.680 reason for their confidential nature the 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:04.920 reference on the last page of the 22nd 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:07.400 of April agenda and minutes relates to a 00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:09.119 contractual matter which is confidential 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:10.920 under the ACT due to the commercial 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:13.000 nature of the information contained and 00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:14.640 the current status of the project 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:17.119 procurement the recording of the 11th of 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:18.920 December council meeting has not been 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:20.920 removed from council's website but can 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:24.319 be found under archived media the next 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:26.599 question is from Jeff is it true that 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:28.400 the register of lobbyists only gets 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:30.839 presented to council once every 2 years 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:32.799 and is it correct that the informal 00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:35.960 meeting records in the 25 March 24 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:37.880 Council agenda there's been a counselor 00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:39.480 or Council planning workshop dealing 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:41.119 with Kingston's strategic Direction and 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:44.400 docents for 2024-25 at which red BRD 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:46.039 Consulting Group were invited to 00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:47.599 participate and where the lobbyists cos 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:50.440 samaris and Simon Welsh participated ask 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:52.559 Mr Hogan to respond to this 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:56.079 question thank you to the first question 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:57.599 yes in accordance with council's 00:23:57.680 --> 00:23:59.839 planning interaction policy council's 00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:01.839 register of contact with lobbyists is 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:04.880 tabled at Council once every 2 years to 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:07.279 the second question yes Redbridge were 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:09.000 invited to address the Council planning 00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:11.119 workshop regarding General polling 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:12.920 research and electoral implications for 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.920 the major parties at both a state and 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:17.000 federal level the presentation is 00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:18.680 intended to assist Council Define its 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:20.839 advocacy approach and understand a range 00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:22.799 of political economic and financial 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.039 considerations impacting our advocacy 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:26.799 platform and local community 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:28.880 opportunities 00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:31.599 next question is from Colin does council 00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:32.920 have direct dealings with the group 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:34.960 calling itself rainbow local government 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:36.880 and does council seek accreditation from 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:38.440 Rainbow local government for its Youth 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:40.640 Services programs or any other Council 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:42.920 programs from these peoples I respond to 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:44.640 these questions by advising Council has 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:46.519 minim direct dealing to Rainbow local 00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:48.599 government but only via correspondence 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:50.599 regarding council's rainbow commitments 00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:52.400 and in answer to the second one no 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:53.880 rainbow local government is not an 00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:56.519 accrediting body for rainbow tick 00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:58.759 accreditation the next p question is 00:24:58.839 --> 00:25:01.200 from jakota why are councilors and 00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:03.039 Council Executives supportive of reforms 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:04.799 which seem to create added burdens upon 00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:06.680 councilors such as broadening the scope 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:08.759 of sanctions upon counselors increasing 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:10.400 the power of a chief Municipal inspector 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:11.799 to issue infringements for certain 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.640 offense upon counselors or formalizing 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:16.440 the ability to suspend or disqualify 00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:18.519 individual councilors I'll ask Mr Hogan 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:21.960 to respond to this question thank you 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:23.400 Council believes in the need for good 00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:24.839 governance in local government and 00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:26.839 supports the principles of transparency 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:28.720 accountability and integrity which Li at 00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:30.319 the heart of the reforms arising from an 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:32.079 investigation and subsequent sanding 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:33.880 report by the independent broad-based 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:35.480 anti-corruption 00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:38.599 commission next question is from Steven 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:41.559 does council propose 30-year lease to 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:44.279 the company launch housing for $1 a year 00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:46.119 of the council own properties at 6 lill 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:49.359 Avenue edithvale and 33 Balon Road Menon 00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:50.720 which has been considered as social 00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:53.160 housing for homeless elderly women going 00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:54.920 to have a defined use that extends to 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.559 transgender women second question is can 00:25:57.640 --> 00:25:59.400 the council CEO on behalf of council 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:01.880 please answer what is a woman the answer 00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:03.319 to the first question in regards to the 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:05.880 social housing is no second question is 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:07.519 in responding to this question on behalf 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:09.759 of council I refer to the Oxford English 00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:11.680 Dictionary that defines a woman both as 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:14.119 an adult Fe female han being and a 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:15.599 person with the qualities traditionally 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.720 associated with females thank you the 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:20.839 next question is from rosin why did the 00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:23.160 CEO Mr Peter Bean read out nearly all 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:24.839 the full names and surnames of residents 00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:26.759 questions in the question time segment 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:28.920 of the recent council meeting when many 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:30.400 of those people had specifically ticked 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:31.720 the box and asked that their names were 00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:34.000 to be withheld for privacy reasons can 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:35.240 the privacy of the residents who 00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:37.279 question Council please be respected by 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:39.799 Kingston CEO and Council I'll also 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:41.319 respond to this question and I do 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:43.400 apologize for that mistake that was made 00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:45.000 the error was recognized and in line 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:47.279 with council's privacy policy all public 00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:48.799 question home submitters were contacted 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:50.440 in writing the week of the meeting via 00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:52.000 the emails provided that acknowledged 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:53.640 this error and that their last names 00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:54.839 were muted on the recording of the 00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:56.720 meeting and not recorded in the minutes 00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:58.799 of the meeting process has been reviewed 00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:00.880 to ensure this does not happen again a 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:02.319 change of process will try to prevent 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:04.960 this error from being made again the 00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:06.519 next question is from Rose how many 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:08.039 internal consultation groups does 00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:10.680 Kingston Kingston Council now created 00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:12.400 and can you name these consultation 00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:14.440 groups I'll ask Mr Hogan to respond to 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.960 this question thank you Mr CEO if I 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:19.880 have understood the question correctly 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:21.680 Council has one formally convened 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:23.880 internal consultation group the Kingston 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:26.079 staff consultation committee other 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:27.319 groups within Council are more 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:28.640 operationally BL 00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:30.480 such as o ands committees or project 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:32.759 control or working groups for particular 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:34.920 capital or operational projects like the 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:36.799 new Swim Center project or our records 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.599 management transformation project the 00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:41.079 next question is from Alex I was 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:43.000 informed by residents around Jack halway 00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:44.559 that they've been schedule at the same 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:46.640 time as street sweeping which has caused 00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:48.200 a clash in that the streets are not 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.240 fully cleaned with with the wheelie bins 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:52.079 creating an obstacle in these streets 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:53.720 this is meant debris acculates on the 00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:55.519 streets with the nearby Wetlands creeks 00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:57.680 and grasslands acculating trash and 00:27:57.759 --> 00:27:59.559 affecting the environment will Council 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:01.319 consider changing either the bin or 00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:03.160 street sweeping schedule so this Clash 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:05.440 can be resolved ask Miss Cru to respond 00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:06.680 to the 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.000 question thank you and through you mayor 00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:10.960 the street sweeping in Jack halt way is 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:12.759 performed every five weeks and on 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:14.759 different days of the week depending on 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:17.079 the time of the year the street sweeping 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:18.920 removes Deb from the gutter of both 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:20.359 sides of the road to ensure the local 00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:22.920 waterways and wetlands are kept clean 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:24.759 the curbside bin collections are always 00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:26.960 undertaken on a Wednesday and the bins 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:28.519 are collected from the nature strips on 00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:30.920 the southern side of Jack halt way the 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:32.559 curbside bin collection should not 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:34.440 affect street sweeping in Jack halt way 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:36.720 as bins are not placed on the 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:39.039 road the next question is from Douglas 00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:40.759 given concerns and even alarm within the 00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:42.279 height and chelton communities over the 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:44.039 Suburban roll Loop Authority Key 00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:45.920 directions what is council's response 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:47.559 and proposed actions to the impending 00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:49.960 height regulations the gaswork site 00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:52.039 being forced to accommodate open space 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:54.240 loss from s William fry reserve and to 00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:56.920 build higher Towers up to 18 Stories the 00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:58.519 near doubling of height and sham 00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:00.440 populations and the traffic gridlock 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:02.480 resulting from Towers above South LW Bay 00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:04.440 Road is narrowed and additional traffic 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:06.440 lights installed on both NEP and Highway 00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:08.759 and Bay Road I'll ask Mr Jonathan Gman 00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.480 general manager planning of place to 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:14.079 respond through you mayor Davy Burns 00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:17.039 since 2020 Council has undertaken a 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.079 significant program of advocacy in 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:20.480 response to the state government of 00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:23.039 urban rail Loop project this includes 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.119 the adoption of council's chelham 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:27.519 suburban rail Loop design advocacy 00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:31.440 reporting 2021 and active participation 00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:32.680 through the state government's 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:35.279 environmental effect statement process 00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:36.680 this work is sought to clearly 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:39.079 articulate Community concerns and 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:40.759 Council objectives in relation to a 00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:42.440 range of matters including the provision 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:45.000 of open space shared use of path 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.640 connections Community infrastructure and 00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:50.200 affordable housing Council officers are 00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:52.920 currently reviewing the srla recently 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:54.480 released emerging directions for 00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:56.759 cheltonham and Clayton with a submission 00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:58.640 to be presented to C Council for its 00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:01.839 consideration through the June meeting 00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.319 cycle the next question is from Ian in 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:06.039 the Walter go Reserve Park ta outside 00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:07.960 the changing rooms is a dog litter bag 00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:09.960 dispenser however over the last few 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:11.519 months the restocking of the dispenser 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.160 has degraded to the extent that I 00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:14.559 noticed while walking my dog that on 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:16.240 average the dispenser has been empty 00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:18.640 more than 3 days each week I especially 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:19.680 noticed that it mostly would be 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:21.799 exhausted by Saturday lunchtimes and not 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.240 restock till after the weekend I'll ask 00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:28.160 Mr Gutman to respond to the question 00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:30.000 mayor Davy Burns I'd like to thank Mr 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.480 bulldock for raising this question the 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:34.960 dog litter bins at Walter go Reserve are 00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:37.519 refilled twice per week with a roll of 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.640 500 bags each time this will be 00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:42.720 increased to three times per week to 00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:44.359 meet the increasing 00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.799 demand second question from Ian could 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:49.279 Council please check the foot path 00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.079 levels in parkal close to the high 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.000 school and take action to ensure that 00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:54.680 the paths are maintained and made level 00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:56.559 to ensure smooth passage for all 00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:58.839 pedestrians ask m to respond to the 00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.079 question thank you and through the mayor 00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:02.799 all residential foot paths within 00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.839 Kingston are proactively inspected every 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.519 3 years as per council's Road management 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:09.960 plan the area around Parkdale Secondary 00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.000 College was last inspected in October 00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:14.440 2023 and staff undertook remedial 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:16.319 actions on any defects observed that 00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:19.000 exceeded intervention levels where minor 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:20.400 displacements in the foot path were 00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:22.240 observed preventative maintenance Works 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:23.640 have been programmed with our 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:25.880 contractors these Works include grinding 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:28.039 down imperfections to make for for a 00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:29.880 smoother transition between concrete 00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:32.400 panels residents are welcome to report 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:34.160 specific locations for additional 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:35.920 inspections and 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:37.799 maintenance next question is from 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:40.000 Douglas with the DraStic dentification 00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:41.640 facing hi from state government and 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.359 issues including the srla directions and 00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:46.559 dop draft standards to reduce or 00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:48.519 eliminate minim parking requirements 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:50.680 for apartments and locations like highed 00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:52.119 activity center with medi public 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.160 transport accessibility what is the 00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:55.680 council's response to the resultant 00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:57.279 reduction of public amenity and 00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:59.319 livability including less public open 00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:01.160 space and massively increased pressure 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:02.559 on local infrastructure including 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:04.759 schools kindergartens maternal care and 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:06.599 community centers for which there appear 00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:08.839 is no government budget provision within 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:11.119 published plans ask Mr Gutman to respond 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:13.599 to the question through you may David 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:15.680 Burns council's adopted chelham Suburban 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.559 rail advocacy report 2021 presented an 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:21.279 integrated vision for the precinct with 00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:23.519 a focus on open space integrated Water 00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:25.759 Management Community infrastructure 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.359 traffic management environmentally 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.640 sustain design and sustainable transport 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.559 this work informed council's subsequent 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.079 submissions and advocacy through the 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.559 state government's AES advisory 00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.400 committee hearing Council officers are 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:40.400 currently reviewing the srl's emerging 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.880 directions for chelham and Clayton with 00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:44.759 a submission to be presented to council 00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:46.640 for its consideration through the June 00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:48.279 meeting 00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:51.359 cycle next question from rosemary how 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:52.839 many trees and how much Native 00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.519 vegetation of which spe species and EVC 00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:58.759 were removed from 29 to 39 Mills braide 00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:00.279 on what grounds and were council's 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:02.839 informed in advance the question will be 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:04.240 responded by Mr 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:06.920 Goodman three May Davey Burns I'd like 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.000 to thank Miss West for her question item 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:12.599 7.1 relates to town planning application 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.680 decisions from April 2024 the table 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.720 shows a record of permit request kpen 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:24.000 20246 for the land at 29 to39 Mills Road 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.240 Pride which was made in January 2024 for 00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:29.640 the remov of native vegetation 00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:31.720 specifically one tree at Southern 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:34.839 mahogany as stipulated in the table the 00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.119 decision on the application was that no 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.079 permit was required following a referral 00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:42.279 to an expert ecologist it was 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.759 established that no permit was required 00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.839 as it was deemed to have been planted 00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:49.880 vegetation a such Council issued a no 00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:51.960 planning permit required letter to the 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.440 applicant in April 00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:58.160 204 final question seting mayor is from 00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.079 rosemary have the four Bank seers 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.079 Council resolved in February 2023 to be 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.119 planted on the four Shore and the eight 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:05.480 Bank seers to be planted on other 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.160 Council reserv to replace the four Banks 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.199 ears removed for the for the rebuilding 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:11.239 of Park our Sailing Club yet being 00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:14.119 planted and if so we ask Miss cruel to 00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:15.639 respond to the 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.159 question thank you and through you mayor 00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.119 the four Coastal Banks has plann to be 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.119 planted north of the Parkdale yot Club 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.280 have not been planted yet and are part 00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:26.119 of the contract to build the accessible 00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:27.599 pedestrian ramp to the foreshore which 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:29.639 which is currently under construction 00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:31.199 this project is due for completion by 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:33.679 mid 2024 in relation to the eight 00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:35.119 bankses we will need to come back to 00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:36.800 miss West on this 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.400 question that concludes public questions 00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:42.639 May thank you very much Mr Bean and 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:44.920 also to our executive leadership team 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.719 for compiling those responses and thank 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:49.440 you to those who were able to submit qu 00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:50.440 00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.480 questions we'll now turn to our broader 00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:55.800 agenda for the council meeting 00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:58.039 councilors I believe we have a 00:34:58.119 --> 00:34:59.599 councelor who would like to move the 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.880 procedural motion that we or 00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:04.320 the order of business be altered to 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.159 consider item 00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:09.000 11.1 adoption of the budget financial 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:11.360 plan and revenue rating plan prior to 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:13.679 item 00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.639 8.1 thank you I'd like to move the 00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:18.679 procedural motion you just referred to 00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:20.320 thank you thank you very much councilor 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.519 how and councelor Davies will second 00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:25.960 that councilors does this item require 00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:29.480 any debate from you 00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:31.920 no I'll put the item to the vote all 00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:34.159 those in 00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:38.840 favor that's carried unanimously thank 00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:43.880 you so we'll just give everyone a moment 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:47.239 so counselors we will bring forward item 00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:51.400 11 sorry we will move to item 7.1 which 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:56.400 is the town planning decisions 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:00.000 I will'll complete the planning and 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:04.320 place reports prior to 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.039 prior to then contemplating item 11.1 00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:10.719 thank you thank you councelor Oxley 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:12.039 thank you very much and seconded by 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.400 councelor Davies thank you councilors 00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.719 any debate required no we'll put this to 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:18.199 the vote all those in 00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:20.440 favor and that's carried unanimously 00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:25.599 thank you item 7.2 KP 2023 454 that's 00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:29.559 138 White Street and 41 to 143 McDonald 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:33.920 Street M alic we do have a applicant 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.119 this evening to speak for this item Mr 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:38.920 John glassup who I believe is here in 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:40.599 person I'd like to invite you forward 00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:43.320 Please Mr 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.000 glassup thank 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:51.800 you welcome to the meeting and thank you 00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.519 very much for your attendance tonight I 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:56.000 believe you're speaking on behalf of the 00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:57.559 applicant 00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:59.639 wonderful you are welcome to sit or to 00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:03.039 stand you will have 4 minutes to to 00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:05.480 speak to this application and your time 00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:07.280 starts when you begin 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.719 speaking are there any questions you 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:11.440 happy to 00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:14.320 proceed thank you thank you good 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.280 evening Madame mayor and counselors and 00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:18.400 staff my name is John glossup I'm a 00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:20.199 director of glossip town planning we 00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.880 were the company representing the permit 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:24.719 applicant in this matter which is 00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:28.760 chapter 04 proprietary Limited 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:32.440 firstly would like to thank the 00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:34.519 staff for proactively managing this 00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:36.760 application we've worked diligently with 00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.199 them since lodging the application to 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:41.079 achieve their support and we're very 00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:43.599 pleased that it's resulted in a 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.119 recommendation for support of The 00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:50.480 Proposal by way of strategic planning 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.840 background and I love a good statistic 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.000 but your planning scheme tells me 00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:58.039 that your population in 2016 was just 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:04.119 under 158,000 people which comprised of 00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.400 61,62 households at an average household 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.960 size of 2.5 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:14.920 people now as I'm sure you know 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.079 your population is growing and your 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.119 planning scheme tells me that it's 00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:21.639 projected to reach a population of just 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.880 under 191,000 people by 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:27.559 2036 that would result in an estimate 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:28.679 at 00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:30.559 77,4 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:34.760 households a total increase of 00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:38.119 15,375 households over that period so 00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:40.840 where are these people going to go 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:44.480 your planning scheme is clear in 00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:46.119 directing in that it 00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.360 directs higher densities to areas 00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:52.440 that your planning scheme nominates a 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:56.199 substantial change area my client 00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:58.000 purchased this property with the 00:38:58.079 --> 00:38:59.559 understanding that it had the Strategic 00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.480 settings in place to facilitate growth 00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:04.679 and development of this nature and 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:06.840 that's recognized by its designation as 00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.199 a substantial change area in the 00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:10.719 planning scheme and of course that was 00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:13.559 only recently changed via Amendment 00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:15.880 c23 which introduced your housing 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:17.760 