WEBVTT 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:03.256 Good evening everyone and thank you so 00:00:03.280 --> 00:00:05.416 much for your patience this evening. 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:07.895 Welcoming you to our August ordinary 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:10.615 council meeting tonight the 25th of 00:00:10.639 --> 00:00:13.575 August. Can I first begin by proudly 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:15.096 acknowledging the Bunurong people of 00:00:15.120 --> 00:00:17.015 the Kulin Nation as the traditional 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:19.015 owners and custodians of the land on 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:20.616 which we are meeting and pay our 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:22.696 respects to their Elders past, present 00:00:22.720 --> 00:00:24.936 and emerging. 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:26.936 For the purposes of transparency, this 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:28.936 public meeting is being recorded and 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:30.856 streamed live on the internet. 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I would like to thank all 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:52.936 members of the gallery and those viewing 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:54.855 this meeting online on our live stream 00:00:54.879 --> 00:00:56.855 for your attendance this evening. 00:00:56.879 --> 00:00:58.695 Howeever, I would remind all attendees 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:00.535 that disruption, interjection, and 00:01:00.559 --> 00:01:02.375 participation in the debate is 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:04.775 prohibited. Please also note that the 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:06.775 operating of photographic, audio or 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:09.176 video recording equipment or any other 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:11.256 recording device is prohibited during 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:13.896 the meeting. For accessibility purposes, 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:16.616 printed and electronic agendas via iPads 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:18.376 are available for those joining us in 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:20.936 the gallery. Closed captioning is also 00:01:20.960 --> 00:01:22.616 available for members of the public who 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:24.376 are streaming this meeting via our 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:27.400 website. 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:31.896 We'll move on to the first item this 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:34.455 evening and that is apologies. We have 00:01:34.479 --> 00:01:36.696 an apology submitted from councelor 00:01:36.720 --> 00:01:39.016 Hill. Can I please have a motion that we 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:40.536 receive the apologies from councelor 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:41.896 Hill this evening? That's moved. 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:43.656 Councelor Athanasopoulos seconded 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:46.216 councelor Saab. 00:01:46.240 --> 00:01:48.936 All those in favor 00:01:48.960 --> 00:01:51.960 that is carried unanimously. 00:01:55.520 --> 00:01:57.415 We'll move to item two which is the 00:01:57.439 --> 00:01:58.856 confirmation of the minutes of the 00:01:58.880 --> 00:02:00.455 previous meeting. So that is the minutes 00:02:00.479 --> 00:02:03.479 held on the 28th of July. Do I have a 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:05.976 motion to confirm those minutes? Moved. 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:07.576 Councelor Ashworth Collett. Seconded 00:02:07.600 --> 00:02:09.896 councelor Howe. 00:02:09.920 --> 00:02:12.616 All those in favor 00:02:12.640 --> 00:02:15.640 that is carried unanimously. 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:20.215 Do I have any conflicts of interest this 00:02:20.239 --> 00:02:23.239 evening from officers or counselors? 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:27.400 We'll note that there are none 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:30.536 and we'll move on to item four which is 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:32.696 the petitions and the first petition 00:02:32.720 --> 00:02:35.720 being 4.1 sea salt sauna sub lease. 00:02:37.200 --> 00:02:39.976 Councelor O'Donnell a motion. Yes. Thank 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:43.000 you, Madam Mayor. Am I on? 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:46.295 no. Can we try one of the other 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:49.319 microphones? 00:02:50.720 --> 00:02:53.016 No, none of the microphones are working. 00:02:53.040 --> 00:02:54.456 No, you can't yell. Bear with us just 00:02:54.480 --> 00:02:56.696 for the moment. 00:02:56.720 --> 00:02:57.736 Is that working now? 00:02:57.760 --> 00:02:58.295 Yes. 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.935 Sorry, everyone. 00:03:00.959 --> 00:03:02.696 Madame Mayor, I wish to formally move 00:03:02.720 --> 00:03:05.096 the petition renewal of the Sea Soul 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:06.855 Sauna sub lease submitted by Lisa 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:09.879 Pedifer and containing 1,700 signatures 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:12.295 to be received by the CEO for your 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:15.176 consideration and get a seconder. 00:03:15.200 --> 00:03:16.215 So do that. 00:03:16.239 --> 00:03:17.816 Just mindful that we don't have the 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:20.135 screens. can we just get out of that 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:21.416 just for a second just so I can read it. 00:03:21.440 --> 00:03:23.495 Thank you. so the motion would be 00:03:23.519 --> 00:03:25.096 that council receive the petition and 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:26.855 refer it to the CEO for consideration 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:28.935 and point two notify the head petitioner 00:03:28.959 --> 00:03:30.696 of the outcome following consideration 00:03:30.720 --> 00:03:32.696 of this petition. Is that you're happy 00:03:32.720 --> 00:03:33.256 to move that? 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:33.976 Yes. Thank you ma'am. 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:35.176 Thank you. So that's moved. Councelor 00:03:35.200 --> 00:03:38.200 O'Donnell seconded councelor Law. 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:39.656 Is there anything further you wish to 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:41.016 say? Councelor O'Donnell. 00:03:41.040 --> 00:03:42.295 No. Thank you Madame Mayor. 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:45.319 Thank you councelor Law. 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:54.696 Yes. Thank you, mayor. 00:03:54.720 --> 00:03:56.215 May I speak to the item? 00:03:56.239 --> 00:03:57.896 yes. So, you can only speak to 00:03:57.920 --> 00:03:59.415 whether council should or shouldn't 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:01.016 receive the petition and then notify the 00:04:01.040 --> 00:04:02.536 head petitioner as that's the motion in 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:03.336 front of you. 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:06.360 Okay. Yes. Thank you, Mayor. 00:04:06.959 --> 00:04:08.215 Are there any other councilors wishing 00:04:08.239 --> 00:04:10.295 to speak to the motion? 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:13.319 Councelor Saab. 00:04:13.760 --> 00:04:15.256 Thank you. 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:16.935 I just wanted to share some comments 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:19.016 with respect to the petition and to 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:20.536 thank the community for their interest 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:21.976 and support on this matter. It is 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.136 sincerely appreciated. it is always 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:26.056 good to hear from our community 00:04:26.080 --> 00:04:27.816 directly and to witness the level of 00:04:27.840 --> 00:04:30.296 support and public community interest on 00:04:30.320 --> 00:04:31.895 this issue is a good reminder of the 00:04:31.919 --> 00:04:33.895 type of service this has provided for 00:04:33.919 --> 00:04:36.376 our community. I will note as is 00:04:36.400 --> 00:04:38.296 outlined in the petition as well and 00:04:38.320 --> 00:04:40.136 through my understanding of this issue 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:41.816 there has been several issues of 00:04:41.840 --> 00:04:43.256 concerns that have been raised regarding 00:04:43.280 --> 00:04:45.175 compliance and issues around lease 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:47.416 arrangements. but I did just want 00:04:47.440 --> 00:04:49.576 to acknowledge that there was a 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:50.856 council error in the placements 00:04:50.880 --> 00:04:52.216 initially that was outlined in the 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:53.416 petition about where we have placed 00:04:53.440 --> 00:04:55.416 this. I think there should be a fair 00:04:55.440 --> 00:04:57.496 and reasonable process in determining 00:04:57.520 --> 00:04:58.856 where we go forward with a lease 00:04:58.880 --> 00:05:01.880 renewal. and I look forward to this 00:05:01.919 --> 00:05:04.216 petition being accepted and keen 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:06.296 to see the response that is provided 00:05:06.320 --> 00:05:08.296 back to the 00:05:08.320 --> 00:05:10.376 Thank you. If there are no other 00:05:10.400 --> 00:05:12.056 counselors wishing to speak, I will put 00:05:12.080 --> 00:05:15.080 that to the vote. All those in favor 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.336 that is carried unanimously. 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:22.360 Thank you. 00:05:23.520 --> 00:05:25.976 We'll move on to item five, which is 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:27.656 delegates reports, councelor statements, 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:30.680 and presentation of awards. starting 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:33.175 with the presentation of awards, it is 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:35.895 my great pleasure to recognize and honor 00:05:35.919 --> 00:05:37.656 someone very special in our Kingston 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:39.735 community this evening for their 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:42.296 enormous contribution that they make and 00:05:42.320 --> 00:05:44.615 that is Dorothy Booth who is here with 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:47.639 us this evening. Dorothy has helped 00:05:47.840 --> 00:05:50.840 shape Mentone not only as a place but also 00:05:51.919 --> 00:05:54.919 as a community. Many of you may know her 00:05:55.039 --> 00:05:57.656 for her absolutely tireless work through 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.455 the Mentone Station Gardens Group. At one 00:06:00.479 --> 00:06:02.776 time, this beautiful space in the heart 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.256 of the precinct was destined to become 00:06:05.280 --> 00:06:08.280 just a bus stop, lost forever. But 00:06:08.479 --> 00:06:10.696 thanks to Dorothy's determination and 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:13.175 leadership, it was instead transformed 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:15.336 into the green, welcoming gardens that 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.360 we all enjoy today when we visit Mentone. 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:21.560 Dorothy has dedicated countless hours, 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:24.216 often thankless hours, to maintaining 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:26.696 and advocating for this much loved 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.720 space. She has truly inspired 00:06:29.840 --> 00:06:31.976 generations from school children passing 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:34.856 through daily to locals, visitors 00:06:34.880 --> 00:06:36.776 discovering the garden's heritage and 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:38.376 their beauty. 00:06:38.400 --> 00:06:40.696 When the future of the historic Mentone 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:42.295 station buildings was under threat 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:43.735 during the level crossing removal 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.759 project, Dorothy was surprise surprise 00:06:46.960 --> 00:06:49.816 again a driving force. She worked 00:06:49.840 --> 00:06:52.295 tirelessly with council and others to 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:55.175 secure their protection. Without her 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:57.735 advocacy and persistence, the expansion 00:06:57.759 --> 00:06:59.895 of the gardens alongside the rail bridge 00:06:59.919 --> 00:07:02.919 would never have been achieved. Dorothy 00:07:02.960 --> 00:07:04.776 also played a key role in ensuring that 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:07.416 those station buildings found new life. 00:07:07.440 --> 00:07:09.015 And it's wonderful to see them being 00:07:09.039 --> 00:07:11.575 repurposed as a cafe and a wine bar, a 00:07:11.599 --> 00:07:13.656 place that will bring even more vibrancy 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:15.735 to Mentone. 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.136 It was very special recently to attend 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.136 the final meeting of the friends of the 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.856 Mentone Station Gardens Group and to see 00:07:22.880 --> 00:07:25.656 generations of supporters come together 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:27.895 to celebrate what has been achieved over 00:07:27.919 --> 00:07:30.919 many, many years. Dorothy's leadership 00:07:31.039 --> 00:07:34.039 and passion made that possible and her 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:37.015 legacy will continue to live on with the 00:07:37.039 --> 00:07:38.455 merger of the friends group and the 00:07:38.479 --> 00:07:41.256 Mentone Historical Society. 00:07:41.280 --> 00:07:43.735 Dorothy, you have been possibly one of 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:45.575 the most determined people that our 00:07:45.599 --> 00:07:48.295 community have ever known. You've given 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:50.696 your time, your energy, your own 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:53.720 resources, and so much of your passion. 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:55.735 Always stepping up when the gardens and 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.216 our heritage needed you. even giving us 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:00.855 a good kick when we needed it. On behalf 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.879 of Kingston Council and our entire 00:08:03.919 --> 00:08:06.136 community, thank you for everything that 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:08.776 you have done for our local community. 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:10.615 It is an honor to present this 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:12.376 certificate and a bit of a small token 00:08:12.400 --> 00:08:14.615 of our deep appreciation for all of the 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:16.536 work that you have done. Could we give 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:18.455 Dorothy a massive round of applause this 00:08:18.479 --> 00:08:20.016 evening? 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:23.040 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:38.799 00:09:05.920 --> 00:09:07.416 Normally I wouldn't allow this, but this 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:10.440 is pretty special. 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.096 Thank you. Thank you very much, 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:14.776 Georgina. 00:09:14.800 --> 00:09:17.800 and thank you for the kind words. 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:22.519 it has been my great pleasure to have 00:09:23.920 --> 00:09:26.216 been able to contribute 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:29.240 and I'm accepting this 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:32.600 not for me but for the future of our 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:35.815 community. 00:09:35.839 --> 00:09:38.839 This could not have been done without 00:09:39.040 --> 00:09:40.616 everybody 00:09:40.640 --> 00:09:42.536 pitching in. 00:09:42.560 --> 00:09:45.560 Vic pole, M trains, Vic track, 00:09:48.560 --> 00:09:51.176 everybody, councils, various councils 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:54.200 under various administrations 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:57.320 have been alongside us all the way 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:00.440 through. Initially, it was the community 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:04.279 rallying together in the first place and 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:07.720 saying, "No, this is too precious. We 00:10:08.640 --> 00:10:11.640 are not going to let this go. 00:10:12.560 --> 00:10:15.560 And here we are right now in 2025 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:21.495 trying to save the little parcel of 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:24.055 land. I can't help it, Jonathan. I'm 00:10:24.079 --> 00:10:26.456 sorry. 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:29.480 The the little parcel of land that's a 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.240 directly adjacent to our very precious 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:37.240 state heritage listed. State heritage 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:41.096 listed. 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:44.120 not just local but state precious to the 00:10:45.040 --> 00:10:47.896 entire state of Victoria. 00:10:47.920 --> 00:10:50.920 We're trying to save that now 00:10:50.959 --> 00:10:53.656 so that we can extend the garden into 00:10:53.680 --> 00:10:55.896 that little parcel 00:10:55.920 --> 00:10:58.920 and make the picture complete. So, we're 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:03.000 hoping that you'll be behind us with 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:05.976 those endeavors. 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:09.000 Thank you very much. 00:11:23.570 --> 00:11:26.570 00:12:00.079 --> 00:12:03.079 Thank you. Bye. 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:20.296 We'll then move forward to delegates 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.055 reports or councelor statements. Do I 00:12:22.079 --> 00:12:23.336 have any councilors wishing to make a 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:24.935 counselor statement or delegates report 00:12:24.959 --> 00:12:26.856 this evening? 00:12:26.880 --> 00:12:29.880 Councilor White. 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:38.136 All right. Thank you, Mayor. so I 00:12:38.160 --> 00:12:40.456 just wanted to give my community an 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:42.856 update on the drainage and resurfacing 00:12:42.880 --> 00:12:44.935 upgrade of Tootals Road in Dingley 00:12:44.959 --> 00:12:47.959 Village. it was originally promised 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:50.055 by the previous council to be delivered 00:12:50.079 --> 00:12:52.536 in 2324. 00:12:52.560 --> 00:12:54.856 and when I walked into the council 00:12:54.880 --> 00:12:57.880 late last year, I was shocked to see 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:00.536 it in the capex program to be delivered 00:13:00.560 --> 00:13:03.016 perhaps in 2029. 00:13:03.040 --> 00:13:05.176 but even the budget allocated would 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:08.200 have suggested possibly later. Now in 00:13:08.560 --> 00:13:10.776 the next few months we have opening on 00:13:10.800 --> 00:13:13.016 Tootals Road the new multi-million dollar 00:13:13.040 --> 00:13:15.896 Hawthorn football club facility to 00:13:15.920 --> 00:13:18.216 which rate payers have paid $5 million 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:21.240 for a community access agreement. 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:24.055 How do we feel Tootals Road will 00:13:24.079 --> 00:13:26.456 reflect on Kingston as a council when 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.776 this happens? It's not only the 00:13:28.800 --> 00:13:30.456 thousands that will attend the grounds, 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:32.375 but for the locals that have to navigate 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:35.399 that road every day. In April, I passed 00:13:36.160 --> 00:13:37.976 a notice of motion to have the Tootals 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:40.136 Road project prioritized. And when I 00:13:40.160 --> 00:13:43.160 spoke to Peter, our CEO, last week, at 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:44.856 this stage, it will be brought forward 00:13:44.880 --> 00:13:47.096 to go out to tender mid next year to be 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:50.120 delivered in the summer of 2627. 00:13:50.800 --> 00:13:52.456 And while I can appreciate such a 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:55.255 complex project, there will still be a 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:57.255 year, maybe more, that I will feel 00:13:57.279 --> 00:13:59.175 ashamed that visitors to Kingston get 00:13:59.199 --> 00:14:01.815 the Tootals Road experience in my ward to 00:14:01.839 --> 00:14:03.815 access the exciting new Hawthorn 00:14:03.839 --> 00:14:06.216 football club facilities. 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.615 but I'd like to thank Peter so much 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.375 for his help and thank you to the 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:12.615 counselors that supported my Road 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:15.255 notice of motion from myself and the 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:17.896 Carowana community. A few of us here 00:14:17.920 --> 00:14:19.815 were elected off the back of doing the 00:14:19.839 --> 00:14:22.296 basics brilliantly because that's what 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.296 we and the other hardworking rateayers 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.696 of Kingston want to see for our money. 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:28.375 I'm so glad we're finally working 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:30.776 towards delivering on that as a council 00:14:30.800 --> 00:14:33.800 for Tootals Road in Dingley Village. 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:35.815 Thank you councelor White. Any other 00:14:35.839 --> 00:14:38.839 councilors? Councelor Saab. 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:42.279 Thank you Madame Mayor. I just wanted 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:43.896 to firstly acknowledge the Melbourne 00:14:43.920 --> 00:14:46.920 Shrepember Jane Sang community. just 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:49.416 yesterday and over the next few days it 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:51.416 will be eight days in total. the 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:53.896 community is celebrating their parushan 00:14:53.920 --> 00:14:56.536 the festival of forgiveness. 00:14:56.560 --> 00:14:58.375 yesterday was the fifth day of the of 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:01.399 the 8-day festival with being the main 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:04.375 celebration which took place in the 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:07.175 city hall in Moravan. The festival was 00:15:07.199 --> 00:15:09.656 possible thanks to a grant provided by 00:15:09.680 --> 00:15:11.896 council. I attended with our deputy 00:15:11.920 --> 00:15:14.055 mayor councelor Howe and councelor 00:15:14.079 --> 00:15:16.615 Ashworth-Collett and I have never seen 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:18.615 the city hall so full of colors and 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:20.935 happiness and joy. it was such a 00:15:20.959 --> 00:15:22.296 beautiful thing to actually be part of 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.856 and witness. Parushan is the most 00:15:24.880 --> 00:15:26.536 sacred and introspective festival for 00:15:26.560 --> 00:15:29.096 the Jane community. it's a time of of 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:31.416 spiritual upliftment, compassion and 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:33.736 reflection. and I saw a whole lot of 00:15:33.760 --> 00:15:36.760 of that and dancing in the city hall. Um 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.495 I was told yesterday as well by our Jane 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:42.519 community that all across the globe um 00:15:43.040 --> 00:15:44.536 communities the Jane communities 00:15:44.560 --> 00:15:46.536 actually observe what is happening here 00:15:46.560 --> 00:15:49.016 in Moraban in Victoria as and they're 00:15:49.040 --> 00:15:50.615 looking at this Jane community as a 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:53.639 model of success and support for Howe 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:55.336 all other communities should be able to 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:57.815 model themselves after mostly because 00:15:57.839 --> 00:15:59.416 they hold on to their religious and 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:01.416 cultural community values but also Howe 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:02.856 well they have also supported the 00:16:02.880 --> 00:16:05.336 surrounding community of Moraban. I'm 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:06.776 so proud of the success of this 00:16:06.800 --> 00:16:08.375 community and what it means for our city 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:10.296 as we continue to support our interfaith 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:12.856 and multicultural communities and the 00:16:12.880 --> 00:16:14.536 harmony and social cohesion that it 00:16:14.560 --> 00:16:17.096 builds. We are definitely richer for 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.815 their presence and their input. I also 00:16:19.839 --> 00:16:21.656 wanted to acknowledge and thank all of 00:16:21.680 --> 00:16:23.815 our advisory committee members from the 00:16:23.839 --> 00:16:26.375 community for their service over the the 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:28.536 last couple of years. as we move 00:16:28.560 --> 00:16:30.296 forward tonight, this evening, we'll 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:33.096 have a an item in the agenda where we 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:34.696 move towards a new structure for our 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:37.175 advisory committees. Um and in that new 00:16:37.199 --> 00:16:39.255 model structure, we will be 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:41.416 appointing new committee members and 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:43.096 an expression of interest will go out to 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:44.615 the community to fulfill these new 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:46.456 positions. So, I wanted to thank all of 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:48.136 the community members who have over a 00:16:48.160 --> 00:16:50.696 number of years contributed to 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:52.456 various policies and strategies and 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:54.375 documents through their feedback and 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:56.856 their their advice and their guidance on 00:16:56.880 --> 00:16:59.016 things that council um does on the 00:16:59.040 --> 00:17:00.296 different aspects of the different 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:02.216 advisory committees that we do. I wanted 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:04.456 to specifically though acknowledge um 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:07.015 one of my favorite advisory committee 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:08.136 committees over the years, the 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:09.736 environment and open space advisory 00:17:09.760 --> 00:17:11.256 committee. have had the privilege of 00:17:11.280 --> 00:17:13.096 sitting on that committee for 3 years 00:17:13.120 --> 00:17:14.696 and I hope to continue that this evening 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:16.856 if once we vote on it. but I wanted 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:17.895 to acknowledge the members on that 00:17:17.919 --> 00:17:20.216 committee who have been very vocal um 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:23.096 always um who have made sure that our 00:17:23.120 --> 00:17:25.736 meetings never finish on time um but 00:17:25.760 --> 00:17:27.815 also who have given us really 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:30.216 important and insightful feedback um 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:31.496 because they come from a range of 00:17:31.520 --> 00:17:33.416 different levels of expertise and 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:35.336 understanding. So specifically, I wanted 00:17:35.360 --> 00:17:37.256 to thank Rosemary West who was also a 00:17:37.280 --> 00:17:40.056 former counselor, Margaret Hunter, the 00:17:40.080 --> 00:17:42.376 fantastic David Medil, Travis Howeell, 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:44.856 Robin Irwin, Michelle Hornstein, Ian 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:46.856 Morgans's, Bruce Cuts, and of 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:48.775 course, Robin Nolan. Thank you so much 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:49.976 for your contributions in the 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:51.256 environment Open Space Advisory 00:17:51.280 --> 00:17:52.696 Committee. And again, I mentioned it to 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:54.216 you earlier, but I do encourage you to 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:56.376 apply again. but I do look forward 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:57.895 to seeing what the new makeup of this 00:17:57.919 --> 00:17:59.895 advisory committee will be. Thank you. 00:17:59.919 --> 00:18:00.936 Thank you. Are there any other 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:02.936 councilors wishing to make a statement? 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.960 Council Law. 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:09.799 Thank you, Mayor. 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:12.775 This Friday is wear it purple day where 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:14.376 we come together to celebrate and 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:16.775 acknowledge LGBTQI plus youth, 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:18.775 encouraging visibility, acceptance, and 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:20.936 belonging. When we wear purple in 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:22.616 Kingston, we signal to every young 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:24.856 person, regardless of gender identity or 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:27.655 sexual orientation, that they matter, 00:18:27.679 --> 00:18:29.496 that they are safe, and that they are 00:18:29.520 --> 00:18:31.015 embraced by a community that values 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:33.256 diversity and wellbeing. 00:18:33.280 --> 00:18:34.936 This celebration of equality links 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:37.015 powerfully to National Equal Pay Day 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:39.336 held on the 19th of August and a 00:18:39.360 --> 00:18:40.775 reminder that the fight for equity 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:43.096 continues. While Australia has legally 00:18:43.120 --> 00:18:45.655 mandated equal pay since 1969, the 00:18:45.679 --> 00:18:48.296 gender pay gap persists. reflecting the 00:18:48.320 --> 00:18:50.456 systemic system systemic undervaluing of 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:52.376 women's work. 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:54.216 Accountability through transparency like 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:56.216 mandatory pay gap reporting has led to 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:58.216 positive changes in employer behavior 00:18:58.240 --> 00:18:59.976 and results in more productive employees 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:01.976 and higher performing organizations. And 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.655 Kingston City Council does take part in 00:19:03.679 --> 00:19:05.176 this. 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:06.775 Closing the gender pay gap isn't just 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:08.456 about economic justice. It's about 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:09.576 protecting women's financial 00:19:09.600 --> 00:19:12.056 independence and decision-making power, 00:19:12.080 --> 00:19:13.655 which is a key factor in preventing 00:19:13.679 --> 00:19:16.056 gender-based violence. When women are 00:19:16.080 --> 00:19:17.576 valued equally, we strengthen their 00:19:17.600 --> 00:19:19.816 safety, influence, and opportunity to 00:19:19.840 --> 00:19:22.056 contribute meaningfully. 00:19:22.080 --> 00:19:25.080 So today, I wear purple in solidarity, 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:27.176 celebrating identity, equity, and 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:28.535 reminding everyone that Kingston is 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:30.216 committed to building a community where 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:32.376 all can thrive, be respected, included, 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.376 and empowered. 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:36.216 I also wish to acknowledge the Mi 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:37.576 residents who have joined us here or 00:19:37.600 --> 00:19:40.535 online in support of Seesaw Sauna. 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:42.376 Seesol Sauna is not just another local 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:44.456 business. It is a homegrown Kingston 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:46.616 success story established by our very 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:48.456 own Kingston Woman of the Year, Amy 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:50.456 Salisbury. 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:52.376 Through her vision, determination, and 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:53.976 community spirit, Amy has built 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:56.296 something remarkable. A place that 00:19:56.320 --> 00:19:57.895 improves the health and well-being of 00:19:57.919 --> 00:19:59.976 our neighbors, draws visitors from 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:01.895 across Melbourne, and contributes 00:20:01.919 --> 00:20:04.919 significantly to our local economy. Sees 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:06.696 sauna has quite literally put Kingston 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:09.256 on the map. Council itself has proudly 00:20:09.280 --> 00:20:11.416 promoted Seesol Sauna. We have held it 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:13.496 up as an example of what can be achieved 00:20:13.520 --> 00:20:14.936 by innovative local business 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:16.456 entrepreneurs. 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:18.696 We have sHowecased it in communications, 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:20.376 celebrated its contribution to community 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:22.216 health and align cesauna with our 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:24.376 well-being aspirations. 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:25.976 And today we are presented with a 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:28.216 petition which demonstrates vast support 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:31.176 for sees sauna. I also wish to thank all 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:32.775 the residents and local businesses 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:34.696 owners who attended our community event 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:36.936 in Morialik on Friday to support the 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:39.096 replacement of the shared user path or 00:20:39.120 --> 00:20:41.816 the underpass along Melik Creek. It was 00:20:41.840 --> 00:20:43.976 a fantastic turnout and thanks to all 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:45.816 the families and students who attended 00:20:45.840 --> 00:20:47.816 and all the local businesses and their 00:20:47.840 --> 00:20:49.576 support in donating bread and sausages 00:20:49.600 --> 00:20:52.600 for our sausage sizzle. Thank you. 00:20:53.360 --> 00:20:54.856 Thank you council law. Are there any 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:56.296 other counselors wishing to make a 00:20:56.320 --> 00:20:59.320 statement this evening? 00:20:59.760 --> 00:21:01.416 There being no further statement, can I 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:03.416 please have a motion that the 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:06.440 councelor's statements be received? 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:08.376 Moved. Councelor Saab seconded. Councelor 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:10.216 Athanosopoulos. 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:11.256 I don't believe there's any debate 00:21:11.280 --> 00:21:12.856 required. 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:14.696 I'll put that to the vote. All those in 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:16.856 favor 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.096 that is carried unanimously. 00:21:19.120 --> 00:21:21.416 Thank you. We'll move to question time. 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:23.816 Mr. CEO. 00:21:23.840 --> 00:21:26.535 Thank you, Mayor Oxley. Um, thank you to 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:27.895 those who submitted questions this 00:21:27.919 --> 00:21:29.416 evening. Please note the governance 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:30.775 rules have been applied to all 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.799 questions. Questions received in 00:21:33.840 --> 00:21:36.616 relation to the community local law. Um, 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:38.376 these have not been answered tonight and 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:39.736 they are deemed repetitive under the 00:21:39.760 --> 00:21:41.256 governance rules. Howeever, please note 00:21:41.280 --> 00:21:43.336 that this item will be considered this 00:21:43.360 --> 00:21:45.736 evening. There are a total of 47 00:21:45.760 --> 00:21:46.856 questions submitted for tonight's 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:48.856 ordinary council meeting. Nine questions 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:50.376 have been disallowed in accordance to 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:52.296 the governance rules on the grounds that 00:21:52.320 --> 00:21:53.976 two questions were repetitive of a 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:56.535 question already asked and answered. 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:58.216 Four questions exceeded the question 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:00.456 limit for an individual person and three 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:02.535 questions were considered objectionable. 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:04.296 Please note that any preamles submitted 00:22:04.320 --> 00:22:07.096 with questions will not be read out. 00:22:07.120 --> 00:22:08.616 We have bundled a number of questions 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:11.640 together relating to similar topics. The 00:22:11.679 --> 00:22:14.535 first one is in regard to seesol sauna 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:16.535 and they are from four authors. The 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:19.015 first one is from Kate. The council has 00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:20.376 stated that the initial trial of the 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:21.976 seesol sauna was the result of an 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:24.535 internal error by the operations team. 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:26.216 Despite this, the Mortial Sailing Club 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.296 has formally requested that the SNES 00:22:28.320 --> 00:22:30.535 ancillary lease be continued, noting 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:32.056 clear community benefits such as 00:22:32.080 --> 00:22:34.135 improved club membership and enhanced 00:22:34.159 --> 00:22:37.015 local well-being. The community deserves 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:39.256 clarity on one transparency. What are 00:22:39.280 --> 00:22:40.775 the exact reasons the council is not 00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:42.936 facilitating a proper renewal process? 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:44.775 and two, Howe does the council reconcile 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:46.775 the admitted internal error with its 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:48.216 current refusal to support a 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:51.096 continuation? Questions from Lisa, why 00:22:51.120 --> 00:22:52.696 has the council not followed the correct 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:54.535 process for supposed breaches of the 00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:56.775 Seesol Sauna lease and communicated with 00:22:56.799 --> 00:22:58.936 the business owner? And two, why has the 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:00.775 council been so heavily swayed by one 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:02.216 person who does not like the small 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:04.456 business of Seesol Sauna despite the 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:05.816 small business directly aligning with 00:23:05.840 --> 00:23:08.775 council's own well-being policy 2025 to 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:11.736 2029? Question from Peter. Can you 00:23:11.760 --> 00:23:13.336 please explain Howe a not for-p profofit 00:23:13.360 --> 00:23:15.015 sailing club is allowed to commercialize 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.176 crown land and introduce a for-profit 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:18.696 commercial operation into an area 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:21.720 protected 140 years ago? 00:23:22.080 --> 00:23:23.736 Question from Wayne. The storm was 00:23:23.760 --> 00:23:25.336 placed immediately beside the allnuts 00:23:25.360 --> 00:23:27.096 property sold last December and I'm the 00:23:27.120 --> 00:23:28.936 adjoining property. Designs for six 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:30.456 units on the site are well underway with 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:32.936 a likely build in 2026. Howe can 00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:34.696 occupiers be expected to have gatherings 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:36.696 immediately outside their houses? I'll 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:38.296 ask council's chief financial officer, 00:23:38.320 --> 00:23:41.320 Bernard Rowan, to respond. 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:44.376 Thank you. and through you, Mayor 00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:47.096 Oxley. I would like to thank Kate for 00:23:47.120 --> 00:23:48.936 their questions. Council officers 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:50.696 approved a subleasase for the Modial 00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:52.616 Sailing Club to Seesaw Sauna for an 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:54.696 11-month trial period to help council 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:56.376 understand the opportunities and 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:59.015 challenges of introducing new commercial 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:01.096 use on our foreshore. It is an 00:24:01.120 --> 00:24:03.096 established pra it is an established 00:24:03.120 --> 00:24:04.856 practice and an acceptable process for 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:06.535 council officers to approve short-term 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:09.015 lease arrangements. officers are now 00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:10.376 considering this specific matter 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:13.096 further. Secondly, um the trial of the 00:24:13.120 --> 00:24:14.856 sub lease is helping officers to examine 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:16.456 practical considerations for this type 00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:18.216 of commercial operation in a sensitive 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.135 foreshore location, especially an 00:24:20.159 --> 00:24:21.576 operation so close to residential 00:24:21.600 --> 00:24:23.736 properties. These considerations include 00:24:23.760 --> 00:24:25.496 parking and access, noise, 00:24:25.520 --> 00:24:27.015 infrastructure needs, environmental 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:28.616 management, public safety, and community 00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.535 feedback. A range of perspectives are 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:32.775 being considered by officers. I would 00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:34.296 also like to thank Lisa for their 00:24:34.320 --> 00:24:36.535 questions. As council is the landlord 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:38.296 for the site occupied by the Morty Alex 00:24:38.320 --> 00:24:39.576 Sailing Club, officers have been 00:24:39.600 --> 00:24:41.176 engaging with the club on this sub 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:43.015 lease. The Morty Alex Sailing Club 00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:44.856 manages the relationship with Cecil, the 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:47.496 club's subtenant. Council officers are 00:24:47.520 --> 00:24:48.535 considering a range of factors 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:50.775 associated with the 11-month suble trial 00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:52.616 and this type of commercial operation in 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:54.616 a sensitive foreshore location. There 00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:57.336 are multiple factors for us to consider. 00:24:57.360 --> 00:24:59.015 Um, I would also like to thank Peter for 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:00.616 their question. Council officers 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:01.895 approved a sub lease for the Morty 00:25:01.919 --> 00:25:03.655 Alexanding Club to Sea Soul Sauna for an 00:25:03.679 --> 00:25:05.576 11-month trial period. This trial is 00:25:05.600 --> 00:25:06.696 intended to assist with the 00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:07.976 understanding of the opportunities and 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:09.736 challenges of introducing new commercial 00:25:09.760 --> 00:25:11.976 use on our foreshore. I finally would 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:13.816 like to thank Wayne for their question. 00:25:13.840 --> 00:25:15.736 The council is aware of the purchaser of 00:25:15.760 --> 00:25:17.895 the Alnut property may be considering a 00:25:17.919 --> 00:25:20.135 redevelopment of the site. At this time, 00:25:20.159 --> 00:25:21.895 no planning approvals have been granted 00:25:21.919 --> 00:25:23.655 as yet for that site. Should a planning 00:25:23.679 --> 00:25:25.255 application be submitted for council's 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:26.376 consideration, it would need to be 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:27.736 assessed against the provisions of the 00:25:27.760 --> 00:25:30.760 Kingston planning scheme. Thank you. 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:33.336 Next question is from Emma. Funding was 00:25:33.360 --> 00:25:34.856 allocated by the federal government to 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:36.216 the completion of the master plan 00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:38.616 redevelopment of Leage Park. What stage 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:40.775 is the project up to? I'll ask council's 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:42.296 general manager infrastructure and open 00:25:42.320 --> 00:25:45.320 space, Samantha Cruel, to respond. 