strategy and neighborhood character 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:20.000 study into the planning 00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:23.639 scheme as you know the land is 00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:26.039 owned mixed use and the purpose of the 00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:29.280 mixed use zone is to it has a purpose to 00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:31.639 provide housing at higher 00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:34.039 densities relevantly there is no height 00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:36.679 limit in the mixed juuse Zone there is 00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.159 no Garden area requirement and as a 00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:40.360 consequence it's one of the more 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:42.079 facilitative zones in your planning 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.480 scheme for this type of development 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:48.360 proposal in our view the proposed 00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:50.199 development directly responds to the 00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.000 purpose of the mixed use Zone and the 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.519 strategic planning settings of your 00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.800 scheme by providing a site responsive 00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.280 design for 20 new tow 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:03.920 houses as you know the supply of smaller 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.199 and more affordable housing will assist 00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:08.199 your municipality to provide for the 00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:11.800 increasing demand of these housing types 00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:14.119 as well as catering for a growing and 00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.480 aging 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:18.800 population 00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:21.519 given its designation as a 00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:24.280 substantial change area that indicates 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:26.880 that this is an area that your planning 00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:29.039 scheme privileges for smaller format 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.320 housing and it does that because of its 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:35.079 locational attributes amongst other 00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:39.559 things moving on from the the 00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:41.280 planning scheme stuff for one moment 00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:42.840 you'd be aware that there were three 00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.159 objections lodged effect of this 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:49.599 application we sought to organize 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:51.199 a consultation meeting with the 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:52.880 objectives to better understand what 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:54.960 their views were and the reason we did 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:56.519 that was because their objections were 00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:59.199 somewhat unus usual and in some cases as 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:00.760 is confirmed by your planning officer 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:02.599 report not strictly town planning 00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:04.320 matters unfortunately none of the 00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.280 objectives turned up to the 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:07.960 consultation meeting which was a shame 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:09.400 because we were Keen to hear more from 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:11.559 them but we're confident that the 00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:15.440 recommendations of your officer as 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:18.039 well as your other internal referral 00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:20.639 departments have addressed those matters 00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:22.760 I'm happy to elaborate on those matters 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.719 but my time is up so I will finish by 00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:28.360 saying we hope that we can secure 00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:31.119 Council support for this proposal in 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:32.639 line with the recommendation of your 00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:34.719 officer thank you for your time tonight 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:36.280 thank you very much Mr glossup if you 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:37.440 wouldn't mind just turning your 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.800 microphone off and if you could just 00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:41.239 return to your seat in the gallery 00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:45.199 whilst we debate the item thank you very 00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:50.679 much counselors I'll Now call for a 00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:54.559 motion for this item councelor 00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:56.400 Hill would you like to move the 00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:57.880 recommendation on the the 00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:01.119 screen yes thank you may JDB thank you 00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:03.159 very much councelor Hill do we have a 00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:05.960 second thank you councelor Beasley 00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.000 councelor 00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:10.639 Hill thank you mayor I just want 00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:14.960 to start just by mentioning I know 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.199 unfortunately councilor Cochran can't 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.360 be with us here this evening this is 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:22.800 an application that's in his Ward he's 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.119 taken a keen interest in This I Know 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:27.559 spoken at length with our offic with 00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:28.760 regards to the 00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:33.079 application where he's landed with 00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:35.159 this is that he is comfortable with the 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:36.679 recommendation that we've received from 00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:37.440 our 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:41.000 officers in deciding that I would 00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.360 look to move this motion this evening 00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.159 I've done a little bit of leg work as 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.000 well I've I've firstly gone to the 00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.480 objetives the notes from our 00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:53.960 objetives and the things the items they 00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.519 were objecting on the two things that 00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.760 really stuck out to me was a a 00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:03.320 flooding incident that I believe was 00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:06.639 from the development 137 McDonald Street 00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:08.639 and the fear that this new development 00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:11.239 might add to pressures on that local 00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:15.840 drain system I have been able to get 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:18.519 information back today from from our 00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:22.159 officer who's confirmed that the 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.880 Inlet drain that this development and 00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:29.559 and the development at 13 7 feed into 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:33.320 is located on White Street which is a 00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.079 a drain that sort of falls under the 00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:38.280 Department of Transport so ultimately 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:40.960 that will be something that is resolved 00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:42.920 by Department of Transport but saying 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:47.199 that when we actually have a look at 00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.920 you know the storm water management 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.000 that has been addressed in the report 00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:54.800 our officers are very confident that 00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:57.679 this will not pose a risk to the local 00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.519 storm water system so I've got to say 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:04.199 that that gave me a high level of 00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.639 confidence in what is being proposed 00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.760 this evening the other matter that 00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:13.719 came up I think on maybe all three 00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:17.119 objections was around the parking in the 00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:21.320 area I do note that there's 2 two 00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:23.480 three-bedroom sorry three story 00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:26.079 two-bedroom tow houses all of which 00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:28.039 have a parking require for one car park 00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:31.000 per dwelling that is being satisfied in 00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.320 what's being proposed there was also 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:38.079 an additional requirement for four 00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:41.320 visitor car Parks which is not being 00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:44.280 delivered so that I also wanted to 00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:45.880 get a level of Confidence from our 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:50.239 officers as to why it won't add extra 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:55.039 stress on the local Road system and 00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:56.960 with our assessment one thing we we've 00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:58.840 we've come to the conclusion of is there 00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:01.400 will be most likely two additional on 00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.079 street car Parks delivered as a result 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.360 of this and then also as part of our 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.280 that's just the way I think you know 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:11.119 when we the roads and everything are 00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:12.760 managed that once it's all done and 00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:14.559 dusted there should be a couple more on 00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:18.800 street car Parks but then as well the 00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:20.119 when we did our assessment there was 00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.840 quite quite a few cars who are parked on 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:24.480 the street who are actually customers of 00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:27.400 the cafe which will no longer be 00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.679 on on site so when we balance those 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.000 things up if there are four additional 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.280 visitors visiting the development it's 00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.440 likely that that will actually be 00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:39.840 absorbed with what's going to be 00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.880 available locally anyway so given those 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:45.119 two things I I feel much more confident 00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:47.280 I actually got to say that you know we 00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:49.320 talk about diversity of housing options 00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:51.719 I think this is a really good example of 00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.440 of delivering something other than 00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:57.119 you know apartment blocks or 00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:58.840 conventional tow houses which tend to be 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:00.840 bigger and more expensive I think this 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:03.920 is a really good alternative for 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:05.239 people in a whole range of different 00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:06.880 circstances that I'm really 00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:11.119 comfortable with I did notice the 00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:13.559 you know ESD is actually really strong 00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:16.280 even with things like the I think 00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:19.079 80% of the building waste is to be 00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:21.480 recycled times up if I could just have 00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:23.000 just a time a little bit more time thank 00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:24.280 you certainly Council hill I'll Grant 00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:25.840 you a two-minute extension through the 00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.920 chair and 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.719 yes sorry and look there were 00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:33.440 other measures estd measures that are 00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:36.039 outlined in the report I think its 00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.400 rating was 6.5 but when I actually read 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:41.679 through the report it it sort of gives 00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:45.400 me a belief that it almost excels 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:48.920 above the 6.5 star rating that's that's 00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.360 noted and there's even like recycled 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:53.840 content in the concrete that's being 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.719 used Etc so it's I I think really 00:46:57.800 --> 00:46:59.920 good development that will no doubt 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:03.239 appeal to a lot of people in a range of 00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:05.480 circstances given that I've got a 00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.760 level of confidence in some of those 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.840 issues that the objectives raised I'm 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:12.360 I'm very satisfied I think this is a 00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:14.079 very good application before us this 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.039 evening thank you thank you very much 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:18.440 councelor Hill councelor Beasley do you 00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:21.400 wish to speak to this item thank 00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:27.320 you thank you Madam or may JDB 00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:30.280 I just wanted to to mention I think 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:32.639 Council Hill's done a really good job of 00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:36.239 of of smar and why this 00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:40.039 development is acceptable I'm 00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:42.239 actually I think we've been waiting for 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:48.159 this for over 19 years when I first came 00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:51.880 to to look at Kingston I this was a 00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:54.800 really good estate the Epson Park estate 00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.360 and one of the factors that helped me 00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:03.679 back was this site this is a gateway to 00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.199 this development and it's actually a bit 00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.719 off-putting in its current form and 00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:12.119 this is what's been needed but I 00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:14.599 think this will actually do a lot for 00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:16.639 everyone on the Epson Parker EST State 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:18.800 because this is what you see if and this 00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:21.000 is one of the gateways into the epon 00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:25.000 park state so I I really like the 00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:27.840 Aesthetics of it but more important ly I 00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.360 I think it's it's necessary from for 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:32.519 everything that councelor Hill said but 00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:36.760 I I think this is a a beautiful concept 00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:40.679 for the Gateway site to epon Park 00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:43.800 thank you thank you very much councelor 00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:46.079 Beasley councilors would anyone else 00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:49.199 like to speak to this 00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.039 motion if no debate is required canc do 00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:01.320 required a close no councilors I'll put 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:03.840 this item to the vote then and ask all 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:06.320 those in 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:09.920 favor I'll declare that carried 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:12.920 unanimously thank 00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:15.960 you thank you 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:19.039 counselors 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.559 right as we had noted via our procedural 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:26.679 motion earlier we are now moving forward 00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:29.119 words so those who are viewing the 00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:32.679 council meeting online or 00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:35.199 in Sor we'll just take a pause for a 00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.639 question to be asked K did you have a 00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.679 question Council s do you have a 00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:43.639 question okay I'll continue thank you 00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.960 those who are in the gallery and online 00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:48.159 we voted earlier to have a procedural 00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:49.920 motion which is where we brought forward 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:53.280 an item of the agenda that has been set 00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.599 and we vote voted as a group to do that 00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:59.000 so you'll need to go to item 00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:02.960 11.1 so you need to flick 00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:06.199 forward this is the adoption of the 00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:10.960 20242 budget the 24 to 2034 financial 00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:14.360 plan and the 2024 to 28 revenue and 00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:16.880 rating 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.400 plan so councilors we can see that on 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.840 the screen here we have a recommendation 00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:28.320 with a range of items 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.400 councilors do we have a motion this 00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:33.960 evening thank you councilor s I'd just 00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:36.239 like to move the motion on the screen 00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:38.320 but just with two amendments that were 00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:40.639 previously circulated thank you 00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:42.400 councilor s just one moment we'll bring 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:44.000 those up and confirm that they are the 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.440 correct 00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:52.280 ones is that right 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.239 just conferring with councelor Eden 00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.119 that's the right wording thank you 00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:11.400 councilor s so we'll have councelor 00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:13.880 Eden did you wish to note something 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:14.880 yeah I was just going to say I'm happy 00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.119 to second that one I just wanted to ask 00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:19.519 if the move is happy and just confirming 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.400 as well through you if I may that the 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.119 wording just be amended to say 00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.119 project has 100,000 funding allocated in 00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:28.360 2024 00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.159 2025 for planning or preliminary 00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.320 works if that's suitable just to make it 00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:35.559 clear that it's not 100,000 for both 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:37.320 years and then I'm happy to second that 00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:39.199 thank you I can see that the Mover has 00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:41.119 agreed and and we'll just have 00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:44.119 governance make that 00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:47.559 change so not that edal Wetlands 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.199 pedestrian project has $100,000 funding 00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:51.880 allocated in 00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.360 20242 for planning or preliminary works 00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:55.559 and is currently scheduled for 00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:58.480 construction in 2025 00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:02.360 2026 Point 18 in adopting the 20242 00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:04.000 budget and the fees and charges 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:05.960 scheduled the venue High fee increases 00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.800 are to be capped at 100% with any 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:10.400 affected fee increases Above This 00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:12.239 threshold subject to a further report to 00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:14.559 council for 00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:16.280 approval 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:18.840 and can you scroll down sorry there 00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:21.239 might be 00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:25.239 a no there should be another Point all 00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:26.639 right Council s we'll just take take a 00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.079 moment with governance to confirm the 00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:30.760 third additional point which you were 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:32.719 seeking to 00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:37.199 add I I'll just send it to 00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:43.280 them thanks everyone we'll just take a 00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:57.880 moment I don't mind reading it out maybe 00:52:57.960 --> 00:52:59.280 sure that would be great thank you 00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:02.159 councelor s so a point 19 that should 00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:06.320 read supports existing regular Community 00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:08.320 venue hirers of the above mentioned 00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:11.480 venues affected by the fee change with 00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:13.280 transition by 00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:15.360 retaining oh I think they they've got it 00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:16.559 copied they're just trying to copy it 00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:18.599 across but just for the sake of yes 00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:20.519 thank you just for time thank you sorry 00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:22.239 so the the the additional point that I 00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:24.280 was adding was that supports existing 00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.840 regular Community venue hirers of the 00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:28.679 above mentioned venues affected so the 00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:32.760 ones from point 18 by the fee 00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:35.679 changes with transition by retaining 00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:39.280 the 2023 24 fees for these hires in the 00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:43.519 2024 2025 Financial 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.199 Year all right thank you councilor sa 00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:49.159 for reading that 00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:55.079 out thank 00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:57.480 you and governance have located the 00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:01.800 alternate motion the final 00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:03.719 Point perhaps all we're bringing that up 00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:05.599 on screen councelor Eden you suggested 00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:07.400 you were looking to Second this motion 00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:09.559 is that correct all right so I've noted 00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:11.280 councelor Sab has moved councelor Eden 00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:13.400 is seconding councilors perhaps while 00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:15.079 we're waiting for that final dot point 00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:18.000 to come up on the screen we might begin 00:54:18.079 --> 00:54:20.079 debate councelor s would you like to 00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.039 proce to do that so I'm happy to move 00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:24.320 this motion with the Amendments from 00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.000 councilor Eden and myself for the 00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:28.760 adoption of the 00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:33.280 20242 budget the 2024 to 2034 financial 00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:37.320 plan and the 2024 to 2028 revenue and 00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:40.719 rating plan the motion tonight that 00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:42.679 we're considering is the culmination of 00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:44.960 months of work so I just wanted to 00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:48.559 initially begin with some thanks to 00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:52.000 Bernard Rowen our CFO and his team 00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.360 specifically that of Magda hjac and 00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:57.199 Yenni Lim but also to Christine 00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:59.800 palfrey for her assistance with the 00:54:59.880 --> 00:55:01.800 venue fees and hires that we were 00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:03.760 discussing which is last two points 00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:05.719 which was a point of discussion between 00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:07.440 counselors that we wanted to ensure was 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:09.559 included I did also wanted to 00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:12.320 acknowledge the comm's team who 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.239 undertook some significant engagement 00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:16.840 with our community Through The Talking 00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:19.480 Kingston model which is a new system 00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:20.960 that we're running which is a year round 00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:22.599 system where people can make submissions 00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:24.519 and the reason I wanted to specifically 00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:26.280 acknowledge them is that we had over 4 00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:29.880 430 submissions over 430 submissions to 00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:32.800 the talking Kingston portal for our 00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:34.719 grants for our budget which is you 00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:37.639 know it is an amazing to see we also had 00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:39.199 a special council meeting where we had 00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.280 over 20 Community groups come and 00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:43.800 Community groups and residents actually 00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:45.679 with their ideas come and present to 00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:47.000 council which is a really beautiful 00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:48.039 thing to see and they were really 00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:49.400 passionate and actually were capturing 00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:52.079 things that we did Miss so it was really 00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:53.280 it was a great experience that we were 00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:55.159 able to run that and that is also an 00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:56.880 acknowledgement to council who suggested 00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:58.519 that is a continuing thing that we do 00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:00.679 Endeavor to do so acknowledgement to 00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:04.320 that as well I am really proud I 00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:06.199 should also acknowledge the whole of the 00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:07.800 Kingson organization actually and all 00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:09.480 the different teams that work together 00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:11.360 to bring this budget forward by a whole 00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:13.480 month but also have it in a shape 00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:15.480 that is something that we can all be 00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:17.639 very proud of it is something I'm 00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:19.280 proud of the one that is before us it's 00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:21.599 a financially responsible budget that is 00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:23.199 fair and considerate of the current 00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:25.559 economic environment and with the 00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:27.840 Amendments that put forward it is 00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:29.360 something that we you know through 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.239 rigorous work with yourself Madame mayor 00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:33.639 and through councel Hill specifically 00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:36.159 where demonstrating that even further 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:37.760 by ensuring while we go through a 00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:39.559 process of streamlining and simplifying 00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.079 and in some cases reducing our charges 00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:45.000 Community groups for venue fee hires 00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:46.719 and but for where they've increased we 00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:49.599 are capping them completely and we 00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:51.280 are assisting those groups who do use 00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:52.440 those facilities where there is a 00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:54.519 significant increase to transition to 00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:55.679 those additional costs and that's what 00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:59.000 we're seeking with those amendments 00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:02.199 in addition to those changes that are 00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:03.639 responsible to what our community is 00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:04.639 currently going through and the 00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:07.039 challenges that they're dealing with 00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.119 we're also not seeking to increase 00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:11.559 our Municipal charge but we are 00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:13.559 increasing our pensioner rebate as well 00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:15.280 so we are catering towards our community 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:18.320 to ensuring that there is a sensible 00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:20.119 approach to the way that we are charging 00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:22.360 our fees in this budget we are 00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:24.880 allocating $1.8 million towards our 00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:27.559 grant program which when benchmarked is 00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:29.320 incredibly large relative to all the 00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:32.079 other councils across Victoria this 00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:34.360 follows an extensive Grant review 00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:36.079 process to make our grants more 00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:38.119 accessible and covering groups that may 00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:39.800 have actually fallen through the craps 00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:41.719 the cracks previously with no 00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:43.039 opportunity for 00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.639 funding this includes as well a budget 00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.199 allocation to see another 4,500 new 00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:51.599 mature trees planted throughout Kingston 00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:53.599 not including the feed stock and other 00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:55.519 plantings we do this budget will also 00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:57.840 see fur investment into modic Festival 00:57:57.920 --> 00:57:59.559 which we know has seen year on-ear a 00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:01.679 continuous growth with each year 00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:03.480 being bigger and better than the last so 00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:04.960 it's very impressive and we're great to 00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:07.320 see that further investment some 00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:08.840 other quick snapshots for the community 00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:10.280 and for those that are listening tonight 00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:12.559 online or here in the the gallery 00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:15.719 this