00:25:47.120 --> 00:25:49.015 Thank you. And through you, Mayor 00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:52.039 Council received $5,832,500 00:25:53.679 --> 00:25:55.176 from the federal government under the 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.416 recent thriving suburbs grant towards 00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:00.440 this $12 million project. The Leage Park 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:02.696 master plan was endorsed by council in 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.496 July 2022. The first stage of the 00:26:05.520 --> 00:26:07.736 implementation is to undertake detailed 00:26:07.760 --> 00:26:09.736 site assessments and review the layout 00:26:09.760 --> 00:26:12.456 plan. Stakeholders at the reserve have 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:14.135 all been engaged and the concept design 00:26:14.159 --> 00:26:15.816 will be available through your Kingston 00:26:15.840 --> 00:26:17.816 yoursay in September for public 00:26:17.840 --> 00:26:19.496 consultation. 00:26:19.520 --> 00:26:21.176 Council is seeking feedback on the 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:23.096 active recreation zone on the diverse 00:26:23.120 --> 00:26:25.416 range of activities. Detailed design 00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:27.895 will commence in October 2025 following 00:26:27.919 --> 00:26:30.216 community input with the project due for 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.240 completion in mid 2027. Thank you. 00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:36.696 Next questions are from Phoebe. Given 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:38.456 the council's recently proposed changes 00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:40.216 to the community local law which would 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:41.976 remove restrictions on pirate gates 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.616 access to parkland and foreshore areas, 00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:46.616 can council clarify why planning permit 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:48.056 applications involving the replacement 00:26:48.080 --> 00:26:50.376 of a fence with a pre-existing gate have 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:51.976 been refused on the basis of local law 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:55.000 clause 163.1 and will council reconsider 00:26:55.600 --> 00:26:57.096 recent refusals once the updated 00:26:57.120 --> 00:26:59.096 community local law comes into effect to 00:26:59.120 --> 00:27:00.696 ensure consistency between current 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.015 residence situations and the proposed 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:05.015 policy direction. I'll ask council's 00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:06.616 general manager planning a place Mr. 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.640 Jonathan Goodman to respond. 00:27:09.679 --> 00:27:11.816 Thank you and through you Madame Mayor. 00:27:11.840 --> 00:27:13.816 I'd like to thank Phoebe firstly for her 00:27:13.840 --> 00:27:15.496 question in relation to planning 00:27:15.520 --> 00:27:17.655 considerations associated with access to 00:27:17.679 --> 00:27:19.976 public land. The considerations before 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:21.576 the council under the Kingston planning 00:27:21.600 --> 00:27:23.576 scheme will vary across different 00:27:23.600 --> 00:27:26.056 locations in the city as different zones 00:27:26.080 --> 00:27:29.015 and overlays will likely apply. When 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:30.936 considering access issues, council will 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:32.456 consider the extent to which the 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:35.336 intended development may impact on the 00:27:35.360 --> 00:27:38.360 adjacent open space area. A practical 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:40.135 illustration would be that if the impact 00:27:40.159 --> 00:27:43.015 on access to public open space from a 00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:45.895 from a large development when compared 00:27:45.919 --> 00:27:48.919 um to a single detached house 00:27:49.760 --> 00:27:51.976 officers will seek to contact Phoebe to 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:53.816 understand the context for the recent 00:27:53.840 --> 00:27:56.296 refusals mentioned in her question and 00:27:56.320 --> 00:27:58.775 determine whether any form of review is 00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:01.799 required. 00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:05.015 The next questions are consolidated 00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:06.856 from Lindsay and Deborah. Question from 00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.176 Lindsay. What reason did councils have 00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:10.696 for not supporting replacement of the 00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:12.535 Morial Creek Railway pedestrian 00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:15.015 underpass? And why did Mayor Oxley vote 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.895 it down? A question from Deborah. Can 00:28:17.919 --> 00:28:19.416 council please clarify to the community 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.096 that the councils who voted against the 00:28:21.120 --> 00:28:23.336 motion put by councelor Tess law for a 00:28:23.360 --> 00:28:24.856 detailed business case to be generated 00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:26.535 regarding the Mortial Creek Northern 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:28.375 underpass that they were not voting 00:28:28.399 --> 00:28:30.135 against the creation of the underpass 00:28:30.159 --> 00:28:32.216 itself but against the huge expense of 00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:33.655 this business analysis which would 00:28:33.679 --> 00:28:35.496 become a burden to rateayers of many 00:28:35.520 --> 00:28:37.416 hundreds of thousands of dollars and 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:39.096 council please note that there is a 00:28:39.120 --> 00:28:41.655 there is much confusion being caused by 00:28:41.679 --> 00:28:43.176 some who are spreading misinformation in 00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:45.015 the Mi community about this vote saying 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:46.856 these councils voted against the 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.096 underpass itself. I'll ask Mr. Dan 00:28:49.120 --> 00:28:50.535 Hogan, general manager customer and 00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:53.096 corporate support to respond. 00:28:53.120 --> 00:28:55.336 Thank you and through the mayor. The 00:28:55.360 --> 00:28:56.775 recording of the meeting to hear the 00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:58.535 councelor debate which is available on 00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:00.216 council's website is the best way to 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:01.976 understand Howe counselors chose to 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:04.375 exercise their vote. Alternatively, you 00:29:04.399 --> 00:29:05.976 may wish to specifically inquire of a 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:07.976 counselor and their contact details are 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.535 available on our website. The motion 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.535 itself considered by council was whether 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.255 or not, and I quote now, council receive 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:17.496 a report detailing the costs, features, 00:29:17.520 --> 00:29:20.056 and benefits of detailed business case 00:29:20.080 --> 00:29:22.216 and feasibility analysis of alternative 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.696 replacement options for the Morial Creek 00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:27.336 Northern underpass. For those interested 00:29:27.360 --> 00:29:29.096 in further details such as the premise 00:29:29.120 --> 00:29:31.096 for the notice of motion and officers 00:29:31.120 --> 00:29:33.096 response, the meeting agenda in the July 00:29:33.120 --> 00:29:35.576 council meeting is also available on our 00:29:35.600 --> 00:29:38.600 website. 00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:41.720 The next question is from Jules. Can you 00:29:41.840 --> 00:29:43.736 provide examples of Howe the King City of 00:29:43.760 --> 00:29:45.416 Kingston has engaged and supported 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:47.255 previous women of the year award winners 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:49.736 to foster effective ongoing partnerships 00:29:49.760 --> 00:29:51.015 furthering community wellness 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:52.936 initiatives suited to council's 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.096 inclusion and health goals. I'll ask 00:29:55.120 --> 00:29:56.375 council student manager community 00:29:56.399 --> 00:29:59.399 strengthening Kate Waters to respond. 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:06.456 Thank you. And through the mayor, 00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:08.696 council does actively engage and support 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:10.696 Kingston Women of the Year award winners 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:12.296 and nominees to build ongoing 00:30:12.320 --> 00:30:13.976 partnerships that strengthen community 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.456 well-being and inclusion. Council has 00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:18.216 established a Kingston Women of the Year 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:20.535 alumni, providing an ongoing network 00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:22.456 where nominees and award winners are 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:23.976 invited to connect with council 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.056 initiatives, receive updates, and 00:30:26.080 --> 00:30:28.535 contribute their ideas. For example, in 00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:31.015 the leadup to the 2025 Kingston Women of 00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:33.096 the Year event, alumni members were 00:30:33.120 --> 00:30:34.696 consulted on Howe they would like to 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:36.936 remain involved and Howe the program 00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:38.775 could continue to foster meaningful 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:41.496 connections. Some examples of Howe women 00:30:41.520 --> 00:30:42.936 of the year participants have 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:44.856 contributed to council's inclusion and 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.736 health goals include women winners are 00:30:47.760 --> 00:30:50.056 invited to key council events such as 00:30:50.080 --> 00:30:52.456 citizenship ceremonies. Winners and 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:54.936 nominees are invited to host or speak at 00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:56.936 women of the year events, providing a 00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:58.375 platform that celebrates women's 00:30:58.399 --> 00:31:00.216 leadership and reinforces council's 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.616 commitment to inclusion. And council's 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:04.696 collaboration with emerge women and 00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.096 children support network was initiated 00:31:07.120 --> 00:31:09.255 through a connection with a women a 00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:10.856 Kingston women of the year winner 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:12.775 supporting delivery of initiatives under 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:14.856 the prevention of f family violence 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:17.880 action plan. 00:31:18.399 --> 00:31:21.399 The next two questions are from Scott. 00:31:21.760 --> 00:31:23.336 Both of my questions relate to Southern 00:31:23.360 --> 00:31:25.816 Road Mentone. What specific actions have 00:31:25.840 --> 00:31:27.816 council officers taken due between the 00:31:27.840 --> 00:31:30.135 July and August 2025 meetings to engage 00:31:30.159 --> 00:31:32.216 with key stakeholders including the 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.616 Goodman Group Mentone LP Proprietary 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:36.936 Limited, the airport lei company and the 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.696 Commonwealth government to progress 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:40.135 discussions on a connector road to 00:31:40.159 --> 00:31:42.296 divert industrial traffic away from 00:31:42.320 --> 00:31:44.535 southern road men as resolved and 00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.296 unanimously voted upon by Kingston 00:31:46.320 --> 00:31:49.320 Councils at their July 2025 meeting? and 00:31:49.760 --> 00:31:51.176 what measures has the council put in 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:52.856 place to ensure timely and transparent 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:54.616 communication with the community and 00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:56.696 councelor erises regarding progress on 00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:58.936 the above matter including any planned 00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:01.096 timelines or milestones for stakeholders 00:32:01.120 --> 00:32:03.336 consultation I'll ask Mr. Goodman, 00:32:03.360 --> 00:32:04.696 general manager planning a place to 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.096 respond. 00:32:07.120 --> 00:32:09.336 Thank you and through you, Madame Mayor. 00:32:09.360 --> 00:32:10.856 I'd like to thank Scott for his 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:12.775 questions. The council resolution seeks 00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.096 a report back to council within 90 days 00:32:15.120 --> 00:32:17.576 on the items raised in the resolution. 00:32:17.600 --> 00:32:19.416 This report will include details of the 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:20.936 engagement with the land owners 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.576 identified in the resolution. Since the 00:32:23.600 --> 00:32:25.416 council resolution, council officers 00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:27.816 have met to discuss the components of 00:32:27.840 --> 00:32:29.576 the council resolutions on the required 00:32:29.600 --> 00:32:31.895 reporting time frames. Reviewed the 00:32:31.919 --> 00:32:33.816 Maraban airport approved master plan in 00:32:33.840 --> 00:32:35.576 relation to its context around the 00:32:35.600 --> 00:32:37.976 subject land. Raised the council 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:39.495 resolution with one of the current land 00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:41.096 owners to better understand its 00:32:41.120 --> 00:32:43.576 intentions for the land. Sought advice 00:32:43.600 --> 00:32:45.576 in relation to assisting with legal 00:32:45.600 --> 00:32:48.375 advice on the matters contained within 00:32:48.399 --> 00:32:50.216 the resolution. 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:51.816 commenced considering the matters 00:32:51.840 --> 00:32:53.336 associated with the planning scheme 00:32:53.360 --> 00:32:55.736 raised in the motion. Prepared a draft 00:32:55.760 --> 00:32:57.176 letter to the relevant Commonwealth 00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:58.775 Minister having completed a review of 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.799 the airport master plan. As the work 00:33:01.840 --> 00:33:03.576 required by the resolution is further 00:33:03.600 --> 00:33:05.096 progressed, an opportunity will be 00:33:05.120 --> 00:33:08.120 presented to brief interested council. 00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:12.375 The next topic has been consolidated. 00:33:12.399 --> 00:33:14.535 we have three authors. First one is 00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:16.296 from Fred. Invitations were recently 00:33:16.320 --> 00:33:18.056 sent to councils across Australia by a 00:33:18.080 --> 00:33:19.976 political lobbying group for an all 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:21.895 expenses paid trip to the Gold Coast in 00:33:21.919 --> 00:33:24.696 September for the controversial 2025 00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:26.856 Australian local government sum summit 00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:28.775 against anti-semitism. 00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:30.375 Could you confirm if any councils or 00:33:30.399 --> 00:33:31.976 council staff will be attending? And if 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:33.655 so, will any rate payer money be used 00:33:33.679 --> 00:33:36.216 for this? Question from Holly. Are any 00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:37.655 councils attending the combat 00:33:37.679 --> 00:33:40.375 anti-semitism movement CAM event in the 00:33:40.399 --> 00:33:41.816 Gold Coast? I'm interested to know if 00:33:41.840 --> 00:33:43.816 attendance at this event funded by a 00:33:43.840 --> 00:33:45.576 foreign entity complies with the local 00:33:45.600 --> 00:33:47.816 government act. And lastly, a question 00:33:47.840 --> 00:33:50.375 from Damian. Are any Kingston councils 00:33:50.399 --> 00:33:52.375 attending the 2025 Australian Mayor's 00:33:52.399 --> 00:33:54.216 summit against anti-semitism on the Gold 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.216 Coast next month? If so, will they be 00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:58.375 required to declare any cash or incind 00:33:58.399 --> 00:33:59.976 support received from the summit 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:01.976 organizers? I'll ask council's general 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:03.576 manager customer corporate support, Mr. 00:34:03.600 --> 00:34:06.600 Dan Hogan, to respond. 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:08.776 Thank you. and through the mayor. We 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:10.216 understand that no counselors are 00:34:10.240 --> 00:34:11.976 attending the 2025 Australian Mayor 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:13.815 Summit Against the Ant-Mism event in 00:34:13.839 --> 00:34:16.055 Queensland. No council officers are 00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:18.536 attending. We further understand the 00:34:18.560 --> 00:34:20.135 event is being hosted jointly by the 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.456 Combat Anti-semitism Movement or CAM and 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.216 the Executive Council of Australian Jury 00:34:24.240 --> 00:34:26.615 ECA. According to the CAM website, 00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:28.375 they're operated by the Combat Hate 00:34:28.399 --> 00:34:31.399 Foundation, a registered 501c3 entity in 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:32.855 the United States with a mailing address 00:34:32.879 --> 00:34:34.536 of Mound Ridge, Kansas, the United 00:34:34.560 --> 00:34:36.536 States of America. According to the 00:34:36.560 --> 00:34:38.296 ecash website, the executive council of 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:39.655 Australian jury is the peak body of the 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:41.976 Australian Jewish community. Attendance 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:43.416 at such an event would have no apparent 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:44.615 conflict with the local government act 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.536 in principle. But if invitations 00:34:46.560 --> 00:34:48.135 included officers of free flights, 00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:50.216 accommodation of meals by organizers, 00:34:50.240 --> 00:34:51.895 councilors would be required to comply 00:34:51.919 --> 00:34:53.815 with council's councelor gift, 00:34:53.839 --> 00:34:55.416 hospitality and political donations 00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:57.416 policy and councelor support and 00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:59.176 reimbursement of expenses policy 00:34:59.200 --> 00:35:02.136 including appropriate declaration. 00:35:02.160 --> 00:35:04.296 The next question is from Alan. For over 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:05.736 2 years, I've been trying to have the 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:07.575 derelict/abandoned 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:09.976 cars left in the street by the next door 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:11.815 neighbor. I've provided pictures and 00:35:11.839 --> 00:35:13.496 also a spreadsheet sHoweing the lapsed 00:35:13.520 --> 00:35:15.016 registrations, but no cars are being 00:35:15.040 --> 00:35:16.856 towed to my knowledge in the two years 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:18.856 I've been asking about this. What do I 00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:20.536 need to do to have these cars removed as 00:35:20.560 --> 00:35:22.536 they lawfully should be? I'll ask Mr. 00:35:22.560 --> 00:35:23.976 Goodman, general manager of planning a 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.000 place to respond. 00:35:27.200 --> 00:35:29.736 Thank you, Madame May. I'd like to thank 00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.976 Alan for his question. Council regularly 00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:34.136 patrols in Kemble Street, Chelenham, and 00:35:34.160 --> 00:35:37.016 surrounding streets. In July 2025, 00:35:37.040 --> 00:35:38.536 council issued a letter to all 00:35:38.560 --> 00:35:40.776 businesses in Kemble Street advising 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:42.776 that unregistered cars parked on that 00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.335 street will be towed away. Council has 00:35:45.359 --> 00:35:46.856 contacted a towing operator and 00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:48.536 currently has active towing requests for 00:35:48.560 --> 00:35:51.095 unregistered cars in Kemla and 00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.976 surrounding streets. 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.776 So far in 2025 in Kemler Street, council 00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:58.856 has towed away three unregistered cars 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.856 and attempted to tow away further two 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.176 cars that were blocked in and could not 00:36:03.200 --> 00:36:06.200 be removed. In 20 in 2024, council towed 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.376 away two unregistered cars in Kembler 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:11.400 Street. Thank you. 00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:14.440 The next topic has six authors. The 00:36:14.720 --> 00:36:16.616 first question is from Gavin, the local 00:36:16.640 --> 00:36:18.296 government minister in Kingston Council. 00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.216 All reference municipal monitors being 00:36:20.240 --> 00:36:21.656 appointed to council who will report to 00:36:21.680 --> 00:36:24.680 the local Nick Stacos. The municipal 00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:26.696 association of Victoria state that 00:36:26.720 --> 00:36:28.296 monitors can be appointed if requested 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.296 by the mayor or chief executive officer 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.136 for public transparency. Can council 00:36:32.160 --> 00:36:33.496 please state who within council 00:36:33.520 --> 00:36:35.976 requested these appointments and then 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:37.496 please explain the reasons behind the 00:36:37.520 --> 00:36:39.736 state government or council's decision. 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:42.136 Question from Una. Have either council 00:36:42.160 --> 00:36:44.055 test law or councelor had Saab contacted 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.416 the minister for local government in 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:46.936 relation to the appointment of a monitor 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:48.296 at Kingston council before the 00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:51.320 announcement made on 22 August 2025. 