budget has $14.3 million allocated 00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:17.639 to our roads drains and foot paths and 00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:21.159 bike paths 7.7 million to playgrounds 00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:23.960 and active Recreation spaces over $1.2 00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:26.039 million in investment to our climate and 00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:27.920 ecological emergency response plans 00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:29.920 program of work which is incredible to 00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:31.960 see in this next financial year and they 00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:34.559 do such a fantastic job throughout 00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:36.280 our open space environment team but also 00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:38.639 through our Ser team so a special 00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:41.079 acknowledgement to them as 00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:43.440 well in my neck of the woods we're 00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:46.559 seeing $3.1 million in capital Works 00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:48.960 investment into kakar wward that's 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:51.760 made up of $850,000 towards the north 00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:54.239 chelham early years Center which 00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:56.159 thanks to a state government grant is as 00:58:56.239 --> 00:59:00.960 well of 981 th000 this facility is 00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:02.679 actually nearly completed and it's seen 00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:04.000 some significant progress so if you 00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:05.400 drive past there you will see that it's 00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:07.480 really close to being opened and used by 00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:09.280 our community and we see a larger intake 00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:11.480 of Community usage especially as we 00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:13.599 see our child care facilities and all 00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:15.400 other sort of early years learnings 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.280 are starting to reach their capacity so 00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:18.719 this is a really incredible investment 00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:23.000 by the city the 3.1 is also made up of 00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:27.079 364,000 for the final implement M ation 00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:29.119 of the gria reserve master plan there's 00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:30.719 only last little elements that are left 00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:33.280 and I'm really oh wow that's gone by so 00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:36.360 fast can I just ask for 30 seconds again 00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:39.880 I'll Grant you an extra minute thank you 00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:42.079 councilor we'll ask for the clock to be 00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:43.960 sat I just have two specific ones that I 00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:45.760 do want to acknowledge so I did just 00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:47.440 want to call out specifically that in 00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:49.079 this budget we are also seeing the 00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:51.119 implementation sorry the funding for the 00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:53.760 master planning for leage Park master 00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:56.039 plan and for namit Jura Park which are 00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:58.119 both reserves that have been long sought 00:59:58.199 --> 00:59:59.079 for funding through the state 00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:00.480 governments and and projects and it's 01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:01.280 something that we've been really 01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:03.960 striving to try to get funded and I'm so 01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.119 glad to see these funded in this budget 01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:07.960 I just recently received emails from 01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:11.119 leage Park users asking me where 01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:12.840 we've gotten to with that space and I'm 01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:14.480 so glad once this is adopted and I 01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:16.280 hopefully it is adopted this evening 01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:17.639 that I can share this news with them 01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:19.599 that we are moving towards that and 01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:21.199 especially for nadera Park which while 01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.519 not in kakar Ward is in bundel Ward 01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:25.880 but I know a lot of users through 01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:28.519 throughout our city and even outside of 01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:30.239 council actually come to n jera Park it 01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:32.159 is a destination reserve and to see that 01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:36.360 Master PL plan master plan funding is 01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:38.119 really amazing so I'm really proud to 01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:39.599 present this budget as well and for us 01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:40.960 to adopt it this 01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:43.079 evening thank you very much councelor 01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:46.199 Sab councelor 01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:49.519 Eden yes thank you Madame mayor and 01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:51.559 thank you councelor Sab for going 01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:53.599 through some of those highlights 01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:55.360 there and to all the officers who have 01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:57.360 been involved in this process thank 01:00:57.440 --> 01:00:59.760 you for your diligence in going through 01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:02.679 the whole proposal that is now going 01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:05.679 to probably be our adopted budget in 01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:08.199 only a few minutes time there were a 01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:09.800 couple of projects I did want to touch 01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:12.119 on and I won't go through line by 01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:14.119 line but there has been a substantial 01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:16.559 amount of money invested into 01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:19.239 environmental based initiatives and 01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:20.840 if people have look through the budget 01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:23.559 you can see a substantial investment 01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:26.239 into supply chain improvements looking 01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:28.679 at sustainable resourcing around 01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:32.159 building materials and the circular 01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:35.519 economy as well and if people go to 01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:37.000 page seven of the budget there's a 01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.719 lovely photo of our CEO there but he 01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:42.440 also touches on some of the priority 01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:44.119 areas and they are playgrounds and 01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:46.280 active Recreation and open space 01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:48.880 upgrades as the first key bullet 01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:51.039 point there and that is something 01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:53.880 particularly our residents with kids 01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:56.320 families active sporting groups do value 01:01:56.400 --> 01:01:58.639 about Kingston and that is our open 01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:00.920 space and whilst people may think 01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:03.599 it's easy to maintain open space is in 01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:06.679 fact quite costly to maintain through 01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:09.559 mowing and ongoing maintenance 01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:12.519 services one of the other key 01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:14.599 highlights that I did want to just 01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:16.079 mention because I think it is something 01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:18.760 that is noteworthy is council's 01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:20.639 position when it comes to debt and 01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:23.480 making sure that council is in a 01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:25.239 position to fund some of the major 01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:27.960 projects coming up and if people go 01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:31.440 to page 11 you can see that as of 30 01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:34.079 June 24 we are looking to have debt 01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:36.760 at a level of zero which will put us 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:38.639 in a good position to fund a major 01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.000 project such as the Aquatic Center in 01:02:41.079 --> 01:02:43.800 Kingston but one of the areas we are as 01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:45.920 a council going to have to focus on is 01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:48.519 the grant Revenue and making sure 01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:50.920 that as we see State budgets and federal 01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.440 budgets coming down that have quite deep 01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:56.440 Cuts in them that people in King aren't 01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:59.559 let left worse off with major project 01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:01.880 major projects being put on the line 01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:03.679 and potentially being compromised 01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:05.000 because that is something that could 01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.320 happen particularly given that over 01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:09.320 the past decade we have seen Millions 01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:11.960 upon Millions flow into Kingston through 01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:15.079 Grant streams we certainly don't want to 01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:17.199 see a reverse of that Trend that we 01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:20.320 have benefited from and thank you 01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:22.360 also for the inclusion around just 01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:24.880 pointing out the substantial 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:26.719 improvements that are coming towards 01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.119 Edith Road in particular the foot 01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:32.079 path that I know has been a major issue 01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:34.239 and one that has been brought up Time 01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:36.880 and Time Again by residents and to 01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:38.880 have that funding now committed by this 01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:41.199 Council into the planning coming up 01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:43.960 very shortly and into then ultimately 01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:46.639 the execution and rebuild will be 01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:49.440 something that residents warmly welcome 01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:50.760 and something that hopefully will 01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:52.639 mean Council won't have to continue to 01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:54.880 use temporary you know floating foot 01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:56.400 paths and so forth so I think that's a 01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:58.920 great win for the community and would 01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.199 endorse the budget thank you thank you 01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:03.880 very much councelor 01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:06.679 Eden thank you councelor 01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:09.760 how thank you and certainly the 1.8 01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:13.400 million in Grants for the community does 01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:15.480 work very well for the lowest level of 01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:17.960 our of the council which is the people 01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:19.679 in which we represent and it has a 01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:20.960 profound 01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:24.039 effect Council Eden referred to the term 01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:26.000 debt and there's significant debt tied 01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:29.079 into this budget tonight I believe it's 01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:31.760 in order of something like 56 million of 01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:34.079 debt and over the course of the last 01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:36.599 four years I proposed notice notices of 01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:39.639 motion on the subjects of operational 01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:43.440 efficiencies philanthropist Partnerships 01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:45.960 private sector Partnerships and my 01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:48.360 latest motion which is filed is on the 01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:50.679 topic of expenditure of our Capital 01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:53.119 works and putting a handbreak on that 01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:55.199 and assessing reviewing how this Council 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:56.760 can oper operate as efficiently as 01:04:56.840 --> 01:04:59.239 possible providing the greatest amount 01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:02.360 of Revenue back to the community in 01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:04.599 terms of value for money and consistent 01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:06.480 with how I voted on this subject for the 01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:09.960 past three nights three years sorry 01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:12.159 tonight I will not be supporting this 01:05:12.239 --> 01:05:15.360 item again and principally because of my 01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:17.880 view of how this Council operates in so 01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:21.000 far as expenditure thank thank you 01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:22.000 councelor 01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:26.280 how Council Oxley 01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:29.440 thank you when it comes to budget time 01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:32.320 I'm always a little bit torn because 01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:33.920 there are some really fantastic things 01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:36.719 in this budget and as a council we are 01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:39.119 delivering some great things for our 01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:41.079 community I'm always a little bit torn 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:43.800 when it comes to council signing up for 01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:45.480 what is as Council how mentioned a 01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.679 significant amount of debt I think 01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:50.559 for anyone that that would be something 01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:52.320 we're sitting here going is that 01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:54.320 something this Council needs to do given 01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:56.119 how hard we've worked to become debt 01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:58.360 free by the end of this current budget 01:05:58.440 --> 01:05:59.880 that we're this current budget year that 01:05:59.960 --> 01:06:01.320 we're currently 01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:03.719 in I think the community have told us 01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:06.440 though that the Aquatic Center is needed 01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:08.920 the Aquatic Center is something that we 01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:11.000 we do need to fund but I think there 01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:13.039 comes a point where we do seriously need 01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.039 to consider as this Council as the 01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:17.320 progression of that project nears 01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:20.480 completion nears the start of build how 01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:23.920 we can cost manage that project and that 01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:25.199 is going to be something that's really 01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:27.360 really important that's just something I 01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:28.840 do want to 01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:31.840 flag like Council how consistent with 01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:34.639 how I voted on budgets in the past and I 01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:36.400 don't want that to take away from the 01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:38.480 Fantastic things that are in this budget 01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:39.760 because there are some fantastic 01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:42.039 projects in this budget there's 01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:43.440 something that for me is a little bit 01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:46.360 different about this budget and that is 01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:49.360 point eight and that is noting that the 01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:51.199 debt collection policy and hardship 01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:53.119 policy are going to be reconsidered by 01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:55.920 Council my apologies Council o some 01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:57.280 people in the gallery just alerted me to 01:06:57.360 --> 01:06:58.440 the fact they're having trouble hearing 01:06:58.519 --> 01:06:59.840 you could I just ask if you could bring 01:06:59.920 --> 01:07:01.920 your microphone a bit closer I do 01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:04.000 apologize for interrupting that's okay 01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:06.280 thanks point eight which is note that 01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:08.039 the debt collection policy and hardship 01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:10.039 policy will be considered by Council and 01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:11.920 reviewed by council at our June council 01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:14.320 meeting this is something that is 01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:17.079 partially the reason that I have voted 01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:19.000 against or abstained on budgets in the 01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:21.679 past and that is the significant impact 01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:24.599 that rates can have on people that are 01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:26.239 doing it tough 01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:28.800 it can be really hard when people 01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:31.159 receive their rat notices and that is 01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:33.599 just another bill on top of potentially 01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:36.360 other bills that just keep piling up and 01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:37.679 up and up potentially on the fridge or 01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:40.559 the kitchen table that make it really 01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:43.039 hard for people and that's something 01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:45.000 that at each budget time I have 01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:46.840 advocated for and put forward for the 01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:48.719 residents in our community that are 01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:51.400 doing it tough because this budget does 01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:53.599 propose a rate increase as have our 01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:56.800 previous budgets and and we have rate 01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:58.440 capping and and all of those things to 01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:01.119 try to minimize those impacts but this 01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:03.880 does propose a rate 01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:05.920 increase I will be supporting this 01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:07.920 budget this evening for the simple fact 01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.679 that we will be reviewing that policy 01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:11.840 that is something that I think we need 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:14.760 to get right that is something that in 01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:18.159 very difficult times for many members of 01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:20.479 our community we need to seriously 01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:22.439 consider how we can support those doing 01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:23.319 it 01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:26.279 tough and those who are really doing it 01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:28.319 tough to make sure that we are 01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:30.760 supporting our community even with a 01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:34.039 proposal of a rate rise so this will be 01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:36.399 supporting the budget for that reason 01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:39.520 but I do caveat that with we do need to 01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:40.840 make sure that in the review of that 01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:43.640 policy we are supporting our 01:08:43.720 --> 01:08:47.439 community thank you Council 01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:50.439 Oxley councelor 01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:53.880 Hill yeah thank you mayor JDB and 01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:56.720 thanks to to council and councelor Eden 01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:59.800 for the amendment this evening I do 01:08:59.880 --> 01:09:03.199 think it was important with regards to 01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:06.600 those changes in the charges to the 01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:10.279 use of of our community facilities that 01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:13.399 we just got that right like I 01:09:13.479 --> 01:09:16.079 understand we're trying to move to a a 01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:20.039 better system of of I guess more fairly 01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:22.520 Distributing those charges but sometimes 01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:25.680 when we do that we get some unintended 01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:28.399 consequences and I think what's 01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:30.520 been proposed this evening irons out 01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:32.520 some of those and I do think that it's 01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:35.359 going to be a fair way to speak with our 01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:36.880 community groups who use these 01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:39.920 facilities to make sure that 01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:41.800 hopefully there aren't increases but 01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:44.319 where they are they're more reasonable 01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:45.840 than than maybe some of the increases we 01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:48.720 saw in the docent I just wanted to 01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:52.520 make the point too that you know time 01:09:52.600 --> 01:09:54.319 times are different to what they maybe 01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:56.359 were a few years ago when when we came 01:09:56.439 --> 01:10:00.000 in to this Council period but I do 01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:01.920 think the budget responds to that too I 01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:05.399 do think this is a responsible budget 01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:07.119 and 01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:10.279 I I think it's important that we 01:10:10.359 --> 01:10:11.880 don't shy away from the fact that we've 01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:14.159 got some really important services that 01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:17.199 we need to deliver to our community 01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:19.279 there is a real multiplier effect as to 01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:21.920 every dollar that we receive through 01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:24.239 various means as to what we deliver back 01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:25.840 to the community 01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:28.720 this is a really responsible 01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:31.159 Council we we've I think proven that not 01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:32.720 just on this term but over previous 01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:35.800 terms as well and our position you 01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:37.640 know Finding ourselves debt free is 01:10:37.720 --> 01:10:41.279 testimony to that I've spoken 01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:42.920 strongly in support of the Aquatic 01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:45.439 Center I do know that that's the maybe 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:47.880 the elephant in the room in terms of 01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:51.119 you know where we go next with with debt 01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:53.840 but similar to when we made the well not 01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:56.319 when we ourselves around this room but 01:10:56.399 --> 01:10:59.119 the previous councils made the 01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:00.960 commitment to find the building that we 01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:01.960 that we're 01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:04.960 in if it's done well these are really 01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:06.840 good decisions for the future and I and 01:11:06.920 --> 01:11:08.439 I've got every confidence that the 01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:10.760 decision to invest in a new Aquatic 01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:12.960 Center and do it in a fiscally 01:11:13.039 --> 01:11:15.119 responsible way is going to be a really 01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:16.720 really good decision for the future of 01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:18.920 Kingston so I'll leave it there thank 01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:21.720 you thank you councelor 01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:24.159 hill I'll call for any other counselors 01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:27.600 who would like to speak to this 01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:35.479 item certainly I would just like to 01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:38.640 amplify the comments made by my 01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:40.439 fellow counselors tonight I think 01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:41.800 there's been an exceptional amount of 01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:44.319 work put into the development of this 01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:47.520 budget I Echo the thanks to the staff 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:49.079 across a number of departments who 01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:51.680 worked very very hard and continue to 01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:53.239 work hard on the implementation of the 01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:55.720 budget it's a big moment in time when a 01:11:55.800 --> 01:11:58.920 budget is put forward but it's also 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:00.640 then a big year ahead making sure that 01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:03.479 those projects those aspirations those 01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:06.199 critical services are delivered upon I 01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:08.920 think we have a lot to be proud of in 01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:11.319 Kingston we do exceptionally well at 01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:13.039 managing budgets we do exceptionally 01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:15.880 well at responding to our community and 01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:19.199 I think we are all very aware of the 01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:21.439 pressures that this community is facing 01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:23.279 through cost of living crisis and 01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:25.640 pressure and that we're looking at any 01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:27.479 point to make sure that we can extend 01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:29.079 support to community members who are 01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:31.359 experiencing 01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:33.600 vulnerability so I'll just take that 01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:36.399 brief moment to share my thanks and 01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:38.680 my support for this budget tonight and 01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:41.039 I'll ask councilor sa if you'd like to 01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:44.520 close thank you just a final 01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:46.920 acknowledgement and thanks to the 01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:50.159 nerous Community groups and those 01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:52.000 who came in to the special council 01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:53.399 meeting as I mentioned earlier who 01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:56.600 submitted to our budget process over 430 01:12:56.680 --> 01:12:58.279 submissions through the talking 01:12:58.359 --> 01:12:59.880 Kingson just to acknowledge that a large 01:12:59.960 --> 01:13:02.279 portion of those submissions have been 01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:05.359 responded to if not all with a large 01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:07.039 portion of those actually being included 01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:08.479 in this budget process or being 01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:10.039 responded to or referred to Future 01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:12.159 budget heing processes which just 01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:13.520 demonstrates how thankful we are that 01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:15.880 our community does engage as a result 01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:17.960 of those who came in and presented to 01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:19.600 our special council meeting about their 01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:21.800 proposals for projects that they wanted 01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:25.199 to see funded as a result of that 01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:27.319 officers have met with a number of those 01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:29.039 and spoken to a number of those 01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:31.720 submitters but also some counselors 01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:34.079 and I'm meeting with a few from my area 01:13:34.159 --> 01:13:35.720 over the next couple of weeks who who 01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:37.319 did come here to the gallery and speak 01:13:37.399 --> 01:13:40.039 to us to actually hear about some 01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:42.520 of their projects so that we can look 01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:43.800 at how we can better support those 01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:45.239 groups so I just wanted to thank our 01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:47.319 community for engaging in the budget 01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:48.720 process making submissions through 01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:50.680 talking Kingston and coming in and 01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:52.800 presenting to us and again I just 01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:54.479 really commend this budget I think it's 01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:55.840 respons 01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:57.279 with the current climate and 01:13:57.359 --> 01:13:59.800 environment that we're in thank you 01:13:59.880 --> 01:14:01.600 thank you councelor Sab counselors I'll 01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:03.479 put this item to the vote all those in 01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:06.600 favor please raise your 01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:12.760 hand just one moment 01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:17.560 counselors thank you all those voting 01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:20.640 against and all those 01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:22.680 abstaining thank you councilors I 01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:26.359 declare that carried 01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:32.399 so for those in the room who just need 01:14:32.479 --> 01:14:34.239 some advice we're going to return 01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:37.079 back to the agenda as it stands in the 01:14:37.159 --> 01:14:39.199 papers that you have there so we're 01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:40.279 returning to 01:14:40.359 --> 01:14:42.920 8.1 if you're online or in person you 01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:46.000 might like to just scroll back to item 01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:46.600 01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:49.560 8.1 this is the draft gambling policy 01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:52.399 councelor Sab thank you Madame mayor I'd 01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:55.079 just like to move a motion to defer this 01:14:55.159 --> 01:14:57.039 item to a future council meeting once 01:14:57.119 --> 01:15:01.479 we've cons once we've consulted with 01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:05.079 the particular stakeholders involved in 01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:07.600 this thank you councelor s councelor 01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:12.000 Davies second thank you councilor s 01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:14.079 I'll just speak very briefly to it 01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:16.159 we're firstly we're thankful for Paul 01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:17.479 and the team for putting together this 01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:18.960 report and getting to this new updated 01:15:19.039 --> 01:15:20.600 policy there is just a couple of items 01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:25.239 in this that have caused a bit of 01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:27.239 I want to say concern amongst the 01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:31.119 counsel group up at the Forefront of 01:15:31.199 --> 01:15:33.239 the decisions that we want to make we 01:15:33.319 --> 01:15:34.960 want to ensure that our community feels 01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:36.319 like they are being supported and not 01:15:36.399 --> 01:15:38.199 being excluded with this policy and we 01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:40.079 