00:36:52.240 --> 00:36:54.136 Question from Jeff. Has any member of 00:36:54.160 --> 00:36:56.216 the Kingston Council executive team met 00:36:56.240 --> 00:36:58.055 or spoken with the staff of either the 00:36:58.079 --> 00:36:59.736 minister for local government local 00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.815 government Victoria or Mr. John Tanner 00:37:01.839 --> 00:37:03.256 A.M. prior to the announcement of the 00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:06.280 monitor on 22 August. If the answer is 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:07.736 yes to the above, will details be 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:09.016 provided of when the meetings or 00:37:09.040 --> 00:37:11.095 discussion was and the details of it and 00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:12.136 where the records will be made 00:37:12.160 --> 00:37:15.095 available? Question from Anna. Is the 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:16.936 CEO or the executive officers aware of 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:18.376 any reasons why the Minister for Local 00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:19.896 Government decided to appoint a monitor 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.216 to King Council aside from the public 00:37:22.240 --> 00:37:24.536 statements made to date? Question from 00:37:24.560 --> 00:37:26.456 Avette. Was any member of Kingston 00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.216 Council executive aware of the matter of 00:37:28.240 --> 00:37:30.136 installing monitors at any time prior to 00:37:30.160 --> 00:37:33.160 Friday, 22 August 2025? And a question 00:37:33.520 --> 00:37:35.575 from Gil. Did the mayor have any prior 00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.095 knowledge or discussion or communication 00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:38.456 with anyone about the government 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:39.736 appointment of a state government 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.760 monitor into on 22 August 2025? 00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.216 I will choose to respond to these 00:37:46.240 --> 00:37:48.936 questions and I provide the decision to 00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:50.296 appoint a monitor was made by the 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:51.976 minister for local government. The 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:53.095 reasons for the appointment and the 00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:54.856 terms of reference can be found on the 00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:56.936 local government Victoria website. 00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:58.216 Official notice of the appointment was 00:37:58.240 --> 00:37:59.976 made in writing to the mayor on Friday 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:03.000 22 August and I as the CEO was made 00:38:03.839 --> 00:38:06.055 aware of the of an intention to appoint 00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.216 the evening prior and I duly informed 00:38:08.240 --> 00:38:10.616 the mayor thereafter that conversation. 00:38:10.640 --> 00:38:12.456 I'm not aware of any council making any 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:13.896 contact with the minister for local 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:15.736 government and any questions specific to 00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:17.335 any individual councilors are best 00:38:17.359 --> 00:38:19.335 directed to them or councelor contact 00:38:19.359 --> 00:38:22.359 details are listed on council's website. 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:24.376 Next two questions are from Rosemary 00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:26.376 West. Has council been able to discover 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:28.296 who, if anyone, gave permission for the 00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.616 2.9 hectare Coast Banks seal woodland 00:38:30.640 --> 00:38:32.696 remnant on Groves Reserve to be cleared 00:38:32.720 --> 00:38:35.095 in March this year? And if so, can you 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:36.536 tell the committee who made the decision 00:38:36.560 --> 00:38:38.456 and on what grounds? I'll ask Mr. 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:39.896 Goodman, general manager, planning a 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:41.496 place to respond. 00:38:41.520 --> 00:38:42.936 Thank you. And through you, Madame 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:44.376 Mayor. Again, I'd like to thank Miss 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:46.936 West for her questions. The council has 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:48.536 previously informed Miss West that the 00:38:48.560 --> 00:38:50.296 responsibility for determining whether 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.296 native vegetation can be removed as part 00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:54.776 of the level crossing removal project is 00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:57.016 covered under clause 5207 of the 00:38:57.040 --> 00:38:59.416 Kingston planning scheme. The 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:01.736 responsibility to decide on the removal 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:03.575 of the vegetation sits with the 00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.176 secretary of the relevant state 00:39:05.200 --> 00:39:07.335 government department. 00:39:07.359 --> 00:39:09.256 Despite repeated requests to level 00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.095 crossing removal project for all the 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.575 material relevant to this decision, it 00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:15.815 has not been forthcoming. 00:39:15.839 --> 00:39:17.815 Council has also not received a response 00:39:17.839 --> 00:39:20.839 to the two items two items relevant to 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.016 the Grove Street Reserve raised and 00:39:23.040 --> 00:39:24.856 resolved as items of urgent business 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:27.256 from its ordinary council meeting on 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.216 June 23rd. Officers are meeting with the 00:39:30.240 --> 00:39:32.216 level crossing removal project next week 00:39:32.240 --> 00:39:34.136 and will again raise these matters with 00:39:34.160 --> 00:39:37.095 the LXRP. Thank you. 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:38.856 Next question is from Lynn. Why is 00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.656 Bricky Reserve Oval now no longer an off 00:39:41.680 --> 00:39:43.815 leash designated area? Why were 00:39:43.839 --> 00:39:45.335 residents not informed that the over 00:39:45.359 --> 00:39:47.416 would no longer allow dogs off leash? 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:48.776 Again, I ask Mr. Goodman, general 00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.256 manager, planning a place to respond. 00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:52.536 Thank you. And again through you, Madame 00:39:52.560 --> 00:39:54.136 May. I'd like to thank Lynn for her 00:39:54.160 --> 00:39:56.136 question. The Overlook Bricker Reserve 00:39:56.160 --> 00:39:58.216 has never been a declared dog off leash 00:39:58.240 --> 00:40:00.856 area. The allocated dog off leash area 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:02.536 within the reserve is on the opposite 00:40:02.560 --> 00:40:04.616 side of Rowan's Road adjacent to the 00:40:04.640 --> 00:40:07.640 steam locomotive society and denoted by 00:40:08.240 --> 00:40:10.776 new council signage. New signage has 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:12.936 recently been installed on the fence 00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:15.335 around the oval to replace older signage 00:40:15.359 --> 00:40:17.896 that has degraded and to clarify the 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:20.920 oval is a dog unleash zone. Thank you. 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:24.776 Next question is from null. My question 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:26.216 relates to the process of issuing 00:40:26.240 --> 00:40:27.496 building permits and associated 00:40:27.520 --> 00:40:29.976 demolition permits. Why has this process 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.055 been passed to the private sector? Ask 00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:33.656 Mr. Goodman, general manager planning 00:40:33.680 --> 00:40:35.736 and place to respond. 00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:37.095 Thank you. Thank you and again for you 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.119 Madame Mayor. 00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:43.176 I'd like to thank null for his question 00:40:43.200 --> 00:40:45.095 and appreciate him raising this matter 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:46.776 with council following the commencement 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.416 of the demolition on Saturday following 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:50.856 the deregulation of the building 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.256 surveying industry in the mid1 1990s. An 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.496 individual has been able to obtain a 00:40:55.520 --> 00:40:57.335 building permit to construct or demolish 00:40:57.359 --> 00:40:59.016 a building from a registered private 00:40:59.040 --> 00:41:00.856 building surveyor. Private building 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:02.616 surveys are registered by the Victorian 00:41:02.640 --> 00:41:04.376 Building and Plumbing Commission through 00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.295 the Building Practitioners Board. 00:41:06.319 --> 00:41:07.896 Council officers will conduct an 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:09.815 inspection of the site and should it be 00:41:09.839 --> 00:41:12.055 deemed appropriate, the matter raised by 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:13.656 null will be referred to the Victorian 00:41:13.680 --> 00:41:15.496 Building and Plumbing Commission to 00:41:15.520 --> 00:41:17.016 follow up with the registered building 00:41:17.040 --> 00:41:18.456 practitioner responsible for the 00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:21.016 demolition of the relevant property. In 00:41:21.040 --> 00:41:22.776 certain circumstances, the Victorian 00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:24.616 Building and Plumbing Commission have 00:41:24.640 --> 00:41:26.216 taken action if the registered 00:41:26.240 --> 00:41:27.976 practitioners have acted 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:31.000 inappropriately. 00:41:31.680 --> 00:41:34.376 Next question is from Arena. Has the 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:35.815 public a right to know if their ward 00:41:35.839 --> 00:41:37.575 counselor is absent or taken leave of 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.815 absence for any reason? Has any council 00:41:39.839 --> 00:41:41.736 taken leave this year? And can you name 00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:43.815 them? I'll ask Mr. Dan Hogan, general 00:41:43.839 --> 00:41:44.776 manager of customer and corporate 00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.335 support to respond. 00:41:47.359 --> 00:41:49.416 Thank you. and through the chair. The 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:52.216 Local Government Act 2020 section 35 00:41:52.240 --> 00:41:53.896 sets out the legal requirements for 00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.216 counselors taking a leave of absence as 00:41:56.240 --> 00:41:57.416 to be obtained through council 00:41:57.440 --> 00:41:59.095 resolution and not unreasonably 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.119 withheld. No counselor has taken a leave 00:42:02.240 --> 00:42:05.016 of absence during this council term. 00:42:05.040 --> 00:42:06.936 Currently, there is no council policy in 00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:09.016 place regulating holidays, personal or 00:42:09.040 --> 00:42:11.095 sick leave required by councilors, which 00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:14.119 would be necesSaaby from time to time. 00:42:14.560 --> 00:42:17.256 The next topic is asked by two people. 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.496 So I'll consolidate that. First one is 00:42:19.520 --> 00:42:21.335 for Roslin. What are the repercussions 00:42:21.359 --> 00:42:23.095 upon residents if they point blank 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:24.936 refuse to pay the state government levy 00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:27.575 tax and emit it in their rate payments? 00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:29.496 And a question from Rose. Are residents 00:42:29.520 --> 00:42:31.416 who do not pay the new state government 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:33.496 levy section of their rate bill liable 00:42:33.520 --> 00:42:35.575 to get an interest penalty charge on 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:37.815 this unpaid portion from the Kingston 00:42:37.839 --> 00:42:39.496 Council? I'll ask council's chief 00:42:39.520 --> 00:42:40.936 financial officer Bernard Rowan to 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:42.616 respond. 00:42:42.640 --> 00:42:44.216 Thank you and through you, Mayor Oxley. 00:42:44.240 --> 00:42:45.736 I would like to thank Roslin and Rose 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:47.815 for their questions. Rate payers who do 00:42:47.839 --> 00:42:49.496 not pay a portion of their rates notice 00:42:49.520 --> 00:42:52.520 by 15 February 2026 and have not made 00:42:52.640 --> 00:42:54.295 contact with council officers regarding 00:42:54.319 --> 00:42:56.456 payment arrangements or hardship support 00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:59.416 will be regarded as in rears. The unpaid 00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:01.095 rates and charges will attract penalty 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:03.896 interest from 16 February 2026 onwards 00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.920 until paid. Council's approach to the 00:43:07.359 --> 00:43:08.616 collection of rates and charges is 00:43:08.640 --> 00:43:10.136 addressed in the debt collection policy 00:43:10.160 --> 00:43:13.160 which is available on council's website. 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:16.616 Next question is from Simon. It is my 00:43:16.640 --> 00:43:17.976 understanding that former council Steve 00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:19.736 Stacos was appointed a state secretary 00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.815 of the Labour Party in or around October 00:43:21.839 --> 00:43:24.696 2023. On what date, if any, was Kingston 00:43:24.720 --> 00:43:26.696 Council notified of his appointment and 00:43:26.720 --> 00:43:28.536 on what date, if any, was it declared in 00:43:28.560 --> 00:43:30.616 his personal interest returns? I'll ask 00:43:30.640 --> 00:43:31.896 general manager customer and corporate 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.920 support, Mr. Dan Hogan, to respond. 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:37.496 Thank you. And through the chair. Thank 00:43:37.520 --> 00:43:38.776 you for your question, Simon, but 00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:40.376 apologies. I'm unable to respond to 00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:42.856 these questions on short notice. So, 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:44.376 after some further research, I'll 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:47.400 provide a written response. 00:43:47.520 --> 00:43:49.176 That concludes public questions. Mayor 00:43:49.200 --> 00:43:52.200 Oxley. 00:43:52.240 --> 00:43:54.055 Thank you very much. And thank you to 00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:56.295 all of the submitters of questions this 00:43:56.319 --> 00:43:58.776 evening. As always, your questions are 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.656 very much valued by council. And if 00:44:01.680 --> 00:44:03.016 there's any issues with any of the 00:44:03.040 --> 00:44:04.856 answers, please don't hesitate to get in 00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:06.376 touch with us if you need any further 00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.696 information. 00:44:08.720 --> 00:44:11.720 I'll now move on to item 7.1, the town 00:44:11.839 --> 00:44:14.136 planning application decisions for July 00:44:14.160 --> 00:44:15.656 2025. 00:44:15.680 --> 00:44:17.416 Do I have a motion councilor that we 00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:20.440 note the report? 00:44:21.200 --> 00:44:22.616 Councelor O'Donnell and seconded 00:44:22.640 --> 00:44:25.640 councelor Ethanosopouloolis, 00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:27.256 but I believe there's any debate 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:29.095 required. 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:30.776 I will put that to the vote. All those 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:32.776 in favor? 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.800 That is carried unanimously. 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.456 Item 7.2 Two is the draft domestic 00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:40.616 animal management plan. Can I have a 00:44:40.640 --> 00:44:43.176 motion? Councelor Saab, 00:44:43.200 --> 00:44:45.656 the office of recommendation. 00:44:45.680 --> 00:44:47.176 Do I have a seconder? Councelor 00:44:47.200 --> 00:44:48.776 O'Donnell, do you wish to speak to the 00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:49.976 motion? 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:51.736 Thank you. 00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:53.256 just to mention that this is a 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:54.936 really important document that we are 00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:56.936 required to adopt and at this stage 00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:59.335 we're voting on um the current plan to 00:44:59.359 --> 00:45:01.575 go out for consultation. we will be 00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:04.216 consulting widely on this document and 00:45:04.240 --> 00:45:05.976 also notifying all registered pet 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.696 owners. Um we are consulting on a number 00:45:08.720 --> 00:45:11.720 of items but specifically we are also 00:45:13.200 --> 00:45:15.016 generally across the whole plan 00:45:15.040 --> 00:45:16.696 consulting to see receive feedback from 00:45:16.720 --> 00:45:18.136 the community but I wanted to highlight 00:45:18.160 --> 00:45:19.656 two particular ones that I know of 00:45:19.680 --> 00:45:21.815 interest to the community um as they've 00:45:21.839 --> 00:45:23.896 been raised with me several times. So I 00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:25.176 encourage the community who have spoken 00:45:25.200 --> 00:45:26.696 to me and I'll I'll be following up with 00:45:26.720 --> 00:45:28.536 them as well to um provide their 00:45:28.560 --> 00:45:30.136 feedback on this particular plan but on 00:45:30.160 --> 00:45:32.536 these particular sections. Those are of 00:45:32.560 --> 00:45:34.776 note that there will be um we'll be 00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:36.936 consulting on targeted patrols at 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.176 problem locations on the foreshore and 00:45:39.200 --> 00:45:42.055 at council reserves. but also we will 00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:44.936 be reviewing the existing dusk until 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.575 dawn cat curfew and consideration of 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.136 a 24/7 cat curfew to protect wildlife 00:45:50.160 --> 00:45:52.536 and protect cats. this will also be a 00:45:52.560 --> 00:45:53.976 matter that is considered as part of a 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:55.496 separate future community engagement 00:45:55.520 --> 00:45:57.736 process but I know it's one of interest 00:45:57.760 --> 00:45:59.656 to the community as it has been 00:45:59.680 --> 00:46:01.095 raised. I think it is a very difficult 00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:02.616 one that council now has to kind of 00:46:02.640 --> 00:46:04.936 grapple with that particular issue 00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:06.055 and I know there'll be another 00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.136 opportunity to to provide feedback on 00:46:08.160 --> 00:46:09.896 that. But I I do commend this particular 00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:11.976 report and the plan as it stands and 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:13.176 look forward to the community feedback 00:46:13.200 --> 00:46:14.616 on it. Thank you. 00:46:14.640 --> 00:46:16.055 Thank you councelor S. Councelor 00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:18.456 O'Donnell reserve. Any other counselors 00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:21.480 wishing to speak to the motion? 00:46:21.839 --> 00:46:23.656 There being none, I will put that to the 00:46:23.680 --> 00:46:26.616 vote. All those in favor. 00:46:26.640 --> 00:46:29.640 That is carried unanimously. 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:33.400 Thank you. I'll move to item 7.3, which 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:35.656 is the Suburban Rail Loop East Precinct 00:46:35.680 --> 00:46:37.256 Standing Advisory Committee hearing 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.280 update. Do I have a motion? 00:46:41.520 --> 00:46:43.016 Council Agatan, as it appears in the 00:46:43.040 --> 00:46:46.040 agenda. Do I have a seconder? 00:46:46.560 --> 00:46:48.136 Councilosopoulos, 00:46:48.160 --> 00:46:49.656 do you wish to speak to the motion? 00:46:49.680 --> 00:46:51.976 Council Athenosopouloolis. 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:53.335 Any councilors wishing to speak to the 00:46:53.359 --> 00:46:55.335 motion? 00:46:55.359 --> 00:46:57.256 I will put that to the vote. All those 00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.575 in favor? 00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:02.599 That is carried unanimously. 00:47:03.359 --> 00:47:06.216 Move to item 8.1, which is the 2025 00:47:06.240 --> 00:47:08.216 Kingston Youth Awards nominations and 00:47:08.240 --> 00:47:10.616 confirmation of winners. Do I have a 00:47:10.640 --> 00:47:12.456 motion? Councelor Saab, as it appears in 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:13.416 the agenda. 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:15.016 Do I have a seconder? Councelor 00:47:15.040 --> 00:47:17.176 O'Donnell. Council S, do you wish to 00:47:17.200 --> 00:47:20.200 speak to the motion? Yes, please. Um, 00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:23.016 just briefly to talk about the awards in 00:47:23.040 --> 00:47:24.936 general, but something just to 00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:27.960 highlight last term um this council and 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:31.480 um mostly because of the age that 00:47:31.520 --> 00:47:33.736 councelor Oxley and myself are, but we 00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:35.656 were one of the youngest councils in 00:47:35.680 --> 00:47:38.136 Australia in the last term and I 00:47:38.160 --> 00:47:39.736 think we are very close to being one of 00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:41.335 the youngest councils in Australia in 00:47:41.359 --> 00:47:42.856 this term. and something that I said a 00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:44.456 lot last term that I'm going to say now 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.776 again. Um I will claim that until 00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:49.176 someone else claims otherwise but we 00:47:49.200 --> 00:47:50.696 are definitely one of the youngest 00:47:50.720 --> 00:47:52.856 councils in Australia. that's 00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.095 important for a number of reasons. Mo 00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:57.176 firstly because repres representation is 00:47:57.200 --> 00:47:58.936 really important and whether we like 00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.095 it or not and often I shy away from it. 00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:02.856 We are seen as role models to our 00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.176 community. and that is more wholly 00:48:05.200 --> 00:48:06.856 evident or cannot be more wholly evident 00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:08.936 than when we actually visit a local 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:11.736 school or attend a community event. 