understand that the scambling policy 01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:42.039 is trying to achieve we understand what 01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:43.600 it is trying to achieve but we just feel 01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:45.720 like it is slightly misdem Mark in some 01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:47.800 aspects so we're just looking to defer 01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:49.479 this item so that we can have further 01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:51.680 consultation with our offices and with 01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:53.039 those Community groups that would be 01:15:53.119 --> 01:15:55.079 affected by some of the changes that may 01:15:55.159 --> 01:15:57.199 not be totally supported by the 01:15:57.279 --> 01:15:59.439 council is present that's why we're 01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:01.359 looking to defer this item this evening 01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:03.479 thank you councelor s councelor 01:16:03.560 --> 01:16:05.840 Davies yes I would also like to talk 01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:07.439 for deferral because I do have some 01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:11.000 concerns about some of the items the 01:16:11.079 --> 01:16:13.520 changes some of the removal of wording 01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:15.159 I think I sort of referenced in the 01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:17.279 past the law of unintended consequences 01:16:17.359 --> 01:16:19.199 that could that has happened that I 01:16:19.279 --> 01:16:21.119 believe in relation to our grants policy 01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:23.439 where the link between whether you 01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:25.279 have direct funding means you can't get 01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:27.079 support but we're actually asking a 01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:30.359 number of our community groups to get 01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:32.479 rid of their poke keys without having 01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:35.279 the ability to apply for Grants and I am 01:16:35.359 --> 01:16:37.359 concerned about how they'll actually do 01:16:37.439 --> 01:16:40.000 that and still be financially viable and 01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:41.840 a lot of these groups are actually you 01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:45.720 know you know prob societies and and 01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:50.000 quite you know not hot beds of people 01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:52.399 racing in and gambling I do think the 01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:54.359 report does point out you know in terms 01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:55.640 this matters really about online 01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:57.520 gambling is a concern but I'm not I'm 01:16:57.600 --> 01:16:59.880 going off tangent I do have a number of 01:16:59.960 --> 01:17:01.600 concerns about the way this policy is 01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:03.960 drafted and I do think it needs to 01:17:04.039 --> 01:17:05.640 have a bit more work on it thank you 01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:08.720 thank you councelor Davies Council 01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:12.479 Oxley thank you I too support the 01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:14.960 deferral this evening I know that 01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:16.319 there had there is one particular 01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:18.159 stakeholder in my board being the 01:17:18.239 --> 01:17:20.279 Chelsea RSL that would be significantly 01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:22.680 impacted by the changes that are 01:17:22.760 --> 01:17:25.399 proposed in this draft gambling policy 01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:28.880 they're not necessarily against the 01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:30.600 policy and and neither am I and a lot of 01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:32.359 the feedback that I've heard from people 01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:35.119 who've read some of the aspects of 01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:37.640 this in this report this evening are not 01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:40.640 actually against the policy but it is 01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:42.560 going to have some significant impacts 01:17:42.640 --> 01:17:43.640 and I think they're just the things that 01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:45.680 we need to work through before we put 01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:47.600 this out to consultation to The Wider 01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:50.000 Community because they will be 01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:51.439 significant impacts and we need to 01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:53.159 seriously consider those we need to work 01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:55.159 through those I think that's the way 01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:57.760 that we should be doing things and 01:17:57.840 --> 01:17:59.760 working through those things before we 01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:01.680 send it out to consultation and we've 01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:03.760 seen what happens in the past when we do 01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:05.840 that so I think this would be the 01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:07.239 right way to do that there are some 01:18:07.319 --> 01:18:09.680 great things in this policy I I just 01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:10.960 really do want to point that out there 01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:13.479 are some fantastic things and it does 01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:17.640 set a a tone for what Kingston is going 01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:19.359 to be willing to accept in the future 01:18:19.439 --> 01:18:21.880 for gambling given the large number of 01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:23.319 gambling venues we have in the city of 01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:25.560 Kingston so they ask really fantastic 01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:27.319 things that I do want to acknowledge but 01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:29.600 I think just a little bit more 01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:31.680 conversation U needs to be had before 01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:33.479 this is ready to go out to consultation 01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:36.000 with the wider Community thank you thank 01:18:36.079 --> 01:18:38.600 you Council 01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:41.119 Oxley any other councilors like to speak 01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:43.079 to this 01:18:43.159 --> 01:18:46.479 item councelor s would you like to close 01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:48.119 councilors I'll put the item to the vote 01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:50.960 all those in 01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:54.199 favor I declare that carried unanimously 01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:56.359 thank you 01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:59.239 item 8.2 is the municipal public health 01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:01.520 and well-being plan year for Health Plan 01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:02.840 action plan 01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:06.760 adoption do we have a motion 01:19:08.399 --> 01:19:11.640 counselors thank you councelor 01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:13.920 Davies we move that appears on the 01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:16.600 screen thank 01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:19.359 you councilors do we have someone to 01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:20.600 second the 01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:23.279 motion thank you councilor S councelor 01:19:23.359 --> 01:19:25.680 Davis do you wish to speak to the it 01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:28.560 it your reserve thank you and councilor 01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:32.840 s Reserve councilors is any debate 01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:35.279 required I'll put this item to the vote 01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:36.720 all those in 01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:38.640 favor and declare that carried 01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:41.359 unanimously thank 01:19:41.439 --> 01:19:45.000 you item 8.3 lift installation progress 01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:49.319 old men Home Bakery councilor 01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:52.640 Hill I'd like to move an Al alternate 01:19:52.720 --> 01:19:55.439 motion that was foreshadowed it may 01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:58.840 still need a little bit of rewording so 01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:01.479 not a problem let's take it step by 01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:03.600 step so councilor Hill do you want to 01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:05.359 read through what's on the screen for us 01:20:05.439 --> 01:20:07.199 yes so take no further action in 01:20:07.279 --> 01:20:08.960 relation to the installation of a 01:20:09.039 --> 01:20:12.199 four-person lift at the old Menton 01:20:12.279 --> 01:20:15.640 Bakery continue to work with Mor Alon 01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:19.039 District historical soci and options 01:20:19.119 --> 01:20:20.800 and Alternatives that are fit for 01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:23.319 purpose to enable extended use of the 01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:25.159 building 01:20:25.239 --> 01:20:27.159 receive a report this is where I would 01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:31.199 probably like to reword 01:20:31.279 --> 01:20:35.239 do.3 and I 01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:40.840 think yeah if if someone can maybe 01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:43.600 type with me if that can read 01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:45.880 something along the lines I'll happy to 01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:49.159 hear from our general manager if this 01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:51.079 wording is not appropriate but please 01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:54.279 let me know consult with Mor Al and 01:20:54.359 --> 01:20:56.760 District Historical Society just one 01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:01.239 moment consult yeah thank 01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:09.800 you on the timeline for a new 01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:15.560 report to come back to an ordinary 01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:19.039 council meeting 01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:27.760 no later than March 01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:31.680 2025 yeah we're Consulting 01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:36.720 with 01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:39.399 that details the findings and 01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:42.159 recommendation recommended next 01:21:42.239 --> 01:21:44.640 steps thank you and councelor hill I'll 01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:47.720 confirm that you approved line 01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:49.800 four offices provide monthly briefing 01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:51.560 updates to the ward counsil and present 01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:53.159 to councils at an August briefing 01:21:53.239 --> 01:21:55.800 session correct yes all right thank you 01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:57.159 we'll just see if we have a second of 01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:00.640 your motion just one moment councel 01:22:05.680 --> 01:22:08.800 Hill councelor B you'd like to second 01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:12.039 the motion as it appears on the 01:22:12.119 --> 01:22:16.000 screen okay councilor DAV is a question 01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:17.520 yes if I want to move an amendment do I 01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:20.520 have to do that now or at what point 01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:22.319 I'll confirm with 01:22:22.399 --> 01:22:24.720 governance you can do that at any point 01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:27.520 thank you councelor 01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:31.079 Davies so councilors we have this item 01:22:31.159 --> 01:22:32.600 moved by councelor Hill and secutive 01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:34.720 councelor 01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:37.199 Beasley councelor Davies I want to I 01:22:37.279 --> 01:22:39.560 want to change March 01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:43.000 2025 to I realize it we be in caretaker 01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:46.720 in September October so November 2025 01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:49.800 2024 it's way too long we've had five 01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:51.560 years 01:22:51.640 --> 01:22:54.479 already do she a second or justable to 01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:55.840 move in a second I'm just conferring 01:22:55.920 --> 01:22:58.720 with governance one 01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:02.319 moment all right so I've just been 01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:04.479 advised if the Mover and the second are 01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:10.039 agreeable we can in the substantive 01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:15.520 motion I believe it looks like we have 01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:17.520 achieved agreement with the Mover and 01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:18.880 the 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:21.039 seconder could I just ask one other 01:23:21.119 --> 01:23:24.920 question certainly would this item be 01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:26.840 considered something that could not be 01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:31.920 dealt with during caretaker or could 01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:33.439 through to governance if you just give 01:23:33.520 --> 01:23:35.119 us one moment councelor 01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:38.399 Davies can 01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:47.399 call so we have to come before the 01:23:47.479 --> 01:23:52.199 17th special council meeting as another 01:23:52.279 --> 01:23:55.720 option okay all right thank you everyone 01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:57.600 for your patience and thank you to miss 01:23:57.680 --> 01:23:59.159 shlock from our governance team for 01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:01.520 providing the advice that they would 01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:03.159 not be comfortable with an item of this 01:24:03.239 --> 01:24:05.520 nature coming to the council during the 01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:07.840 caretaker period for decision so 01:24:07.920 --> 01:24:09.640 councilors you could consider prior to 01:24:09.720 --> 01:24:11.640 caretaker a special council meeting 01:24:11.720 --> 01:24:13.920 before caretaker commences on the 17th 01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:18.279 of September or as is noted here either 01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:23.359 November of 2024 or March of 2025 01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:29.279 councilors for those watching I'll just 01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:31.319 call a minute for deliberation so that 01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:34.880 you can have these 01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:39.640 discussions just one 01:24:49.399 --> 01:24:54.560 moment What's Next okay 01:25:04.520 --> 01:25:05.960 governance if I could just ask if you 01:25:06.039 --> 01:25:09.560 bring up the motion on the screen is 01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:11.640 just a bit unclear yes thank you Council 01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:14.319 Oxley we'll bring everyone 01:25:14.399 --> 01:25:18.640 back to possibly help resolve it 01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:21.479 on the question of whether it could 01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:23.560 be dealt with during caretaker could 01:25:23.640 --> 01:25:24.960 Council not receive Reed the report 01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:27.079 during caretaker and then if the 01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:29.199 decision needed to be deferred until the 01:25:29.279 --> 01:25:31.960 new Council to make a decision funding 01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:33.239 that that could be done but council 01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:35.359 could receive the report and then defer 01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:37.600 it to November if that needed to happen 01:25:37.680 --> 01:25:39.520 three better I was actually just topping 01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:41.840 a message to say that the way you could 01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:43.319 do it is you could consider you could 01:25:43.399 --> 01:25:45.479 receive a report during caretaker 01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:47.439 period and it' be part of it being 01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:49.000 consider or referred to the budget for 01:25:49.079 --> 01:25:51.359 further 01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:53.479 consideration thank you and for those 01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:55.039 who are watching on l in the gallery 01:25:55.119 --> 01:25:57.560 caretaker a specific period of time 01:25:57.640 --> 01:25:59.960 Council operations around election 01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:02.279 periods only you may like to have a look 01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:04.520 at further information that's provided 01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:06.479 about caretaker period Provisions just 01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:08.920 in case you're not aware of what that is 01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:10.399 so counselors I'm seeking of my 01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:11.880 Amendment if the Mover and the second 01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:14.479 will agree to make the November 2024 01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:17.000 October 01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:20.880 202 move in a second to do you approve 01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:23.319 yes wonderful all right could we 01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:24.680 commence debate 01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:27.199 councilor 01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:30.239 Hill thank you and and look the reason 01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:34.199 for this lengthy discussion prior to 01:26:34.279 --> 01:26:36.760 even debating this matter this is 01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:40.119 something that arose in 2019 with 01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:42.880 regards to a request that led to a 01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:45.960 notice of motion that came before 01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:50.239 Council and it was for a four-person 01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:53.880 lift it was very prescriptive and 01:26:53.960 --> 01:26:56.920 it's nature the the notice motion 01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:59.520 that was before Council it's taken a 01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:01.600 long long time to kind of get to a a 01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:04.840 point where ultimately the Mor alican 01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:06.760 District Historical Society withdrew 01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:09.680 their support for the premise of the 01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:11.560 motion as to you know delivering that 01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:13.039 particular lift because it was going to 01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:16.399 be a really big impost on the on a part 01:27:16.479 --> 01:27:18.479 of the space which would make part of 01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:22.600 the building at the old Bakery 01:27:22.680 --> 01:27:24.640 Muse quite 01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:29.000 unusable so as as a result diff 01:27:29.079 --> 01:27:31.039 you know alternate plans have been drawn 01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:32.880 up they're actually in our 01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:36.560 confidential attachments this evening 01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:40.520 but it is it's fair to say that what 01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:44.079 now the Historical Society are 01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:46.680 requesting based on feedback from our 01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:50.199 officers is is going to be very cost- 01:27:50.279 --> 01:27:52.640 prohibitive so we're falling in a 01:27:52.720 --> 01:27:54.560 falling in a place whereby 01:27:54.640 --> 01:27:57.399 we know that the Historical Society are 01:27:57.479 --> 01:28:01.119 not supportive of the notice emotion 01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:03.359 that was that was lodged back in 2019 01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:06.560 and hence dot point1 that's in effect 01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:09.479 closing off the notice of motion from 01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:12.720 2019 it would be great to be 01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:15.239 discussing what was being requested 01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:17.800 by the Historical Society other than 01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:20.279 it's not only cost prohibitive but it's 01:28:20.359 --> 01:28:22.479 from the feedback we've also 01:28:22.560 --> 01:28:24.680 received it's not actually able to be 01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:27.840 delivered within that building Envelope 01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:30.399 as well so we really need to start from 01:28:30.479 --> 01:28:33.920 scratch in some senses in terms of what 01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:36.880 we're going to go to the 01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:39.760 Historical Society to do now is to 01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:41.720 really openly consult with them with a 01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:43.520 with somewhat of a blank sheet of paper 01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:45.920 obviously There is five years of History 01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:47.840 here so it's not a blank sheet of paper 01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:50.199 per say but it's with an open mind to 01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:52.640 try and get to the Crux of exactly what 01:28:52.720 --> 01:28:55.399 the Historical Society really hoping to 01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:58.000 see delivered as part of this 01:28:58.079 --> 01:29:00.720 Redevelopment of the building but in 01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:04.079 a manner that's I guess going to be 01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:06.960 done so that we can support it it it 01:29:07.039 --> 01:29:08.600 will come within a budget that's 01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:11.880 reasonable so I I guess we're trying 01:29:11.960 --> 01:29:13.880 to find a way that basically all parties 01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:15.960 are happy it won't mean that all 01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:18.720 parties necessarily get what they what 01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:20.920 they're looking for but we'll come up 01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:24.720 with a a an outcome that you know 01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:28.199 will tick all if not at least most of 01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:31.039 the boxes for the you know for the 01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:34.159 historical society and you know we'll 01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:36.000 ultimately end up with a new report in 01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:38.199 front of council that hopefully we'll 01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:40.960 be able to support because it will be 01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:43.159 one that will be you know fiscally 01:29:43.239 --> 01:29:46.359 responsible and I guess acknowledge 01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:49.880 the the needs of the group but also 01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:51.640 you know work within a reasonable budget 01:29:51.720 --> 01:29:53.479 so that's where we've kind of landed 01:29:53.560 --> 01:29:57.000 this evening and hopefully this motion 01:29:57.079 --> 01:30:01.159 communicates that clearly as 01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:02.920 well thank you thank you councelor Hill 01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:05.399 councelor 01:30:06.359 --> 01:30:09.119 Beasley thank you may JDB I just wanted 01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:12.159 to add to what councilor Hill said this 01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:15.199 evening and that is we've got to 01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.079 try and meet the needs of the Historical 01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:22.000 Society in a fiscally responsible way 01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:24.560 and also make this absolutely 01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:27.399 beautiful building accessible to more 01:30:27.479 --> 01:30:29.600 people so I think it is going back to 01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:33.399 those you know the core values of why 01:30:33.479 --> 01:30:35.079 this was a notice of motion in the first 01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:38.000 place about making this more 01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:40.279 accessible to more people being such a 01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:43.159 beautiful building and really just 01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:46.199 what we can run there if if the building 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:49.079 has better accessibility thank you thank 01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:50.520 you very much councelor Beasley 01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:52.079 councelor 01:30:52.159 --> 01:30:55.239 Davies yes I I will speak in support 01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:57.399 of this Motion in its current form 01:30:57.479 --> 01:30:59.920 and I have to say that I was very very 01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:01.880 very shocked to find out that we had a 01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:05.720 motion that had been in effect not 01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:08.319 completed for 5 years I don't think 01:31:08.399 --> 01:31:10.800 that's good practices and I recognize 01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:12.479 that you know Co happened and there's 01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:15.560 been changes of Staff but this is not 01:31:15.640 --> 01:31:18.439 something we should be proud of and I 01:31:18.520 --> 01:31:19.159 understand there might have been 01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:20.640 differences of opinion on what the 01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:23.079 society wanted versus what could be 01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:27.279 achieved but surely we can sit down and 01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:29.640 give them options and work out the 01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:31.960 pricing I have spoken to members of the 01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:34.800 society they're quite happy with a twers 01:31:34.880 --> 01:31:37.319 lift so I would prese when I get this 01:31:37.399 --> 01:31:39.600 we get this report back that one of the 01:31:39.680 --> 01:31:42.159 options will be just a standalone to 01:31:42.239 --> 01:31:44.720 person lift as one of the options and 01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:46.439 obviously I understand that they've 01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:47.960 looked at other ways they might want to 01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:49.439 develop that property and of course that 01:31:49.520 --> 01:31:51.960 can be considered but 01:31:52.039 --> 01:31:54.640 surely we will be bordering on nearly 6 01:31:54.720 --> 01:31:58.199 years if we cannot get this organized as 01:31:58.279 --> 01:32:01.439 a council it is a scathing indictment on 01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:04.199 us frankly so I look forward to seeing 01:32:04.279 --> 01:32:07.640 everyone act in a you know fast and 01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:09.479 efficient manner we've got plenty of 01:32:09.560 --> 01:32:11.239 skilled people in our Council that can 01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:14.600 surely work with our community work out 01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:16.680 what they want couple of options on what 01:32:16.760 --> 01:32:18.439 their wish list might be what is 01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:20.239 realistically able to be achieved and 01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:22.319 let's just get on with it frankly thank 01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:25.399 you thank you counc Davies would any 01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:28.560 other councelor like to debate this 01:32:28.640 --> 01:32:31.079 motion councelor Hill would you like to 01:32:31.159 --> 01:32:33.319 close councelors I'll put the item to 01:32:33.399 --> 01:32:36.560 the vote all those in 01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:39.319 favor I declare that carried unanimously 01:32:39.399 --> 01:32:41.039 thank you 01:32:41.119 --> 01:32:43.479 councelors the next item on the agenda 01:32:43.560 --> 01:32:45.960 is 8.4 outcomes of the community 01:32:46.039 --> 01:32:47.800 consultation related to January 01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:49.079 citizenship 01:32:49.159 --> 01:32:51.000 ceremonies councilors is do have a 01:32:51.079 --> 01:32:54.079 motion 01:32:57.399 --> 01:33:00.159 can I please move an alternative motion 01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:01.479 thank you councilor 01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:03.880 how 01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:08.000 my alternative motion is that the 01:33:08.079 --> 01:33:11.000 council abandons the proposal in the 01:33:11.079 --> 01:33:14.159 report tonight and does not reenter 01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:16.920 conversation about this matter again 01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:19.760 thank you thank you councelor how 01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:21.640 councilors do we have a second for this 01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:24.720 motion 01:33:31.359 --> 01:33:32.800 mayor if there's no secondary that 01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:35.880 motion should lapse thank you changing 01:33:35.960 --> 01:33:38.359 the wording to just abandon and that's 01:33:38.439 --> 01:33:41.399 the conclusion thank you sorry may just 01:33:41.479 --> 01:33:44.840 a point of order under what area of 01:33:44.920 --> 01:33:46.239 point of order would you like to call 01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:49.319 that 01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:01.439 so it could be contrary to the 01:34:01.520 --> 01:34:03.079 governance rules I don't believe there 01:34:03.159 --> 01:34:04.560 is a point of order because it hasn't 01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:07.640 been referred to in the past 20 202s 01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:11.319 counting 20 21 22 23 sorry I'm just 01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:14.199 looking for the specific section where 01:34:14.279 --> 01:34:17.039 the point of order is but I refer to the 01:34:17.119 --> 01:34:19.479 governance outlines that if there isn't 01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:21.520 a secondar to the motion that the motion 01:34:21.600 --> 01:34:23.960 should lapse and we've also C prior to 01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:26.399 this an alternative motion that we 01:34:26.479 --> 01:34:28.600 discussed which I was looking to move we 01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:30.880 were just confirming who was moving 01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:33.119 between the two counselors that were 01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:34.800 preparing that motion I'm looking for 01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:36.159 the specific section in the government's 01:34:36.239 --> 01:34:37.600 rules to which point of order that 01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:39.520 refers to though thank you councelor s i 01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:41.560 will overall that point of order and I 01:34:41.640 --> 01:34:44.800 will allow for a additional moment of 01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:46.479 time to see if there is someone who 01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:48.359 wishes to Second this motion if not it 01:34:48.439 --> 01:34:51.720 will lapse 01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:55.199 Council how it appears that 01:34:55.279 --> 01:34:56.800 unfortunately the motion will need to 01:34:56.880 --> 01:34:58.600 lapse for want of a second but I do 01:34:58.680 --> 01:35:00.680 appreciate your efforts to put forward 01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:01.960 an alternative 01:35:02.039 --> 01:35:04.399 motion so I'd like to move another 01:35:04.479 --> 01:35:06.800 motion mayor an alternative motion that 01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:10.560 was circulated 01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:13.680 prior thank you so is that the motion as 01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:15.720 it appears on the screen coun that's 01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:17.640 correct thank you thank you councilors 01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:19.840 do we have a second for this motion 01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:21.720 councelor Hill councilor 01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:24.239 s thank you madam mayor I'm not going to 01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:26.239 talk long on this one if I can try my 01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:28.000 best to not do that I just wanted to 01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:30.239 note that this previously came to 01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:33.239 council in a previous council meeting 01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:34.800 it was discussed at that point that 01:35:34.880 --> 01:35:36.560 we would go out to consultation with the 01:35:36.640 --> 01:35:38.640 community for a decision to see what 01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:40.239 our community said that feedback has 01:35:40.319 --> 01:35:41.640 come back to us and it was pretty 01:35:41.720 --> 01:35:43.279 conclusive to what our community thought 01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:45.720 about this particular item despite 01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:47.840 that it appears that we do not have the 01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:49.960 support of the council despite that 01:35:50.039 --> 01:35:51.640 being well supported and during that 01:35:51.720 --> 01:35:54.079 debate one of the things discussed was 01:35:54.159 --> 01:35:55.520 that we would look forward to the 01:35:55.600 --> 01:35:56.800 feedback that we would get for our 01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:58.359 community so that we could make a data 01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:00.000 driven decision on what we would do 01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:02.760 moving forward with this particular item 01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:04.119 it is clear that that is not going to 01:36:04.199 --> 01:36:06.359 be the case that is where I leave that 01:36:06.439 --> 01:36:07.840 particular debate instead what I would 01:36:07.920 --> 01:36:10.159 like to do though is just to acknowledge 01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:11.520 our officers that have worked on this 01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:13.239 report the derit Willam Gathering Place 01:36:13.319 --> 01:36:14.960 all the different rap groups and all the 01:36:15.039 --> 01:36:15.800 different people throughout our 01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:17.640 community of IND and First Nations 01:36:17.720 --> 01:36:19.760 people who have continued to engage with 01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:22.199 Council on this particular item who I am 01:36:22.279 --> 01:36:24.840 sure feeling particularly hurt in the 01:36:24.920 --> 01:36:26.439 last 12 months of all the things that 01:36:26.520 --> 01:36:28.760 are going on in this space but more 01:36:28.840 --> 01:36:30.640 so as we have entered reconciliation 01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:32.239 week and you opened very beautifully 01:36:32.319 --> 01:36:35.199 with a acknowledgement to that event 01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:36.760 that we held where we had over 300 01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:38.960 people attend this evening so I just 01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:40.640 wanted to acknowledge those groups and 01:36:40.720 --> 01:36:42.359 understand that this is a particular 01:36:42.439 --> 01:36:43.520 difficult item to discuss and a 01:36:43.600 --> 01:36:45.039 particularly difficult thing to raise to 01:36:45.119 --> 01:36:46.960 get to instead what I would like to 01:36:47.039 --> 01:36:48.560 suggest as we do not have the support of 01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:50.680 counselor to move this I wanted to 01:36:50.760 --> 01:36:53.039 suggest the amendment 3 which is that we 01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:55.720 explore the opportunity of partaking in 01:36:55.800 --> 01:36:57.680 a healing ceremony which is not unique 01:36:57.760 --> 01:36:59.960 to what this Council does what this 01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:02.000 Council can do other councils actually 01:37:02.079 --> 01:37:03.880 partake in healing ceremonies who still 01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:05.439 do those citizenship ceremonies and 01:37:05.520 --> 01:37:06.960 other celebrations on Australia day and 01:37:07.039 --> 01:37:09.039 I just wanted to support that and 01:37:09.119 --> 01:37:11.119 look to working and partnering with the 01:37:11.199 --> 01:37:12.840 Der willing Gathering Place so that we 01:37:12.920 --> 01:37:15.560 can do something respectfully I 01:37:15.640 --> 01:37:16.560 understand that there are a difference 01:37:16.640 --> 01:37:18.479 of opinions on what we're going to do 01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:20.239 and I recognize that this is not going 01:37:20.319 --> 01:37:22.000 to be supported this evening so instead 01:37:22.079 --> 01:37:23.960 I'd like to initiate that that process 01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:25.840 of healing of acknowledgement of 01:37:25.920 --> 01:37:27.479 understanding with our indigenous people 01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:29.319 in the city of Kingston and wer who do 01:37:29.399 --> 01:37:30.920 come to the city of Kingston and 01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:32.960 recognize that places like the city of 01:37:33.039 --> 01:37:34.800 Mor Alik and throughout Kingston have 01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:36.920 significant importance to our first 01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:38.760 nation's people and actually hold a lot 01:37:38.840 --> 01:37:41.479 of pain I do also want to acknowledge 01:37:41.560 --> 01:37:43.680 that we were one of the first councilors 01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:45.640 to unanimously endorse the U statement 01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:47.720 from the heart and endorsing that 01:37:47.800 --> 01:37:49.880 statement said that we would we would 01:37:49.960 --> 01:37:51.880 stand with our first nation's people we 01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:53.800 would listen we would listen to truth 01:37:53.880 --> 01:37:56.920 and voice and I I'm hoping that that 01:37:57.000 --> 01:37:57.960 is where we're going to go with this 01:37:58.039 --> 01:38:00.000 particular motion I understand that 01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:02.199 there is a difference to of opinion like 01:38:02.279 --> 01:38:03.800 I said earlier with our community so I'm 01:38:03.880 --> 01:38:05.399 not proposing anything other than for us 01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:07.960 to engage in undertaking a healing 01:38:08.039 --> 01:38:10.600 ceremony with our community thank you 01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:14.520 thank you councilor sa councilor 01:38:15.039 --> 01:38:19.359 Hill yeah thank you mayor JDB look it's 01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:21.119 I've got to say it's with a heavy heart 01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:24.680 to be moving this this evening 01:38:24.760 --> 01:38:27.840 we at the end of the day did have a 01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:30.359 report that came to us in November which 01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:32.760 I think really strongly spoke to the 01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:35.560 reason why we should consider moving 01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:40.439 the date we know that I think it 01:38:40.520 --> 01:38:44.239 was 13 councils last year moved the date 01:38:44.319 --> 01:38:46.640 of their ceremonies meaning that I think 01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:49.560 16 in total of the Victorian councils 01:38:49.640 --> 01:38:52.079 have moved the date in actual fact to 01:38:52.159 --> 01:38:54.840 this point only one Council in Victoria 01:38:54.920 --> 01:38:56.479 to the best of my knowledge has actually 01:38:56.560 --> 01:39:00.920 voted against moving the date of of 01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:02.399 their citizenship 01:39:02.479 --> 01:39:08.119 ceremony so I I think it was you 01:39:08.199 --> 01:39:10.279 know I think it was 01:39:10.359 --> 01:39:12.680 not at all a bad thing that we sent this 01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:15.119 out to community consultation because we 01:39:15.199 --> 01:39:18.199 had we had done significant consultation 01:39:18.279 --> 01:39:20.680 with a strong recommendation we thought 01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:22.279 we'll go and check in with the broader 01:39:22.359 --> 01:39:25.359 community I think all about two of us 01:39:25.439 --> 01:39:27.880 voted in support of committing rate 01:39:27.960 --> 01:39:30.199 payers money to undergoing that 01:39:30.279 --> 01:39:31.359 Community 01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:35.479 consultation I remember councilor 01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:39.439 Cochran spoke to wanting to make 01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:42.840 evidence-based decision on this matter 01:39:42.920 --> 01:39:45.359 which is why we sent it to 01:39:45.439 --> 01:39:47.319 consultation and 01:39:47.399 --> 01:39:50.039 you know we do have the findings of 01:39:50.119 --> 01:39:51.760 that Community consultation I know there 01:39:51.840 --> 01:39:54.279 can be some 01:39:54.359 --> 01:39:56.560 conjecture over the the level of 01:39:56.640 --> 01:39:58.359 feedback that we received through that 01:39:58.439 --> 01:40:01.119 consultation I know how well promoted 01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:03.640 that consultation was I think our 01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:06.000 team did an amazing job I was at 01:40:06.079 --> 01:40:08.800 multiple committee meetings where the 01:40:08.880 --> 01:40:12.680 postcards were handed around so it 01:40:12.760 --> 01:40:15.439 wasn't through lack of a really 01:40:15.520 --> 01:40:20.560 concerted effort to get as broad a a 01:40:20.640 --> 01:40:24.039 range of feedback on on the matter 01:40:24.119 --> 01:40:26.960 that we could possibly get as we know 01:40:27.039 --> 01:40:29.720 I think we had 132 responses now one 01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:31.199 thing that says to me is that this 01:40:31.279 --> 01:40:33.079 probably isn't anywhere near as 01:40:33.159 --> 01:40:35.399 important to a lot of people in our 01:40:35.479 --> 01:40:38.279 community as as maybe we fear you know 01:40:38.359 --> 01:40:40.319 it's not as contentious a matter as what 01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:42.920 what we may be thought we could have 01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.399 had far greater take up but we had 01:40:45.479 --> 01:40:49.920 132 but even saying that 132 is you 01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:52.479 know you we've got reports in front of 01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:53.880 us tonight 01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:56.159 that I'm imagining May well be 01:40:56.239 --> 01:40:59.079 supported you know where we've had 19 18 01:40:59.159 --> 01:41:01.560 people respond to community consultation 01:41:01.640 --> 01:41:04.399 so you know 132 isn't insignificant 01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:07.279 either but look I think the path that 01:41:07.359 --> 01:41:09.880 we're going down here is more to 01:41:09.960 --> 01:41:13.319 acknowledge the the mood in the room 01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:15.319 we don't want to put our first Nations 01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:17.399 people through any more harm than we 01:41:17.479 --> 01:41:20.800 than we you know absolutely have to and 01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:24.000 I think it's just a a really good way 01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:26.239 we did hold a healing event if I can 01:41:26.319 --> 01:41:27.760 just ask for an extension thank you 01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:28.960 thank you I'll gr you a two-minute 01:41:29.039 --> 01:41:31.000 extension through the chair we did hold 01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:33.279 a healing event after the voice 01:41:33.359 --> 01:41:36.279 referend which was a really moving 01:41:36.359 --> 01:41:37.680 event that a number of us were able to 01:41:37.760 --> 01:41:40.720 attend last year and I think to do 01:41:40.800 --> 01:41:43.600 something similar is a really 01:41:43.680 --> 01:41:47.199 thoughtful respectful addition to to 01:41:47.279 --> 01:41:50.359 what's being proposed and yeah I do 01:41:50.439 --> 01:41:51.800 very much hope that we have the support 01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:53.640 of our fellow counselors at at least on 01:41:53.720 --> 01:41:56.159 this thank you thank you very much 01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:58.640 councilor 01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:02.199 Hill councilor 01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:05.439 how thank you and let's not forget that 01:42:05.520 --> 01:42:09.239 we are a Suburban Council and if you do 01:42:09.319 --> 01:42:11.520 read into the body of this report we are 01:42:11.600 --> 01:42:13.960 getting very very very deep into a 01:42:14.039 --> 01:42:17.359 federal issue and this report conflates 01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:19.960 Federal politics including changing the 01:42:20.039 --> 01:42:23.640 Federal Constitution The Voice with a 01:42:23.720 --> 01:42:26.439 simple matter where someone should be 01:42:26.520 --> 01:42:29.319 entitled to get their citizenship 01:42:29.399 --> 01:42:32.039 certificate on the national holiday they 01:42:32.119 --> 01:42:33.520 should have that freedom and they should 01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:36.560 have that choice that is what the 01:42:36.640 --> 01:42:39.920 original discussion points were now 01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:42.680 what's proposed number three just so 01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:45.039 everyone's very clear is to in 01:42:45.119 --> 01:42:46.560 conjunction with the citizenship 01:42:46.640 --> 01:42:49.279 ceremony on our national holiday which 01:42:49.359 --> 01:42:52.199 is not changing as it's proposed to hold 01:42:52.279 --> 01:42:53.560 some form 01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:54.359 of 01:42:54.439 --> 01:42:56.640 healing I don't know what that healing 01:42:56.720 --> 01:42:58.600 is if we can get a question put to the 01:42:58.680 --> 01:43:00.880 relevant general manager is this healing 01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:03.760 some form of public mourning what is it 01:43:03.840 --> 01:43:06.199 exactly can I please get an answer thank 01:43:06.279 --> 01:43:08.840 you thank you councilor how I'll ask you 01:43:08.920 --> 01:43:11.239 a question relevant officer and remind 01:43:11.319 --> 01:43:12.760 those in the gallery that you are here 01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:15.319 in Observatory Capac only please refrain 01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:18.760 from further interjection in our 01:43:18.840 --> 01:43:21.600 meeting through the mayor that 01:43:21.680 --> 01:43:23.840 request did not come from this team that 01:43:23.920 --> 01:43:25.560 request was raised through councilors 01:43:25.640 --> 01:43:28.600 this evening thank 01:43:29.640 --> 01:43:31.319 you no 01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:34.359 problem as I'm unclear of of what it is 01:43:34.439 --> 01:43:36.720 that it's actually proposed there's been 01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:39.760 no consultation of the entire Community 01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:41.800 per household as was stated in the 01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:43.880 original motion that would mean actually 01:43:43.960 --> 01:43:45.840 going out Consulting with everyone given 01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:48.439 each and every single household a chance 01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:51.680 to have a say on this proposal how would 01:43:51.760 --> 01:43:54.520 I be able to support for this if it's 01:43:54.600 --> 01:43:58.399 not clear and secondly we have some 01:43:58.479 --> 01:44:01.479 great Aboriginal leaders in this country 01:44:01.560 --> 01:44:04.159 just 01:44:04.239 --> 01:44:07.520 price just price we heard us speak about 01:44:07.600 --> 01:44:10.039 division is this 01:44:10.119 --> 01:44:14.000 divisive it's a question is it 01:44:14.439 --> 01:44:17.319 divisive that's how everyone needs Mad 01:44:17.399 --> 01:44:20.720 May on irrelevance to the issue that 01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:22.039 is being debated we're discussing 01:44:22.119 --> 01:44:23.479 particular motion that's on screen 01:44:23.560 --> 01:44:26.239 that's 37.2 point3 point of order to 01:44:26.319 --> 01:44:27.760 irrelevance and that he should keep 01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:29.720 debate to relevant to the item that we 01:44:29.800 --> 01:44:30.960 are 01:44:31.039 --> 01:44:33.439 discussing thank you I rule for that 01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:35.479 point of order councilor how please 01:44:35.560 --> 01:44:37.119 refrain from commenting on matters 01:44:37.199 --> 01:44:39.079 outside of what is in front of you on 01:44:39.159 --> 01:44:39.880 the 01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:42.479 screen the report refers to Federal 01:44:42.560 --> 01:44:44.520 politics so we've mentioned a federal 01:44:44.600 --> 01:44:46.760 politician anyway I won't mention her 01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:48.960 name because no one liked that comment 01:44:49.039 --> 01:44:51.520 about that particular leader in our 01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:54.840 federal Parliament but really being 01:44:54.920 --> 01:44:57.239 Australian is about personal choice it's 01:44:57.319 --> 01:44:59.119 about having freedom freedom to practice 01:44:59.199 --> 01:45:01.479 of religion freedom to go out there and 01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:05.159 express yourself and what we've got here 01:45:05.239 --> 01:45:08.000 does debark from the original point 01:45:08.079 --> 01:45:10.560 about actually moving entirely away from 01:45:10.640 --> 01:45:14.520 a citizenship ceremony on Australia day 01:45:14.600 --> 01:45:15.960 but then wrapped into that we've got 01:45:16.039 --> 01:45:17.520 another Point that's not clear and it 01:45:17.600 --> 01:45:19.399 cannot be articulated or explained to me 01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:21.399 tonight I'll conclude my remarks there 01:45:21.479 --> 01:45:24.119 thank you for listening 01:45:24.199 --> 01:45:26.560 thank you councelor Hal Council 01:45:26.640 --> 01:45:29.880 Oxley just a question through you I'm 01:45:29.960 --> 01:45:32.479 not sure who might be able to address it 01:45:32.560 --> 01:45:34.960 and that is just in Reading point 01:45:35.039 --> 01:45:37.239 three to me it's not actually entirely 01:45:37.319 --> 01:45:40.600 clear on what day a citizenship ceremony 01:45:40.680 --> 01:45:44.119 would be held because the two points of 01:45:44.199 --> 01:45:46.239 a healing ceremony and citizenship 01:45:46.319 --> 01:45:49.560 ceremony are in the one point which say 01:45:49.640 --> 01:45:52.319 on or around the 26th of January or 01:45:52.399 --> 01:45:53.479 otherwise 01:45:53.560 --> 01:45:55.600 so I'd just like some clarification on 01:45:55.680 --> 01:45:57.920 that thank you Council oxy I believe 01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:00.319 Peter through you mayor to council oxy 01:46:00.399 --> 01:46:02.239 we discussed this before the meeting 01:46:02.319 --> 01:46:04.039 when this was created on the Fly and we 01:46:04.119 --> 01:46:07.199 said there's it's not entirely clear as 01:46:07.279 --> 01:46:09.560 to the fact that the citizenship 01:46:09.640 --> 01:46:11.920 would proceed on the 26 of January 01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:13.079 however I said there was clarification 01:46:13.159 --> 01:46:14.960 to say that it would happen on or around 01:46:15.039 --> 01:46:16.560 Our intention is that it would happen on 01:46:16.640 --> 01:46:18.960 the day it would be our preference if it 01:46:19.039 --> 01:46:20.920 said that it would be happening on 26 01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:24.000 January 01:46:24.239 --> 01:46:26.039 sorry Council Oxley I do have additional 01:46:26.119 --> 01:46:27.399 advice that I can provide you through 01:46:27.479 --> 01:46:29.479 governance if you 01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:32.319 just thank you so I believe our 01:46:32.399 --> 01:46:34.319 governance officer is demonstrating to 01:46:34.399 --> 01:46:37.159 me our venue and scheduling policy 01:46:37.239 --> 01:46:39.920 which indicates that 2.3 citizenship 01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:41.800 ceremonies will be held on a weekday 01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:44.600 evening in January March June July 01:46:44.680 --> 01:46:47.319 August September October November I 01:46:47.399 --> 01:46:49.920 believe when we then refer to the report 01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:51.560 that has been provided by the offices 01:46:51.640 --> 01:46:53.039 that it was a federal government 01:46:53.119 --> 01:46:57.399 decision in 2019 to mandate the 01:46:57.479 --> 01:46:59.319 delivery of a citizenship ceremony on 01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:02.920 the 26th of January that federal 01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:04.720 government policy has now changed to 01:47:04.800 --> 01:47:06.479 enable local governments to provide that 01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:09.000 citizenship ceremony within 3 days of 01:47:09.079 --> 01:47:11.760 that date so that is the 01:47:11.840 --> 01:47:15.319 clarification that I can provide from 01:47:15.960 --> 01:47:18.199 advice that still doesn't answer my 01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:19.920 question 01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:22.920 sorry when would officers based on this 01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:24.960 motion potentially being passed by 01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:28.359 Council hold the citizenship ceremony 01:47:28.439 --> 01:47:32.079 for January 2025 on the 26th of January 01:47:32.159 --> 01:47:33.640 is what I've just outlined to you based 01:47:33.720 --> 01:47:35.840 on the existing policy that's in place 01:47:35.920 --> 01:47:37.479 that I've been advised by our governance 01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:39.079 officer if you'd like to make any 01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:41.079 amendments you're very welcome 01:47:41.159 --> 01:47:44.000 too Madam may can I just I'll just check 01:47:44.079 --> 01:47:45.399 with Council Oxley first thank you 01:47:45.479 --> 01:47:47.520 Council S one moment counc 01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:50.760 Oxley thank you I'm just not sure 01:47:50.840 --> 01:47:52.359 where it actually says that in the 01:47:52.439 --> 01:47:53.720 motion 01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:56.199 that's what I'm I'm clarifying policies 01:47:56.279 --> 01:47:57.520 can say different things so I'm just 01:47:57.600 --> 01:47:59.479 wondering where it says in the motion 01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:02.439 that that will be held on the 26th given 01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:05.840 that that is what this report is 01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:08.920 about so what I can provide is the 01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:10.520 policies that have been outlined to me 01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:12.439 because I did ask when we have actually 01:48:12.520 --> 01:48:14.880 scheduled the 01:48:14.960 --> 01:48:19.079 dates okay yes that's right and so if we 01:48:19.159 --> 01:48:20.960 could just please remain silent in the 01:48:21.039 --> 01:48:23.279 chamber so Council o I'm not arguing 01:48:23.359 --> 01:48:24.560 with you but I'm just trying to explain 01:48:24.640 --> 01:48:26.600 cuz I did ask that exact question 01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:28.319 because we have those existing policies 01:48:28.399 --> 01:48:30.760 in place it would fall to the 26th of 01:48:30.840 --> 01:48:32.520 January but you're very welcome if you 01:48:32.600 --> 01:48:34.920 don't feel that point three is clear to 01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:36.600 seek to move an amendment to make that 01:48:36.680 --> 01:48:38.239 clearer but from what the advice have 01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:39.800 been given by 01:48:39.880 --> 01:48:41.960 governance sorry the advice I've been 01:48:42.039 --> 01:48:46.159 given by governance is that this 01:48:46.239 --> 01:48:48.920 motion here does not change our existing 01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:50.720 policy which 01:48:50.800 --> 01:48:53.199 indicates that we can host it in January 01:48:53.279 --> 01:48:54.680 and that it would be based on previous 01:48:54.760 --> 01:48:57.159 policy of 2019 that it would be held on 01:48:57.239 --> 01:49:00.600 the 26th of January is that 01:49:08.439 --> 01:49:11.239 clear sure so I'll ask I'll ask again 01:49:11.319 --> 01:49:13.520 for 01:49:16.960 --> 01:49:18.439 advice 01:49:18.520 --> 01:49:22.640 can so the advice by governance is to 01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:23.399 to 01:49:23.479 --> 01:49:26.439 request to you or ask you whether 01:49:26.520 --> 01:49:28.560 you'd like to move an 01:49:28.640 --> 01:49:31.399 amendment can I just clarify can we just 01:49:31.479 --> 01:49:32.920 wait one moment Council sa please I'd 01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:34.600 like to resolve this matter 01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:36.840 satisfactorily not at this point in time 01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:39.119 because what council sa might be saying 01:49:39.199 --> 01:49:41.079 May resolve the matter thank you Council 01:49:41.159 --> 01:49:43.920 Oxley councilor up can I clarify the 01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:46.279 wording within or around 26 of January 01:49:46.359 --> 01:49:48.159 was to provide flexibility to the derit 01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:49.840 will in Gathering Place to be able to 01:49:49.920 --> 01:49:52.720 host a healing ceremony either in con 01:49:52.800 --> 01:49:54.319 Junction with the citizenship ceremony 01:49:54.399 --> 01:49:55.680 so on the day that that is held on the 01:49:55.760 --> 01:49:58.479 26th of January or otherwise if that 01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:00.039 wasn't to be held on the 26th of January 01:50:00.119 --> 01:50:02.279 so around that date that's the intention 01:50:02.359 --> 01:50:05.760 of it so I'll I'll read it out as it I 01:50:05.840 --> 01:50:08.199 think the query from Council Oxley was 01:50:08.279 --> 01:50:11.159 about noting that the report's advice 01:50:11.239 --> 01:50:13.239 was for us to move the citizenship 01:50:13.319 --> 01:50:15.680 ceremony and noting that your amended 01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:18.600 motion removes that recommendation what 01:50:18.680 --> 01:50:20.800 date are we holding the January 01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:23.359 citizenship ceremony on and I was trying 01:50:23.439 --> 01:50:25.720 to provide advice that because we are 01:50:25.800 --> 01:50:27.840 silent in this motion we would revert 01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:29.159 back to the policies that have been 01:50:29.239 --> 01:50:31.560 advised to me by governance if that is 01:50:31.640 --> 01:50:33.279 not to the satisfaction of the council 01:50:33.359 --> 01:50:35.000 is in this chamber I would ask that you 01:50:35.079 --> 01:50:39.079 move an amendment to clarify that thank 01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:48.319 you councilor is there anyone else 01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:52.560 wishing to debate this motion 01:50:53.359 --> 01:50:56.279 councilor thank you thank you Madame 01:50:56.359 --> 01:50:58.880 mayor I think we are probably one of the 01:50:58.960 --> 01:51:03.079 only nation in the freedom world who are 01:51:03.159 --> 01:51:07.439 still debating our national day again 01:51:07.520 --> 01:51:11.720 this is a federal issue pretty clear 01:51:11.800 --> 01:51:13.840 we're not sitting in the federal 01:51:13.920 --> 01:51:15.880 Parliament and trying to change it 01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:18.800 regardless of the outcome of this motion 01:51:18.880 --> 01:51:21.920 26th of January is still the Australian 01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:23.399 day 01:51:23.479 --> 01:51:27.920 if we talk about the citizenship 01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:31.520 ceremonies I don't see any issues to 01:51:31.600 --> 01:51:34.640 have a citizenship ceremony on the 01:51:34.720 --> 01:51:37.119 Australian day because I'm I'm pretty 01:51:37.199 --> 01:51:40.560 sure there's plenty people out there who 01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:43.039 choose to become an Australian citizens 01:51:43.119 --> 01:51:45.000 and they are proud to receiving their 01:51:45.079 --> 01:51:47.439 certificates on the Australian day and 01:51:47.520 --> 01:51:52.960 that is obviously a a value 01:51:53.039 --> 01:51:54.880 option for them to receive that 01:51:54.960 --> 01:51:57.800 certificate on the day if somebody is 01:51:57.880 --> 01:52:00.239 not happy with the 01:52:00.319 --> 01:52:02.720 ceremony on that particular day they can 01:52:02.800 --> 01:52:05.319 choose to attend a ceremony in February 01:52:05.399 --> 01:52:08.239 in May or in December whatever 01:52:08.319 --> 01:52:10.920 there's other ceremonies being held as 01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:13.119 the report is 01:52:13.199 --> 01:52:17.079 outlined but it really seems to me 01:52:17.159 --> 01:52:20.039 we are debating the day rather than the 01:52:20.119 --> 01:52:23.239 ceremony 01:52:23.319 --> 01:52:25.520 thank you Council High just to be 01:52:25.600 --> 01:52:27.399 very clear we're not debating in this 01:52:27.479 --> 01:52:30.399 particular motion here a change of date 01:52:30.479 --> 01:52:33.000 for the citizenship ceremony the 01:52:33.079 --> 01:52:34.960 recommendation by the officers has been 01:52:35.039 --> 01:52:37.520 removed in this alternate motion and 01:52:37.600 --> 01:52:40.279 what is being proposed is instead a 01:52:40.359 --> 01:52:43.600 healing ceremony to simultaneously take 01:52:43.680 --> 01:52:46.119 place at that same 01:52:46.199 --> 01:52:48.359 time councilor is there's much I'm sure 01:52:48.439 --> 01:52:50.560 you're aware that I would like to share 01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:55.520 about this matter but I mindful 01:52:56.039 --> 01:52:58.880 that for many in our community the 01:52:58.960 --> 01:53:00.399 debate and the way in which we've 01:53:00.479 --> 01:53:03.079 entered into this debate 01:53:03.159 --> 01:53:07.680 causes harm and I don't wish to continue 01:53:07.760 --> 01:53:10.600 contributing to that 01:53:10.680 --> 01:53:12.920 harm I think we had an opportunity 01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:15.520 tonight to recognize a few things we've 01:53:15.600 --> 01:53:19.560 we've talked about a federally mandated 01:53:19.640 --> 01:53:22.960 policy we are the delegated author we've 01:53:23.039 --> 01:53:24.800 been provided that Authority move that 01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:26.439 date by the federal 01:53:26.520 --> 01:53:30.039 government we've chosen to not if we 01:53:30.119 --> 01:53:31.880 approve this 01:53:31.960 --> 01:53:33.960 motion move forward with that 01:53:34.039 --> 01:53:36.479 opportunity we've talked a lot about 01:53:36.560 --> 01:53:38.920 identity and I think we had an 01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:41.000 opportunity really to demonstrate great 01:53:41.079 --> 01:53:43.399 leadership for our community to navigate 01:53:43.479 --> 01:53:45.479 what is an increasingly difficult 01:53:45.560 --> 01:53:47.119 conversation for us to have and I think 01:53:47.199 --> 01:53:50.119 it's a really important 01:53:51.439 --> 01:53:55.319 one I work in Aboriginal health and I 01:53:55.399 --> 01:53:58.800 witness the daily lived experience of my 01:53:58.880 --> 01:54:01.279 colleagues whose family 01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:04.800 members are lost to Suicide who are lost 01:54:04.880 --> 01:54:09.199 to the justice system I live with the 01:54:09.279 --> 01:54:12.800 lived experience of traatized children 01:54:12.880 --> 01:54:14.800 entering my home as foster 01:54:14.880 --> 01:54:17.960 children and for me it really is a great 01:54:18.039 --> 01:54:20.000 shame that we haven't been able to come 01:54:20.079 --> 01:54:21.560 to a closer resolution and that the 01:54:21.640 --> 01:54:23.000 debate has 01:54:23.079 --> 01:54:24.680 gone the way it has given what I really 01:54:24.760 --> 01:54:26.840 think here is tonight an 01:54:26.920 --> 01:54:29.119 option to try and find some Middle 01:54:29.199 --> 01:54:31.119 Ground to recognize that there are some 01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:33.000 in the room who want to 01:54:33.079 --> 01:54:36.079 maintain the 30y old celebration of the 01:54:36.159 --> 01:54:37.920 26th of January's Australia Day which 01:54:38.000 --> 01:54:41.960 began in 1994 nationally and 1938 a day 01:54:42.039 --> 01:54:44.560 of morning for original people but to 01:54:44.640 --> 01:54:45.960 also 01:54:46.039 --> 01:54:48.560 recognize that for some it is not a day 01:54:48.640 --> 01:54:50.520 to celebrate and that for some 01:54:50.600 --> 01:54:52.560 celebrating the citizenship ceremony on 01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:55.079 that day as we saw in the survey was not 01:54:55.159 --> 01:54:57.960 something they chose to 01:54:58.560 --> 01:55:01.000 celebrate councilor Sab ask you if you'd 01:55:01.079 --> 01:55:03.560 like to close the debate thank you 01:55:03.640 --> 01:55:05.720 Madame May and thank you for those words 01:55:05.800 --> 01:55:08.279 I'll just briefly mention being one of 01:55:08.359 --> 01:55:10.359 the five counselors in this who have 01:55:10.439 --> 01:55:12.359 attended citizens ceremonies in this 01:55:12.439 --> 01:55:15.239 term I recognize having spoken to a lot 01:55:15.319 --> 01:55:16.600 of the citizens that what of the things 01:55:16.680 --> 01:55:18.399 that they've asked for isn't about when 01:55:18.479 --> 01:55:20.279 they particularly get to you know get 01:55:20.359 --> 01:55:21.640 their citizenship it's actually they 01:55:21.720 --> 01:55:22.560 just want to be able to to get their 01:55:22.640 --> 01:55:24.319 citizenship as soon as possible that's 01:55:24.399 --> 01:55:25.520 the feedback that's come through from 01:55:25.600 --> 01:55:26.880 the consultation that's the feedback 01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:28.439 that we've heard from all of the 01:55:28.520 --> 01:55:29.800 residents that we've spoken to who have 01:55:29.880 --> 01:55:32.000 attended citizenship ceremonies it isn't 01:55:32.079 --> 01:55:34.319 not so much about that in fact from most 01:55:34.399 --> 01:55:35.680 of the citizens who attended that we 01:55:35.760 --> 01:55:37.680 spoke to some of those were actually 01:55:37.760 --> 01:55:38.920 upset about holding it on that 01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:40.359 particular day that's the feedback that 01:55:40.439 --> 01:55:42.000 we heard I do find it really 01:55:42.079 --> 01:55:44.399 disheartening actually and I and I do 01:55:44.479 --> 01:55:45.720 recognize the words you said about not 01:55:45.800 --> 01:55:47.159 wanting to add to the her or add to the 01:55:47.239 --> 01:55:48.680 debate but I just feel like that needs 01:55:48.760 --> 01:55:50.600 to be mentioned and it also needs to be 01:55:50.680 --> 01:55:51.720 mentioned that there was discussion 01:55:51.800 --> 01:55:53.039 about conf inflating these matters 01:55:53.119 --> 01:55:54.399 there's nothing being conflated about 01:55:54.479 --> 01:55:55.479 this particular matter we're talking 01:55:55.560 --> 01:55:57.479 about a healing ceremony the only people 01:55:57.560 --> 01:55:58.680 who are conflating this matter are the 01:55:58.760 --> 01:55:59.880 ones who want to try to muddy what we're 01:55:59.960 --> 01:56:02.119 trying to do and discuss it with more 01:56:02.199 --> 01:56:03.800 broader fredal issues that's what's 01:56:03.880 --> 01:56:05.800 being conflated not what's being moved 01:56:05.880 --> 01:56:07.640 not what we're discussing tonight so the 01:56:07.720 --> 01:56:09.000 conflation is 01:56:09.079 --> 01:56:12.079 totally it's totally wrong in addition 01:56:12.159 --> 01:56:13.800 to that we were talking about the irony 01:56:13.880 --> 01:56:15.439 of not being this being consulted with 01:56:15.520 --> 01:56:17.640 the community the irony in that is that 01:56:17.720 --> 01:56:19.640 there's counselors here who have moved 01:56:19.720 --> 01:56:21.760 motions or moved amendments or moved 01:56:21.840 --> 01:56:23.920 things that are much broader much more 01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:26.159 impactful that have cost us thousands 01:56:26.239 --> 01:56:28.479 millions you know of dollars this 01:56:28.560 --> 01:56:30.319 Council in in in multiple budgets over 01:56:30.399 --> 01:56:33.199 the past four years without consulting 01:56:33.279 --> 01:56:34.920 the community when in fact we have 01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:36.520 consulted with the community but because 01:56:36.600 --> 01:56:37.840 we're not happy with results that's 01:56:37.920 --> 01:56:39.600 where we've landed and I don't want to 01:56:39.680 --> 01:56:41.960 add further to debate I I recognize that 01:56:42.039 --> 01:56:44.039 but I do think if anyone has the ability 01:56:44.119 --> 01:56:46.199 to or the heart to I really do encourage 01:56:46.279 --> 01:56:48.399 you to go to a healing ceremony it is 01:56:48.479 --> 01:56:49.840 really touching it is really moving you 01:56:49.920 --> 01:56:51.319 open and you go in there with an open 01:56:51.399 --> 01:56:53.319 mind you recognize that it isn't 01:56:53.399 --> 01:56:56.159 anything other than trying to understand 01:56:56.239 --> 01:56:57.439 each other understand the presence of 01:56:57.520 --> 01:56:58.800 the room understand the presence of the 01:56:58.880 --> 01:57:00.399 people who want to participate in that 01:57:00.479 --> 01:57:02.159 and share culture and that is a really 01:57:02.239 --> 01:57:03.760 special thing that's what we're calling 01:57:03.840 --> 01:57:06.520 for and the more eyes that people can 01:57:06.600 --> 01:57:07.920 get onto this the more people that can 01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:09.640 engage in this process they'll 01:57:09.720 --> 01:57:11.439 understand and feel in that Unity with 01:57:11.520 --> 01:57:13.479 our first nation's people and I do think 01:57:13.560 --> 01:57:14.920 that's what we should be doing thank you 01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:16.560 councelor sa will put this item to the 01:57:16.640 --> 01:57:18.960 vote all those in 01:57:19.039 --> 01:57:22.439 favor all those against 01:57:22.520 --> 01:57:24.640 all those 01:57:24.720 --> 01:57:28.640 abstaining I declare this 01:57:31.960 --> 01:57:34.199 lost I'm 01:57:34.279 --> 01:57:38.600 sorry what's advice you can provide to 01:57:45.279 --> 01:57:47.279 us no we don't need to call the vote 01:57:47.359 --> 01:57:50.560 again sorry 01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:56.600 okay thank you councel Oxley so we have 01:57:56.680 --> 01:57:57.920 those who are 01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:01.640 for please raise your 01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:13.359 hand those who are voting against please 01:58:13.439 --> 01:58:15.800 raise your 01:58:20.840 --> 01:58:23.239 hand and for abstaining please raise 01:58:23.319 --> 01:58:25.479 your 01:58:35.600 --> 01:58:38.359 hand again I declare that that has been 01:58:38.439 --> 01:58:40.439 lost now the question that was just 01:58:40.520 --> 01:58:42.760 asked of Me by the governance officer is 01:58:42.840 --> 01:58:46.600 whether or not a motion is required 01:58:46.680 --> 01:58:49.039 I'll just need to consult with 01:58:49.119 --> 01:58:50.159 governance because I haven't been 01:58:50.239 --> 01:58:52.079 provided with advice prior to right now 01:58:52.159 --> 01:58:55.399 now so M shlock are you suggesting we 01:58:55.479 --> 01:58:57.840 require a motion to confirm the dates 01:58:57.920 --> 01:58:59.479 for the citizenship ceremonies next year 01:58:59.560 --> 01:59:02.239 if you could just be clear that would be 01:59:02.319 --> 01:59:06.760 great what do we require 01:59:25.600 --> 01:59:27.439 all right so thank you governance has 01:59:27.520 --> 01:59:29.159 asked me to address this question that 01:59:29.239 --> 01:59:31.039 has been put to be by by Miss shacklock 01:59:31.119 --> 01:59:32.479 about whether a further motion is 01:59:32.560 --> 01:59:34.600 required if you could please provide a 01:59:34.680 --> 01:59:37.279 response that would be great thank 01:59:37.359 --> 01:59:39.920 you thank you through the mayor the 01:59:40.000 --> 01:59:42.359 policy does not list dates the policy 01:59:42.439 --> 01:59:45.119 lists that what council's role is in 01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:47.199 ensuring that the citizenship ceremonies 01:59:47.279 --> 01:59:51.439 go ahead per per the requirements 01:59:51.520 --> 01:59:54.760 that does at the moment our process 01:59:54.840 --> 01:59:56.920 is to hold citizenship ceremonies every 01:59:57.000 --> 01:59:59.960 third Thursday if possible of the month 02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:02.760 the dates are not included they are Set 02:00:02.840 --> 02:00:05.079 in line with the council or the mayor 02:00:05.159 --> 02:00:07.439 of the 02:00:10.399 --> 02:00:14.000 day y so thank you councilors I 02:00:14.079 --> 02:00:15.880 appreciate the challenges that we're 02:00:15.960 --> 02:00:18.159 all facing right now and just working 02:00:18.239 --> 02:00:20.880 through this so I appreciate your 02:00:20.960 --> 02:00:23.680 patience so governance are you 02:00:23.760 --> 02:00:26.479 requesting that we pass that we put 02:00:26.560 --> 02:00:29.600 forward a motion is that what is being 02:00:29.680 --> 02:00:33.159 advised through you mayor Davy Burns 02:00:33.239 --> 02:00:35.000 from a governance 02:00:35.079 --> 02:00:37.359 perspective as our general manager 02:00:37.439 --> 02:00:39.680 has just explained the current Council 02:00:39.760 --> 02:00:41.840 position is that we do hold citizenship 02:00:41.920 --> 02:00:45.039 ceremonies and they do occur in January 02:00:45.119 --> 02:00:48.000 we are silent on the dates that it is 02:00:48.079 --> 02:00:51.439 held for January if council is am 02:00:51.520 --> 02:00:53.880 minded to have a motion that makes it 02:00:53.960 --> 02:00:56.039 very clear for offers to implement my 02:00:56.119 --> 02:00:58.439 recommendation would be that a motion be 02:00:58.520 --> 02:01:00.399 moved tonight to arrive a council 02:01:00.479 --> 02:01:03.479 position in the absence of of a 02:01:03.560 --> 02:01:06.159 resolution as our general manager has 02:01:06.239 --> 02:01:08.159 just explained we would revert to our 02:01:08.239 --> 02:01:11.399 current practices which has been to hold 02:01:11.479 --> 02:01:15.399 their ceremony on 26th of January thank 02:01:15.479 --> 02:01:17.880 you m councelor Davies can I can I just 02:01:17.960 --> 02:01:20.079 clarify this because I'm actually really 02:01:20.159 --> 02:01:23.920 concerned now so we have had two notices 02:01:24.000 --> 02:01:26.359 of motion talking about the fact that we 02:01:26.439 --> 02:01:29.159 always