00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:14.536 it sHowes youth in our city possible 00:48:14.560 --> 00:48:16.616 pathways forward especially the ones who 00:48:16.640 --> 00:48:18.696 are moved and in and are encouraged by 00:48:18.720 --> 00:48:20.136 community service or community 00:48:20.160 --> 00:48:22.856 leadership that they can be involved 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.496 in their local city. Um and secondly, 00:48:25.520 --> 00:48:26.856 it actually celebrates the 00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.176 accomplishments of our community. and 00:48:29.200 --> 00:48:31.976 it lets them know that they are seen, 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.136 they are heard, and that also the 00:48:34.160 --> 00:48:35.896 city in which they live actually 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:37.575 supports them for their celebrations, 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:39.256 for their achievements, and for all of 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.016 the things that they volunteer and do. 00:48:41.040 --> 00:48:42.776 and I say that because it's reflected 00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:43.976 in the way that our community 00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.295 continuously sHowes up and supports our 00:48:46.319 --> 00:48:47.656 young people, both in the ones that they 00:48:47.680 --> 00:48:49.736 elect onto council, but also through 00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:51.256 other events and things that we do like 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:54.280 this. Um we received a large pool of of 00:48:54.640 --> 00:48:56.776 nominations for our youth awards. Um it 00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:58.376 was a very difficult thing again and I 00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.216 say this every youth awards but it is a 00:49:00.240 --> 00:49:02.055 testament to our community about Howe 00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:04.295 well they are Howe well they can continue 00:49:04.319 --> 00:49:06.055 to volunteer, Howe they're such 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.456 innovative and entrepreneurial spirits. 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:11.016 and it's it it really fills me up 00:49:11.040 --> 00:49:13.896 with a lot of warmth and hope for 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:15.256 the future of our city that these are 00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:17.016 the people who live here. Um so I wanted 00:49:17.040 --> 00:49:18.776 to congratulate everyone who was 00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:21.016 nominated. I wanted to thank especially 00:49:21.040 --> 00:49:23.016 the young people who nominated 00:49:23.040 --> 00:49:26.040 their peers and congratulate the 00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:28.216 winners at the appropriate time at the 00:49:28.240 --> 00:49:30.376 conclusion of this um decision. Thank 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:31.575 you. 00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:32.936 Thank you councelor Saab. Councelor 00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:34.616 O'Donnell. 00:49:34.640 --> 00:49:37.640 Thank you Mayor Oxley. Um very well said 00:49:37.680 --> 00:49:39.256 councelor Saab. I agree with everything 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:40.696 that you raised there in regards to 00:49:40.720 --> 00:49:43.575 these awards. As I may not be helping 00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:45.736 you guys keep that age bracket down to 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:48.295 being the lowest to be claimed, I 00:49:48.319 --> 00:49:50.295 hope I'm doing a little bit of a part. 00:49:50.319 --> 00:49:53.319 Howeever, on reflection of this award, um 00:49:53.359 --> 00:49:56.359 as a parent of three teenagers, it is 00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.176 absolutely inspiring to see the nominees 00:49:59.200 --> 00:50:02.055 that came forward for this year's award 00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:03.896 and the contribution that they've had to 00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.295 our community. unbelievable what they 00:50:06.319 --> 00:50:08.936 put back into our community and the role 00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:11.736 models that they are at such a young age 00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:14.535 is phenomenal and as I said inspiring. 00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:16.856 Um congratulations to all the nominees. 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.880 Can't wait for the outcome to to be 00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:22.616 awarded within the community and this 00:50:22.640 --> 00:50:25.256 is certainly a special award to see what 00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:28.216 our young people are doing in amongst so 00:50:28.240 --> 00:50:29.575 many different avenues within our 00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:31.256 community. So congratulations everyone 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:34.280 and I can't wait to see the outcomes. 00:50:36.160 --> 00:50:37.496 Thank you, councelor O'Donnell. Are 00:50:37.520 --> 00:50:39.575 there any other counselors? 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:42.599 Councelor Law. 00:50:46.319 --> 00:50:48.216 Thank you, Mayor. 00:50:48.240 --> 00:50:49.736 Our Kingston Youth Awards are an 00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:50.856 opportunity to recognize the 00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:52.456 extraordinary contributions of young 00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:54.856 people age 12 to 25 across our 00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:56.696 municipality. 00:50:56.720 --> 00:50:58.616 We have a wide array of nominees who are 00:50:58.640 --> 00:50:59.976 young people who've demonstrated not 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:01.976 only talent and leadership but courage 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:03.416 in the face of challenges that many of 00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:06.055 us cannot begin to imagine. 00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:07.575 These young people have sHowen us that 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:09.335 adversity can be transformed into 00:51:09.359 --> 00:51:11.335 strength and setbacks into stepping 00:51:11.359 --> 00:51:13.416 stones. Their achievements are not 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.656 simply personal milestones. They have 00:51:15.680 --> 00:51:17.416 beacons of hope for others in our 00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:19.496 community who are struggling. Whether 00:51:19.520 --> 00:51:21.416 with studies, family responsibilities, 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:23.496 health, or identity, they remind us that 00:51:23.520 --> 00:51:25.736 determination, creativity, and support 00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:28.216 networks can make the difference. When 00:51:28.240 --> 00:51:29.496 we recognize these achievements 00:51:29.520 --> 00:51:30.856 publicly, we're doing more than 00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:32.696 presenting awards. We are saying to 00:51:32.720 --> 00:51:34.295 every young person in Kingston, your 00:51:34.319 --> 00:51:36.535 story matters. If you're carrying the 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:39.256 weight of any kind of disadvantage, if 00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:41.095 you're feeling unseen or unheard, you're 00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:43.016 not alone. And the pathways carved out 00:51:43.040 --> 00:51:44.616 by our award nominees light the way for 00:51:44.640 --> 00:51:47.176 others to follow. This is why our youth 00:51:47.200 --> 00:51:49.016 awards are so important. They reflect 00:51:49.040 --> 00:51:50.696 Kingston's values of inclusion, equity, 00:51:50.720 --> 00:51:52.535 and well-being. And they highlight young 00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:54.216 leaders who are shaping our unique, 00:51:54.240 --> 00:51:56.776 connected, and thriving city. They 00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:58.055 remind us that when young people are 00:51:58.079 --> 00:51:59.496 supported, entire communities are 00:51:59.520 --> 00:52:01.976 strengthened. To all our nominees, you 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:03.976 inspire not just your peers, but every 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:05.896 one of us in the chamber. And on behalf 00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:07.176 of council and the community, we thank 00:52:07.200 --> 00:52:08.456 you for your resilience, your passion, 00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:10.055 and your leadership. And you're the 00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:11.496 future of Kingston. And tonight, we 00:52:11.520 --> 00:52:14.520 celebrate you. 00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:16.456 Thank you, Council Law. Are there any 00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:19.480 other counselors? 00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:22.535 I will put that to the vote. All those 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:24.456 in favor 00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:27.480 that is carried unanimously. Thank you. 00:52:27.520 --> 00:52:30.216 We'll move on to item 8.2, the community 00:52:30.240 --> 00:52:33.176 awards and recognition review. 00:52:33.200 --> 00:52:36.200 I think council s got that. I think he 00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.176 got it. I think he got it. He was up 00:52:39.200 --> 00:52:40.295 before him. 00:52:40.319 --> 00:52:42.616 I'd just like to move recommended motion 00:52:42.640 --> 00:52:43.976 please. 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:45.016 The sorry 00:52:45.040 --> 00:52:45.896 recommendation. 00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:47.896 Thank you. as it appears in the agenda. 00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:50.920 Thank you. Do I have a seconder? 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:55.079 Councelor O'Donnell 00:52:55.359 --> 00:52:56.856 reserve. Thank you. Councelor sub. 00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:57.815 Councelor O'Donnell, do you wish to 00:52:57.839 --> 00:52:59.256 speak to the motion? Are there any 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:00.376 councilors wishing to speak to the 00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:03.400 motion? Councelor Revanus. 00:53:07.040 --> 00:53:07.976 Oh, 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:11.000 it will. Yeah, just 00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.535 No, it's Try again. 00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:16.776 There we go. There we go. Thank you, 00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:19.800 Madame Mayor. So, um I move that um 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.656 foreshadowing that if this motion 00:53:23.680 --> 00:53:26.535 doesn't go through, I would like to u 00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:29.416 move option two under the community 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:30.776 awards. 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:31.656 Is that okay? 00:53:31.680 --> 00:53:33.416 Yes. Thank you, councelor Reanita. So, 00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:34.936 if this motion is lost, we'll then come 00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:36.776 to you to move a further motion if this 00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:37.896 is 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.535 Thank you. Any other councilors wishing 00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:43.559 to speak to the motion? 00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:47.400 Yes, Council White. 00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:50.616 Thank you. I'd like to put up um an 00:53:50.640 --> 00:53:52.456 amendment. 00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:54.136 So, just because we don't have the 00:53:54.160 --> 00:53:55.976 screen, are you able to read your 00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:57.016 amendment? 00:53:57.040 --> 00:53:59.176 I don't think I have it. Can are you 00:53:59.200 --> 00:54:00.776 able to read it out for me? 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:03.800 So, I have foreshadowed two amendments. 00:54:04.240 --> 00:54:04.856 Um 00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:06.216 are you wishing to move both of those 00:54:06.240 --> 00:54:07.896 amendments as you foreshadowed earlier? 00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:10.136 Well, the bianual one work, does it? 00:54:10.160 --> 00:54:10.776 Correct. 00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:12.776 So, just the 10% one. 00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:15.800 Okay. So that is for counselors that is 00:54:16.160 --> 00:54:19.160 an additional 0.4 00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.760 or it would be a point 4. So there would 00:54:23.040 --> 00:54:24.776 yeah that's it. so this would be a 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:27.800 point4 endorse a 10% reduction to the 00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:30.136 overall events delivery budget for the 00:54:30.160 --> 00:54:32.616 community awards youth awards and women 00:54:32.640 --> 00:54:35.640 of the year awards events. 00:54:36.240 --> 00:54:38.776 Is that acceptable councelor Saab as the 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:41.095 mover? No. So given that it's not 00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:43.575 acceptable to the mover, you will have 00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:45.896 to move it as an amendment. So do I have 00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:47.736 a seconder for that amendment this 00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:50.760 evening? Councelor Agatan. Thank you. 00:54:51.680 --> 00:54:53.815 That is moved. Councelor White seconded. 00:54:53.839 --> 00:54:55.736 Councelor Agatan. 00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:57.575 Do you wish to speak to your amendment? 00:54:57.599 --> 00:54:59.256 So it's the amendment only. 00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:01.656 Um yep. So this was just looking at I 00:55:01.680 --> 00:55:03.416 think um Georgia and I would have 00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:06.440 preferred option two which was about a 00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.559 um Eric counselor of needy. Sorry. Um, 00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:12.055 I can't remember Howe much the 00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:14.376 savings was, 00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:16.295 29,000. 00:55:16.319 --> 00:55:18.456 Um, and that's obviously probably not 00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:20.376 going to get through. So, if it doesn't 00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:23.400 um, this is just a 10% savings. Um, and 00:55:23.839 --> 00:55:26.839 when we spoke with um, ELT Kate Waters 00:55:27.359 --> 00:55:30.216 um, tonight, she said um, that a 10% 00:55:30.240 --> 00:55:33.240 savings on those events um, won't 00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:36.760 make a difference to the event. Um, 00:55:38.240 --> 00:55:41.240 I do need to clarify that what Miss 00:55:42.240 --> 00:55:44.216 Waters did say was that it would impact 00:55:44.240 --> 00:55:46.776 the event and it would have an impact, 00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:49.176 but the events would be minimal. So, 00:55:49.200 --> 00:55:50.136 just to clarify, 00:55:50.160 --> 00:55:52.775 well, it it's $7,000, so it's only going 00:55:52.799 --> 00:55:55.575 to be minimal on a nearly $80,000 00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:58.599 budget, but what um it pardon? 00:55:59.680 --> 00:56:00.456 No. 00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:03.480 Um, so people speak and then I get lost. 00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:06.535 It's okay. It's okay. Keep going. Um 00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.559 yeah, cuz when um the the budget came 00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:12.376 through um in terms of I know Morial 00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:14.936 Alecfest, we cut more than 10% off that 00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:17.960 quite easily. And um if we cut 10% off 00:56:18.160 --> 00:56:21.160 all events, we'd save our community $1.3 00:56:21.520 --> 00:56:24.520 million. So $7,000 is a start. And I 00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:27.496 think if we can um look to do that, but 00:56:27.520 --> 00:56:30.520 still be providing events and um it's 00:56:30.640 --> 00:56:33.016 only a win for the community. 00:56:33.040 --> 00:56:34.535 Thank you, Council White. Council 00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:35.736 Agatan, do you wish to speak to the 00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.136 amendment? Reserve. Are there any other 00:56:38.160 --> 00:56:39.496 councilors wishing to speak to the 00:56:39.520 --> 00:56:42.520 amendment? Councelor Saab. 00:56:42.640 --> 00:56:44.775 Thank you, Mayor. I'm not supportive of 00:56:44.799 --> 00:56:46.295 this particular amendment for a number 00:56:46.319 --> 00:56:48.616 of reasons. Firstly, our community has 00:56:48.640 --> 00:56:50.535 on multiple occasions both at the 00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.456 community awards events that we 00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:54.616 attend but also in other feedback 00:56:54.640 --> 00:56:56.376 that we receive um through a number of 00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:57.815 years especially to the ones who attend 00:56:57.839 --> 00:56:59.815 these events that these events are 00:56:59.839 --> 00:57:01.016 actually a time of really great 00:57:01.040 --> 00:57:02.616 celebration. It's good for bringing our 00:57:02.640 --> 00:57:04.295 community together. They've actually 00:57:04.319 --> 00:57:05.976 told us they wanted more of these 00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.616 things, not less of these things. 00:57:08.640 --> 00:57:11.575 and as councelor White has pointed out, 00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:14.136 10% on a reduction on these events, on 00:57:14.160 --> 00:57:16.216 this particular set of events, is only a 00:57:16.240 --> 00:57:19.176 savings of $7,000. that isn't some 00:57:19.200 --> 00:57:21.976 if we if we're looking to cut costs and 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:23.335 try to be a bit more financially, 00:57:23.359 --> 00:57:25.256 fiscally responsible in other areas. We 00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:26.456 can actually look at things that are 00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:27.976 costing us a lot more. We can look at 00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:29.176 our service deliveries. We can look at 00:57:29.200 --> 00:57:30.775 our capital works expenditure and 00:57:30.799 --> 00:57:33.256 processes into our forward plan, our 00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:35.016 five and 10 year forward capital works 00:57:35.040 --> 00:57:36.936 plan to ensure that we are spending 00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:39.095 wisely. We just adopted our budget. Our 00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:41.335 budget was approved um with funding to 00:57:41.359 --> 00:57:42.856 be able to continue to run these type of 00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.496 events at the scale and style that they 00:57:45.520 --> 00:57:47.976 currently operate. Um we did just go 00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:49.736 through a pretty significant review on 00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.760 our awards. Um those awards again were 00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:55.335 informed by community consultation and 00:57:55.359 --> 00:57:58.216 feedback to bring them in line with 00:57:58.240 --> 00:58:01.240 a structured set of understanding 00:58:01.839 --> 00:58:03.575 that our community can go can 00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:05.896 appreciate. Those were our community 00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:08.920 wards being on um women women's 00:58:09.200 --> 00:58:12.200 day um on our volunteer week and 00:58:12.319 --> 00:58:14.055 across all of the other opportunities 00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:16.456 that exist for our wards. Um, I don't 00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:18.295 think a reduction in 10% in this 00:58:18.319 --> 00:58:19.896 instance is actually going to be of 00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:22.376 benefit to our community. especially 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:23.815 when they have told us on numerous 00:58:23.839 --> 00:58:25.976 occasions that they want to see more 00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:28.616 of them. And we not long ago, if I 00:58:28.640 --> 00:58:31.640 recall, approved um, on the back of 00:58:32.160 --> 00:58:33.736 the women of the year awards another 00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:35.575 motion that was to actually promote more 00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:37.335 opportunities for our community to come 00:58:37.359 --> 00:58:40.055 together. So, for those reasons, I can't 00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:41.976 support this. I understand that this 00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:43.575 council wants to move into the direction 00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:45.736 of being a bit more fiscally responsible 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:47.016 and maybe we can have those 00:58:47.040 --> 00:58:48.936 conversations and discussions on the 00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:50.696 broader budget discussion that we have 00:58:50.720 --> 00:58:52.775 or when we do those reviews. I'm also 00:58:52.799 --> 00:58:54.616 conscious I can't see a timer. Sorry. 00:58:54.640 --> 00:58:55.896 Thank you. 00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:57.896 Thank you. You had 50 seconds left. So 00:58:57.920 --> 00:58:59.736 you're doing well. 00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:02.136 Thank you. councelor Reanitus on the 00:59:02.160 --> 00:59:05.160 amendment. 00:59:05.839 --> 00:59:08.839 Thank you Madame Mayor. Um we have many 00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:12.920 awards and each of them are very 00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:15.960 important. the cost to run each award 00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.775 is increasing as the cost of living does 00:59:18.799 --> 00:59:21.416 and more award awards have been endorsed 00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:24.440 by council. Um it is this reason that um 00:59:25.839 --> 00:59:28.456 I think that it's better that 00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:31.480 um all these awards that that as um 00:59:31.520 --> 00:59:34.216 councelor Saab has has said that people 00:59:34.240 --> 00:59:37.240 want more of that yes we we run more of 00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:40.696 them but run them every second year 00:59:40.720 --> 00:59:43.720 because of the cost. Um with option two 00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:47.335 I'll just go there quickly now. That 00:59:47.359 --> 00:59:49.736 would save $29,000. 00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:52.295 That's quite a big saving. Um, on top 00:59:52.319 --> 00:59:55.319 of, you know, 10% is only 7,000. So, 00:59:57.200 --> 00:59:59.416 that's what I think. I I just think that 00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:01.736 they should be run every second year. 01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:04.760 Not only just because of the cost, but 01:00:04.799 --> 01:00:07.416 running these events is really labor 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.440 intensive and as has been sHowen in one 01:00:10.799 --> 01:00:12.856 of the awards that we couldn't even 01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:15.880 raise um enough nominees. so there 01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.376 was say only one winner because there 01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:21.176 was one nominee. So running them every 01:00:21.200 --> 01:00:23.575 second year alternatively gives us more 01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:26.295 recruitment time to get more nominees 01:00:26.319 --> 01:00:28.775 happening as well. So it's not just the 01:00:28.799 --> 01:00:31.176 cost, it's the labor that's involved, 01:00:31.200 --> 01:00:34.200 it's the the recruitment involved and so 01:00:34.720 --> 01:00:37.256 on. So thank you. 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:38.856 Thank you councelor Revitus. Are there 01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:41.575 any other counselors on the amendment? 01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:44.599 Councelor Law. 