hold it on 26 January and now 02:01:29.239 --> 02:01:30.319 we've had a statement from our general 02:01:30.399 --> 02:01:32.720 manager that the council is not bound by 02:01:32.800 --> 02:01:35.359 that so and they're expecting a motion 02:01:35.439 --> 02:01:37.560 that actually says 26 January have I 02:01:37.640 --> 02:01:40.039 misunderstood that because yes I'm very 02:01:40.119 --> 02:01:41.680 concerned no I can appreciate that 02:01:41.760 --> 02:01:43.760 concern and Council as I do recognize 02:01:43.840 --> 02:01:45.359 that there's new information that has 02:01:45.439 --> 02:01:47.479 emerged and I let's just take it step by 02:01:47.560 --> 02:01:50.239 step we'll work through this it's a it's 02:01:50.319 --> 02:01:53.079 a challenging governance matter so let's 02:01:53.159 --> 02:01:56.920 try and recap so we have a citizenship 02:01:57.000 --> 02:01:58.399 policy that you've shown me which 02:01:58.479 --> 02:02:00.880 demonstrates the months which we need 02:02:00.960 --> 02:02:01.960 to hold that in could you please 02:02:02.039 --> 02:02:03.760 circulate that to counselors so they all 02:02:03.840 --> 02:02:04.960 have a 02:02:05.039 --> 02:02:08.319 copy just just one clarifying Point sure 02:02:08.399 --> 02:02:10.039 if that's the policy why are we here on 02:02:10.119 --> 02:02:11.279 this 02:02:11.359 --> 02:02:13.680 motion I might ask that question through 02:02:13.760 --> 02:02:15.600 to the relevant GM if we could please 02:02:15.680 --> 02:02:18.520 have a response thank 02:02:18.600 --> 02:02:22.319 you so I'm trying to 02:02:22.399 --> 02:02:23.880 go through the history this was brought 02:02:23.960 --> 02:02:26.760 to council to consider if they would 02:02:26.840 --> 02:02:28.960 like to continue to hold ceremony on the 02:02:29.039 --> 02:02:31.800 26th of January once the federal 02:02:31.880 --> 02:02:33.720 government changed what is possible for 02:02:33.800 --> 02:02:35.960 local government at the time that was 02:02:36.039 --> 02:02:37.880 announced multiple local governments 02:02:37.960 --> 02:02:41.239 decided to move from January 26th to 3 02:02:41.319 --> 02:02:43.600 days either side this was brought to 02:02:43.680 --> 02:02:46.359 this Council to consider that when that 02:02:46.439 --> 02:02:48.199 was brought to council we were requested 02:02:48.279 --> 02:02:50.920 to go out to the community for 02:02:51.000 --> 02:02:52.640 consultation on what the community 02:02:52.720 --> 02:02:54.520 thought and that is what has being 02:02:54.600 --> 02:02:56.960 presented to council was to consider 02:02:57.039 --> 02:02:59.239 whether they would like to move it 02:02:59.319 --> 02:03:02.600 either side of January 02:03:03.279 --> 02:03:06.479 26 yes so it is a bit it is a bit 02:03:06.560 --> 02:03:08.000 difficult and I appreciate Council oy 02:03:08.079 --> 02:03:09.359 was trying to get to that point earlier 02:03:09.439 --> 02:03:11.239 so I'll I'll try one more time and then 02:03:11.319 --> 02:03:12.560 I'm going to suggest that perhaps just 02:03:12.640 --> 02:03:15.640 for clarity we look to move a motion 02:03:15.720 --> 02:03:17.760 to clarify the date for the January 02:03:17.840 --> 02:03:21.439 26 citizenship ceremony my my 02:03:21.520 --> 02:03:25.760 understanding is that what's that 02:03:25.840 --> 02:03:28.560 sorry January 26th that's okay no 02:03:28.640 --> 02:03:31.239 problems January 26 of the 26th of 02:03:31.319 --> 02:03:33.439 January that day not not the year that's 02:03:33.520 --> 02:03:36.199 2025 so councilors my understanding is 02:03:36.279 --> 02:03:39.000 we have a policy about the months that 02:03:39.079 --> 02:03:41.920 we must hold citizenship ceremonies in 02:03:42.000 --> 02:03:44.239 we have a previous motion by this 02:03:44.319 --> 02:03:48.520 Council following the mandating 02:03:48.600 --> 02:03:50.960 of the citizenship ceremony being held 02:03:51.039 --> 02:03:54.920 on the 26 of January because of the 02:03:55.000 --> 02:03:56.920 rule in place by the federal government 02:03:57.000 --> 02:03:58.279 at the 02:03:58.359 --> 02:04:01.079 time that government has now changed and 02:04:01.159 --> 02:04:04.000 that policy has now changed hence our 02:04:04.079 --> 02:04:06.720 officers brought forward a report to us 02:04:06.800 --> 02:04:09.640 suggesting that we could move the could 02:04:09.720 --> 02:04:13.319 I please just finish councilor Z thank 02:04:13.399 --> 02:04:16.000 you the officers brought forward a 02:04:16.079 --> 02:04:18.560 report which our general manager has 02:04:18.640 --> 02:04:21.439 just outlined seeking our approval in 02:04:21.520 --> 02:04:22.479 line line with the new federal 02:04:22.560 --> 02:04:25.079 government policy to change the date of 02:04:25.159 --> 02:04:27.000 the citizenship ceremony from the 26th 02:04:27.079 --> 02:04:30.039 of January we removed that from the 02:04:30.119 --> 02:04:31.279 alternate 02:04:31.359 --> 02:04:34.399 motion and was silent on the date and so 02:04:34.479 --> 02:04:37.399 I think governance are advising us that 02:04:37.479 --> 02:04:40.239 it would be best to clarify that through 02:04:40.319 --> 02:04:43.079 a motion of this Council this was 02:04:43.159 --> 02:04:45.119 advice that I don't believe we've 02:04:45.199 --> 02:04:46.720 discussed as a group so I really 02:04:46.800 --> 02:04:48.239 appreciate that this is a bit 02:04:48.319 --> 02:04:50.279 challenging to have just considered a 02:04:50.359 --> 02:04:53.760 motion and then be given advice so I I 02:04:53.840 --> 02:04:56.680 do sincerely apologize for that advice 02:04:56.760 --> 02:04:58.760 not being available earlier but we we 02:04:58.840 --> 02:05:01.119 are where we are I I've seen you 02:05:01.199 --> 02:05:03.439 counselor sa and I will get to 02:05:03.520 --> 02:05:07.079 you this is where we are 02:05:07.159 --> 02:05:09.399 so that's the advice from our governance 02:05:09.479 --> 02:05:11.159 team it's always a good idea to follow 02:05:11.239 --> 02:05:13.760 good governance it seems like there is a 02:05:13.840 --> 02:05:16.199 consensus in the room about the 02:05:16.279 --> 02:05:18.439 citizenship ceremony being on the 26th 02:05:18.520 --> 02:05:20.840 of January so would a council like to 02:05:20.920 --> 02:05:24.279 propose that as a motion this 02:05:24.359 --> 02:05:27.560 evening thank you councelor Davies I 02:05:27.640 --> 02:05:29.640 mean and second to councelor no sorry 02:05:29.720 --> 02:05:31.520 coun sorry Madame mayor I stood up 02:05:31.600 --> 02:05:32.680 because I was going to move in an 02:05:32.760 --> 02:05:34.760 alternative motion why I was trying to 02:05:34.840 --> 02:05:36.319 stand up but I allowed you to finish 02:05:36.399 --> 02:05:39.760 before you moved you allow me to 02:05:43.920 --> 02:05:47.039 finish Council s if you'd like to just 02:05:47.119 --> 02:05:48.560 take a seat we'll try and work through 02:05:48.640 --> 02:05:51.640 this 02:05:53.439 --> 02:05:54.479 yeah because we've already moved and 02:05:54.560 --> 02:05:57.479 seconded it I really appreciate that I 02:05:57.560 --> 02:05:59.920 can show you just if you're able to just 02:06:00.000 --> 02:06:02.119 take a moment let's consider this motion 02:06:02.199 --> 02:06:04.079 you're welcome to move 02:06:04.159 --> 02:06:06.319 amendments okay so let's debate the 02:06:06.399 --> 02:06:09.039 motion that so let's work a motion off 02:06:09.119 --> 02:06:12.359 onto the screen I was simply going to 02:06:12.439 --> 02:06:14.199 move a motion given everything that's 02:06:14.279 --> 02:06:16.600 happened tonight that says that the 02:06:16.680 --> 02:06:22.039 January citizenship ceremony is held on 02:06:22.119 --> 02:06:23.920 the Australia Day public holiday the 02:06:24.000 --> 02:06:27.079 gazetted Australia Day public 02:06:27.159 --> 02:06:29.600 holiday well 26 January let's just say 02:06:29.680 --> 02:06:31.560 26th January he's held on 26th January 02:06:31.640 --> 02:06:34.079 so there's no 02:06:44.079 --> 02:06:46.239 confusion thank you councel Davies 02:06:46.319 --> 02:06:48.800 councelor H do you agree to the motion 02:06:48.880 --> 02:06:50.000 all right councelor Davies would you 02:06:50.079 --> 02:06:53.520 like to speak to your motion 02:06:54.840 --> 02:06:56.079 did you want to move any amendments 02:06:56.159 --> 02:06:59.640 Council s before we speak to the 02:06:59.720 --> 02:07:02.039 motion I I think that there's been a lot 02:07:02.119 --> 02:07:04.119 of discussion tonight in relation to 02:07:04.199 --> 02:07:06.800 this issue and I'm very conscious of the 02:07:06.880 --> 02:07:10.079 fact that the austral day has 02:07:10.159 --> 02:07:12.119 different meanings for different people 02:07:12.199 --> 02:07:13.640 and I actually spent some time looking 02:07:13.720 --> 02:07:16.319 up 26th January to just get a bit of 02:07:16.399 --> 02:07:17.640 understanding of the background and I 02:07:17.720 --> 02:07:21.479 can see that New South Wales actually 02:07:21.560 --> 02:07:23.640 used to call it Foundation day and 02:07:23.720 --> 02:07:25.720 anniversary day and they called it that 02:07:25.800 --> 02:07:28.720 from about 1790 to 02:07:28.800 --> 02:07:31.119 1888 and all the other states had 02:07:31.199 --> 02:07:33.079 different days and there was a bit of an 02:07:33.159 --> 02:07:35.640 argent over which day we were going to 02:07:35.720 --> 02:07:38.920 celebrate us becoming Australians as 02:07:39.000 --> 02:07:41.159 opposed to and I recognize that some 02:07:41.239 --> 02:07:43.039 people have a different view as to what 02:07:43.119 --> 02:07:46.680 26 January stands for it was probably in 02:07:46.760 --> 02:07:48.920 the first world war period that there 02:07:49.000 --> 02:07:52.000 was a bit of change on a July date 02:07:52.079 --> 02:07:54.720 but consistently it has been 26th 02:07:54.800 --> 02:07:58.960 January and I view Australia day as I'm 02:07:59.039 --> 02:08:00.960 actually very very happy and proud to be 02:08:01.039 --> 02:08:03.359 an Australian Citizen and I actually 02:08:03.439 --> 02:08:05.439 think when you recognize and celebrate 02:08:05.520 --> 02:08:07.560 being an Australian citizen you can also 02:08:07.640 --> 02:08:09.880 recognize your history you don't have to 02:08:09.960 --> 02:08:13.119 deny your history and you can have a day 02:08:13.199 --> 02:08:14.640 where you recognize that some really 02:08:14.720 --> 02:08:16.520 horrible things happen to a sector of 02:08:16.600 --> 02:08:18.760 our community but let's all look at 02:08:18.840 --> 02:08:20.920 moving forward and recognizing what are 02:08:21.000 --> 02:08:23.159 absolutely brilliant country this is to 02:08:23.239 --> 02:08:24.840 live in particularly when you look at 02:08:24.920 --> 02:08:27.560 what's happening around the world you 02:08:27.640 --> 02:08:30.000 know we are an amazing country we 02:08:30.079 --> 02:08:31.680 absolutely do not do everything right 02:08:31.760 --> 02:08:33.399 for all of our citizens and we should 02:08:33.479 --> 02:08:37.680 work on that but let's recognize this is 02:08:37.760 --> 02:08:40.920 currently the federal public holiday 02:08:41.000 --> 02:08:42.800 frust stray liberal and labor 02:08:42.880 --> 02:08:43.840 governments have both have an 02:08:43.920 --> 02:08:45.119 opportunity to change it and they 02:08:45.199 --> 02:08:47.720 haven't this is the day and as long as 02:08:47.800 --> 02:08:49.479 it's Australia day I will celebrate 02:08:49.560 --> 02:08:51.880 being an Australian and like coun 02:08:51.960 --> 02:08:53.239 mentioned I'm sure there's lots of 02:08:53.319 --> 02:08:55.119 citizens who would like to well 02:08:55.199 --> 02:08:56.920 potential citizens who would like to 02:08:57.000 --> 02:08:58.880 become citizens on this day and they're 02:08:58.960 --> 02:09:00.920 welcome to and if they don't want to 02:09:01.000 --> 02:09:03.479 they can nominate another day so I do 02:09:03.560 --> 02:09:05.159 put it forward that we should 02:09:05.239 --> 02:09:07.319 acknowledge that we are a great country 02:09:07.399 --> 02:09:09.239 while still recognizing there are 02:09:09.319 --> 02:09:12.760 problems with this country thank 02:09:15.000 --> 02:09:17.279 you sorry thank you councelor Davies 02:09:17.359 --> 02:09:19.479 councelor 02:09:19.560 --> 02:09:23.359 h i reserve for 02:09:25.600 --> 02:09:26.920 there any other councilors wishing to 02:09:27.000 --> 02:09:29.039 debate the 02:09:29.119 --> 02:09:31.720 motion Council 02:09:31.800 --> 02:09:34.920 s I'd like to move an amendment to this 02:09:35.000 --> 02:09:38.079 motion that says we explore the idea of 02:09:38.159 --> 02:09:39.439 partnering with the D at Willam 02:09:39.520 --> 02:09:41.880 Gathering Place the idea of holding a 02:09:41.960 --> 02:09:43.960 healing 02:09:44.039 --> 02:09:46.239 ceremony around in 02:09:46.319 --> 02:09:49.079 January make it broad thank you 02:09:49.159 --> 02:09:52.720 councilor s do we have a second of 02:09:52.800 --> 02:09:54.680 thank you councelor hill I'll just 02:09:54.760 --> 02:09:56.680 repeat it so that it's captured that we 02:09:56.760 --> 02:09:59.760 explore the idea of holding a healing 02:09:59.840 --> 02:10:02.239 [Music] 02:10:02.319 --> 02:10:05.640 ceremony in 02:10:06.960 --> 02:10:09.119 partnership with the derit will 02:10:09.199 --> 02:10:11.680 Gathering 02:10:14.439 --> 02:10:17.680 Place in 02:10:19.680 --> 02:10:22.560 January so govern have just reminded me 02:10:22.640 --> 02:10:24.479 to check if the Mover and the seconder 02:10:24.560 --> 02:10:26.720 would be agreeable to this inclusion 02:10:26.800 --> 02:10:28.800 councelor Davies and councelor H are you 02:10:28.880 --> 02:10:31.880 agreeable 02:10:52.800 --> 02:10:54.239 because it's been seconded can we just 02:10:54.319 --> 02:10:56.479 debate 02:10:56.560 --> 02:10:59.199 it 02:10:59.279 --> 02:11:02.000 second so move in the second or your 02:11:02.079 --> 02:11:03.560 reply 02:11:03.640 --> 02:11:06.760 otherwise okay that's fine we'll ask the 02:11:06.840 --> 02:11:08.079 because it has been seconded by 02:11:08.159 --> 02:11:09.800 councilor hill we can now debate this 02:11:09.880 --> 02:11:12.479 amendment as an amendment on its own 02:11:12.560 --> 02:11:14.479 thank you councilor 02:11:14.560 --> 02:11:17.239 S I don't believe this requires any 02:11:17.319 --> 02:11:19.399 additional points to be made except for 02:11:19.479 --> 02:11:22.000 the point that this is to be holding 02:11:22.079 --> 02:11:23.520 this motion is calling for us to hold a 02:11:23.600 --> 02:11:26.079 healing ceremony irrespective of what we 02:11:26.159 --> 02:11:28.000 do it is to be holding a healing 02:11:28.079 --> 02:11:30.439 ceremony in January in partnership with 02:11:30.520 --> 02:11:32.479 the Der Willam Gathering Place 02:11:32.560 --> 02:11:35.479 recognizing what that month what that 02:11:35.560 --> 02:11:37.359 significant month holds for our first 02:11:37.439 --> 02:11:40.439 nation's people that is all anyone who 02:11:40.520 --> 02:11:43.319 opposes this is I I don't know how you 02:11:43.399 --> 02:11:44.880 could oppose this this is an additional 02:11:44.960 --> 02:11:46.279 thing that we're seeking to do in 02:11:46.359 --> 02:11:48.199 partnership with a group that most 02:11:48.279 --> 02:11:50.279 likely already runs something similar it 02:11:50.359 --> 02:11:51.800 is us now part partnering with and 02:11:51.880 --> 02:11:53.720 expanding that particular offering to 02:11:53.800 --> 02:11:55.960 the community to partake in something 02:11:56.039 --> 02:11:58.520 that is a spiritual healing process 02:11:58.600 --> 02:12:02.119 thank you Council s councelor 02:12:02.680 --> 02:12:05.560 Hill again I don't think it really 02:12:05.640 --> 02:12:09.079 requires too much further discussion 02:12:09.159 --> 02:12:13.239 with regards to the way that Council 02:12:13.319 --> 02:12:17.640 Subs chosen to word this it's not that 02:12:17.720 --> 02:12:20.439 direct link to the 26th of January it's 02:12:20.520 --> 02:12:23.600 just to hold at some point in January 02:12:23.680 --> 02:12:25.119 which I think is 02:12:25.199 --> 02:12:28.439 probably makes it more feasible that 02:12:28.520 --> 02:12:30.560 we could partner with d Willen and give 02:12:30.640 --> 02:12:33.760 them the freedom to hold on a day 02:12:33.840 --> 02:12:38.119 that's suits them but then I I 02:12:38.199 --> 02:12:39.680 think too you know if we go back to the 02:12:39.760 --> 02:12:43.000 original report we had a report that 02:12:43.079 --> 02:12:44.479 said that different people have 02:12:44.560 --> 02:12:47.039 different feelings towards Australia Day 02:12:47.119 --> 02:12:50.760 so if we are to celebrate well if we 02:12:50.840 --> 02:12:54.079 to hold the citizenship ceremony on the 02:12:54.159 --> 02:12:56.399 26th of January that recognizes those 02:12:56.479 --> 02:12:59.439 people who still want to atique in a 02:12:59.520 --> 02:13:02.479 citizenship ceremony on the 26 but this 02:13:02.560 --> 02:13:04.800 is also recognizing the other points 02:13:04.880 --> 02:13:07.479 within the report that there are 02:13:07.560 --> 02:13:09.760 other people who who this who have very 02:13:09.840 --> 02:13:11.640 different sentiments towards the 02:13:11.720 --> 02:13:13.840 celebration of the 26 so I think it's 02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:16.279 respectful way of just making sure that 02:13:16.359 --> 02:13:17.720 hopefully all the people within our 02:13:17.800 --> 02:13:19.960 community are actually heard so that's 02:13:20.039 --> 02:13:21.960 all I say thank you thank you councelor 02:13:22.039 --> 02:13:23.880 Hill are there any other councilors 02:13:23.960 --> 02:13:25.439 wishing to debate the motion thank you 02:13:25.520 --> 02:13:26.840 councelor 02:13:26.920 --> 02:13:30.199 Eden yes thank you and as I look 02:13:30.279 --> 02:13:31.640 around the room I think it might just be 02:13:31.720 --> 02:13:33.800 councelor Beasley that may relate to 02:13:33.880 --> 02:13:36.119 this I remember on the first term of 02:13:36.199 --> 02:13:39.079 council it was councelor Ron it was 02:13:39.159 --> 02:13:41.760 after a meeting similar in sort of 02:13:41.840 --> 02:13:45.319 discussion flow and he said this is just 02:13:45.399 --> 02:13:49.439 exhausting and I say that again tonight 02:13:49.520 --> 02:13:51.800 because we've just gone through 02:13:51.880 --> 02:13:55.319 positions where we're told policies 02:13:55.399 --> 02:13:57.279 would dictate that we'd have it on a 02:13:57.359 --> 02:13:59.640 certain day to then find out the 02:13:59.720 --> 02:14:03.079 policies don't already direct Council 02:14:03.159 --> 02:14:05.560 to have it on the particular day we've 02:14:05.640 --> 02:14:09.279 had reports come to council now with 02:14:09.359 --> 02:14:12.039 consultation then we've had ideas where 02:14:12.119 --> 02:14:15.039 the sentences weren't even clear around 02:14:15.119 --> 02:14:17.000 Australia Day being on a particular day 02:14:17.079 --> 02:14:19.039 alongside a healing 02:14:19.119 --> 02:14:21.880 ceremony and I reflect on all of the 02:14:21.960 --> 02:14:23.800 conversations we've had on this Council 02:14:23.880 --> 02:14:27.239 about council is being involved and 02:14:27.319 --> 02:14:29.079 understanding what's coming to 02:14:29.159 --> 02:14:32.079 council I look through this and we're 02:14:32.159 --> 02:14:35.680 spending $1700 on cookies on a public 02:14:35.760 --> 02:14:37.039 holiday compared to 02:14:37.119 --> 02:14:41.279 $800 a couple of months prior 02:14:41.359 --> 02:14:44.119 potentially what is a healing 02:14:44.199 --> 02:14:46.680 ceremony what does that even 02:14:46.760 --> 02:14:49.399 entail and how have we gone from a 02:14:49.479 --> 02:14:52.199 recommendation tonight on citizenship 02:14:52.279 --> 02:14:54.319 ceremonies to now having additional 02:14:54.399 --> 02:14:56.239 events that may have a 02:14:56.319 --> 02:14:59.279 correlation to changing the date but 02:14:59.359 --> 02:15:02.079 still aren't actually about citizenship 02:15:02.159 --> 02:15:04.600 ceremonies I just find the way in which 02:15:04.680 --> 02:15:06.920 the whole debate and the whole flow 02:15:07.000 --> 02:15:09.239 tonight has gone could have very much 02:15:09.319 --> 02:15:10.079 been 02:15:10.159 --> 02:15:12.600 simplified with council's making a 02:15:12.680 --> 02:15:15.720 request 3 years ago to say we recognize 02:15:15.800 --> 02:15:17.520 there's a difference in what people view 02:15:17.600 --> 02:15:21.479 Australia day as Australia day as can we 02:15:21.560 --> 02:15:23.920 have a healing ceremony scheduled 02:15:24.000 --> 02:15:26.000 sometime in January and that could have 02:15:26.079 --> 02:15:28.359 been processed so many years ago it 02:15:28.439 --> 02:15:30.359 could have happened and I don't think 02:15:30.439 --> 02:15:32.880 we'd have the controversy that we do 02:15:32.960 --> 02:15:35.840 now why is tonight so painful I think 02:15:35.920 --> 02:15:37.840 it's because we've got to a point where 02:15:37.920 --> 02:15:40.680 policy is not understood debate is now 02:15:40.760 --> 02:15:42.680 being mixed with healing ceremonies and 02:15:42.760 --> 02:15:44.600 mixed with citizenship 02:15:44.680 --> 02:15:46.520 ceremonies and we've gone backwards 02:15:46.600 --> 02:15:49.199 and forwards over what policies even 02:15:49.279 --> 02:15:51.560 meant I think this whole issue has 02:15:51.640 --> 02:15:54.239 become emotional and painful for some 02:15:54.319 --> 02:15:56.359 people because we haven't just sat down 02:15:56.439 --> 02:15:57.840 as a collective group and said hey a 02:15:57.920 --> 02:16:00.159 council's got a great idea let's have a 02:16:00.239 --> 02:16:02.960 healing ceremony what else do we want to 02:16:03.039 --> 02:16:07.039 actually have on Australia Day as a 02:16:07.119 --> 02:16:08.920 collective group and see if there was 02:16:09.000 --> 02:16:10.920 some consensus there rather than what 02:16:11.000 --> 02:16:13.560 we've gone through tonight which I can 02:16:13.640 --> 02:16:15.760 just describe as exhausting as far as 02:16:15.840 --> 02:16:18.399 Council debates go in following it and 02:16:18.479 --> 02:16:22.600 The Logical flow of it and I think 02:16:22.680 --> 02:16:25.000 fundamentally this report talks about 02:16:25.079 --> 02:16:26.560 citizenship ceremonies we should be 02:16:26.640 --> 02:16:28.840 discussing citizenship ceremonies 02:16:28.920 --> 02:16:30.359 otherwise we're now getting into event 02:16:30.439 --> 02:16:33.879 management planning which is fine but 02:16:33.959 --> 02:16:35.719 that's a whole separate discussion is 02:16:35.799 --> 02:16:37.079 this even going to be over 02:16:37.159 --> 02:16:39.200 $25,000 which our policies I think 02:16:39.280 --> 02:16:41.639 dictate we can't even debate tonight and 02:16:41.719 --> 02:16:44.639 I'd put that question forward can some 02:16:44.719 --> 02:16:47.959 clarity be provided in that regard about 02:16:48.040 --> 02:16:49.799 what this actually will mean 02:16:49.879 --> 02:16:51.559 operationally or will adopt something 02:16:51.639 --> 02:16:53.399 that officers come back in 2 months and 02:16:53.479 --> 02:16:55.440 say it's actually going to be $100,000 02:16:55.520 --> 02:16:57.719 commitment based on the fact cookies are 02:16:57.799 --> 02:16:58.840 almost 02:16:58.920 --> 02:17:01.520 $2,000 thank you Council Eden I will 02:17:01.600 --> 02:17:02.879 reflect that question through to the 02:17:02.959 --> 02:17:04.719 general manager and see if she's able to 02:17:04.799 --> 02:17:07.239 provide a 02:17:10.520 --> 02:17:13.840 response a respon on that's okay the 02:17:13.920 --> 02:17:17.399 cost of heing 02:17:21.280 --> 02:17:24.120 in regards to the costs of the event 02:17:24.200 --> 02:17:25.639 they're in the report that's been 02:17:25.719 --> 02:17:28.959 provided to councils councilors so that 02:17:29.040 --> 02:17:30.399 really was just to set up the difference 02:17:30.479 --> 02:17:33.719 in cost if that was to be held on a day 02:17:33.799 --> 02:17:35.639 that was not a public holiday or on a 02:17:35.719 --> 02:17:37.959 day that was a public holiday is that 02:17:38.040 --> 02:17:40.280 answer the question for the counselor 02:17:40.360 --> 02:17:41.520 thank 02:17:41.600 --> 02:17:44.920 you Council Eden no it doesn't my 02:17:45.000 --> 02:17:46.239 question more went 02:17:46.319 --> 02:17:49.239 to there's a proposed amendment about a 02:17:49.319 --> 02:17:51.799 healing ceremony 02:17:51.879 --> 02:17:53.559 considering that some of these things 02:17:53.639 --> 02:17:56.440 are in the Australia Day budget 02:17:56.520 --> 02:17:59.760 substantial yet Beyond trivial in terms 02:17:59.840 --> 02:18:02.559 of their role in a function what would 02:18:02.639 --> 02:18:04.920 Council officers expect a healing 02:18:05.000 --> 02:18:07.840 ceremony to cost and would that be in 02:18:07.920 --> 02:18:09.440 compliance with our policies around the 02:18:09.520 --> 02:18:12.000 25,000 or the limits that we have in 02:18:12.079 --> 02:18:15.760 place around expenditure without a 02:18:15.840 --> 02:18:19.239 report counil thank you thank you 02:18:19.319 --> 02:18:20.399 through the minute I would have to take 02:18:20.479 --> 02:18:21.760 that on notice I couldn't answer that 02:18:21.840 --> 02:18:25.680 question at this stage thank Youk 02:18:28.479 --> 02:18:30.680 you we'll just check another governance 02:18:30.760 --> 02:18:33.239 point one 02:18:36.920 --> 02:18:39.280 moment it's only a notice of motion that 02:18:39.360 --> 02:18:42.319 requires the of 02:18:45.000 --> 02:18:48.319 $25,000 Amendment okay thank you our 02:18:48.399 --> 02:18:50.159 governance officer Miss shlock has just 02:18:50.239 --> 02:18:52.719 confirmed that 02:18:52.799 --> 02:18:55.360 25.7 U that you are correct Council Eden 02:18:55.440 --> 02:18:56.920 that an amendment must call for an 02:18:57.000 --> 02:18:58.479 officer report if the amendment commits 02:18:58.559 --> 02:19:00.200 the council to expenditure in excess of 02:19:00.280 --> 02:19:02.799 $25,000 that has not been included in 02:19:02.879 --> 02:19:05.159 the adopted 02:19:05.239 --> 02:19:07.520 budget do you have any further questions 02:19:07.600 --> 02:19:09.000 one other question what's your further 02:19:09.079 --> 02:19:11.440 question so on the basis of that officer 02:19:11.520 --> 02:19:14.719 advice would this amendment therefore 02:19:14.799 --> 02:19:17.000 commit Council to a trivial investment 02:19:17.079 --> 02:19:19.040 into the event compared to if we got an 02:19:19.120 --> 02:19:21.040 officer report and the funding or the 02:19:21.120 --> 02:19:22.079 commitment was 02:19:22.159 --> 02:19:24.399 [Music] 02:19:24.479 --> 02:19:26.600 over thank you I believe that the 02:19:26.680 --> 02:19:28.600 manager has not been able to provide 02:19:28.680 --> 02:19:30.479 a response given that this is something 02:19:30.559 --> 02:19:33.239 that they not been able to previously 02:19:33.319 --> 02:19:37.879 review so I would suggest that 02:19:37.959 --> 02:19:40.280 Council sa looks to amend that or that 02:19:40.360 --> 02:19:42.600 we leave the motion as is and councils 02:19:42.680 --> 02:19:46.559 are welcome to vote it down 02:19:53.120 --> 02:19:55.840 thank you just to confirm that the most 02:19:55.920 --> 02:19:57.879 if the amend is over 25,000 requirement 02:19:57.959 --> 02:20:00.520 is for it has to it back to council all 02:20:00.600 --> 02:20:02.079 right anyone else wishing to debate the 02:20:02.159 --> 02:20:05.280 amendment councelor 02:20:05.559 --> 02:20:09.200 Hal thank you and when I came into this 02:20:09.280 --> 02:20:12.719 room tonight 7:00 it's now 9:30 on the 02:20:12.799 --> 02:20:13.600 same 02:20:13.680 --> 02:20:15.639 subject we were 02:20:15.719 --> 02:20:18.200 discussing the personal freedom and 02:20:18.280 --> 02:20:20.000 choice to get your citizenship 02:20:20.079 --> 02:20:23.040 certificate on the national holiday 02:20:23.120 --> 02:20:24.920 point of order again sorry on 02:20:25.000 --> 02:20:26.479 irrelevance Madame mayor we're 02:20:26.559 --> 02:20:28.319 discussing the amendment that's what 02:20:28.399 --> 02:20:29.760 we're discussing the debate has to be 02:20:29.840 --> 02:20:32.360 tied to specifically the 02:20:32.440 --> 02:20:34.920 amendment thank you I will rule in favor 02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:37.000 Council how if you could try to 02:20:37.079 --> 02:20:39.399 just very very appreciative of the point 02:20:39.479 --> 02:20:41.600 of order and I'll be sticking to this 02:20:41.680 --> 02:20:44.239 exact precise matter about the healing 02:20:44.319 --> 02:20:47.040 ceremony could I please ask a question 02:20:47.120 --> 02:20:49.159 cuz I'm still not clear what is a 02:20:49.239 --> 02:20:51.680 healing ceremony what does it cost and 02:20:51.760 --> 02:20:53.440 will it be on January 26th because this 02:20:53.520 --> 02:20:57.520 item says it could be in January thank 02:20:57.600 --> 02:20:59.920 you I'll just give my second warning to 02:21:00.000 --> 02:21:01.920 those in the gallery you're here in an 02:21:02.000 --> 02:21:03.200 observatory 02:21:03.280 --> 02:21:06.559 capacity thank 02:21:06.639 --> 02:21:08.879 you I'll ask that question through the 02:21:08.959 --> 02:21:11.239 relevant 02:21:11.319 --> 02:21:13.520 manager thank you and through the mayor 02:21:13.600 --> 02:21:15.600 that is something that we would need 02:21:15.680 --> 02:21:17.600 to work on with the deram Willing 02:21:17.680 --> 02:21:21.600 Gathering Place as to what might they 02:21:21.680 --> 02:21:23.120 might be interested in what that would 02:21:23.200 --> 02:21:25.159 mean to them this is a cultural event 02:21:25.239 --> 02:21:27.399 for them I'm not the right person to be 02:21:27.479 --> 02:21:29.520 answering that however we would make 02:21:29.600 --> 02:21:33.159 sure that we engage with anyone 02:21:33.239 --> 02:21:35.000 who would be interested in working with 02:21:35.079 --> 02:21:36.319 Council on 02:21:36.399 --> 02:21:38.840 that thank you very much for your 02:21:38.920 --> 02:21:41.520 response thank you and our indigenous 02:21:41.600 --> 02:21:43.040 culture in Australia is something that 02:21:43.120 --> 02:21:45.799 we should be proud of and they have the 02:21:45.879 --> 02:21:48.000 capacity to be celebrating that at 02:21:48.079 --> 02:21:50.760 many times throughout the year and we've 02:21:50.840 --> 02:21:52.319 got the indigenous round on at the 02:21:52.399 --> 02:21:53.799 moment dream time at the 02:21:53.879 --> 02:21:57.559 G which is fantastic now because I'm 02:21:57.639 --> 02:21:59.440 not clear again on what it is that we're 02:21:59.520 --> 02:22:02.920 precisely referring to how can you ask 02:22:03.000 --> 02:22:04.479 me to make a decision on this and we've 02:22:04.559 --> 02:22:06.680 seen this with the Harry Potter at 02:22:06.760 --> 02:22:09.239 the Bri Sanctuary down at morning P 02:22:09.319 --> 02:22:11.079 where one counselor just can't make a 02:22:11.159 --> 02:22:13.239 call okay Madame May again honestly to 02:22:13.319 --> 02:22:15.440 the point of order on irrelevance it 02:22:15.520 --> 02:22:17.120 needs to be kept to specifically what 02:22:17.200 --> 02:22:19.239 this am is talking it's not clear let's 02:22:19.319 --> 02:22:21.520 just allow councel how to 02:22:21.600 --> 02:22:24.000 thank you Council how Council I suggest 02:22:24.079 --> 02:22:26.000 that we put this amendment to the vote 02:22:26.079 --> 02:22:27.639 Council oxy did you wish to speak before 02:22:27.719 --> 02:22:32.120 we do that I do thank you thanks so 02:22:32.680 --> 02:22:35.239 much on the amendment I'd just like 02:22:35.319 --> 02:22:38.879 to flag or foreshadow an additional 02:22:38.959 --> 02:22:42.000 Amendment if this is also carried 02:22:42.079 --> 02:22:45.280 that we also explore other 02:22:45.360 --> 02:22:48.639 functions in terms of celebrations or 02:22:48.719 --> 02:22:50.840 whatever other types of of cere iies we 02:22:50.920 --> 02:22:53.440 may wish to hold which could be 02:22:53.520 --> 02:22:54.639 similar to the ones that we've held in 02:22:54.719 --> 02:22:56.760 the past like Globe to globe or 02:22:56.840 --> 02:22:58.440 Community barbecues or Community 02:22:58.520 --> 02:23:01.239 breakfasts or anything along those lines 02:23:01.319 --> 02:23:04.840 to celebrate what makes our country 02:23:04.920 --> 02:23:06.920 great to celebrate the history of our 02:23:07.000 --> 02:23:09.879 country whether that be what is 02:23:09.959 --> 02:23:13.200 potentially a a dark history I think we 02:23:13.280 --> 02:23:15.799 all acknowledge that in most countries 02:23:15.879 --> 02:23:17.639 there are things that perhaps those 02:23:17.719 --> 02:23:19.159 countries aren't proud 02:23:19.239 --> 02:23:23.799 of but at the same time I look to what 02:23:23.879 --> 02:23:26.600 we have now and what we are trying to 02:23:26.680 --> 02:23:30.520 create and that is a future where 02:23:30.600 --> 02:23:32.639 everyone can be United in some way shape 02:23:32.719 --> 02:23:35.079 or form of all of the different people 02:23:35.159 --> 02:23:37.719 and cultures that make up what I think 02:23:37.799 --> 02:23:39.000 is a beautiful country that we're 02:23:39.079 --> 02:23:41.319 incredibly lucky to live in when you 02:23:41.399 --> 02:23:42.520 consider what's happening across the 02:23:42.600 --> 02:23:44.520 rest of the world I'd just like to 02:23:44.600 --> 02:23:47.079 foreshadow that as well thank you 02:23:47.159 --> 02:23:49.399 councilor Oxley councilors I propose 02:23:49.479 --> 02:23:52.000 that we put this Amendment to the 02:23:52.079 --> 02:23:54.440 vote ask all those in favor please raise 02:23:54.520 --> 02:23:56.680 your 02:24:12.280 --> 02:24:14.840 hand I'll ask all those voting against 02:24:14.920 --> 02:24:16.399 to please raise your 02:24:16.479 --> 02:24:18.719 hand all those abstaining to please 02:24:18.799 --> 02:24:22.159 raise your hand 02:24:23.559 --> 02:24:26.959 I declare the amendment has been 02:24:27.040 --> 02:24:30.079 carried thank you Council 02:24:30.159 --> 02:24:32.639 Oxley thank you as I foreshadowed I 02:24:32.719 --> 02:24:34.479 would also like to move a subsequent 02:24:34.559 --> 02:24:38.000 amendment to that thank 02:24:47.639 --> 02:24:49.920 you okay thank you Council oxy for your 02:24:50.000 --> 02:24:51.799 patience would you read out your motion 02:24:51.879 --> 02:24:53.360 and if the Mover and the seconder are 02:24:53.440 --> 02:24:54.920 agreeable if form part of the 02:24:55.000 --> 02:24:56.319 substantive otherwise we'll call for 02:24:56.399 --> 02:24:58.120 someone to second the motion and that 02:24:58.200 --> 02:25:03.479 will be that Council sorry I'll wait 02:25:06.959 --> 02:25:10.719 to explore 02:25:13.639 --> 02:25:18.639 opportunities or further functions 02:25:20.920 --> 02:25:24.680 to be held on Australia 02:25:25.760 --> 02:25:28.760 Day 02:25:29.680 --> 02:25:32.799 recognizing the 02:25:32.879 --> 02:25:35.879 unified 02:25:43.520 --> 02:25:45.840 Australia thank you can I just have 02:25:45.920 --> 02:25:48.200 governance remind me who the move second 02:25:48.280 --> 02:25:51.600 are please 02:26:01.040 --> 02:26:04.440 okay so councilor Davies and councelor H 02:26:04.520 --> 02:26:06.319 there's an amendment being proposed 02:26:06.399 --> 02:26:09.399 would you like to accept the 02:26:11.239 --> 02:26:13.040 amendment that's the advice I've been 02:26:13.120 --> 02:26:14.920 given by Governors to check with the and 02:26:15.000 --> 02:26:16.319 seconda and they've advised me on the 02:26:16.399 --> 02:26:18.959 screen that those are the people so 02:26:19.040 --> 02:26:20.799 councelor why you indicated yes you'll 02:26:20.879 --> 02:26:22.639 accept the amendment councelor Davies 02:26:22.719 --> 02:26:24.239 you'll accept the amendment thank you 02:26:24.319 --> 02:26:25.319 this will now form part of the 02:26:25.399 --> 02:26:26.440 substantive 02:26:26.520 --> 02:26:28.719 motion could I please ask governance to 02:26:28.799 --> 02:26:30.280 bring the substantive motion onto the 02:26:30.360 --> 02:26:33.360 screen 02:26:50.360 --> 02:26:52.760 I need to 02:27:00.079 --> 02:27:02.799 check is there any counselor wishing 02:27:02.879 --> 02:27:04.280 to further speak I'm just checking with 02:27:04.360 --> 02:27:06.159 governance given the debate has gone 02:27:06.239 --> 02:27:08.680 across a few amendments Council oxy I'll 02:27:08.760 --> 02:27:09.920 just check with governance any other 02:27:10.000 --> 02:27:11.680 councilors wishing to 02:27:11.760 --> 02:27:15.120 speak no just one moment Council Oxley 02:27:15.200 --> 02:27:17.239 thank you Council 02:27:17.319 --> 02:27:20.760 Oxley thank you I'd just brief like 02:27:20.840 --> 02:27:22.239 to speak 02:27:22.319 --> 02:27:25.479 to sorry is that the substantive no it's 02:27:25.559 --> 02:27:27.559 not okay I'm just 02:27:27.639 --> 02:27:29.760 clarifying just make sure I'm speaking 02:27:29.840 --> 02:27:31.799 to the right thing thank you we can just 02:27:31.879 --> 02:27:34.239 pause if you 02:27:34.319 --> 02:27:36.399 like so governance do you need some 02:27:36.479 --> 02:27:38.280 assistance we've just moved there's two 02:27:38.360 --> 02:27:40.239 amendments so that was the first one the 02:27:40.319 --> 02:27:42.719 second one is just there if the council 02:27:42.799 --> 02:27:44.200 explore opportunities for further 02:27:44.280 --> 02:27:47.120 functions to be held on Australia they 02:27:47.200 --> 02:27:52.000 recognize the unified Australia 02:28:00.719 --> 02:28:04.000 and and the previous 02:28:04.079 --> 02:28:08.399 Amendment yeah that one 02:28:23.920 --> 02:28:26.799 thank you councelor Oxley thank you 02:28:26.879 --> 02:28:28.159 the point that I'd specifically like to 02:28:28.239 --> 02:28:31.280 speak to is3 and it has been some 02:28:31.360 --> 02:28:33.520 years since we've probably held a number 02:28:33.600 --> 02:28:35.200 of different functions on Australia Day 02:28:35.280 --> 02:28:36.799 and whilst now we only really hold the 02:28:36.879 --> 02:28:39.000 citizenship ceremony when I first 02:28:39.079 --> 02:28:41.159 started on Council we held Globe to 02:28:41.239 --> 02:28:43.719 Globe Globe to Globe was a a great 02:28:43.799 --> 02:28:45.719 Festival that I thoroughly enjoyed 02:28:45.799 --> 02:28:47.479 attending after we held our Australia 02:28:47.559 --> 02:28:50.280 Day breakfast that also included our 02:28:50.360 --> 02:28:52.000 Australia Day Awards where we awarded 02:28:52.079 --> 02:28:53.680 the citizen of the year the community 02:28:53.760 --> 02:28:56.440 group of the year and that that was a 02:28:56.520 --> 02:28:58.120 fantastic event we had we filled the 02:28:58.200 --> 02:28:59.959 town hall where people were 02:29:00.040 --> 02:29:03.120 incredibly happy to attend where people 02:29:03.200 --> 02:29:05.840 were waving Australia Day flags all of 02:29:05.920 --> 02:29:08.200 these 02:29:09.280 --> 02:29:12.000 things I'm not necessarily saying that 02:29:12.079 --> 02:29:14.399 where we're at now means that what we 02:29:14.479 --> 02:29:17.760 did then was perhaps as inclusive as it 02:29:17.840 --> 02:29:19.280 could have been to all of our different 02:29:19.360 --> 02:29:22.040 communities with in the city of 02:29:22.120 --> 02:29:26.040 Kingston what I do know is that by us 02:29:26.120 --> 02:29:27.600 not really acknowledging Australia Day 02:29:27.680 --> 02:29:28.360 at 02:29:28.440 --> 02:29:30.840 all isn't the right way 02:29:30.920 --> 02:29:32.959 either and I think there is a way that 02:29:33.040 --> 02:29:36.920 we can do this that is sensitive to all 02:29:37.000 --> 02:29:38.719 of the different groups across 02:29:38.799 --> 02:29:41.840 Kingston where we acknowledge our 02:29:41.920 --> 02:29:44.879 history we see where we've come 02:29:44.959 --> 02:29:48.159 from we try to bring people together in 02:29:48.239 --> 02:29:50.639 the way that I think most of us would 02:29:50.719 --> 02:29:52.280 probably want to 02:29:52.360 --> 02:29:56.319 achieve and recognize how incredibly 02:29:56.399 --> 02:30:00.000 lucky we are to live in a 02:30:00.079 --> 02:30:03.639 country that where I currently stand is 02:30:03.719 --> 02:30:05.399 not war torn like some of the other 02:30:05.479 --> 02:30:07.959 countries we're seeing at the moment is 02:30:08.040 --> 02:30:11.559 not experiencing some significant 02:30:11.639 --> 02:30:15.760 significant problems in their 02:30:15.840 --> 02:30:19.239 countries I'm I consider myself lucky to 02:30:19.319 --> 02:30:21.760 have just had to have been born here in 02:30:21.840 --> 02:30:25.520 a beautiful relatively free 02:30:25.600 --> 02:30:27.280 country as 02:30:27.360 --> 02:30:30.440 a local government 02:30:30.520 --> 02:30:32.920 representative that gets to represent my 02:30:33.000 --> 02:30:36.040 community it's pretty lucky if you ask 02:30:36.120 --> 02:30:38.639 me if that date in the future is changed 02:30:38.719 --> 02:30:42.600 from the 26th of January so be it but 02:30:42.680 --> 02:30:45.840 that is not our decision as a local 02:30:45.920 --> 02:30:48.319 government that is a decision to be made 02:30:48.399 --> 02:30:50.399 at some point in the future by federal 02:30:50.479 --> 02:30:51.840 government that may make the decision to 02:30:51.920 --> 02:30:53.520 do 02:30:53.600 --> 02:30:56.879 that but this is about us trying to 02:30:56.959 --> 02:30:59.200 create an inclusive community and I'm 02:30:59.280 --> 02:31:01.159 very supportive of doing that with all 02:31:01.239 --> 02:31:02.479 of the different cultures that we have 02:31:02.559 --> 02:31:04.319 across the city of 02:31:04.399 --> 02:31:07.760 Kingston not to the 02:31:07.840 --> 02:31:09.959 detriment of others that may choose to 02:31:10.040 --> 02:31:11.920 celebrate Australia Day on the day that 02:31:12.000 --> 02:31:13.440 it currently is as I said if that 02:31:13.520 --> 02:31:16.239 changes in the future it changes in the 02:31:16.319 --> 02:31:18.879 future but I think what we see in front 02:31:18.959 --> 02:31:20.399 of us is the motion today 02:31:20.479 --> 02:31:23.200 today explores opportunities for us 02:31:23.280 --> 02:31:24.600 being 02:31:24.680 --> 02:31:26.959 inclusive Globe to Globe was a great 02:31:27.040 --> 02:31:28.879 Festival that we had it brought people 02:31:28.959 --> 02:31:30.360 together we celebrated different 02:31:30.440 --> 02:31:32.040 cultures there was African music there 02:31:32.120 --> 02:31:33.559 was whole heap of different cultures 02:31:33.639 --> 02:31:35.639 that came along to celebrate how 02:31:35.719 --> 02:31:38.079 fantastic it is when we all come 02:31:38.159 --> 02:31:40.079 together that's what I want Australia 02:31:40.159 --> 02:31:42.479 Day to be and while that's currently the 02:31:42.559 --> 02:31:44.959 26th of January that's what I would like 02:31:45.040 --> 02:31:47.520 Australia Day to 02:31:47.600 --> 02:31:51.959 be thank you Council 02:31:52.040 --> 02:31:54.440 yeah I just confirm do I need to 02:31:54.520 --> 02:31:58.559 return to the Mover for 02:31:58.639 --> 02:32:01.879 closing close no close governance have 02:32:01.959 --> 02:32:04.639 confirmed no close Council up can I just 02:32:04.719 --> 02:32:06.760 ask a question which is a similar 02:32:06.840 --> 02:32:09.440 question that was asked prior point 02:32:09.520 --> 02:32:11.760 three especially the reference to Globe 02:32:11.840 --> 02:32:14.840 to Globe doesn't that also require a 02:32:14.920 --> 02:32:16.559 report then if the expenditure is going 02:32:16.639 --> 02:32:19.879 to be over $25,000 02:32:19.959 --> 02:32:22.239 thank you councilor sa I'll ask for that 02:32:22.319 --> 02:32:23.520 question to be responded to by 02:32:23.600 --> 02:32:24.959 governance thank 02:32:25.040 --> 02:32:27.879 you through mayor Dave Burns that is 02:32:27.959 --> 02:32:30.719 correct if if this motion did exceed 02:32:30.799 --> 02:32:33.120 $25,000 we would have an office of 02:32:33.200 --> 02:32:35.040 report I think at this point the motion 02:32:35.120 --> 02:32:37.200 is quite Broad and quite vague and the 02:32:37.280 --> 02:32:38.520 exploration I'm not sure whether that 02:32:38.600 --> 02:32:41.399 would meet the 25,000 threshold or not 02:32:41.479 --> 02:32:43.280 our practice would be as offices if 02:32:43.360 --> 02:32:45.079 this is Carri tonight and our 02:32:45.159 --> 02:32:47.239 exploration finds that an event such 02:32:47.319 --> 02:32:49.760 as this would exceed $25,000 we would 02:32:49.840 --> 02:32:51.399 would bring a report back to council for 02:32:51.479 --> 02:32:53.120 further decision 02:32:53.200 --> 02:32:56.040 making thank you m shlock councilor 02:32:56.120 --> 02:32:58.200 Oxley did you have a further question 02:32:58.280 --> 02:32:59.799 would it not be a report anyway because 02:32:59.879 --> 02:33:01.559 that's basically what 2 and3 are asking 02:33:01.639 --> 02:33:06.159 for it's literally just a report so I'm 02:33:06.239 --> 02:33:08.879 not do we require further 02:33:08.959 --> 02:33:11.799 clarification 02:33:11.879 --> 02:33:13.719 councilors 02:33:13.799 --> 02:33:16.120 no councilors I'll put this item to the 02:33:16.200 --> 02:33:18.360 vote all those in favor sorry Madame 02:33:18.440 --> 02:33:21.440 mayor 02:33:21.719 --> 02:33:24.520 can we vote in 02:33:26.840 --> 02:33:30.040 Parts I think unfortunately councilor S 02:33:30.120 --> 02:33:32.559 I missed you indicating that you wish to 02:33:32.639 --> 02:33:34.159 do 02:33:34.239 --> 02:33:37.799 so I'm sorry so those who are voting for 02:33:37.879 --> 02:33:40.520 please raise your 02:33:42.319 --> 02:33:46.159 hands those who are voting 02:33:48.719 --> 02:33:51.719 against and those 02:33:51.799 --> 02:33:53.840 abstaining governance have we captured 02:33:53.920 --> 02:33:56.760 everyone there councilor H could you 02:33:56.840 --> 02:33:59.600 please advise are you for thank you 02:33:59.680 --> 02:34:01.840 councelor H is for councelor how are you 02:34:01.920 --> 02:34:07.760 for thank you councelor Hill you voted 02:34:07.840 --> 02:34:10.600 against councelor Beasley I believe 02:34:10.680 --> 02:34:11.600 you voted 02:34:11.680 --> 02:34:15.719 for okay I just call a division yes 02:34:15.799 --> 02:34:17.600 thank you councilor H will call a 02:34:17.680 --> 02:34:20.239 division and try that again 02:34:20.319 --> 02:34:22.959 please everyone check your names on 02:34:23.040 --> 02:34:26.639 the screen that's your good voting 02:34:26.719 --> 02:34:28.479 responsibility please stand if you'd 02:34:28.559 --> 02:34:32.719 like to vote for councelor 02:34:32.799 --> 02:34:36.280 Eden councelor Oxley councelor Davies 02:34:36.360 --> 02:34:40.719 councelor Hal councelor h councelor 02:34:41.479 --> 02:34:45.079 Beasley council is voting against mayor 02:34:45.159 --> 02:34:48.440 Davey Burns councelor Hill councelor Sab 02:34:48.520 --> 02:34:51.639 I declare that car 02:34:51.920 --> 02:34:54.879 the next item on the agenda is item 9.1 02:34:54.959 --> 02:34:56.840 Heatherton Park master plan councilors 02:34:56.920 --> 02:34:58.079 do we have a 02:34:58.159 --> 02:35:01.200 [Music] 02:35:10.159 --> 02:35:12.760 motion Council Hill are you moving the H 02:35:12.840 --> 02:35:15.360 yes just move recommendation thank you 02:35:15.440 --> 02:35:16.680 do we have a second oh thank you 02:35:16.760 --> 02:35:20.079 councilor SA 02:35:20.159 --> 02:35:21.399 Council Hill would you like to debate 02:35:21.479 --> 02:35:23.879 the motion look just really really 02:35:23.959 --> 02:35:26.879 briefly you know given the extent of 02:35:26.959 --> 02:35:30.719 the debate on the previous item this 02:35:30.799 --> 02:35:34.360 is a master plan for this area 02:35:34.440 --> 02:35:37.719 what it's really looking to do is 02:35:37.799 --> 02:35:39.879 adding to and improving the amenity the 02:35:39.959 --> 02:35:41.479 environmental values and also the 02:35:41.559 --> 02:35:43.440 connectivity of The Wider path 02:35:43.520 --> 02:35:45.879 Network there'll be increased 02:35:45.959 --> 02:35:48.920 vegetation cover I note in the report 02:35:49.000 --> 02:35:51.840 a really significant increase as a 02:35:51.920 --> 02:35:55.159 result of this master plan of 3 to 02:35:55.239 --> 02:35:59.159 20% and also garden bed area 02:35:59.239 --> 02:36:01.239 increasing from 9 to 02:36:01.319 --> 02:36:05.239 35% with regards to the improved 02:36:05.319 --> 02:36:07.360 connectivity and accessibility there'll 02:36:07.440 --> 02:36:09.680 be improved path connections through 02:36:09.760 --> 02:36:12.399 the center of the park also provide 02:36:12.479 --> 02:36:14.360 better connection connection between 02:36:14.440 --> 02:36:17.399 Heatherton Park and the chain of parks 02:36:17.479 --> 02:36:19.879 and there currently is no off street 02:36:19.959 --> 02:36:22.440 parking provision so this will 02:36:22.520 --> 02:36:25.719 introduce a small off street car park 02:36:25.799 --> 02:36:27.120 which will be accessible off Ireland 02:36:27.200 --> 02:36:29.559 Road and then finally just with 02:36:29.639 --> 02:36:30.840 regards to 02:36:30.920 --> 02:36:33.479 activation there really isn't much 02:36:33.559 --> 02:36:36.239 there at this space at the moment and 02:36:36.319 --> 02:36:39.000 the new U master plan includes fitness 02:36:39.079 --> 02:36:41.920 equipment the fenced offleash dog area 02:36:42.000 --> 02:36:43.680 additional shelter picnic area and 02:36:43.760 --> 02:36:46.760 viewing platform so really really good 02:36:46.840 --> 02:36:49.639 Rejuvenation of this space that we 02:36:49.719 --> 02:36:52.719 should all hopefully get to when 02:36:52.799 --> 02:36:55.840 it's finally completed thank 02:36:55.920 --> 02:36:58.399 you thank you councilor hill councilors 02:36:58.479 --> 02:37:00.319 we need to move a procedural motion to 02:37:00.399 --> 02:37:03.600 extend the length of time of this 02:37:03.680 --> 02:37:06.799 meeting I suggest that we 02:37:06.879 --> 02:37:10.879 look to move that for an hour from 10: 02:37:10.959 --> 02:37:12.959 to 11:00 p.m. noting the contents that 02:37:13.040 --> 02:37:14.559 we need to get 02:37:14.639 --> 02:37:16.680 through thank you councilor basley 02:37:16.760 --> 02:37:18.360 second and councelor Davies is any 02:37:18.440 --> 02:37:21.120 debate required 02:37:21.200 --> 02:37:22.520 I'll put that matter to the vote all 02:37:22.600 --> 02:37:24.159 those in 02:37:24.239 --> 02:37:26.959 favor councilor H could you please vote 02:37:27.040 --> 02:37:28.200 Before you 02:37:28.280 --> 02:37:31.559 depart are you 02:37:35.040 --> 02:37:37.120 abstaining so we'll just check if we've 02:37:37.200 --> 02:37:37.879 got 02:37:37.959 --> 02:37:40.079 [Music] 02:37:40.159 --> 02:37:43.079 Quor great I'll note that that was 02:37:43.159 --> 02:37:46.079 carried unanimously despite Council 02:37:46.159 --> 02:37:48.559 declining to vote on that matter he was 02:37:48.639 --> 02:37:50.399 out of his chair so I consider him not 02:37:50.479 --> 02:37:51.600 in the 02:37:51.680 --> 02:37:53.879 room councilor Davies do you wish to 02:37:53.959 --> 02:37:55.680 speak to this 02:37:55.760 --> 02:37:58.879 item does this item require any debate 02:37:58.959 --> 02:38:00.520 I'll put this item to the vote all those 02:38:00.600 --> 02:38:03.280 in favor I declare that 02:38:03.360 --> 02:38:06.520 carried 9.2 is The Granary Lane toilet 02:38:06.600 --> 02:38:08.000 demolition councilors do we have a 02:38:08.079 --> 02:38:10.479 motion thank you councilor Hill 02:38:10.559 --> 02:38:12.959 councilor 02:38:15.559 --> 02:38:18.719 Davies I would like to move an alter 02:38:18.799 --> 02:38:22.399 motion that I foreshadowed on this 02:38:24.719 --> 02:38:27.200 item as it appears on the screen thank 02:38:27.280 --> 02:38:30.000 you thank you we may just need to return 02:38:30.079 --> 02:38:34.840 to item 9.1 so we 02:38:46.239 --> 02:38:47.879 just 02:38:47.959 --> 02:38:50.399 I will take the vote again just to be 02:38:50.479 --> 02:38:51.559 really 02:38:51.639 --> 02:38:55.879 clear on item 9.1 councilors could you 02:38:55.959 --> 02:38:57.760 please vote and we'll have that recorded 02:38:57.840 --> 02:39:00.000 with 02:39:01.840 --> 02:39:06.280 governance so 9.1 the heon master plan 02:39:06.360 --> 02:39:08.520 could you please 02:39:08.600 --> 02:39:11.479 vote sorry sorry Madame may just for 02:39:11.559 --> 02:39:14.239 governance recording it was moved by 02:39:14.319 --> 02:39:16.920 councelor Hill and seconded by councelor 02:39:17.000 --> 02:39:20.280 Sab it's captured there correctly I 02:39:20.360 --> 02:39:22.239 believe that was for the extension so 02:39:22.319 --> 02:39:24.040 there's been some confusion thank you 02:39:24.120 --> 02:39:27.959 yeah I just it reflected different thank 02:39:28.040 --> 02:39:31.239 you so councilors moved by councelor 02:39:31.319 --> 02:39:33.959 Hill second and councelor sa thank you 02:39:34.040 --> 02:39:35.920 and we'll put that item to the vote all 02:39:36.000 --> 02:39:40.840 those in favor carried unanimously thank 02:39:46.479 --> 02:39:49.920 you we need to go back up governance 02:39:50.000 --> 02:39:51.639 just one moment let's slow down and we 02:39:51.719 --> 02:39:54.079 need to now debate and vote on the 02:39:54.159 --> 02:39:56.760 extension of the meeting so that was 02:39:56.840 --> 02:39:59.440 moved by councelor Davies and seconded 02:39:59.520 --> 02:40:01.040 by councelor 02:40:01.120 --> 02:40:03.600 Bley or around the other way would you 02:40:03.680 --> 02:40:06.319 like me to change that great thank you 02:40:06.399 --> 02:40:07.840 we'll change that that was councelor 02:40:07.920 --> 02:40:10.280 Bley moving that item and it was 02:40:10.360 --> 02:40:13.079 seconded by councelor Davies councilors 02:40:13.159 --> 02:40:15.639 do we require any debate on this motion 02:40:15.719 --> 02:40:17.319 no I'll put that to the vote all those 02:40:17.399 --> 02:40:20.000 in favor thank you I clear that Carriage 02:40:20.079 --> 02:40:23.280 unanimously thank 02:40:34.440 --> 02:40:39.120 you item 9.2 is The Granary Lane toilet 02:40:39.200 --> 02:40:41.440 demolition councilors we have a motion 02:40:41.520 --> 02:40:43.079 on the screen do we have a 02:40:43.159 --> 02:40:45.479 mover councelor Hill and seconded 02:40:45.559 --> 02:40:49.559 councelor Davies councelor Hill 02:40:49.639 --> 02:40:52.920 thank you mayor JDB look the the 02:40:53.000 --> 02:40:54.520 reason for the amendment that's on the 02:40:54.600 --> 02:40:56.319 screen is the addition of three 02:40:56.399 --> 02:41:00.840 additional dot points and there is 02:41:00.920 --> 02:41:02.760 like I just wanted to say I acknowledge 02:41:02.840 --> 02:41:04.440 that there's quite a Community 02:41:04.520 --> 02:41:06.360 Connection not necessarily to the 02:41:06.440 --> 02:41:08.959 building as much as the Mosaic artwork 02:41:09.040 --> 02:41:11.479 around the building the reason this 02:41:11.559 --> 02:41:15.239 is before us however is advice that 02:41:15.319 --> 02:41:18.079 really I think dates back the original 02:41:18.159 --> 02:41:20.120 notice of motion regarding this block 02:41:20.200 --> 02:41:23.840 dates back 7 years it's fair to say 02:41:23.920 --> 02:41:26.639 that the building is in far worse 02:41:26.719 --> 02:41:28.360 condition than it was seven years ago to 02:41:28.440 --> 02:41:31.079 the point that it's no longer safe 02:41:31.159 --> 02:41:32.719 Council needs to make a decision whether 02:41:32.799 --> 02:41:35.760 to invest significant money into somehow 02:41:35.840 --> 02:41:39.079 trying to resolve the building 02:41:39.159 --> 02:41:42.479 knowing well that it will very unlikely 02:41:42.559 --> 02:41:46.200 ever act as a toilet facility again 02:41:46.280 --> 02:41:48.719 or alternatively follow the officer 02:41:48.799 --> 02:41:51.399 advice which is to to to demolish the 02:41:51.479 --> 02:41:54.399 building there already was some 02:41:54.479 --> 02:41:57.159 information in the report with regards 02:41:57.239 --> 02:41:58.680 to 02:41:58.760 --> 02:42:03.040 the the artwork itself and and 02:42:03.120 --> 02:42:06.040 taking a digital record of the artwork 02:42:06.120 --> 02:42:08.600 and all I've done here is really 02:42:08.680 --> 02:42:10.719 flesh out some things that were in the 02:42:10.799 --> 02:42:12.280 report but some things that have already 02:42:12.360 --> 02:42:15.479 been also been discussed between myself 02:42:15.559 --> 02:42:17.760 and others other counselors at officer 02:42:17.840 --> 02:42:21.399 level one of them is to note that the 02:42:21.479 --> 02:42:24.159 there's a lot of discussion around 02:42:24.239 --> 02:42:27.959 public toilet facilities in in 02:42:28.040 --> 02:42:31.239 Menton and it's fair to say that since 02:42:31.319 --> 02:42:34.159 this was decommissioned as a as a 02:42:34.239 --> 02:42:35.040 public 02:42:35.120 --> 02:42:37.559 toilet there was a introduction of a new 02:42:37.639 --> 02:42:39.399 toilet at Florence Street that really 02:42:39.479 --> 02:42:42.319 hasn't really been fit for purpose 02:42:42.399 --> 02:42:44.719 it's like it is functioning but I think 02:42:44.799 --> 02:42:46.600 we do acknowledge that we need an 02:42:46.680 --> 02:42:49.319 improved facility so hence do point 02:42:49.399 --> 02:42:51.799 three there's also quite a lot of 02:42:51.879 --> 02:42:53.600 discussion around the need for a toilet 02:42:53.680 --> 02:42:56.680 at public toilet at Keith style so 02:42:56.760 --> 02:43:00.600 hence point2 and then do.3 as I say 02:43:00.680 --> 02:43:02.639 is just a note around the artwork and 02:43:02.719 --> 02:43:04.840 really wanting to activate the site of 02:43:04.920 --> 02:43:06.760 the toilet with a recognition of the 02:43:06.840 --> 02:43:09.600 artwork in place as well so that's all 02:43:09.680 --> 02:43:11.639 thank you thank you very much councelor 02:43:11.719 --> 02:43:14.479 Hill councelor 02:43:15.000 --> 02:43:19.040 Davies your reserve thank you any other 02:43:19.120 --> 02:43:22.440 council is wishing to debate this 02:43:25.840 --> 02:43:28.559 motion Council H do you wish to close no 02:43:28.639 --> 02:43:30.319 councils I'll put the item to the vote 02:43:30.399 --> 02:43:31.879 ask all those in favor to please raise 02:43:31.959 --> 02:43:34.000 your 02:43:34.079 --> 02:43:36.879 hand I declare that carried unanimously 02:43:36.959 --> 02:43:39.520 thank you the next item is 9.4 the new 02:43:39.600 --> 02:43:41.120 Aquatic and Leisure Center facility 02:43:41.200 --> 02:43:43.639 naming 02:43:44.680 --> 02:43:47.159 consultation oh sorry correct thank you 02:43:47.239 --> 02:43:49.040 Council Eden I do appreciate your assist 02:43:49.120 --> 02:43:52.040 since there my apologies 9.3 the award 02:43:52.120 --> 02:43:54.680 of contract recycling processing 02:43:54.760 --> 02:43:57.040 services councilors do we have a 02:43:57.120 --> 02:43:59.200 motion you'd like to move that councelor 02:43:59.280 --> 02:44:01.000 Eden and second that councelor Davies 02:44:01.079 --> 02:44:03.319 thank you councelor 02:44:03.399 --> 02:44:05.959 Eden the report is self-explanatory 02:44:06.040 --> 02:44:07.840 so I'd refer council's to the report 02:44:07.920 --> 02:44:10.159 thank you thank you councelor Eden 02:44:10.239 --> 02:44:11.159 councelor 02:44:11.239 --> 02:44:13.559 Davies Reserve any other councelor 02:44:13.639 --> 02:44:16.360 wishing to debate the 02:44:16.440 --> 02:44:19.120 motion councelor Eden you need to close 02:44:19.200 --> 02:44:20.559 I'll put the item to the vote I'll ask 02:44:20.639 --> 02:44:22.440 all those in 02:44:22.520 --> 02:44:26.680 favor thank you I declare that carried 02:44:27.239 --> 02:44:30.000 unanimously we will now move to 9.4 the 02:44:30.079 --> 02:44:31.959 new Aquatic and Leisure Center facility 02:44:32.040 --> 02:44:33.040 naming 02:44:33.120 --> 02:44:35.360 consultation councelor Davies would you 02:44:35.440 --> 02:44:36.840 like to move the recommendation as it 02:44:36.920 --> 02:44:38.600 appears on the 02:44:38.680 --> 02:44:41.399 screen yes thank you do we have a 02:44:41.479 --> 02:44:43.840 seconder thank you councelor Eden 02:44:43.920 --> 02:44:44.840 councelor 02:44:44.920 --> 02:44:47.360 Davies I'm just going to SP talk briefly 02:44:47.440 --> 02:44:49.639 given the time I think we're all very 02:44:49.719 --> 02:44:51.319 much aware of this project because we've 02:44:51.399 --> 02:44:52.840 all been heavily involved in it for the 02:44:52.920 --> 02:44:55.120 entire time that we've been on Council 02:44:55.200 --> 02:44:57.079 we have five names that are 02:44:57.159 --> 02:45:00.040 shortlisted which basically came from 02:45:00.120 --> 02:45:02.879 discussions amongst our amazing 02:45:02.959 --> 02:45:05.159 Community groups the community reference 02:45:05.239 --> 02:45:06.760 group we have our pool group we have our 02:45:06.840 --> 02:45:08.680 counselors we've looked at all of these 02:45:08.760 --> 02:45:11.799 names every single name does include 02:45:11.879 --> 02:45:14.520 an indigenous name we all have our 02:45:14.600 --> 02:45:16.920 favorites I won't say mine out loud 02:45:17.000 --> 02:45:18.200 because we're going to send it out to 02:45:18.280 --> 02:45:20.079 consultation and see what people have to 02:45:20.159 --> 02:45:24.760 say but I will make one comment that 02:45:24.840 --> 02:45:29.360 b m is pronounced bom so if we can say 02:45:29.440 --> 02:45:31.840 bom instead of Bam that would be 02:45:31.920 --> 02:45:33.799 great but this will go out and I'm 02:45:33.879 --> 02:45:35.840 really really interested in the sort of 02:45:35.920 --> 02:45:39.040 feedback we're going to get and I 02:45:39.120 --> 02:45:41.360 suppose we'll move on to logos next but 02:45:41.440 --> 02:45:44.280 name first thank you thank you councelor 02:45:44.360 --> 02:45:46.280 Davies councelor 02:45:46.360 --> 02:45:48.879 Eden thank you that was a great s 02:45:48.959 --> 02:45:50.559 Maran I don't believe there's anything 02:45:50.639 --> 02:45:52.799 productive to add at this stage thank 02:45:52.879 --> 02:45:54.920 you thank you would any other councilors 02:45:55.000 --> 02:45:56.959 like to debate this 02:45:57.040 --> 02:45:59.000 motion councelor Davies would you like 02:45:59.079 --> 02:46:01.120 to close I'll put the item to the vote 02:46:01.200 --> 02:46:02.239 all those in 02:46:02.319 --> 02:46:05.959 favor I declare that carried 02:46:06.040 --> 02:46:09.000 unanimously item 10.1 our road map 02:46:09.079 --> 02:46:11.639 council plan 4year annual action plan 02:46:11.719 --> 02:46:14.680 2024 25 02:46:14.760 --> 02:46:17.159 final councelors do we have a 02:46:17.239 --> 02:46:19.959 motion councelor dve as it appears on 02:46:20.040 --> 02:46:22.719 the screen thank you a 02:46:22.799 --> 02:46:25.440 seconder councelor Eden thank 02:46:25.520 --> 02:46:27.600 you councelor 02:46:27.680 --> 02:46:30.559 Davies Reserve great thank you councelor 02:46:30.639 --> 02:46:34.440 Eden Reserve any debate 02:46:34.520 --> 02:46:36.879 required councilors I'll put the item to 02:46:36.959 --> 02:46:39.719 the vote all those in favor I declare 02:46:39.799 --> 02:46:43.159 that carried unanimously thank 02:46:46.719 --> 02:46:50.239 you item 10.2 is the performance report 02:46:50.319 --> 02:46:52.559 council plan year 3 quarter 3 January to 02:46:52.639 --> 02:46:55.000 March 02:46:55.079 --> 02:46:58.399 2024 thank you counselor 02:46:58.479 --> 02:47:01.360 Eden as it appears on the 02:47:01.440 --> 02:47:04.600 screen we have a second of 02:47:04.680 --> 02:47:07.840 counselors councelor 02:47:07.920 --> 02:47:10.520 sa councelor 02:47:10.600 --> 02:47:14.239 Eden thank you counselor 02:47:14.319 --> 02:47:16.799 sa thank you does this item require 02:47:16.879 --> 02:47:19.280 debate 02:47:19.360 --> 02:47:20.799 I'll put the item to the vote all those 02:47:20.879 --> 02:47:22.040 in 02:47:22.120 --> 02:47:24.120 favor I'll declare that carried 02:47:24.200 --> 02:47:27.280 unanimously thank 02:47:27.559 --> 02:47:31.280 you the next item is 10.3 the governance 02:47:31.360 --> 02:47:33.639 and compliance 02:47:33.719 --> 02:47:36.799 report we have an amended motion on the 02:47:36.879 --> 02:47:39.680 screen there do we have a move and a 02:47:39.760 --> 02:47:42.200 second to 02:47:42.280 --> 02:47:44.520 counselors counselor s if you'd like to 02:47:44.600 --> 02:47:46.479 move as it appears on the 02:47:46.559 --> 02:47:50.559 screen great 02:47:51.920 --> 02:47:55.159 we need a second councilor Beasley thank 02:47:55.239 --> 02:47:58.879 you Council s I'll just speak briefly to 02:47:58.959 --> 02:48:01.399 this particular report this is almost 02:48:01.479 --> 02:48:03.000 a consolidation of different governance 02:48:03.079 --> 02:48:04.319 matters that comes to council that 02:48:04.399 --> 02:48:05.959 requires a bit of changes or there might 02:48:06.040 --> 02:48:07.520 have been something that's happened in a 02:48:07.600 --> 02:48:09.040 particular contract and that's why 02:48:09.120 --> 02:48:10.440 it's being brought forward to council 02:48:10.520 --> 02:48:12.159 it's a regular standing item that we've 02:48:12.239 --> 02:48:14.680 got now that I think is it's a really 02:48:14.760 --> 02:48:16.360 good one actually it's able to 02:48:16.440 --> 02:48:17.879 consolidate issues that may have taken a 02:48:17.959 --> 02:48:19.719 little bit longer so I'm really 02:48:19.799 --> 02:48:20.840 supportive of the way that this is 02:48:20.920 --> 02:48:22.920 particularly presented there are a 02:48:23.000 --> 02:48:25.559 few items that we are proposing in this 02:48:25.639 --> 02:48:27.680 one is the approval of a contract for 02:48:27.760 --> 02:48:30.280 the accessible pedestrian ramp and 02:48:30.360 --> 02:48:33.319 foreshore solo lights that's at the 02:48:33.399 --> 02:48:35.440 Parkdale Yacht Club which will be a 02:48:35.520 --> 02:48:36.840 fantastic addition The excesso 02:48:36.920 --> 02:48:40.200 Pedestrian ramp there it is currently 02:48:40.280 --> 02:48:43.360 on a very steep ramp but they still 02:48:43.440 --> 02:48:45.559 manag to use it but I do know some 02:48:45.639 --> 02:48:47.520 who are unable to actually have to 02:48:47.600 --> 02:48:49.200 travel much further down the for 02:48:49.280 --> 02:48:51.000 get there so that is a fantastic 02:48:51.079 --> 02:48:53.520 addition also just to acknowledge 02:48:53.600 --> 02:48:55.479 that the minutes from the audit and risk 02:48:55.559 --> 02:48:56.920 committee meeting which is a fantastic 02:48:57.000 --> 02:48:58.159 committee that really does give you a 02:48:58.239 --> 02:49:01.159 highlight onto what council reviews 02:49:01.239 --> 02:49:03.159 in their processes it's really 02:49:03.239 --> 02:49:05.120 insightful so anyone who's a bit of 02:49:05.200 --> 02:49:07.440 an audit or risk nerd I I really highly 02:49:07.520 --> 02:49:09.639 recommend you have a look at that and 02:49:09.719 --> 02:49:11.959 the other point that I just wanted to 02:49:12.040 --> 02:49:14.120 refer to is item three and four and that 02:49:14.200 --> 02:49:16.200 is the resignation of council stos as 02:49:16.280 --> 02:49:17.920 the Delegate for the municipal 02:49:18.000 --> 02:49:20.680 Association of Victoria and 02:49:20.760 --> 02:49:22.479 through discussions with the mayor who 02:49:22.559 --> 02:49:24.639 has gracely graciously given me the 02:49:24.719 --> 02:49:27.399 opportunity to be the Delegate for 02:49:27.479 --> 02:49:30.280 our Council on the MAV as Council 02:49:30.360 --> 02:49:33.440 take our steps away so I I just 02:49:33.520 --> 02:49:35.040 wanted to highlight that that's kind of 02:49:35.120 --> 02:49:37.360 a governance process that we have to 02:49:37.440 --> 02:49:40.079 go through so that we can get to that 02:49:40.159 --> 02:49:43.280 but I I do just commend all of these 02:49:43.360 --> 02:49:47.120 different items to to my counselor 02:49:47.200 --> 02:49:49.600 colleagues thank you thank thank you 02:49:49.680 --> 02:49:53.280 Council Council 02:49:53.520 --> 02:49:56.920 basley thank you mayor JDB I'd just 02:49:57.000 --> 02:49:59.159 like to point out with this there it is 02:49:59.239 --> 02:50:01.520 miscellaneous there's quite a number of 02:50:01.600 --> 02:50:04.239 different pieces to to this report 02:50:04.319 --> 02:50:09.440 that we will be moving tonight and 02:50:09.520 --> 02:50:12.959 and it's very similar to what the state 02:50:13.040 --> 02:50:16.719 government do when they do 02:50:16.799 --> 02:50:19.920 miscellaneous Amendment bills so it's 02:50:20.000 --> 02:50:23.840 very similar to that so you know 02:50:23.920 --> 02:50:24.959 further down the track when we're 02:50:25.040 --> 02:50:27.399 looking at on block that is a same ring 02:50:27.479 --> 02:50:29.719 to it really I this one's a report that 02:50:29.799 --> 02:50:32.600 includes them all but if we then put a 02:50:32.680 --> 02:50:35.120 number of reports together but as 02:50:35.200 --> 02:50:38.440 councelor Sab demonstrated this 02:50:38.520 --> 02:50:41.479 evening you can talk to each point 02:50:41.559 --> 02:50:43.920 which I think is is similar in terms of 02:50:44.000 --> 02:50:46.680 producing good governance it is a 02:50:46.760 --> 02:50:49.120 concise way of bringing a few matters 02:50:49.200 --> 02:50:52.159 together and it's done in in other 02:50:52.239 --> 02:50:55.799 forms of decision making as well 02:50:55.879 --> 02:50:57.200 in our with our state and federal 02:50:57.280 --> 02:50:58.719 colleagu so I'm just pointing that out 02:50:58.799 --> 02:51:01.600 thank you thank you councelor 02:51:01.680 --> 02:51:03.799 Bley councilor 02:51:03.879 --> 02:51:06.799 Oxley thank you just on that point 02:51:06.879 --> 02:51:09.559 I'd just ask that at a future briefing 02:51:09.639 --> 02:51:12.159 session or something along those lines 02:51:12.239 --> 02:51:14.280 I I note that the governance and 02:51:14.360 --> 02:51:16.079 compliance report is a relatively new 02:51:16.159 --> 02:51:19.319 report where we do sort of put all of 02:51:19.399 --> 02:51:21.200 these different reports together of 02:51:21.280 --> 02:51:22.440 whether we can have it a further 02:51:22.520 --> 02:51:25.120 briefing a discussion around or 02:51:25.200 --> 02:51:26.879 potentially developing some protocols 02:51:26.959 --> 02:51:28.559 around the types of items that are 02:51:28.639 --> 02:51:30.840 listed in this report so that we can be 02:51:30.920 --> 02:51:32.799 very clear on the types of things we're 02:51:32.879 --> 02:51:34.600 happy essentially putting in a block 02:51:34.680 --> 02:51:35.799 motion because that's basically what 02:51:35.879 --> 02:51:38.399 this is and the types of things we're 02:51:38.479 --> 02:51:40.120 not because there'd certainly be some 02:51:40.200 --> 02:51:42.639 things that I've seen in the past I'm a 02:51:42.719 --> 02:51:45.479 little bit uncomfortable with being in a 02:51:45.559 --> 02:51:48.959 block sort of motion and some things 02:51:49.040 --> 02:51:51.520 I'm very happy to have a sort of a a 02:51:51.600 --> 02:51:53.200 widely considered one with multiple 02:51:53.280 --> 02:51:55.719 Parts contracts are one I'm a little 02:51:55.799 --> 02:51:58.879 bit uncomfortable with but perhaps that 02:51:58.959 --> 02:52:01.040 could be explored further just around 02:52:01.120 --> 02:52:03.360 further detail perhaps in this report 02:52:03.440 --> 02:52:06.000 that doesn't necessarily necessitate I 02:52:06.079 --> 02:52:08.079 suppose the need for an entire report 02:52:08.159 --> 02:52:09.959 being written on a contract but just 02:52:10.040 --> 02:52:11.799 further detail or those types of things 02:52:11.879 --> 02:52:13.280 so I think that would be something just 02:52:13.360 --> 02:52:14.719 prudent to 02:52:14.799 --> 02:52:17.079 consider thank you Council Oxley any 02:52:17.159 --> 02:52:20.920 other council is wishing to debate this 02:52:21.000 --> 02:52:23.200 motion councilor Ser do you require a 02:52:23.280 --> 02:52:25.120 close no we'll put this item to the vote 02:52:25.200 --> 02:52:27.399 all those in 02:52:27.479 --> 02:52:29.319 favor I'll declare that carried 02:52:29.399 --> 02:52:32.799 unanimously thank you item 10.4 response 02:52:32.879 --> 02:52:35.479 to resolution counselor postions and key 02:52:35.559 --> 02:52:37.680 performance 02:52:37.760 --> 02:52:40.000 indicators councilors do we have a 02:52:40.079 --> 02:52:44.600 motion Council Oxley thank you I do have 02:52:44.680 --> 02:52:46.520 an amended motion that I would seek to 02:52:46.600 --> 02:52:49.440 move and it is with an amended 02:52:49.520 --> 02:52:53.440 2 that I will read it's not that 02:52:53.520 --> 02:52:56.760 longly just one 02:52:56.840 --> 02:53:00.879 moment it's basically a new point 02:53:01.440 --> 02:53:04.079 two and that will read defer the 02:53:04.159 --> 02:53:07.040 consideration 02:53:08.200 --> 02:53:12.239 of the key performance 02:53:14.040 --> 02:53:19.120 indicators until such time as 02:53:19.360 --> 02:53:22.879 performance indicators can be 02:53:27.520 --> 02:53:31.600 developed that more wholly 02:53:33.360 --> 02:53:37.159 Encompass the feedback 02:53:37.639 --> 02:53:41.799 provided by the representative 02:53:42.520 --> 02:53:46.040 panel in regards 02:53:46.120 --> 02:53:50.440 to outcomes and deliverables 02:53:51.559 --> 02:53:54.559 rather than simply 02:53:57.159 --> 02:54:01.520 attendance councel Oxley do we have a 02:54:01.799 --> 02:54:04.280 second councelor Eden thank you 02:54:04.360 --> 02:54:07.079 councelor Oxley thank you the reason why 02:54:07.159 --> 02:54:10.840 I have moved deferral of point two 02:54:10.920 --> 02:54:12.639 which are the key performance indicators 02:54:12.719 --> 02:54:15.319 for counselors is in reading through 02:54:15.399 --> 02:54:18.639 this and I I very much put a residence 02:54:18.719 --> 02:54:22.879 lend over reading this in terms of what 02:54:22.959 --> 02:54:24.440 are actually the key performance 02:54:24.520 --> 02:54:27.399 indicators that I as a resident or a 02:54:27.479 --> 02:54:30.280 voter or whatever you'd like to say rate 02:54:30.360 --> 02:54:32.959 payer what is it that I would want from 02:54:33.040 --> 02:54:35.840 my counselor when I'm talking about key 02:54:35.920 --> 02:54:38.000 performance indicators and what we 02:54:38.079 --> 02:54:39.479 currently see 02:54:39.559 --> 02:54:42.079 are the percentage of council decisions 02:54:42.159 --> 02:54:44.760 actively participated in number of 02:54:44.840 --> 02:54:47.280 council briefing sessions number of 02:54:47.360 --> 02:54:48.680 council committee meeting meetings that 02:54:48.760 --> 02:54:50.000 the council has appointed to their 02:54:50.079 --> 02:54:51.959 attendance rate their attendance rate of 02:54:52.040 --> 02:54:53.879 briefings and workshops their attendance 02:54:53.959 --> 02:54:56.079 rate of briefings and workshops to 02:54:56.159 --> 02:54:57.879 contribute to the Community Vision 02:54:57.959 --> 02:55:00.440 they're all attendance 02:55:00.520 --> 02:55:03.799 rate and quite frankly if I was 02:55:03.879 --> 02:55:05.559 measuring a staff 02:55:05.639 --> 02:55:08.040 member not necessarily here at the city 02:55:08.120 --> 02:55:09.959 of Kingston but if I was measuring a 02:55:10.040 --> 02:55:11.520 staff member at any 02:55:11.600 --> 02:55:14.559 organization simply saying good on you 02:55:14.639 --> 02:55:16.440 you showed 02:55:16.520 --> 02:55:20.000 up is not good 02:55:20.079 --> 02:55:22.879 performance now granted every 4 years 02:55:22.959 --> 02:55:24.879 our community measure our performance on 02:55:24.959 --> 02:55:28.239 whether they'd like to vote Us in 02:55:28.319 --> 02:55:31.440 again perhaps 4 years is too long 02:55:31.520 --> 02:55:33.920 perhaps it's not long enough I I I don't 02:55:34.000 --> 02:55:35.479 know but that's the election cycle 02:55:35.559 --> 02:55:37.399 that's set but if we're going to go down 02:55:37.479 --> 02:55:40.600 the path of putting in key performance 02:55:40.680 --> 02:55:44.799 indicators that outline at the top they 02:55:44.879 --> 02:55:46.840 utilized as a reference tool to indicate 02:55:46.920 --> 02:55:48.600 performance expectations of the role of 02:55:48.680 --> 02:55:51.600 a counselor under the Local Government 02:55:51.680 --> 02:55:54.559 Act I took my role a little bit 02:55:54.639 --> 02:55:57.799 differently as just it's not just 02:55:57.879 --> 02:55:59.280 turning 02:55:59.360 --> 02:56:02.360 up it's actually delivering for the 02:56:02.440 --> 02:56:04.520 community delivering outcomes that the 02:56:04.600 --> 02:56:06.639 community expect and I specifically 02:56:06.719 --> 02:56:09.360 pointed to in point two the consultation 02:56:09.440 --> 02:56:11.239 that we did with the representative 02:56:11.319 --> 02:56:13.360 panel because the consultation that we 02:56:13.440 --> 02:56:15.239 did with the representative panel is 02:56:15.319 --> 02:56:16.920 located in the agenda in one of the 02:56:17.000 --> 02:56:19.200 appendices that actually goes through 02:56:19.280 --> 02:56:20.639 the types of things that our community 02:56:20.719 --> 02:56:22.200 expect of us as 02:56:22.280 --> 02:56:25.200 counselors and to me if we are going to 02:56:25.280 --> 02:56:27.520 adopt key performance 02:56:27.600 --> 02:56:30.559 indicators that really only Encompass to 02:56:30.639 --> 02:56:33.639 me one or two of the things that said as 02:56:33.719 --> 02:56:37.600 one idea of a measure for success of 02:56:38.040 --> 02:56:40.360 counselors that's not our role as a 02:56:40.440 --> 02:56:43.680 counselor our role as a counselor is to 02:56:43.760 --> 02:56:46.559 deliver to deliver outcomes for the 02:56:46.639 --> 02:56:49.040 community to deliver budgets for the 02:56:49.120 --> 02:56:50.840 community to deliver services for the 02:56:50.920 --> 02:56:53.120 community to advocate for projects for 02:56:53.200 --> 02:56:58.680 the community to be their voice at this 02:56:58.760 --> 02:57:01.879 table but right now we're saying it is 02:57:01.959 --> 02:57:04.600 okay all you have to do is turn 02:57:04.680 --> 02:57:07.760 up and that's not a good message to 02:57:07.840 --> 02:57:11.600 send when we set kpis for our 02:57:11.680 --> 02:57:14.840 CEO we go through those our CEO goes 02:57:14.920 --> 02:57:17.440 through those it is a very long process 02:57:17.520 --> 02:57:20.840 to set those kpis and those kpis mean 02:57:20.920 --> 02:57:24.040 that our CEO must deliver and he must 02:57:24.120 --> 02:57:26.079 deliver on particular things and key 02:57:26.159 --> 02:57:27.920 performance areas that we ask him to 02:57:28.000 --> 02:57:29.959 deliver on based on what we hear from 02:57:30.040 --> 02:57:31.399 the 02:57:31.479 --> 02:57:33.280 community but the message that we're 02:57:33.360 --> 02:57:35.120 sending is if we put this through 02:57:35.200 --> 02:57:37.600 tonight without further consideration 02:57:37.680 --> 02:57:38.719 you don't actually have to do that 02:57:38.799 --> 02:57:41.360 counselors all you've got to do is turn 02:57:41.440 --> 02:57:45.200 up that seems very strange to me and it 02:57:45.280 --> 02:57:46.760 doesn't seem like that would be what the 02:57:46.840 --> 02:57:49.440 community would be asking asking of us 02:57:49.520 --> 02:57:50.879 and they made that actually very clear 02:57:50.959 --> 02:57:52.200 in the consultation we did with the 02:57:52.280 --> 02:57:54.520 representative panel so I think we need 02:57:54.600 --> 02:57:56.760 to go back to the drawing board we need 02:57:56.840 --> 02:57:59.000 to seriously consider what our role as a 02:57:59.079 --> 02:58:02.120 counselor is around this table because 02:58:02.200 --> 02:58:05.200 it is not just turning up to things it 02:58:05.280 --> 02:58:07.920 is actually delivering for the 02:58:08.000 --> 02:58:10.040 community so we do need to go back to 02:58:10.120 --> 02:58:12.159 the drawing 02:58:12.239 --> 02:58:14.600 board thank you councelor Oxley 02:58:14.680 --> 02:58:18.079 councelor Aiden 02:58:20.079 --> 02:58:22.159 yes thank you Madame mayor and I 02:58:22.239 --> 02:58:23.440 think Council roxley has probably 02:58:23.520 --> 02:58:27.360 smarized it at a very high level 02:58:27.440 --> 02:58:30.360 quite effectively and it's a shame that 02:58:30.440 --> 02:58:32.200 The Counselor who kicked off this 02:58:32.280 --> 02:58:33.879 whole proposal isn't here with us 02:58:33.959 --> 02:58:37.440 tonight to discuss it a bit further 02:58:37.520 --> 02:58:39.360 but that is okay and I think deferring 02:58:39.440 --> 02:58:41.360 it gives us the ability to potentially 02:58:41.440 --> 02:58:44.040 hear more from counselors about what 02:58:44.120 --> 02:58:46.200 they actually see 02:58:46.280 --> 02:58:49.440 as their key 02:58:49.520 --> 02:58:51.319 responsibilities and it's interesting to 02:58:51.399 --> 02:58:54.879 have a look through what has been 02:58:54.959 --> 02:58:57.120 proposed and the first page again is 02:58:57.200 --> 02:58:59.239 pretty much all about 02:58:59.319 --> 02:59:01.799 attendance and then you move on to 02:59:01.879 --> 02:59:03.680 things like personal interest returns 02:59:03.760 --> 02:59:05.319 are submitted within the statutory 02:59:05.399 --> 02:59:08.040 deadline counselor and staff interaction 02:59:08.120 --> 02:59:10.600 policy is adhered to working with 02:59:10.680 --> 02:59:14.440 children check etc etc it's interesting 02:59:14.520 --> 02:59:16.520 that the counselor and staff interaction 02:59:16.600 --> 02:59:19.040 policy is adhered to is a 02:59:19.120 --> 02:59:23.079 kpi but there is no kpi around the 02:59:23.159 --> 02:59:25.000 number of complaints a counselor may 02:59:25.079 --> 02:59:26.680 have been subjected to by other 02:59:26.760 --> 02:59:29.000 counselors so I do question whether or 02:59:29.079 --> 02:59:31.920 not there is less regard for the way 02:59:32.000 --> 02:59:33.639 in which counselors conduct themselves 02:59:33.719 --> 02:59:35.239 towards others given that we're only 02:59:35.319 --> 02:59:36.799 going to be measuring how they 02:59:36.879 --> 02:59:39.520 interact with staff and I think that is 02:59:39.600 --> 02:59:41.799 particularly pertinent and that has 02:59:41.879 --> 02:59:43.559 come to light is probably a bit of an 02:59:43.639 --> 02:59:46.200 issue that needs to be addressed in 02:59:46.280 --> 02:59:49.399 any future Council around a kpi 02:59:49.479 --> 02:59:52.399 specifically on whether or not a council 02:59:52.479 --> 02:59:54.920 has potentially cost the council 02:59:55.000 --> 02:59:58.120 money in terms of responding to or 02:59:58.200 --> 03:00:00.639 investigating or getting legal advice on 03:00:00.719 --> 03:00:03.200 potential misconduct or bullying I 03:00:03.280 --> 03:00:04.719 think that's probably a kpi that should 03:00:04.799 --> 03:00:07.959 be in there but I also think the kpis 03:00:08.040 --> 03:00:11.840 should be extended to staying true to 03:00:11.920 --> 03:00:14.319 what they' promised to their Community 03:00:14.399 --> 03:00:16.319 in terms of are they doing what they 03:00:16.399 --> 03:00:18.840 said they would do in terms of 03:00:18.920 --> 03:00:20.319 commitments because it's all good and 03:00:20.399 --> 03:00:22.120 well to say you're going to get on the 03:00:22.200 --> 03:00:23.559 council and Shake It Up and you're going 03:00:23.639 --> 03:00:26.440 to deliver 101 projects and then all the 03:00:26.520 --> 03:00:28.360 votes come through and you do the exact 03:00:28.440 --> 03:00:30.559 opposite you do an about face and all 03:00:30.639 --> 03:00:32.879 the values that you said you would 