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:48.295 Thank you, Mayor. regarding the 01:00:48.319 --> 01:00:49.976 amendment, our community has told us 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:51.416 they deeply value Howe Kingston 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.656 celebrates local achievers. So, rather 01:00:53.680 --> 01:00:55.575 than decommission or reduce recognition, 01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:57.095 we need to ensure we continue honoring 01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:59.656 the contributions of individuals that 01:00:59.680 --> 01:01:02.055 they make across our municipality. And 01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.136 council can always adopt and and does 01:01:04.160 --> 01:01:05.736 adopt continuous improvement practices 01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:07.976 that explores cost-effective new and 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.136 innovative ways to deliver events. 01:01:10.160 --> 01:01:12.136 council. It proactively plans for 01:01:12.160 --> 01:01:13.736 efficient events. We should sHowe civic 01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:15.575 leadership by protecting the principles 01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:18.055 of recognition or demonstrating fiscal 01:01:18.079 --> 01:01:20.216 prudence. It strikes the right balance 01:01:20.240 --> 01:01:21.815 between fiscal responsibility and living 01:01:21.839 --> 01:01:23.256 up to our vision of being a unique, 01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:26.280 connected and thriving city. 01:01:26.319 --> 01:01:28.136 Thank you, Council Law. Councelor 01:01:28.160 --> 01:01:31.016 Thanos, did you you're okay. Any other 01:01:31.040 --> 01:01:34.040 councilors on the amendment? 01:01:35.680 --> 01:01:37.095 If there are none, I will put the 01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.095 amendment to the vote. And the amendment 01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:42.119 is that we endorse a 10% reduction to 01:01:42.240 --> 01:01:43.976 the overall events delivery budget for 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:45.815 the community awards, youth awards, and 01:01:45.839 --> 01:01:48.216 women of the year awards. I will put 01:01:48.240 --> 01:01:50.136 that to the vote. All those in favor of 01:01:50.160 --> 01:01:52.376 the amendment, 01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:54.696 that is council Agatan, councelor White, 01:01:54.720 --> 01:01:57.575 councelor Reanus, and councelor Howe. All 01:01:57.599 --> 01:01:59.496 those against, 01:01:59.520 --> 01:02:01.496 councelor O'Donnell, councelor Law, 01:02:01.520 --> 01:02:03.176 Councelor Athanosopoulos, councelor 01:02:03.200 --> 01:02:05.256 Ashworth Collett, councelor Saab, and 01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:08.280 myself. and the amendment is lost. We'll 01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:11.335 move back to the substantive. So that is 01:02:11.359 --> 01:02:13.416 the officer recommendation as printed in 01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:16.216 the agenda. Are there any other 01:02:16.240 --> 01:02:17.656 councilors wishing to speak to the 01:02:17.680 --> 01:02:19.976 substantive motion? Councelor 01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:23.000 Athanosopoulos. 01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:25.016 I thought I'd save everybody from 01:02:25.040 --> 01:02:27.416 listening to my voice twice. Um, I think 01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:29.896 it's important that when we are going 01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:32.920 through a struggle, if the community is, 01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:35.335 it's these types of things that actually 01:02:35.359 --> 01:02:37.736 are most important for them. They get to 01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:39.335 be recognized for what they do. It 01:02:39.359 --> 01:02:40.616 doesn't just impact the person that's 01:02:40.640 --> 01:02:42.535 recognized. It impacts a wider community 01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:44.535 of people that they've supported, 01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:47.176 potentially being involved with. and 01:02:47.200 --> 01:02:50.055 it has massive impacts on our community, 01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:51.335 especially when people are doing it 01:02:51.359 --> 01:02:53.815 tough. So I think it's critical that if 01:02:53.839 --> 01:02:55.496 anything we should be trying to invest 01:02:55.520 --> 01:02:57.416 as I wouldn't say as much as we possibly 01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:00.136 can necesSaabily in those words but we 01:03:00.160 --> 01:03:02.376 shouldn't be looking at ways of um 01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:04.055 saving in this area. There is other 01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:06.136 opportunities for council to do that. I 01:03:06.160 --> 01:03:08.295 think it is good that council is taking 01:03:08.319 --> 01:03:09.815 the opportunity to reform things to 01:03:09.839 --> 01:03:11.575 package things up together to be smarter 01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:13.095 with Howe we actually put our awards 01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:15.095 together. It sHowes a continuous 01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:17.335 improvement attitude at the city of 01:03:17.359 --> 01:03:19.015 Kingston and that's what we have before 01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:21.496 us today. So, I support the fact 01:03:21.520 --> 01:03:23.976 that we've looked at this, that this 01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:25.575 recommendation has come to us, that 01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:27.496 there have been some improvements, and 01:03:27.520 --> 01:03:29.416 that we move forward with in line with 01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:30.936 what our community wants and expects, 01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:33.176 which is to do it in the way that is 01:03:33.200 --> 01:03:35.335 presented tonight. 01:03:35.359 --> 01:03:37.256 Thank you, Councelor Thanos. Are there 01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:38.616 any other counselors wishing to speak to 01:03:38.640 --> 01:03:41.640 the motion? councelor White, yes, 01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:44.376 you can speak to the motion. 01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:47.015 Um, so 01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:48.856 doing it by annually when I had a look 01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:51.496 at it as well, you could have also made 01:03:51.520 --> 01:03:54.520 um I think about an 80 or $90,000 01:03:54.799 --> 01:03:57.176 savings. Um, now some of these 01:03:57.200 --> 01:03:59.575 volunteers, they work with the most 01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:02.136 vulnerable in our community. And when I 01:04:02.160 --> 01:04:04.856 go down to um these places where they 01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:07.335 volunteer, they said, you know, it's not 01:04:07.359 --> 01:04:10.359 just, you know, a single parent coming 01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:13.335 in anymore. This is families that are 01:04:13.359 --> 01:04:15.335 coming in. We know from our own data 01:04:15.359 --> 01:04:18.359 that two out of 10 people can't put food 01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:20.616 on the table. And I think that if we ask 01:04:20.640 --> 01:04:22.295 some of these volunteers, what would 01:04:22.319 --> 01:04:24.535 they prefer? Would they prefer to 01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:27.559 celebrate every second year um and you 01:04:27.839 --> 01:04:29.815 know be able to provide our community 01:04:29.839 --> 01:04:32.839 with $90,000 worth of food on the table 01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:35.176 people that are struggling? I think I 01:04:35.200 --> 01:04:38.200 know what the answer to that would be. 01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:39.976 Thank you, Councelor White. Are there 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:41.256 any other councilors wishing to speak to 01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:44.280 the motion? Councelor Law. 01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:48.535 Thank you, Mayor. 01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:50.295 Council has received overwhelmingly 01:04:50.319 --> 01:04:52.696 positive feedback from our community um 01:04:52.720 --> 01:04:55.720 about our recognition awards. 01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:57.656 residents have told us Howe uplifting it 01:04:57.680 --> 01:04:59.176 is to see Kingston publicly honor 01:04:59.200 --> 01:05:01.095 individuals and groups whose dedication 01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:03.736 advances our shared vision, giving our 01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:05.335 people the best opportunities to live 01:05:05.359 --> 01:05:08.136 healthy, contributing lives. This 01:05:08.160 --> 01:05:09.736 recognition reinforces that when we 01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:11.656 value our community members, they feel 01:05:11.680 --> 01:05:14.136 seen and supported and empowered to keep 01:05:14.160 --> 01:05:16.616 doing meaningful work. This is Howe we 01:05:16.640 --> 01:05:18.216 sHowe appreciation and send a message 01:05:18.240 --> 01:05:19.736 that Kingston values extraordinary 01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:22.760 contributions that our residents make. 01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:24.616 Research sHowes that recognition is more 01:05:24.640 --> 01:05:26.456 than feel-good optics. Community 01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:28.456 recognition builds social capital, 01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:30.295 strengthening networks, trust, and 01:05:30.319 --> 01:05:32.696 belonging across the municipality. 01:05:32.720 --> 01:05:34.535 Psychological studies find it enhances 01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:36.456 mental well-being and motivation, 01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:38.376 helping individuals to feel respected, 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:39.896 connected, and driven to continue 01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:42.295 contributing in our community clubs, 01:05:42.319 --> 01:05:44.535 groups, and organizations. Recognition 01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:46.535 boosts productivity, morale, and 01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:48.535 retention, and positive outcomes we know 01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:50.775 translate across any caring, values 01:05:50.799 --> 01:05:52.295 organization. 01:05:52.319 --> 01:05:54.216 Our recognition ceremonies yield immense 01:05:54.240 --> 01:05:56.535 value. Their investments in community 01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:58.136 cohesion, inspiration, and inclusion, 01:05:58.160 --> 01:06:00.216 and well-being. Removing them would 01:06:00.240 --> 01:06:01.815 weaken the very social bonds that make 01:06:01.839 --> 01:06:03.416 Kingston unique, connected, and 01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:05.815 thriving. Instead, let's recommmit to 01:06:05.839 --> 01:06:07.095 celebrating those who carry our 01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:08.616 community forward and continue creating 01:06:08.640 --> 01:06:11.640 a culture where everyone can flourish. 01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:13.736 Regarding concerns about cost, 01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:15.736 recognition events cost little compared 01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:17.416 to the social and cultural benefits they 01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:19.815 deliver. The community feedback is 01:06:19.839 --> 01:06:21.896 clear. We have overwhelming support to 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:23.496 continue these events. Abolishing them 01:06:23.520 --> 01:06:25.656 would ignore that voice. 01:06:25.680 --> 01:06:27.575 This is a social capital investment and 01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:29.015 recognition strengthens networks, 01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:31.416 belonging and trust and this reduces 01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:33.015 social isolation and improves 01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:35.095 well-being. 01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:36.775 Inspiration is multiplied because each 01:06:36.799 --> 01:06:39.416 award inspires dozens of others, youth, 01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.095 women, carers and multicultural groups 01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:44.119 to keep striving. 01:06:44.799 --> 01:06:46.775 We also find that civic participation 01:06:46.799 --> 01:06:48.775 increases when others are recognized and 01:06:48.799 --> 01:06:50.936 council's credibility in recognizing 01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:52.456 others sends a strong message that we 01:06:52.480 --> 01:06:55.095 value our own achievers. The cost of not 01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:57.335 recognizing our individual contributors 01:06:57.359 --> 01:06:59.656 far risks further disengagement, 01:06:59.680 --> 01:07:01.335 burnout and loss of civic pride which is 01:07:01.359 --> 01:07:03.176 far costlier in the long run. Thank you 01:07:03.200 --> 01:07:05.335 mayor. 01:07:05.359 --> 01:07:06.696 Thank you council law. Are there any 01:07:06.720 --> 01:07:09.720 other counselors? 01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:11.896 Councelor S. do you wish to close? Thank 01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:13.815 you. I'll put that to the vote. All 01:07:13.839 --> 01:07:16.839 those in favor 01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:18.856 that is councelor O'Donnell, councelor 01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:20.936 Law, councelor Athanosopoulos, councelor 01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:22.775 Ashworth Collett, councelor Howe, 01:07:22.799 --> 01:07:25.176 councelor Saab and myself. All those 01:07:25.200 --> 01:07:28.136 against is councelor Agatan, councelor 01:07:28.160 --> 01:07:30.535 White and councelor irreus and that is 01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:32.295 carried. 01:07:32.319 --> 01:07:33.976 Thank you councilors. We'll move to item 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.535 9.1 response to resolution notice of 01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:39.256 motion road conditions in Kingston. Do I 01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:42.280 have a motion? 01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:45.960 Councilan the office of recommendation a 01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:48.616 seconder councelor Evanus thank you do 01:07:48.640 --> 01:07:51.176 you wish to speak to the motion 01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:52.696 any councilors wishing to speak to the 01:07:52.720 --> 01:07:55.015 motion 01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:57.176 I will put that to the vote all those in 01:07:57.200 --> 01:07:59.095 favor 01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:01.896 that is carried unanimously 01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:04.216 item 9.2 Two response to resolution 01:08:04.240 --> 01:08:06.216 notice of motion nature strip rubbish 01:08:06.240 --> 01:08:07.815 dumping outside of hard rubbish 01:08:07.839 --> 01:08:10.295 collections. Councelor law the officer 01:08:10.319 --> 01:08:12.216 recommendation. Do I have a seconder? 01:08:12.240 --> 01:08:14.696 Councelor Aanosopoulos. 01:08:14.720 --> 01:08:16.456 Council law. Do you wish to speak to the 01:08:16.480 --> 01:08:18.856 motion? Councilorosopouloolis. 01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:20.295 Any councilors wishing to speak to the 01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:21.976 motion? 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:23.735 I will put that to the vote. All those 01:08:23.759 --> 01:08:26.759 in favor? 01:08:26.799 --> 01:08:29.799 That is carried unanimously. Thank you. 01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:33.159 Item 9.3, the asset plan, the draft for 01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:35.896 public exhibition. Do I have a motion? 01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:37.255 Council Agatan, the office of 01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:39.896 recommendation. A seconder, councelor 01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:42.056 Ashworth, Collett. 01:08:42.080 --> 01:08:44.616 Any discussion required? 01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:47.096 Any other councilors? 01:08:47.120 --> 01:08:49.175 I will put that to the vote. All those 01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:52.199 in favor? 01:08:52.719 --> 01:08:54.376 That is councelor Agatan, councelor 01:08:54.400 --> 01:08:56.536 O'Donnell, councelor Law, councelor 01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:58.376 Athanosopouloolis, councelor Ashworth 01:08:58.400 --> 01:09:00.456 Collett, councelor Reanitus, councelor 01:09:00.480 --> 01:09:03.480 Howe and myself. All those against and 01:09:03.839 --> 01:09:06.839 abstaining, councelor White and that is 01:09:07.040 --> 01:09:08.856 carried. 01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:11.576 Item 9.4 is the award of contract 01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:13.576 provision of beach sand maintenance 01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:16.600 services. Do I have a motion? 01:09:17.040 --> 01:09:18.135 Councelor Law, the office of 01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:20.295 recommendation. Do I have a seconder? 01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:22.295 Councelor O'Donnell, do you wish to 01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:25.096 speak to the motion? Reserve. Any other 01:09:25.120 --> 01:09:27.896 councilors? 01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:30.056 I will put that to the vote. All those 01:09:30.080 --> 01:09:33.016 in favor? 01:09:33.040 --> 01:09:35.255 That is councelor Agatan, councelor 01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:37.096 White, councelor O'Donnell, councelor 01:09:37.120 --> 01:09:39.255 Law, councelor Thanosopoulos, councelor 01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:41.335 Ashworth, Collett, councelor Ravenus, 01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.359 and myself. All those against and 01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:47.880 abstaining, councelor Howe. And I declare 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:50.536 that carried. 01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:53.560 Item 9.5, the suburban rail loop tree 01:09:53.839 --> 01:09:56.616 canopy replacement funding proposal. Do 01:09:56.640 --> 01:09:59.576 I have a motion? Councelor Revenus, the 01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:01.655 officer recommendation. 01:10:01.679 --> 01:10:04.679 Councelor Ethanosopolis seconding. 01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:06.215 Councelor Reanus, do you wish to speak 01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:09.239 to the motion? Councelor Thanos reserve. 01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:11.496 Any other councilors wishing to speak to 01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:13.655 this motion? 01:10:13.679 --> 01:10:15.896 I will put that to the vote. All those 01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:18.456 in favor? 01:10:18.480 --> 01:10:21.016 That is carried unanimously. 01:10:21.040 --> 01:10:23.016 Thank you. 01:10:23.040 --> 01:10:25.655 Item 9.6, better buses for Kingston 01:10:25.679 --> 01:10:28.376 consultation and advocacy. Do I have a 01:10:28.400 --> 01:10:29.896 motion? 01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:31.576 Councelor Aranitus, the office of 01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:33.336 recommendation. 01:10:33.360 --> 01:10:36.360 Councelor Agatan seconding. Thank you. 01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:37.816 Councelor Reanitas, do you wish to speak 01:10:37.840 --> 01:10:40.840 to the motion? Councilor Agatan. 01:10:41.280 --> 01:10:43.496 Any other counselors on this item? 01:10:43.520 --> 01:10:46.520 Council Law. 01:10:49.679 --> 01:10:51.496 Thank you, Mayor. I just want to quickly 01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:53.175 acknowledge the community's strong calls 01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:55.416 for better bus services particularly 01:10:55.440 --> 01:10:57.496 around the Morty Aquatic Center. I 01:10:57.520 --> 01:10:59.096 have spoken with council staff regarding 01:10:59.120 --> 01:11:00.616 these concerns, especially along 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:03.096 Governor Road and that with the 01:11:03.120 --> 01:11:04.456 construction and then opening of the 01:11:04.480 --> 01:11:06.856 Morty Aquatic Center that there is 01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:09.256 desire amongst the community to increase 01:11:09.280 --> 01:11:11.256 um the shelter provisions along Governor 01:11:11.280 --> 01:11:12.695 Road. And I've spoke just want to 01:11:12.719 --> 01:11:14.056 confirm that I have spoken with staff 01:11:14.080 --> 01:11:16.056 regarding this and hopefully that the 01:11:16.080 --> 01:11:18.856 better buses for Kingston um will assist 01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:21.256 in this regard. Thank you. Thank you 01:11:21.280 --> 01:11:22.536 council law. Are there any other 01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:23.736 councils on this matter? Council 01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:25.896 Ashworth Collett. 01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:27.496 I'd like to thank the staff for their 01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:29.416 great work on this. Over three weeks 01:11:29.440 --> 01:11:31.096 there was consultation with residents 01:11:31.120 --> 01:11:33.175 and they clearly told us that they want 01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:35.896 more frequent stops, longer hours and 01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:38.456 more safe safety. 01:11:38.480 --> 01:11:40.856 Um they also told us that buses don't 01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:43.880 run long enough in the evenings and that 01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:45.655 new routes should be considered to 01:11:45.679 --> 01:11:48.679 connect Kingston better. Um I also sit 01:11:49.120 --> 01:11:51.016 on the youth advisory committee and it 01:11:51.040 --> 01:11:53.175 was inspirational to sit down and watch 01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:55.576 them as they knew exactly what is needed 01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:58.600 in our community. Um so having better 01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:01.655 buses like this is a equitable thing in 01:12:01.679 --> 01:12:03.576 our communities for the youth, seniors 01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:05.655 and people living with diSaabilities and 01:12:05.679 --> 01:12:07.576 those also without cars and those 01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:08.856 wanting to do the right thing by 01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:10.376 climate. 01:12:10.400 --> 01:12:12.776 So, it's very timely at the moment that 01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:14.376 the council staff have put this together 01:12:14.400 --> 01:12:16.376 with the state budget planning underway 01:12:16.400 --> 01:12:19.016 and the 2026 election on the rides. 01:12:19.040 --> 01:12:21.096 Right moment to put this forward and I 01:12:21.120 --> 01:12:22.536 want to thank all of the Kingston staff 01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:24.296 for their excellent work bring this 01:12:24.320 --> 01:12:26.456 forward to us and I strongly support 01:12:26.480 --> 01:12:27.736 this activist work. 01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:29.655 Thank you. Thank you councelor Ashworth 01:12:29.679 --> 01:12:31.096 Collett. Any other councils on this 01:12:31.120 --> 01:12:33.896 matter? Councelor Atanosopouloolis. 01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:36.056 I was fortunate enough to work on a 01:12:36.080 --> 01:12:37.736 council where you actually had three 01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:40.760 different primary modes of transport 01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:42.856 that included trams. In the city of 01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:44.616 Kingston, we just don't have that second 01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:47.640 one, which is important. Why? Because 01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:50.856 buses are that other one. It's important 01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:52.616 that we have these connections and that 01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:54.296 they run at the appropriate time if 01:12:54.320 --> 01:12:56.776 we're going to see a shift in people 01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:59.496 using multiple modes of transport as I 01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:01.096 do and probably many other people do 01:13:01.120 --> 01:13:02.936 from their personal car to potentially 01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:04.296 their bike to potentially public 01:13:04.320 --> 01:13:07.320 transport or whatever else. The key 01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:10.600 ingredient is Howe often it comes, Howe 01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:14.135 efficient it is to get there. Those two 01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:16.376 things are the most important. Then you 01:13:16.400 --> 01:13:18.536 have extra extra parts is obviously 01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:20.296 around safety. there will be safety in 01:13:20.320 --> 01:13:22.376 numbers um and all those sorts of things 01:13:22.400 --> 01:13:24.536 and we are actually advocating for 01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:26.536 improved stations and those sorts of 01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:28.376 things. It's great that we've identified 01:13:28.400 --> 01:13:30.296 short-term wins that we think that the 01:13:30.320 --> 01:13:33.016 government can enact pretty quick and 01:13:33.040 --> 01:13:35.576 also some of those longerterm um 01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:38.600 improvements in the system. I would 01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:42.360 encourage and I'm sure our officers are 01:13:42.400 --> 01:13:45.336 that all councils especially that are 01:13:45.360 --> 01:13:47.256 pocketed amongst each other work 01:13:47.280 --> 01:13:49.096 collaboratively to make sure that we 01:13:49.120 --> 01:13:51.896 actually are speaking in one voice to 01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:53.416 the government so that we can see some 01:13:53.440 --> 01:13:55.655 of these things actually happen. Thanks. 01:13:55.679 --> 01:13:57.336 Thank you councelor Thanosopoulos. Are 01:13:57.360 --> 01:13:58.616 there any other counselors wishing to 01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:01.096 speak? 01:14:01.120 --> 01:14:03.256 Before I ask councelor Reanitus if you 01:14:03.280 --> 01:14:05.976 wish to close, I'll just add that it was 01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:07.976 very interesting to meet with one of our 01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:09.976 bus suppliers based locally actually 01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:11.655 here in Kingston at the beginning of the 01:14:11.679 --> 01:14:14.056 year and they provided some interesting 01:14:14.080 --> 01:14:16.456 insights into the challenges that they 01:14:16.480 --> 01:14:19.416 face in delivering more bus services, 01:14:19.440 --> 01:14:21.816 the challenges that they face in 01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:23.736 getting those services on weekends which 01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:26.616 has been a particular concern. Um and 01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:27.976 that's the feedback that's been raised 01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:31.000 by our community. So, I I think it would 01:14:31.040 --> 01:14:33.896 be beneficial for those who make 01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:36.296 these bus routes, which isn't the city 01:14:36.320 --> 01:14:39.096 of Kingston, um for those that do make 01:14:39.120 --> 01:14:41.096 the bus routes decide the timets to 01:14:41.120 --> 01:14:42.536 actually engage and see what those 01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:44.936 problems are because I know that local 01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:47.576 government would be happy to assist in 01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:49.256 fixing some of those problems. And one 01:14:49.280 --> 01:14:52.135 of those issues was with the use of 01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:55.159 the battery buses. Um the need for them 01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:58.616 to charge more often on the longer 01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:01.640 routes is more difficult in remoter 01:15:02.239 --> 01:15:04.776 locations as they hit the end of those 01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:07.496 routes. So it's it was interesting 01:15:07.520 --> 01:15:09.256 engaging with them and hearing firsthand 01:15:09.280 --> 01:15:11.896 the challenges that they face. Um but 01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:13.576 think that that would be certainly 01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:15.416 something I would urge the government to 01:15:15.440 --> 01:15:17.576 do to engage with them and see what can 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:19.016 be done because it's very clear from the 01:15:19.040 --> 01:15:21.175 consultation that we've done that there 01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:22.536 are some changes that need to be made 01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:24.135 locally to support our residents in 01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:26.536 getting around. Councelor Reanita, do 01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:29.560 you wish to close? 01:15:29.679 --> 01:15:32.376 Thank you Madame Mayor. Um just to say 01:15:32.400 --> 01:15:34.776 that I concur with my fellow counselors 01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:36.616 and I think that they spoke well to the 01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:38.296 motion. So thank you. 01:15:38.320 --> 01:15:40.456 Thank you councelor Revenitus. I will 01:15:40.480 --> 01:15:42.135 put that to the vote. All those in 01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:44.376 favor. 01:15:44.400 --> 01:15:47.400 That is carried unanimously. Thank you. 01:15:48.320 --> 01:15:50.776 Item 9.7, the Suburban Rail Loop, 01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:53.096 Chelenham Public Open Space, Sir William 01:15:53.120 --> 01:15:55.496 Fry Reserve. Councelor Saab, the office 01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:58.296 of recommendation. A seconder, Councelor 01:15:58.320 --> 01:16:01.320 Aanosopoulos. Councelor S. 01:16:04.320 --> 01:16:06.776 Thank you, Mayor. Um, we we all know 01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:08.856 that the suburban rail loop is a once in 01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:11.336 a generation project, but let me just be 01:16:11.360 --> 01:16:14.135 very clear. Projects of this scale must 01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:16.135 not come at the expense of our local 01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:18.456 community. Council entered into 01:16:18.480 --> 01:16:19.655 agreements with the state government 01:16:19.679 --> 01:16:21.655 through the EES process and otherwise 01:16:21.679 --> 01:16:23.736 and the suburban rail loop authority. 01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:25.416 These arrangements must be honored. 01:16:25.440 --> 01:16:27.256 Replacement of land within Sir William 01:16:27.280 --> 01:16:28.536 Fire Reserve is not a matter of 01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:30.215 negotiation. It is a matter of 01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:33.239 commitment. Yes, SRLA has engaged with 01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:36.616 us respectfully, but there remains still 01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:39.640 serious issues. Their open space offset 01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:42.135 calculation doesn't add up. We risk 01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:44.296 permanently losing more land than than 01:16:44.320 --> 01:16:47.016 is being replaced. Key community assets 01:16:47.040 --> 01:16:49.576 have been left out. The playground, the 01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:52.600 lake, adequate drainage, new toilets, 01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:55.576 and car parking. the skate park is 01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:58.135 undersized and fails to meet regional 01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:01.159 needs. and the proposed offset land, the 01:17:01.199 --> 01:17:03.336 old gas work site is narrow and limited, 01:17:03.360 --> 01:17:05.576 and it is hardly a real substitute for 01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:07.976 the green space our growing community 01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:09.576 requires. 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:11.736 Chelenham, as we know now, is going to 01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:14.456 experience huge population growth. Our 01:17:14.480 --> 01:17:17.416 residents deserve more, not less, 01:17:17.440 --> 01:17:19.096 especially when it comes to open space 01:17:19.120 --> 01:17:22.120 and recreation. So with this item and 01:17:22.719 --> 01:17:23.976 with us adopting this particular 01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:25.096 position, I know a part of our 01:17:25.120 --> 01:17:27.336 submission is that is going towards 01:17:27.360 --> 01:17:29.175 their consultation and feedback of 01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:31.655 their SRLA. I am asking for the state 01:17:31.679 --> 01:17:34.679 government to seriously consider this 01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:38.600 approach um 01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:40.536 and to do sorry to consider this 01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:42.456 approach and to do the right thing that 01:17:42.480 --> 01:17:44.936 is to fix the offset calculations to 01:17:44.960 --> 01:17:47.016 deliver genuine like forl like open 01:17:47.040 --> 01:17:49.096 space and to invest properly in the 01:17:49.120 --> 01:17:50.695 upgrades our community has been 01:17:50.719 --> 01:17:53.016 promised. this is actually about 01:17:53.040 --> 01:17:55.736 trust. it's about fairness. and 01:17:55.760 --> 01:17:57.576 it's about ensuring that as Victorian 01:17:57.600 --> 01:17:59.736 builds for the future, we don't short 01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.760 change the people of Kingston today. Um 01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:05.336 this is just on Sir William Fry Reserve. 01:18:05.360 --> 01:18:07.496 but this also scales out to all the 01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:09.416 other indicated sites that the suburb 01:18:09.440 --> 01:18:11.576 and rail loop is um going to be 01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:13.976 consolidating namely in my ward that is 01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:17.000 the um stabling yard site and what was 01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:18.776 long earmarked to be open space 01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:20.776 reserves. It is the same in Sir William 01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:22.856 Fry Reserve and it is the same there. 01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:24.296 and we still do not have those 01:18:24.320 --> 01:18:26.215 commitments. and I'm urging the 01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:28.215 government to continue to fulfill their 01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:29.816 obligations and what is required of 01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:32.840 them. and to make those announcements 01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:35.416 to properly consult and to properly 01:18:35.440 --> 01:18:36.856 calculate and give us the offset 01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:38.936 requirements that is needed in the 01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:41.016 loss of this particular type of land. 01:18:41.040 --> 01:18:43.096 Thank you. 01:18:43.120 --> 01:18:44.456 Thank you councelor Saab. Councelor 01:18:44.480 --> 01:18:46.215 Aanosopoulos 01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:47.816 reserve. Are there any other councilors 01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:49.416 wishing to speak to this motion? 01:18:49.440 --> 01:18:52.440 Councelor Law. 01:18:52.480 --> 01:18:53.976 U Mayor, can I please ask a question 01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:56.856 through you? potentially to Mr. 01:18:56.880 --> 01:18:59.816 Goodman. Is there provision in this for 01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:02.840 a shared user path over Bay Road? 01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:10.776 through you, Madame Mayor. The the 01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:12.616 intention of this report is really 01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:15.640 twofold. One one is to deal with um a 01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:18.215 process that we are involved in with 01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:21.239 respect to um open space planning for um 01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:25.976 the SIM for reserve and the other is to 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.616 provide um our view to the state 01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:30.376 government with respect to replacement 01:19:30.400 --> 01:19:33.400 land. Um the shared user path is a 01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:35.096 principle that's embedded through the 01:19:35.120 --> 01:19:36.776 structure planning work that the state 01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:39.496 government's doing at the minute and in 01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:41.416 our submission and in the documentation 01:19:41.440 --> 01:19:43.736 that's been produced by the state 01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:45.256 government there is certainly the 01:19:45.280 --> 01:19:48.056 provision for a shared user path across 01:19:48.080 --> 01:19:51.080 Bay Road um to provide dual function. 01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:54.199 One is obviously to continue the the 01:19:54.480 --> 01:19:56.695 more prolonged shared user path network 01:19:56.719 --> 01:19:58.936 that we hope to create through Kingston. 01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:01.016 The other is also to provide connection 01:20:01.040 --> 01:20:02.936 from the existing Southland station 01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:05.960 location um over to the new SRL station. 01:20:06.400 --> 01:20:08.616 So there although this report doesn't 01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:11.640 specifically tackle the SUP over Bay 01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:14.936 Road um it has been sHowen in the SRL 01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:17.960 documentation to this. 01:20:18.320 --> 01:20:20.936 Thank you. 01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:22.056 Thank you. Are there any other 01:20:22.080 --> 01:20:23.336 councilors wishing to speak to this 01:20:23.360 --> 01:20:26.360 motion? 01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:29.560 Councelor Thanos 01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:33.000 reserve. I I do totally endorse 01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:36.296 councelor Saab's comments on this. I 01:20:36.320 --> 01:20:38.536 think the comment made around trust 01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:41.560 is important. Um when we know when 01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:44.296 someone does make a commitment and I 01:20:44.320 --> 01:20:45.976 think everyone in the room and in the 01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:47.896 community would agree that you want that 01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:50.056 to be honored. when we're doing 01:20:50.080 --> 01:20:52.695 calculations on something, I think it's 01:20:52.719 --> 01:20:55.719 pretty like if something's you you 01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:58.056 sort of can do Howeever many square 01:20:58.080 --> 01:20:59.736 meters or in this case hectares 01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:02.760 something is where we can go wrong is 01:21:03.199 --> 01:21:05.655 if a we're not using the same 01:21:05.679 --> 01:21:07.976 measurements and therefore get to a 01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:09.976 different number and maybe that's the 01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:13.000 case or if the instrument isn't provided 01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:16.920 so that we can um work out Howe that 01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:20.215 number has been arrived do and overlap 01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:22.456 it with our understanding of what 01:21:22.480 --> 01:21:23.736 potentially is going to be happening 01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:26.536 this in this site. We need that 01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:28.376 information so we can make our best 01:21:28.400 --> 01:21:30.376 judgment on what is fair and reasonable 01:21:30.400 --> 01:21:33.400 and if there is a trusted outcome 01:21:33.440 --> 01:21:36.440 achieved here and until we see it and 01:21:37.120 --> 01:21:40.056 can verify it, we will continue to fight 01:21:40.080 --> 01:21:41.816 for our community to ensure that they 01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:44.215 get what they deserve as a replacement 01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:47.016 for their space. If people are going to 01:21:47.040 --> 01:21:49.416 live in and around these new proposed 01:21:49.440 --> 01:21:52.135 stations, which we assume will have some 01:21:52.159 --> 01:21:54.215 form of density around them, hasn't been 01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:56.615 finalized yet, but there will be. Then 01:21:56.639 --> 01:21:57.896 we need to make sure that the spaces 01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:00.296 that they can recreate in, that they can 01:22:00.320 --> 01:22:02.215 congregate together with, that they 01:22:02.239 --> 01:22:03.896 bring their friends over to celebrate 01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:06.296 things with together, are appropriate 01:22:06.320 --> 01:22:08.856 and are replaced as per what the 01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:10.776 agreement says. So, I fully endorse 01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:12.695 what's being proposed by our officers 01:22:12.719 --> 01:22:14.615 here tonight. 01:22:14.639 --> 01:22:16.456 Thank you, Councelor Thanos. Any other 01:22:16.480 --> 01:22:19.175 councilors? 01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:21.896 Councelor Saab, do you wish to close? 01:22:21.920 --> 01:22:24.920 Thank you. Um, just to alleviate some of 01:22:25.440 --> 01:22:26.856 the concerns that was raised by 01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:28.776 councelor Law, I know this is 01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:30.695 specifically referring to as Mr. 01:22:30.719 --> 01:22:32.695 Goodman answered around our open space 01:22:32.719 --> 01:22:34.615 consultation, but part of our design 01:22:34.639 --> 01:22:35.736 that we went through and we were 01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:37.816 consulting with SRLA was looking at 01:22:37.840 --> 01:22:40.536 shared user paths. but also and and 01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:42.456 in reference to the last item when we 01:22:42.480 --> 01:22:44.456 were talking about better buses, it 01:22:44.480 --> 01:22:45.736 was also about looking where we could 01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:48.215 create a bus terminal here that would 01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:49.336 take that pressure off where it 01:22:49.360 --> 01:22:51.496 currently exists in Southland. And um it 01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:53.016 would be remiss of me not to acknowledge 01:22:53.040 --> 01:22:56.040 a lot of the um advice and feedback 01:22:56.320 --> 01:22:58.776 and advocacy of Peter Parker who is 01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:00.776 currently in the gallery today who had 01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:02.936 done a lot of the work in our bus 01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:05.096 advocacy um who was also well respected 01:23:05.120 --> 01:23:08.120 in DTP. but also just to particularly 01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:10.456 reference that that is part of where 01:23:10.480 --> 01:23:11.896 our submission is when we're looking 01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:13.496 at the open space design for for this 01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:16.520 space. Um I also just wanted to um 01:23:17.040 --> 01:23:18.856 endorse what councelor Thanos's 01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:21.655 endorsement of what I said was um around 01:23:21.679 --> 01:23:23.016 the fact that it is really important 01:23:23.040 --> 01:23:25.496 that open space is considered when we 01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:26.936 look at the density needs as we go 01:23:26.960 --> 01:23:29.960 forward. Um I finally just wanted to 01:23:30.400 --> 01:23:33.096 thank our officers for this 01:23:33.120 --> 01:23:35.175 particular submission. Our open Paul 01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:36.776 Marsden and Emily Boucher and the team 01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:38.056 for putting this particular report 01:23:38.080 --> 01:23:41.080 together. Um I I say that because in the 01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:43.496 space that we are currently in there is 01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:45.816 a whole slew of housing and planning 01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:48.135 reforms and things that are open and we 01:23:48.159 --> 01:23:50.376 are given deadlines short deadlines I 01:23:50.400 --> 01:23:51.736 should mention short deadlines after 01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:53.096 short deadlines to put these submissions 01:23:53.120 --> 01:23:54.776 together and make a submission different 01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:56.376 departments and authorities. So to put 01:23:56.400 --> 01:23:57.896 something really comprehensive like this 01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:00.296 that was based off some other for 01:24:00.320 --> 01:24:02.056 work that we had done behind the scenes 01:24:02.080 --> 01:24:03.416 in the leadup to this was really 01:24:03.440 --> 01:24:04.615 important. So just wanted to acknowledge 01:24:04.639 --> 01:24:07.336 their efforts. Um and that's it. Thank 01:24:07.360 --> 01:24:09.336 you. 01:24:09.360 --> 01:24:11.576 Thank you councelor Saab. I will put that 01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:14.600 to the vote. All those in favor 01:24:15.679 --> 01:24:18.679 that is carried unanimously. Thank you. 01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:21.800 I'll move to item 10.1 the advocacy plan 01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:24.920 2025 2027. Councelor O'Donnell with the 01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:27.256 office of recommendation. 01:24:27.280 --> 01:24:27.976 Yes, please. 01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:30.695 Thank you. Do I have a seconder? Council 01:24:30.719 --> 01:24:33.719 Agatan. 01:24:34.719 --> 01:24:36.056 Councelor O'Donnell, do you wish to 01:24:36.080 --> 01:24:37.496 speak to the motion? 01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:38.056 Reserve. 01:24:38.080 --> 01:24:41.080 Reserve. Council Agatan. Reserve. 01:24:41.360 --> 01:24:44.360 Any other counselors on the motion? 01:24:44.400 --> 01:24:47.400 Council law. 01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:49.496 Thank you. May I wish to make an 01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:51.016 amendment? 01:24:51.040 --> 01:24:53.416 Thank you. Bear with me and I'll just 01:24:53.440 --> 01:24:56.440 get that up on my screen. 01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:59.736 So, this is the new amendment that's 01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:02.760 been sent around. 01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:06.135 Is that the one that you're moving? 01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:09.016 Yes. So, that is for council's benefit. 