03:00:32.959 --> 03:00:35.280 represent the community you said you'd 03:00:35.360 --> 03:00:37.639 represent don't have an effective 03:00:37.719 --> 03:00:41.079 voice but when it comes 03:00:41.159 --> 03:00:45.200 to having briefings when it comes to 03:00:45.280 --> 03:00:47.159 and I know it's a particular issue 03:00:47.239 --> 03:00:49.840 that's often picked up in the media 03:00:49.920 --> 03:00:51.799 councilors getting drunk in Council 03:00:51.879 --> 03:00:55.680 meetings post counil drinky 03:00:55.760 --> 03:00:58.600 sessions Etc they might get a gold star 03:00:58.680 --> 03:01:00.600 for all of those things because they're 03:01:00.680 --> 03:01:03.280 there but what does the community say at 03:01:03.360 --> 03:01:06.319 the end about the counselor do they say 03:01:06.399 --> 03:01:08.120 that guy got a lot done that woman got a 03:01:08.200 --> 03:01:12.000 lot done that person got a lot done or I 03:01:12.079 --> 03:01:13.399 saw them every day of the week but they 03:01:13.479 --> 03:01:16.040 were down just you know consing 03:01:16.120 --> 03:01:17.840 Council food and they're at every 03:01:17.920 --> 03:01:19.280 refunction but they didn't really do 03:01:19.360 --> 03:01:21.680 much we don't really know what they did 03:01:21.760 --> 03:01:23.360 and I think that question needs to be 03:01:23.440 --> 03:01:25.920 addressed is a council's legacy the 03:01:26.000 --> 03:01:28.159 number of meetings their name appears in 03:01:28.239 --> 03:01:31.040 or the outcomes that they deliver thank 03:01:31.120 --> 03:01:33.680 you thank you very much councilor Eden 03:01:33.760 --> 03:01:35.319 what any other councilors like to debate 03:01:35.399 --> 03:01:37.639 the motion councelor 03:01:37.719 --> 03:01:40.600 how thank you and you could meet every 03:01:40.680 --> 03:01:43.239 single kpi set by the bureaucrats in 03:01:43.319 --> 03:01:45.959 their particular report and you wouldn't 03:01:46.040 --> 03:01:48.120 necessarily get to continue in your role 03:01:48.200 --> 03:01:51.319 because ultimately Your Role is assessed 03:01:51.399 --> 03:01:54.360 by the people over here potentially they 03:01:54.440 --> 03:01:55.959 your role and your performance is 03:01:56.040 --> 03:01:58.559 assessed by voters either they like what 03:01:58.639 --> 03:02:00.319 you're saying or they don't it's one or 03:02:00.399 --> 03:02:04.200 the other and ultimately it comes back 03:02:04.280 --> 03:02:07.200 to getting goals on the football field 03:02:07.280 --> 03:02:08.559 you know you can turn up to the training 03:02:08.639 --> 03:02:09.879 sessions but you don't perform well on 03:02:09.959 --> 03:02:13.319 the football field so what so it does 03:02:13.399 --> 03:02:15.000 come back to Performance does come back 03:02:15.079 --> 03:02:17.520 to kicking goals getting outcomes and 03:02:17.600 --> 03:02:19.600 not all of them need to be tangible 03:02:19.680 --> 03:02:21.399 infrastructure outcomes either it might 03:02:21.479 --> 03:02:24.799 be policy but ultimately the platform 03:02:24.879 --> 03:02:27.120 that you took to the election previously 03:02:27.200 --> 03:02:29.440 is a platform you'll be measured against 03:02:29.520 --> 03:02:32.680 and that is a fair comment what we got 03:02:32.760 --> 03:02:36.639 before us to me is probably a bit out of 03:02:36.719 --> 03:02:38.559 place we are 03:02:38.639 --> 03:02:40.840 officials we're officially elected into 03:02:40.920 --> 03:02:42.799 the role we don't go to an 03:02:42.879 --> 03:02:45.799 employee contract and fill that out 03:02:45.879 --> 03:02:47.399 and sit down with the employer and go 03:02:47.479 --> 03:02:48.879 right 03:02:48.959 --> 03:02:51.239 this is what you to do son and off you 03:02:51.319 --> 03:02:53.319 go to the football field and then you 03:02:53.399 --> 03:02:55.719 kick it out in the fall all right that 03:02:55.799 --> 03:02:57.319 kid's not coming back to play football 03:02:57.399 --> 03:03:00.920 over again he's gone onto the bench the 03:03:01.000 --> 03:03:04.079 end right same deal here if you're the 03:03:04.159 --> 03:03:05.319 kid that's kicking the ball out in the 03:03:05.399 --> 03:03:08.280 fall no one's going to vote for you so 03:03:08.360 --> 03:03:10.639 you do have to perform you do have to 03:03:10.719 --> 03:03:12.639 communicate and it's not just about the 03:03:12.719 --> 03:03:14.280 meetings it's also about representing 03:03:14.360 --> 03:03:16.200 your community it's values taking an 03:03:16.280 --> 03:03:18.559 interest listening and doing your very 03:03:18.639 --> 03:03:20.680 best to work with what you've got in 03:03:20.760 --> 03:03:23.879 front of you and not everyone comes in 03:03:23.959 --> 03:03:26.159 that's got generally the same support as 03:03:26.239 --> 03:03:27.760 others but we just do the best we can 03:03:27.840 --> 03:03:29.479 with the time we've got and that's all 03:03:29.559 --> 03:03:32.239 you can do so I think this isn't 03:03:32.319 --> 03:03:34.239 overstep but you know if it gets 03:03:34.319 --> 03:03:36.000 deferred it gets deferred thanks for 03:03:36.079 --> 03:03:39.159 your time thank you councilor how any 03:03:39.239 --> 03:03:41.680 other councilors wishing to debate the 03:03:41.760 --> 03:03:44.520 motion councelor sa thank you madam 03:03:44.600 --> 03:03:47.000 mayor just really quickly to read off 03:03:47.079 --> 03:03:48.559 I'm I'm okay okay with deferring the 03:03:48.639 --> 03:03:50.440 item or the the recommendation although 03:03:50.520 --> 03:03:52.040 you know we deferred previously so that 03:03:52.120 --> 03:03:54.719 we could discuss this item but we we got 03:03:54.799 --> 03:03:56.479 to the meeting without having discussed 03:03:56.559 --> 03:03:57.840 this item for the councilors who wanted 03:03:57.920 --> 03:03:59.959 to defer it only to us to defer it again 03:04:00.040 --> 03:04:02.920 so I me it just seems a little bit 03:04:03.000 --> 03:04:05.959 out of kilter but just to read off 03:04:06.040 --> 03:04:08.559 some of the ideas that the panel had 03:04:08.639 --> 03:04:11.000 suggested the very first point on the 03:04:11.079 --> 03:04:13.280 very first sentence of the page actually 03:04:13.360 --> 03:04:16.520 reads out visibility and being connected 03:04:16.600 --> 03:04:19.559 to community and then it goes on to read 03:04:19.639 --> 03:04:21.680 attend Council events and Council 03:04:21.760 --> 03:04:24.159 meetings to be visible out and about in 03:04:24.239 --> 03:04:26.040 the community at local events shopping 03:04:26.120 --> 03:04:29.239 centers Etc making themselves available 03:04:29.319 --> 03:04:32.079 to con to constituents by participating 03:04:32.159 --> 03:04:34.319 in public events and fors putting a 03:04:34.399 --> 03:04:35.440 face to the 03:04:35.520 --> 03:04:38.239 name and it goes on I won't read all of 03:04:38.319 --> 03:04:41.000 the different items pretty clearly our 03:04:41.079 --> 03:04:42.479 community wants people to be out and 03:04:42.559 --> 03:04:43.959 about so they can actually go see who 03:04:44.040 --> 03:04:45.479 they are they can communicate to them so 03:04:45.559 --> 03:04:48.000 they can speak to them that's part of it 03:04:48.079 --> 03:04:49.559 I think what other counselors have 03:04:49.639 --> 03:04:50.840 discussed and what they're looking for 03:04:50.920 --> 03:04:53.120 is probably a more robust process 03:04:53.200 --> 03:04:55.360 fantastic I agree a more robust process 03:04:55.440 --> 03:04:57.200 that collects all of the feedback and 03:04:57.280 --> 03:04:58.680 all the performance indicators that 03:04:58.760 --> 03:05:00.000 demonstrates how you can be a good 03:05:00.079 --> 03:05:01.959 counselor I I don't object to some of 03:05:02.040 --> 03:05:03.399 the points that they raised it should be 03:05:03.479 --> 03:05:05.360 about you demonstrating you representing 03:05:05.440 --> 03:05:07.639 your community it should be about being 03:05:07.719 --> 03:05:10.000 present it should be about making sure 03:05:10.079 --> 03:05:11.280 that you're implementing policy and 03:05:11.360 --> 03:05:13.680 change let's do that why why do we need 03:05:13.760 --> 03:05:16.000 to defer when it's very clear this is 03:05:16.079 --> 03:05:18.360 what our community is calling for I mean 03:05:18.440 --> 03:05:20.600 you want to be able to if I was a 03:05:20.680 --> 03:05:23.479 resident and I was previously if I was 03:05:23.559 --> 03:05:24.600 walking down the street and I saw my 03:05:24.680 --> 03:05:25.799 counselor I have an issue with something 03:05:25.879 --> 03:05:27.280 on my street I'd love to be able to 03:05:27.360 --> 03:05:28.719 approach them and be able to talk to 03:05:28.799 --> 03:05:31.000 them about things another part that 03:05:31.079 --> 03:05:32.760 should be recognized and it was in this 03:05:32.840 --> 03:05:35.040 initial amount before we're deferring it 03:05:35.120 --> 03:05:37.319 was that people are accessible that they 03:05:37.399 --> 03:05:40.040 can be communicated that to that they 03:05:40.120 --> 03:05:42.000 can be reached out to that they can be 03:05:42.079 --> 03:05:44.440 responded to that's it's like the basics 03:05:44.520 --> 03:05:46.079 of of what it's calling for and that's 03:05:46.159 --> 03:05:47.440 what our community is asked for that's 03:05:47.520 --> 03:05:49.520 what the representative panel asked for 03:05:49.600 --> 03:05:51.120 I don't mind that we make it a more 03:05:51.200 --> 03:05:54.159 robust process I'm all for that I really 03:05:54.239 --> 03:05:56.120 am and I think that's what we should 03:05:56.200 --> 03:05:57.319 have been that's what the amendment 03:05:57.399 --> 03:05:58.520 should have been it shouldn't be to 03:05:58.600 --> 03:06:01.000 defer because we don't like the outcomes 03:06:01.079 --> 03:06:03.600 of where we've gotten to after 4 years 03:06:03.680 --> 03:06:05.360 if trying to represent our community it 03:06:05.440 --> 03:06:08.040 shouldn't be about that it should be 03:06:08.120 --> 03:06:10.799 about us representing our community 03:06:10.879 --> 03:06:12.719 doing what they asked us of us which is 03:06:12.799 --> 03:06:15.239 to be present and be available all of 03:06:15.319 --> 03:06:16.959 this talk and nonsense about drinks and 03:06:17.040 --> 03:06:19.000 food events but like it's just it's such 03:06:19.079 --> 03:06:20.360 a Sidetrack to what we're actually 03:06:20.440 --> 03:06:21.559 supposed to do it just seems so 03:06:21.639 --> 03:06:23.719 disingenuous to go down that whole 03:06:23.799 --> 03:06:26.239 Avenue it it also seems disingenuous to 03:06:26.319 --> 03:06:28.079 talk about not you know making sure that 03:06:28.159 --> 03:06:29.559 we're standing for our election like 03:06:29.639 --> 03:06:31.520 it's it's not about that we have people 03:06:31.600 --> 03:06:33.920 who raise issues they want to be listen 03:06:34.000 --> 03:06:36.280 to and they want to be heard and if 03:06:36.360 --> 03:06:38.239 people aren't contactable if people 03:06:38.319 --> 03:06:40.159 can't see the right people they can 03:06:40.239 --> 03:06:42.600 reach where are they going to go to for 03:06:42.680 --> 03:06:44.040 advice they need people in their Corner 03:06:44.120 --> 03:06:46.000 that's what it's calling for I'm I'm 03:06:46.079 --> 03:06:47.559 fine with deferring it I'm fine with 03:06:47.639 --> 03:06:48.600 where we've gotten to but really what 03:06:48.680 --> 03:06:50.120 you should be calling for is a more 03:06:50.200 --> 03:06:52.239 robust process not to further delay and 03:06:52.319 --> 03:06:53.719 defer these things cuz we're not happy 03:06:53.799 --> 03:06:55.959 with where we've landed thank you 03:06:56.040 --> 03:06:58.639 councelor sa any other councilors 03:06:58.719 --> 03:07:00.319 councelor 03:07:00.399 --> 03:07:04.479 Hill yeah thanks mayor J JDB look I I 03:07:04.559 --> 03:07:07.399 probably landed where Council s was 03:07:07.479 --> 03:07:09.680 landed I don't have a great issue with 03:07:09.760 --> 03:07:12.760 deferring this I don't have a great 03:07:12.840 --> 03:07:15.559 issue with looking at other sort of 03:07:15.639 --> 03:07:18.079 measures of of performance 03:07:18.159 --> 03:07:20.000 probably the only other point I did 03:07:20.079 --> 03:07:22.559 want to raise however it it may be that 03:07:22.639 --> 03:07:26.239 our performance isn't just about being 03:07:26.319 --> 03:07:30.000 present but it is about us being present 03:07:30.079 --> 03:07:31.559 so 03:07:31.639 --> 03:07:35.840 I I sort of speak to the point that 03:07:35.920 --> 03:07:39.520 maybe being present all the time doesn't 03:07:39.600 --> 03:07:42.040 automatically make us a good counselor 03:07:42.120 --> 03:07:43.639 but I question how good a counselor you 03:07:43.719 --> 03:07:45.319 can be if you're present none of the 03:07:45.399 --> 03:07:48.360 time so I I think think it's really 03:07:48.440 --> 03:07:50.680 important and that's out of respect not 03:07:50.760 --> 03:07:53.319 only to our community who elected us but 03:07:53.399 --> 03:07:57.840 to each other to our staff we debate 03:07:57.920 --> 03:08:01.639 really important things and often 03:08:01.719 --> 03:08:04.239 things that are very complex sometimes 03:08:04.319 --> 03:08:06.399 things not only can be covered off in 03:08:06.479 --> 03:08:09.239 the CIS they might take multiple 03:08:09.319 --> 03:08:11.399 workshops and and even then it might 03:08:11.479 --> 03:08:13.399 still require further 03:08:13.479 --> 03:08:16.360 discussion I think not to be present for 03:08:16.440 --> 03:08:18.040 that process 03:08:18.120 --> 03:08:22.680 and then to to maybe speak against 03:08:22.760 --> 03:08:25.559 someone who has it's not really that's 03:08:25.639 --> 03:08:28.600 not a really you know sort of respectful 03:08:28.680 --> 03:08:32.520 way to come at something so yeah as I 03:08:32.600 --> 03:08:35.319 say I I don't have an issue with this I 03:08:35.399 --> 03:08:37.559 I think you know certainly attendance is 03:08:37.639 --> 03:08:39.719 part of it I think it's a pretty 03:08:39.799 --> 03:08:41.159 important part of it that's what I 03:08:41.239 --> 03:08:43.239 certainly hear from people in the 03:08:43.319 --> 03:08:46.520 street that they do notice when we are 03:08:46.600 --> 03:08:47.920 present and we're not 03:08:48.000 --> 03:08:50.879 so I I certainly think that should 03:08:50.959 --> 03:08:53.159 continue to be a significant part of how 03:08:53.239 --> 03:08:54.879 we measure performance but of course 03:08:54.959 --> 03:08:56.559 there are other measures of performance 03:08:56.639 --> 03:08:58.559 as well so I'll leave it there thank 03:08:58.639 --> 03:09:02.600 you thank you councilor 03:09:04.680 --> 03:09:09.399 Hill any other counselors no councelor 03:09:09.479 --> 03:09:13.520 Bley thank you mayor JDB I'm happy to 03:09:13.600 --> 03:09:16.159 support a deferral because I think this 03:09:16.239 --> 03:09:19.719 is a good opportunity for us to 03:09:19.799 --> 03:09:24.200 really make this docent robust in 03:09:24.280 --> 03:09:26.000 terms of the position descriptions and 03:09:26.079 --> 03:09:29.079 what's expected it's a very big role and 03:09:29.159 --> 03:09:32.200 it's actually evolved over time in some 03:09:32.280 --> 03:09:34.399 ways I thought when we'd move to single 03:09:34.479 --> 03:09:37.200 Council awards that the work would 03:09:37.280 --> 03:09:40.239 reduce it's actually increased and I 03:09:40.319 --> 03:09:42.120 think it's really important that anyone 03:09:42.200 --> 03:09:44.719 who is currently considering what this 03:09:44.799 --> 03:09:48.239 role is that they're really aware of the 03:09:48.319 --> 03:09:50.440 what they're taking on how involved it 03:09:50.520 --> 03:09:53.200 is and how important it is to attend 03:09:53.280 --> 03:09:55.079 things so you've got a really good idea 03:09:55.159 --> 03:09:58.079 about what's going on because with the 03:09:58.159 --> 03:10:01.920 single Council Awards also comes the 03:10:02.000 --> 03:10:04.639 added responsibility of knowing a lot 03:10:04.719 --> 03:10:06.840 more about each Ward where we used to 03:10:06.920 --> 03:10:09.399 only need to know about a small section 03:10:09.479 --> 03:10:12.760 really of of council in terms of you 03:10:12.840 --> 03:10:14.680 know a third of the council really and 03:10:14.760 --> 03:10:16.159 and you just took advice from the other 03:10:16.239 --> 03:10:18.280 councilors on their sections in this way 03:10:18.360 --> 03:10:19.840 you've really got to step in and support 03:10:19.920 --> 03:10:22.959 other people and really delve into each 03:10:23.040 --> 03:10:25.360 and every issue it's taking a lot more 03:10:25.440 --> 03:10:27.600 research a lot more reading and I think 03:10:27.680 --> 03:10:31.600 it's really important that these are 03:10:31.680 --> 03:10:33.760 explained in the position description so 03:10:33.840 --> 03:10:36.440 that those people in our community who 03:10:36.520 --> 03:10:39.479 are stepping up to this role are not 03:10:39.559 --> 03:10:41.520 scared by it I don't want that at all 03:10:41.600 --> 03:10:43.799 it's been a it's a wonderful role to 03:10:43.879 --> 03:10:46.799 take on but I do think we need to give 03:10:46.879 --> 03:10:47.799 them a 03:10:47.879 --> 03:10:49.559 as good or understanding as possible 03:10:49.639 --> 03:10:51.399 about what's going to be expected over 03:10:51.479 --> 03:10:54.559 four years and as I said the roles 03:10:54.639 --> 03:10:57.719 evolved since I became a counselor so I 03:10:57.799 --> 03:11:00.079 think it's this is where we can get it 03:11:00.159 --> 03:11:01.799 right so that those people who are 03:11:01.879 --> 03:11:03.319 coming forward are not going to be 03:11:03.399 --> 03:11:05.840 shocked and not going to be amazed at 03:11:05.920 --> 03:11:07.440 what they have to do but have a really 03:11:07.520 --> 03:11:10.079 good understanding of what that role is 03:11:10.159 --> 03:11:12.280 and what it encompasses when they put 03:11:12.360 --> 03:11:14.280 their hand up and they'll be 03:11:14.360 --> 03:11:17.479 confident about what to expect for 4 03:11:17.559 --> 03:11:21.280 years if they are honored enough to 03:11:21.360 --> 03:11:23.239 to be able to take on that role of 03:11:23.319 --> 03:11:25.760 counselor thank you thank you very much 03:11:25.840 --> 03:11:28.520 councelor basley councelor Eden any 03:11:28.600 --> 03:11:30.520 question yes thank you just a 03:11:30.600 --> 03:11:32.399 question whether or not officers could 03:11:32.479 --> 03:11:35.360 include when the deferral comes back a 03:11:35.440 --> 03:11:37.680 copy of all the legislative changes that 03:11:37.760 --> 03:11:40.120 are proposed by the state government 03:11:40.200 --> 03:11:41.959 with respect to additional 03:11:42.040 --> 03:11:44.040 responsibilities being placed on 03:11:44.120 --> 03:11:46.440 counselors and additional you know 03:11:46.520 --> 03:11:48.520 liability that could fall on councilors 03:11:48.600 --> 03:11:50.879 I.E their requirements to pay out of 03:11:50.959 --> 03:11:52.959 their own pocket legal fees for code of 03:11:53.040 --> 03:11:55.520 conduct panels and so forth and to just 03:11:55.600 --> 03:11:57.639 have a bit of a paper attached to this 03:11:57.719 --> 03:12:00.040 if that's possible just so we can really 03:12:00.120 --> 03:12:02.680 make sure that the kpis would reflect 03:12:02.760 --> 03:12:04.239 what that legislation is going to be 03:12:04.319 --> 03:12:06.879 doing to the role of counselor if it's 03:12:06.959 --> 03:12:09.440 passed thank you councelor Eden and I'll 03:12:09.520 --> 03:12:11.200 just confirm bya governance whether 03:12:11.280 --> 03:12:14.360 we need to amend the motion to 03:12:14.440 --> 03:12:18.040 achieve that outcome 03:12:18.120 --> 03:12:19.520 thank you the preference of governance 03:12:19.600 --> 03:12:22.440 is that we amend the motion to 03:12:22.520 --> 03:12:26.040 outline that so I'll ask councilor Oxley 03:12:26.120 --> 03:12:27.760 if you're 03:12:27.840 --> 03:12:30.280 agreeable thank you so Council Eden 03:12:30.360 --> 03:12:31.799 would you like to read out those changes 03:12:31.879 --> 03:12:34.079 that you'd like to suggest there please 03:12:34.159 --> 03:12:37.200 that offices 03:12:37.280 --> 03:12:42.319 circulate the proposed state government 03:12:42.399 --> 03:12:44.799 changes that would impact the role of 03:12:44.879 --> 03:12:47.879 counselor 03:12:48.559 --> 03:12:52.200 when this report comes back for 03:12:53.559 --> 03:12:55.399 consideration hopefully that's clear 03:12:55.479 --> 03:12:59.680 enough but if there's specific part I.E 03:12:59.760 --> 03:13:02.000 you know liability cost additional 03:13:02.079 --> 03:13:03.559 reporting responsibilities additional 03:13:03.639 --> 03:13:06.000 training or if that's sufficient to 03:13:06.079 --> 03:13:08.200 capture all of that thank 03:13:08.280 --> 03:13:11.479 you so as that's moved and approved by 03:13:11.559 --> 03:13:13.520 the Mover in the second I think we're 03:13:13.600 --> 03:13:15.440 fine to proceed I don't believe are 03:13:15.520 --> 03:13:17.600 there any questions counc you need to 03:13:17.680 --> 03:13:19.920 ask before I put this item to the vote 03:13:20.000 --> 03:13:21.360 andless Council oxy would you like to 03:13:21.440 --> 03:13:23.879 close you would lovely thank 03:13:23.959 --> 03:13:26.840 you it was interesting listening to 03:13:26.920 --> 03:13:30.719 the debate in terms of there's I 03:13:30.799 --> 03:13:33.159 suppose a general consensus as the role 03:13:33.239 --> 03:13:35.399 of a counselor and and that does include 03:13:35.479 --> 03:13:37.479 attendance at at Key functions getting 03:13:37.559 --> 03:13:39.280 yourself out there making sure you're 03:13:39.360 --> 03:13:42.159 available to your 03:13:42.239 --> 03:13:44.639 constituents at the same time though 03:13:44.719 --> 03:13:46.399 what I I didn't hear and what I 03:13:46.479 --> 03:13:49.840 fundamentally believe is my role as a 03:13:49.920 --> 03:13:53.440 counselor is not just to do 03:13:53.520 --> 03:13:55.920 that I can be out on the street and a 03:13:56.000 --> 03:13:57.520 resident can come up and raise an issue 03:13:57.600 --> 03:13:59.920 with me as they regularly 03:14:00.000 --> 03:14:03.479 do and that Resident isn't just wanting 03:14:03.559 --> 03:14:06.760 to talk to me that's fundamentally not 03:14:06.840 --> 03:14:08.159 why they're 03:14:08.239 --> 03:14:11.280 there they are wanting 03:14:11.360 --> 03:14:13.920 action that's what I take from the 03:14:14.000 --> 03:14:15.920 requests that residents provide me 03:14:16.000 --> 03:14:17.559 whether that be via email 03:14:17.639 --> 03:14:20.200 phone on the street whatever that may be 03:14:20.280 --> 03:14:22.479 they actually want me to 03:14:22.559 --> 03:14:25.600 deliver and if I don't deliver what am I 03:14:25.680 --> 03:14:27.399 here 03:14:27.479 --> 03:14:30.959 for that is the role of a counselor is 03:14:31.040 --> 03:14:33.639 actually to deliver for the community to 03:14:33.719 --> 03:14:35.319 put those best interests of those 03:14:35.399 --> 03:14:38.120 residents here at this table it is 03:14:38.200 --> 03:14:40.760 delivery you can attend all you 03:14:40.840 --> 03:14:42.920 like that's why we need to go back to 03:14:43.000 --> 03:14:45.120 the drawing board it is not because I 03:14:45.200 --> 03:14:48.000 don't like the outcome 03:14:48.079 --> 03:14:50.680 the outcome of some of these kpis is 03:14:50.760 --> 03:14:52.840 fine but it's not 03:14:52.920 --> 03:14:56.600 enough for the 165,000 is residents that 03:14:56.680 --> 03:14:58.399 live in the city of Kingston that expect 03:14:58.479 --> 03:15:00.000 this Council to 03:15:00.079 --> 03:15:04.159 deliver we would simply not accept kis 03:15:04.239 --> 03:15:06.440 of any of our staff that were you just 03:15:06.520 --> 03:15:08.879 turn up to work and that's wonderful it 03:15:08.959 --> 03:15:10.799 it's not what we we'd accept nothing 03:15:10.879 --> 03:15:12.280 would get done in this organization I 03:15:12.360 --> 03:15:14.280 don't think the staff would like it 03:15:14.360 --> 03:15:17.000 either but we need to deliver for our 03:15:17.079 --> 03:15:18.639 community and we need to make sure that 03:15:18.719 --> 03:15:20.799 if we're going to have kpis that they 03:15:20.879 --> 03:15:23.239 reflect that desire of the community 03:15:23.319 --> 03:15:24.799 that is very clearly outlined from our 03:15:24.879 --> 03:15:26.719 representative panel and I'm sure if we 03:15:26.799 --> 03:15:28.760 went to wider consultation it would be 03:15:28.840 --> 03:15:32.200 very clear too we must deliver and the 03:15:32.280 --> 03:15:34.200 kpis must reflect 03:15:34.280 --> 03:15:37.440 that thank you Council Oxley I'll put 03:15:37.520 --> 03:15:42.079 this item to the vote all those in favor 03:15:48.040 --> 03:15:48.680 all those 03:15:48.760 --> 03:15:50.600 [Music] 03:15:50.680 --> 03:15:54.120 against all those 03:15:55.479 --> 03:15:57.639 abstaining thank you I declare that 03:15:57.719 --> 03:16:01.000 carried item 10.5 operation sand and 03:16:01.079 --> 03:16:03.600 recommendations overview of 03:16:03.680 --> 03:16:07.680 trial councilors do we have a 03:16:09.200 --> 03:16:13.040 motion thank you Council 03:16:13.120 --> 03:16:15.879 Oxley I'm happy to move the motion as it 03:16:15.959 --> 03:16:17.639 appears 03:16:17.719 --> 03:16:19.440 thank you councelor Oxley do we have a 03:16:19.520 --> 03:16:21.840 second 03:16:26.840 --> 03:16:31.520 off counselor Sab counselor 03:16:32.479 --> 03:16:35.920 Oxley I will be very brief I am very 03:16:36.000 --> 03:16:37.760 supportive of the recommendations that 03:16:37.840 --> 03:16:40.079 came out of operation sandon I've been 03:16:40.159 --> 03:16:42.639 advocating for those for quite some time 03:16:42.719 --> 03:16:45.959 I'm very grateful that we implemented 03:16:46.040 --> 03:16:47.479 the trial of those 03:16:47.559 --> 03:16:50.000 which are the no on block voting and 03:16:50.079 --> 03:16:51.440 recording of the individual votes of 03:16:51.520 --> 03:16:53.280 emotion in the minutes I know there was 03:16:53.360 --> 03:16:55.440 a lot of conjectures to the fact that 03:16:55.520 --> 03:16:57.399 maybe it will increase our meeting times 03:16:57.479 --> 03:17:00.920 by significant amounts I don't think 03:17:01.000 --> 03:17:02.559 that's the reason why our meeting times 03:17:02.639 --> 03:17:05.879 run so long but I think there are 03:17:05.959 --> 03:17:08.879 ways that we can do these things to 03:17:08.959 --> 03:17:13.200 potentially reduce time of meetings 03:17:13.280 --> 03:17:14.760 but I think there there further 03:17:14.840 --> 03:17:16.879 discussions that can be had I also I 03:17:16.959 --> 03:17:18.440 think at the end of the day these are 03:17:18.520 --> 03:17:20.680 things that will be implemented at some 03:17:20.760 --> 03:17:22.719 point in the future anyway so we may as 03:17:22.799 --> 03:17:24.719 well get used to it the state 03:17:24.799 --> 03:17:27.319 government will most likely Implement 03:17:27.399 --> 03:17:28.920 these things for us whether we like it 03:17:29.000 --> 03:17:31.079 or not I personally think they are 03:17:31.159 --> 03:17:34.040 great measures to increase transparency 03:17:34.120 --> 03:17:36.639 for our local residents so I will be 03:17:36.719 --> 03:17:38.959 supporting these this evening as well as 03:17:39.040 --> 03:17:40.440 the briefing protocols for Council 03:17:40.520 --> 03:17:42.079 meetings planning committee and pre 03:17:42.159 --> 03:17:44.879 meetings and I will note in there one 03:17:44.959 --> 03:17:46.840 of the really important things that I 03:17:46.920 --> 03:17:49.639 think we really need to be very aware 03:17:49.719 --> 03:17:53.239 of as a council because we I think 03:17:53.319 --> 03:17:55.079 inadvertently sometimes do these things 03:17:55.159 --> 03:17:56.760 even in Council reports I've seen a 03:17:56.840 --> 03:17:59.639 couple this evening where perhaps that 03:17:59.719 --> 03:18:01.399 consensus building or that debate 03:18:01.479 --> 03:18:03.680 happens when these Protocols are going 03:18:03.760 --> 03:18:05.079 to be very clear that that's not to 03:18:05.159 --> 03:18:06.920 happen at pre- briefings that must 03:18:07.000 --> 03:18:08.600 happen in this council meeting and 03:18:08.680 --> 03:18:10.840 that's something if we adopt this we 03:18:10.920 --> 03:18:13.399 need to be very very aware 03:18:13.479 --> 03:18:15.680 of and I will point it 03:18:15.760 --> 03:18:19.520 out thank you councelor Oxley councelor 03:18:19.600 --> 03:18:22.440 sa thank you Madame mayor I just 03:18:22.520 --> 03:18:24.079 wanted to acknowledge in in a different 03:18:24.159 --> 03:18:26.200 draft we talked about acknowledging the 03:18:26.280 --> 03:18:28.159 fact that this Council has been pretty 03:18:28.239 --> 03:18:30.079 leading in that space of acknowledging 03:18:30.159 --> 03:18:31.639 all the recommendations that came out of 03:18:31.719 --> 03:18:33.760 operation sand and in trialing a few 03:18:33.840 --> 03:18:35.000 things and a part of our motion 03:18:35.079 --> 03:18:36.719 acknowledge that we were going through 03:18:36.799 --> 03:18:38.639 that trial it's not in this particular 03:18:38.719 --> 03:18:40.479 motion but that's okay I I can speak to 03:18:40.559 --> 03:18:41.479 it and just explain that that's 03:18:41.559 --> 03:18:43.239 something that we have done and we were 03:18:43.319 --> 03:18:45.799 pretty Forward Thinking in actually 03:18:45.879 --> 03:18:47.319 reaching out and getting advice and all 03:18:47.399 --> 03:18:48.600 the different recommendations that came 03:18:48.680 --> 03:18:49.959 through and that's a really big thanks 03:18:50.040 --> 03:18:52.440 to our governance team who did lead that 03:18:52.520 --> 03:18:53.680 that work and thank you to miss 03:18:53.760 --> 03:18:56.559 shacklock as well who did organize 03:18:56.639 --> 03:18:58.879 and coordinated with David Wolf the 03:18:58.959 --> 03:18:59.600 the 03:18:59.680 --> 03:19:01.959 ibac I forgot his particular role but it 03:19:02.040 --> 03:19:03.520 doesn't matter everyone knows his name 03:19:03.600 --> 03:19:07.440 thank you but but I I do think what 03:19:07.520 --> 03:19:09.000 we've done so far and it's kind of been 03:19:09.079 --> 03:19:10.239 demonstrated here tonight in all the 03:19:10.319 --> 03:19:12.319 meetings that since operation sandon I 03:19:12.399 --> 03:19:13.959 think only a month after or or two 03:19:14.040 --> 03:19:15.719 months after operation sandon was 03:19:15.799 --> 03:19:17.120 released we started implementing 03:19:17.200 --> 03:19:19.520 different changes which is pretty fast 03:19:19.600 --> 03:19:21.120 and on the Fly and I know other councils 03:19:21.200 --> 03:19:22.959 are now doing the same but some of the 03:19:23.040 --> 03:19:24.600 advice that we got most recently from 03:19:24.680 --> 03:19:26.799 David wolf was that 03:19:26.879 --> 03:19:29.360 whether now in these new governance 03:19:29.440 --> 03:19:30.559 reforms that are coming to local 03:19:30.639 --> 03:19:32.600 government or at a later date these 03:19:32.680 --> 03:19:34.040 changes and those recommendations from 03:19:34.120 --> 03:19:36.760 operation sand will take effect we 03:19:36.840 --> 03:19:38.959 could have held out until then but 03:19:39.040 --> 03:19:40.920 obviously we're just going to go ahead 03:19:41.000 --> 03:19:42.520 knowing that these are coming and we've 03:19:42.600 --> 03:19:43.719 already been in the practice for a 03:19:43.799 --> 03:19:45.079 little while and it seems like we have 03:19:45.159 --> 03:19:47.559 nailed it despite what we may think 03:19:47.639 --> 03:19:49.120 sometimes we do have we have nailed that 03:19:49.200 --> 03:19:50.959 process I think pretty fluidly and 03:19:51.040 --> 03:19:53.079 pretty well so just wanted to speak 03:19:53.159 --> 03:19:54.280 to that and just commend these 03:19:54.360 --> 03:19:55.760 particular emotions and thank the 03:19:55.840 --> 03:19:58.280 governance team for the work they've 03:19:58.360 --> 03:19:59.920 done and being able to try to transition 03:20:00.000 --> 03:20:02.520 and and and shift the work especially 03:20:02.600 --> 03:20:04.760 when we've got a system like we you can 03:20:04.840 --> 03:20:06.680 currently see that doesn't actually set 03:20:06.760 --> 03:20:08.719 us up really well with divisions and 03:20:08.799 --> 03:20:10.280 vote counting and things like that so it 03:20:10.360 --> 03:20:12.479 does require a bit of manual input 03:20:12.559 --> 03:20:14.520 but they're very quick and you could say 03:20:14.600 --> 03:20:16.719 that in an earlier item so thank you 03:20:16.799 --> 03:20:19.239 thank you councilor s there any 03:20:19.319 --> 03:20:22.040 councilors who would like 03:20:22.120 --> 03:20:25.079 to debate this motion thank you 03:20:25.159 --> 03:20:28.440 councilor H just briefly I've touched 03:20:28.520 --> 03:20:31.719 on previously U I have no issue with on 03:20:31.799 --> 03:20:34.559 block motion in fact we almost just 03:20:34.639 --> 03:20:39.159 did it in 10.3 so for that reason I 03:20:39.239 --> 03:20:41.719 was just standing for this 03:20:41.799 --> 03:20:44.440 motion thank you councilor 03:20:44.520 --> 03:20:48.639 H any other counselors 03:20:50.399 --> 03:20:53.360 no council oxy would you like to 03:20:53.440 --> 03:20:55.680 close no I'll put the item to the vote 03:20:55.760 --> 03:20:58.319 all those in 03:20:59.360 --> 03:21:02.600 favor so sorry just one 03:21:02.680 --> 03:21:05.159 moment all those sorry have we captured 03:21:05.239 --> 03:21:06.639 everyone all those in 03:21:06.719 --> 03:21:10.319 favor yep okay all those voting 03:21:10.399 --> 03:21:15.000 against and all those abstaining 03:21:17.159 --> 03:21:19.079 so I'll declare that that has been 03:21:19.159 --> 03:21:21.959 carried I'm sorry did I miss 03:21:22.040 --> 03:21:26.159 something all right let's try that 03:21:27.239 --> 03:21:29.479 again perhaps we could retake the vote 03:21:29.559 --> 03:21:30.840 governance if that's okay just for 03:21:30.920 --> 03:21:33.959 clarity thank you so 03:21:36.879 --> 03:21:38.879 much all right we'll get all of those 03:21:38.959 --> 03:21:41.440 voting for to please raise your hand 03:21:41.520 --> 03:21:43.319 mayor Davey Burns councelor Eden 03:21:43.399 --> 03:21:48.319 councelor Oxley councelor Hill and coun 03:21:48.399 --> 03:21:52.719 s all those voting against all those 03:21:52.799 --> 03:21:57.040 abstaining counselor Davies counselor H 03:21:57.120 --> 03:21:59.079 and counselor 03:21:59.159 --> 03:22:01.120 Beasley all right councelors just 03:22:01.200 --> 03:22:02.920 confirming your vote has been correctly 03:22:03.000 --> 03:22:05.000 recorded there on the screen thank you 03:22:05.079 --> 03:22:07.639 I'll declare that that item has 03:22:07.719 --> 03:22:10.079 carried the next item on the agenda is 03:22:10.159 --> 03:22:12.799 10.6 the update on the rainbow local 03:22:12.879 --> 03:22:16.959 government pledge commitment achieved 03:22:17.040 --> 03:22:18.360 councilor Hill would you like to move 03:22:18.440 --> 03:22:21.639 the recommendation on the screen thank 03:22:21.719 --> 03:22:25.120 you councilor Sab 2 second thank 03:22:25.200 --> 03:22:28.600 you councilor 03:22:28.920 --> 03:22:32.520 Hill thank you mayor JDB and just 03:22:32.600 --> 03:22:36.440 noting that with our youth services 03:22:36.520 --> 03:22:39.239 team receiving final accreditation 03:22:39.319 --> 03:22:41.280 confirming rainbow TI accreditation has 03:22:41.360 --> 03:22:44.319 been achieved this marks the completion 03:22:44.399 --> 03:22:46.680 of all five commitments under the 03:22:46.760 --> 03:22:49.559 rainbow local government pledge so just 03:22:49.639 --> 03:22:52.200 going back over them undertaking 03:22:52.280 --> 03:22:54.159 rainbow tick accreditation for Council 03:22:54.239 --> 03:22:57.440 run Services developing and implementing 03:22:57.520 --> 03:22:58.719 on 03:22:58.799 --> 03:23:02.040 lgbtiqa plus action plan for Council 03:23:02.120 --> 03:23:05.639 establishing or continuing lgbtiqa 03:23:05.719 --> 03:23:08.120 plus advisory committee to council 03:23:08.200 --> 03:23:09.920 flying the rainbow flag from Council 03:23:10.000 --> 03:23:13.799 buildings on lgbtiqa plus awareness days 03:23:13.879 --> 03:23:16.440 and also marching at the pride March 03:23:16.520 --> 03:23:18.879 under Council Banner or participating at 03:23:18.959 --> 03:23:21.920 Midsmer or local Pride events so those 03:23:22.000 --> 03:23:24.120 are all the things that we've done 03:23:24.200 --> 03:23:26.280 that's what we committed to doing at a 03:23:26.360 --> 03:23:29.159 at a with a council resolution 03:23:29.239 --> 03:23:31.799 resolution at a meeting back in May 03:23:31.879 --> 03:23:34.360 2021 and yeah I just wanted to say I'm 03:23:34.440 --> 03:23:36.879 really proud that we've seen this 03:23:36.959 --> 03:23:39.879 through it's actually quite 03:23:39.959 --> 03:23:44.000 a robust process that you have to go 03:23:44.079 --> 03:23:46.840 through in order to get this 03:23:46.920 --> 03:23:49.680 accreditation and it's something that 03:23:49.760 --> 03:23:52.239 we set our mind to and we've seen it 03:23:52.319 --> 03:23:53.879 through and I think that's that's great 03:23:53.959 --> 03:23:56.520 I also just wanted to put a shout out to 03:23:56.600 --> 03:23:58.879 to our youth services team for all 03:23:58.959 --> 03:24:00.600 their great work and and 03:24:00.680 --> 03:24:03.440 recognize that their outstanding 03:24:03.520 --> 03:24:06.040 culture was also recognized in the 03:24:06.120 --> 03:24:08.600 final accreditation report that's come 03:24:08.680 --> 03:24:11.600 to us also I think it's really 03:24:11.680 --> 03:24:14.639 important to what like when I think 03:24:14.719 --> 03:24:17.959 about these initiatives for for our 03:24:18.040 --> 03:24:21.200 lgbtiqa plus Community I think it's just 03:24:21.280 --> 03:24:23.440 really important to sort of acknowledge 03:24:23.520 --> 03:24:25.319 that I I doubt whether there's anyone 03:24:25.399 --> 03:24:29.159 sitting around this table who if they 03:24:29.239 --> 03:24:32.440 themselves don't identify as being 03:24:32.520 --> 03:24:34.319 part of this community they will have 03:24:34.399 --> 03:24:36.799 friends and family who are part of 03:24:36.879 --> 03:24:39.879 the community so I I think it's just 03:24:39.959 --> 03:24:41.799 really great that we are standing up as 03:24:41.879 --> 03:24:44.799 a council and making sure that a 03:24:44.879 --> 03:24:46.840 really important group of people in our 03:24:46.920 --> 03:24:48.479 community know that they have our 03:24:48.559 --> 03:24:49.879 support and I don't think there was any 03:24:49.959 --> 03:24:51.159 better way that we could have done this 03:24:51.239 --> 03:24:54.319 so thank you thank you councelor Hill 03:24:54.399 --> 03:24:55.719 councelor 03:24:55.799 --> 03:24:58.399 S I reserve are there any other 03:24:58.479 --> 03:25:00.799 councilors wishing to debate the 03:25:00.879 --> 03:25:03.159 motion thank you Council Hill would you 03:25:03.239 --> 03:25:05.520 like to close I'll put the item to the 03:25:05.600 --> 03:25:08.399 vote all those in 03:25:10.239 --> 03:25:15.239 favor and all those abstaining 03:25:18.440 --> 03:25:21.479 thank you I declare that 03:25:21.559 --> 03:25:24.399 carried item 10.7 the order and risk 03:25:24.479 --> 03:25:26.520 committee by annual report councilors do 03:25:26.600 --> 03:25:28.360 we have a 03:25:28.440 --> 03:25:32.520 motion councelor Eden councelor Sab 03:25:32.600 --> 03:25:34.799 councelor 03:25:34.879 --> 03:25:38.520 Eden thank you councelor s any debate 03:25:38.600 --> 03:25:40.159 required 03:25:40.239 --> 03:25:42.120 counselors I'll put the matter to the 03:25:42.200 --> 03:25:44.159 vote all those in 03:25:44.239 --> 03:25:48.159 favor I declare that carried in 03:25:48.239 --> 03:25:50.440 unanimously all right we've already 03:25:50.520 --> 03:25:53.680 contemplated item 11.1 so we can now 03:25:53.760 --> 03:25:55.680 skip through to item 03:25:55.760 --> 03:25:58.040 11.2 which is the quarterly Finance 03:25:58.120 --> 03:26:00.760 report for March 2024 councilors do we 03:26:00.840 --> 03:26:03.879 have a motion thank you councelor 03:26:03.959 --> 03:26:07.120 Eden and a seconder councelor Davies 03:26:07.200 --> 03:26:08.120 councelor 03:26:08.200 --> 03:26:12.479 Eden Reserve councelor Davies Reserve 03:26:12.559 --> 03:26:14.600 any debate required 03:26:14.680 --> 03:26:16.680 councilors no I'll put that matter to 03:26:16.760 --> 03:26:18.520 the vote all those in 03:26:18.600 --> 03:26:20.479 favor thank you I'll declare that 03:26:20.559 --> 03:26:22.879 carried 03:26:22.959 --> 03:26:24.920 unanimously councilors there are no 03:26:25.000 --> 03:26:28.120 notices of motion this 03:26:29.600 --> 03:26:31.719 evening and I understand there are no 03:26:31.799 --> 03:26:34.639 items of urgent 03:26:35.479 --> 03:26:38.600 business the next item on the agenda is 03:26:38.680 --> 03:26:41.920 a confidential is are two confidential 03:26:42.000 --> 03:26:44.520 items so I believe we require a motion 03:26:44.600 --> 03:26:47.000 to move into confidential 03:26:47.079 --> 03:26:50.440 councelor H and seconded councelor S any 03:26:50.520 --> 03:26:52.000 debate required 03:26:52.079 --> 03:26:55.680 counselors we'll put the item to the 03:26:55.760 --> 03:26:58.440 vote and that's carried unanimously to 03:26:58.520 --> 03:27:02.680 move into a confidential 03:27:06.360 --> 03:27:08.440 discussion I will formally declare the 03:27:08.520 --> 03:27:11.200 meeting closed at 10:37 p.m. thank you 03:27:11.280 --> 03:27:13.680 everyone for your time and for your 03:27:13.760 --> 03:27:18.159 debate tonight have a lovely evening