01:25:09.040 --> 01:25:11.496 Point one and two remain the same. Point 01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:14.520 three reads as follows. prioritizes a 01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:17.800 key focus area for the 202526 01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:20.056 financial year the replacement of the 01:25:20.080 --> 01:25:22.536 Morial Creek underpass whilst the level 01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:24.456 crossing removal project and aquatic and 01:25:24.480 --> 01:25:26.456 leisure center works are underway 01:25:26.480 --> 01:25:28.536 recognizing it as a critical shared user 01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:30.536 path connection and acknowledge this 01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:32.615 specific shared user path's inclusion in 01:25:32.639 --> 01:25:34.296 the Victorian government's strategic 01:25:34.320 --> 01:25:36.215 cycling corridor and Melbourne water 01:25:36.239 --> 01:25:38.376 healthy waterways strategy linking 01:25:38.400 --> 01:25:40.856 Pompy's Landing the Bay Trail Mielik 01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:42.296 Main Street Kingston's new aquatic 01:25:42.320 --> 01:25:45.320 center and the foreshore and point four 01:25:45.360 --> 01:25:47.496 immediately commence a staged advocacy 01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:50.376 and design process to identify and 01:25:50.400 --> 01:25:52.376 secure state government funding for a 01:25:52.400 --> 01:25:55.400 replacement underpass. Is that correct? 01:25:57.440 --> 01:26:00.215 Just not sure what point one and two cuz 01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:03.239 I only sent through three. 01:26:16.320 --> 01:26:19.320 Bear with me just a moment. 01:26:45.679 --> 01:26:47.336 Yeah. Sorry. So, just confirming one and 01:26:47.360 --> 01:26:49.736 two as is and then adding a three and 01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:51.096 four. 01:26:51.120 --> 01:26:53.016 Yes. So, that was one and two is the 01:26:53.040 --> 01:26:54.376 officer recommendation. Three and four 01:26:54.400 --> 01:26:55.816 are the amendment as 01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:58.615 Yes. Thank you. Right. Bear with me just 01:26:58.639 --> 01:27:01.639 one second. 01:27:16.159 --> 01:27:17.736 Thank you. I just was just clarifying 01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:20.695 rep.4. Um before I accept that 01:27:20.719 --> 01:27:22.296 amendment, can I just have a question 01:27:22.320 --> 01:27:24.936 through to Miss Crawl in terms of the 01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:27.960 potential cost of 4 in terms of 01:27:29.120 --> 01:27:31.896 commencing a design process and what 01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:34.920 that may cost council? 01:27:35.679 --> 01:27:37.655 Thank you, mayor. Um it would depend on 01:27:37.679 --> 01:27:40.056 the level of design that is required. Um 01:27:40.080 --> 01:27:41.576 as we've shared and discussed with 01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:44.056 councilors before, this is a very 01:27:44.080 --> 01:27:47.080 complex um structure that would need to 01:27:47.360 --> 01:27:50.215 be put in place. And the designs would 01:27:50.239 --> 01:27:52.615 involve a whole range of experts and 01:27:52.639 --> 01:27:55.639 would be significant cost. 01:27:56.480 --> 01:27:58.456 Would I be correct in assuming that that 01:27:58.480 --> 01:28:01.256 cost is likely to exceed $25,000? 01:28:01.280 --> 01:28:04.280 Yes, that cost would very likely exceed 01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:06.695 $25,000. May 01:28:06.719 --> 01:28:09.256 thank you. so council law in order to 01:28:09.280 --> 01:28:12.135 accept 4 as an amendment that would need 01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:14.215 to ask for an officer report as under 01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:16.056 the governance rules an amendment that 01:28:16.080 --> 01:28:18.536 would cost over $25,000 01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:21.560 must seek an officer report first. 01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:27.000 Yes, understood. We can amend the point4 01:28:27.280 --> 01:28:30.280 to direct to have a report. 01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:45.655 So that would read point three would 01:28:45.679 --> 01:28:47.175 remain the same. Point 4 would be 01:28:47.199 --> 01:28:49.416 receive an officer report regarding a 01:28:49.440 --> 01:28:51.896 staged advocacy and design process to 01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:53.416 identify and secure state government 01:28:53.440 --> 01:28:56.440 funding for a replacement underpass. 01:28:58.159 --> 01:28:59.816 Are you happy with moving that? 01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:02.840 Yes. Thank you, Mayor. 01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:10.536 Thank you. So that is moved as an 01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:12.296 amendment. Councelor Law, do I have a 01:29:12.320 --> 01:29:15.175 seconder? 01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:18.199 Council Ashworth Collett. 01:29:19.920 --> 01:29:21.256 Council Lord, do you wish to speak to 01:29:21.280 --> 01:29:24.280 your amendment? 01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:28.199 yes. Thank you, Mayor. 01:29:31.360 --> 01:29:33.256 the draft advocacy plan highlights 01:29:33.280 --> 01:29:34.615 Kingston's priorities for government 01:29:34.639 --> 01:29:37.496 partnerships and funding. Advocacy is 01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:38.695 not just about dollars. It's about 01:29:38.719 --> 01:29:40.536 ensuring communities diverse voices are 01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:42.936 heard. We have issues like housing, 01:29:42.960 --> 01:29:45.175 transport, and active recreation. 01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:46.536 which disproportionately affect 01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:49.560 vulnerable groups, women and carers. 01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:51.496 The advocacy plan highlights embedding 01:29:51.520 --> 01:29:52.856 equity and well-being in our advocacy 01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:55.175 ensures funding aligns with our values 01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:56.856 and the plan provides a framework to 01:29:56.880 --> 01:29:58.615 leverage external partnerships while 01:29:58.639 --> 01:29:59.816 staying accountable to our community 01:29:59.840 --> 01:30:01.336 vision. 01:30:01.360 --> 01:30:02.856 So tonight we're asked to endorse our 01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:05.576 Kingston advocacy plan. but I would 01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:06.936 like to mention as ward counselor for 01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.416 male compact I cannot ignore that a 01:30:09.440 --> 01:30:10.936 glaring emission exists which is the 01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:13.896 modell creek underpass. 01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:15.576 For months I have advocated on this 01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:18.135 issue on behalf of my community. In 01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:20.056 April through a community petition which 01:30:20.080 --> 01:30:21.336 is now signed by over two and a half 01:30:21.360 --> 01:30:23.336 thousand residents which is one in three 01:30:23.360 --> 01:30:25.896 morale residents calling urgently to 01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:27.816 save this critical connection or have it 01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:29.416 replaced. 01:30:29.440 --> 01:30:31.655 In May under item 12.2 Two, council 01:30:31.679 --> 01:30:33.256 resolved to explore through a design 01:30:33.280 --> 01:30:34.856 process the best alternative option to 01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:37.175 replace the underpass. That amendment 01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:39.016 moved by council andosopus made clear 01:30:39.040 --> 01:30:40.456 that the connection between pump is 01:30:40.480 --> 01:30:42.456 landing the bay trail long bit trail 01:30:42.480 --> 01:30:45.480 must be part of our strategy. 01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:47.416 In June at our ordinary council meeting 01:30:47.440 --> 01:30:49.736 under urgent item 14.2, I raised the 01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:51.816 matter again seeking a staged approach 01:30:51.840 --> 01:30:54.296 and making safer pathways during 01:30:54.320 --> 01:30:56.776 construction works. 01:30:56.800 --> 01:30:58.215 In July, I again brought the matter 01:30:58.239 --> 01:30:59.896 forward, but was lost on the casting 01:30:59.920 --> 01:31:01.816 vote. And as I mentioned earlier this 01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:04.456 evening, and borrowing a quote from um 01:31:04.480 --> 01:31:06.536 our own Dorothy Booth, the community 01:31:06.560 --> 01:31:07.976 have rallied, and this is just too 01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:10.695 precious to let go. The underpass was 01:31:10.719 --> 01:31:12.456 permanently closed 7 days ago. It 01:31:12.480 --> 01:31:14.376 connects our foreshore, the Bay Trail, 01:31:14.400 --> 01:31:17.400 and our soontobe 87.5 million aquatic 01:31:17.440 --> 01:31:20.215 center. It is urgent. It is now, and 01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:22.215 it's backed by thousands of residents. 01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:24.376 We have 2,458 01:31:24.400 --> 01:31:26.536 people who have signed this petition. so 01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:28.456 far and many still don't know that this 01:31:28.480 --> 01:31:31.016 underpass is closed. It's one in three 01:31:31.040 --> 01:31:33.816 people that live in Mortial Alik. So I 01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:35.336 urgently request that we make these 01:31:35.360 --> 01:31:37.416 amendments so we can advocate to the 01:31:37.440 --> 01:31:38.936 state and federal governments to seek 01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:41.960 funding for this underpass. 01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:45.800 Thank you. Thank you council law council 01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:48.615 Ash Collett reserve. Any other 01:31:48.639 --> 01:31:51.639 councilors on the amendment? 01:31:51.920 --> 01:31:54.920 Council Sup, 01:31:55.679 --> 01:31:57.896 I'll just speak briefly to it. and 01:31:57.920 --> 01:31:59.736 we recognize that we are continuing to 01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:00.936 advocate on this and we know the 01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:02.376 conversations that we've had with state 01:32:02.400 --> 01:32:04.615 government. and while we've we've 01:32:04.639 --> 01:32:06.135 heard where they kind of sit with these 01:32:06.159 --> 01:32:07.736 things, we need to understand as well 01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:10.760 that if we let up on these issues, then 01:32:11.280 --> 01:32:13.096 we've given up on them and we will lose 01:32:13.120 --> 01:32:15.736 them into the future. And the cost to 01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:17.816 our community, you know, we're talking 01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:19.896 about a $25,000 cost of what it cost to 01:32:19.920 --> 01:32:21.736 do the design plan. the cost to our 01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:24.760 community, to our city is far greater if 01:32:25.360 --> 01:32:27.256 we lose this connection. We need to 01:32:27.280 --> 01:32:29.096 continue to have a shared user path 01:32:29.120 --> 01:32:30.536 network throughout our city. We talked 01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:32.296 about um throughout this evening, we 01:32:32.320 --> 01:32:33.576 talked about better buses. We talked 01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:35.096 about transport connectivity. We talked 01:32:35.120 --> 01:32:36.936 about moving around our city, 01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:39.175 especially as density comes in. This is 01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:41.496 a key component to that. We want our 01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:43.175 city to be when we want our people in 01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:45.655 our city to be healthy and thriving. 01:32:45.679 --> 01:32:47.496 Then we need to be able to give them the 01:32:47.520 --> 01:32:49.976 opportunity to move about our city in a 01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:52.376 in in a healthy way that does connect 01:32:52.400 --> 01:32:54.615 them to our new aquatic center. The 01:32:54.639 --> 01:32:57.416 aquatic center that's going to house um 01:32:57.440 --> 01:32:59.016 really important infrastructure for 01:32:59.040 --> 01:33:02.040 community that is aging. And we need to 01:33:02.080 --> 01:33:03.576 be able to give them that opportunity to 01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:05.816 cross through Nepine Highway, a pretty 01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:08.376 important um and very difficult to cross 01:33:08.400 --> 01:33:11.336 um passageway in our city. And if we 01:33:11.360 --> 01:33:13.896 lose this, that part of the connection 01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:16.135 will be a dead end. So I I recognize 01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:18.135 that this is part of a broader advocacy 01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:20.296 strategy and I really do endorse 01:33:20.320 --> 01:33:21.655 comm's team for all the work they've 01:33:21.679 --> 01:33:23.256 done and putting that together. But 01:33:23.280 --> 01:33:24.776 specifically on this amendment, I think 01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:27.016 it is important that we do not let up 01:33:27.040 --> 01:33:28.695 especially when our community has said 01:33:28.719 --> 01:33:31.016 as as such that this is important to 01:33:31.040 --> 01:33:33.496 them and that means it must be important 01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:36.215 to us as well. So I support and and 01:33:36.239 --> 01:33:39.239 endorse this amendment this evening. 01:33:39.920 --> 01:33:41.736 Thank you councelor Saab Councelor 01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:44.760 Thanos. 01:33:46.320 --> 01:33:49.320 Thanks, Mayor. Um, 01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:51.655 if this was something that we were 01:33:51.679 --> 01:33:53.896 considering in a vacuum, I would 01:33:53.920 --> 01:33:55.896 probably not be supportive of it because 01:33:55.920 --> 01:33:57.736 it's just one project out of a million 01:33:57.760 --> 01:33:59.416 other projects that we can consider as 01:33:59.440 --> 01:34:02.215 important. But what we know is that when 01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:04.456 there is major infrastructure being done 01:34:04.480 --> 01:34:07.016 in your city and there is a bug bear 01:34:07.040 --> 01:34:08.776 within your community of something that 01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:11.016 that authority and the state government 01:34:11.040 --> 01:34:13.896 don't want to do, it's important that 01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:16.920 you exercise our right as a council, but 01:34:17.040 --> 01:34:19.416 also on behalf of the community, our 01:34:19.440 --> 01:34:21.976 responsibility to put pressure on them 01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:24.215 to actually deliver. Nonetheless, I 01:34:24.239 --> 01:34:25.496 think everyone pretty much agrees with 01:34:25.520 --> 01:34:27.655 those points. I would imagine it really 01:34:27.679 --> 01:34:29.736 comes down to should we spend money 01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:31.576 where the state government is spending 01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:34.600 money and what we should do if we're 01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:36.615 concerned about that because we know 01:34:36.639 --> 01:34:37.655 that they're not going to do the work 01:34:37.679 --> 01:34:39.256 and that's going to basically give them 01:34:39.280 --> 01:34:40.615 the opportunity to say well we don't 01:34:40.639 --> 01:34:42.056 know what we're really doing here so 01:34:42.080 --> 01:34:43.416 therefore we haven't got the money for 01:34:43.440 --> 01:34:45.655 you. What we should do maybe when that 01:34:45.679 --> 01:34:47.896 report comes back to us is put something 01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:50.376 in there like we will keep an accounting 01:34:50.400 --> 01:34:52.376 book open on Howe much it's actually cost 01:34:52.400 --> 01:34:55.400 us to do it and we will seek reparations 01:34:55.520 --> 01:34:58.056 from you for those costing 01:34:58.080 --> 01:35:00.056 and that way it alleviates that stress 01:35:00.080 --> 01:35:02.135 that people have about us investing on 01:35:02.159 --> 01:35:03.496 what the state government really should 01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:05.736 be investing in. And I have no problem 01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:08.056 working with the mayor, the CEO, any 01:35:08.080 --> 01:35:10.135 other counselors in seeking that return 01:35:10.159 --> 01:35:12.615 of funds from the state if we were to go 01:35:12.639 --> 01:35:14.856 ahead should the report, you know, 01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:16.456 support that or suggest that that's what 01:35:16.480 --> 01:35:19.096 we do um in seeking that money back. Is 01:35:19.120 --> 01:35:20.776 it guaranteed? I don't know. I can't 01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:22.215 guarantee anything in this world. But 01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:24.376 what I can say is that we should go out 01:35:24.400 --> 01:35:26.536 there and actually do the work so that 01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:29.256 we can actually make it happen while 01:35:29.280 --> 01:35:31.416 it's a hot topic. And I think that's why 01:35:31.440 --> 01:35:33.096 I think it's important that we look at 01:35:33.120 --> 01:35:36.120 supporting this and don't give other um 01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:39.800 bodies or representatives an option to 01:35:40.080 --> 01:35:41.896 opt out of delivering something our 01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:44.135 community because they want to maybe put 01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:47.159 pressure on us to say choose one. 01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:49.256 Thank you, Councelor Thanos. Councelor 01:35:49.280 --> 01:35:51.336 O'Donnell. 01:35:51.360 --> 01:35:54.056 Thank you, Mayor. Um I'm just wanting to 01:35:54.080 --> 01:35:56.376 clarify that the email received at 7:53 01:35:56.400 --> 01:35:58.456 p.m. was the amendment that we're 01:35:58.480 --> 01:36:01.480 referring to at the moment. just on the 01:36:01.679 --> 01:36:04.615 council law. Is that correct? 01:36:04.639 --> 01:36:07.639 Email received at 7:53 p.m. 01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:11.976 is I don't have my emails in front of me 01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:13.016 when I'm chairing a meeting. So, 01:36:13.040 --> 01:36:16.040 just change slightly. 01:36:18.639 --> 01:36:21.576 So, can we 01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:24.600 send this again? Is it the same? 01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:27.256 We'll just forward that again to all 01:36:27.280 --> 01:36:28.695 counselors. So, just bear with me just a 01:36:28.719 --> 01:36:31.416 moment. That would be great. Thank you. 01:36:31.440 --> 01:36:33.175 The challenges of not having the screens 01:36:33.199 --> 01:36:36.199 in front of us. 01:37:02.159 --> 01:37:05.159 refresh. 01:37:09.199 --> 01:37:10.056 You've got it. I hope I 01:37:10.080 --> 01:37:11.416 That sounded like a ding-dong of an 01:37:11.440 --> 01:37:14.440 email that might have been received. 01:37:14.480 --> 01:37:16.296 Thank you. 01:37:16.320 --> 01:37:17.576 If councilors just want to check their 01:37:17.600 --> 01:37:20.056 emails just for the motion, that should 01:37:20.080 --> 01:37:23.080 be the correct version. 01:37:25.280 --> 01:37:26.856 Not correct. 01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:29.256 That's the old one. 01:37:29.280 --> 01:37:31.976 Oh, so okay. No, so the the only change 01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:34.536 from that has been given the governance 01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:37.175 rules to receive an officer report 01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:39.496 regarding a staged advocacy and design 01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:42.520 process to identify and secure state 01:37:42.639 --> 01:37:44.215 government funding for a replacement 01:37:44.239 --> 01:37:47.239 underpass. So that is point four. 01:37:48.080 --> 01:37:49.976 There's no point four. 01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:52.776 So it's so in the what's been circulated 01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:54.615 point one and two are sort of meshed 01:37:54.639 --> 01:37:56.456 together in the formatting but that is 01:37:56.480 --> 01:37:59.480 0.1 and two and then 3.4 in that email. 01:38:00.639 --> 01:38:01.496 Does that make sense? 01:38:01.520 --> 01:38:03.095 Yeah, does now. 01:38:03.119 --> 01:38:05.016 So it's just the formatting of.1 and 01:38:05.040 --> 01:38:08.040 two. 01:38:09.840 --> 01:38:12.456 So that would be into receive a report 01:38:12.480 --> 01:38:14.215 not to be going straight into the design 01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:15.175 progress. 01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:17.095 Correct. So point four reads, receive an 01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:19.336 officer report regarding a staged 01:38:19.360 --> 01:38:21.896 advocacy and design process to identify 01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:23.576 and secure state government funding for 01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:26.135 a replacement underpass. 01:38:26.159 --> 01:38:27.816 So receiving a report only 01:38:27.840 --> 01:38:30.840 only. Can I request that we 01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:34.135 vote in part separately? 01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:36.695 Yes, 01:38:36.719 --> 01:38:38.695 I'm happy to vote that in parts. 01:38:38.719 --> 01:38:41.719 Thank you. 01:38:43.280 --> 01:38:45.416 Yep. When we vote on those, given this 01:38:45.440 --> 01:38:47.095 one, I'm happy to then read out the 01:38:47.119 --> 01:38:48.776 point before we vote so we know what 01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:49.976 we're then voting on. 01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:51.336 Yep. Not a problem. 01:38:51.360 --> 01:38:52.456 Thank you, Mayor. 01:38:52.480 --> 01:38:53.976 Thank you, councelor. 01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:55.336 Are there any other counselors wishing 01:38:55.360 --> 01:38:58.296 to speak? Councelor Howe? 01:38:58.320 --> 01:39:01.175 Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um I'm just 01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:02.376 wondering whether we should be 01:39:02.400 --> 01:39:05.256 considering the other side of the creek 01:39:05.280 --> 01:39:07.496 which has a path which has access to a 01:39:07.520 --> 01:39:10.520 bridge on both sides and could see be 01:39:11.280 --> 01:39:13.816 done for a lot less than going going to 01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:15.976 construct a underpass or an alternative 01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:18.215 walkound. So is it possible for the 01:39:18.239 --> 01:39:19.976 report to say to consider other 01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:23.000 alternatives? 01:39:23.040 --> 01:39:26.040 01:39:27.440 --> 01:39:30.440 Well, 01:39:31.440 --> 01:39:33.576 it doesn't because it would be a 01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:35.095 replacement underpass. So, it would be 01:39:35.119 --> 01:39:36.376 under 01:39:36.400 --> 01:39:37.896 So, there is an underpass on the other 01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:39.175 side. 01:39:39.199 --> 01:39:41.496 No, it's not an underpass. 01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:43.416 No. So, I would say that that's It 01:39:43.440 --> 01:39:46.376 doesn't say that at all. Um, are you 01:39:46.400 --> 01:39:49.400 wanting 01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:56.215 the only problem I'm going to face 01:39:56.239 --> 01:39:59.239 it will go under the train line? 01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:01.256 Would you like to move an amendment to 01:40:01.280 --> 01:40:01.896 that? 01:40:01.920 --> 01:40:04.296 Is that possible? 01:40:04.320 --> 01:40:07.320 Yes. 01:40:07.679 --> 01:40:10.679 Yes. receive an officer report. Let 01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:13.095 me just word this. receive an officer 01:40:13.119 --> 01:40:16.119 report regarding state of 01:40:16.480 --> 01:40:18.936 can we put at the end of point 4 and 01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:20.376 I'll just see just mindful we don't have 01:40:20.400 --> 01:40:21.976 it on the screen so it's hard to do both 01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:22.615 at the same time 01:40:22.639 --> 01:40:23.016 sure 01:40:23.040 --> 01:40:26.040 can we put at the end of point 4 01:40:27.199 --> 01:40:28.936 placement underpass and other 01:40:28.960 --> 01:40:31.960 alternative options 01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:35.496 receive an officer report regarding a 01:40:35.520 --> 01:40:38.520 staged advocacy process to identify 01:40:43.040 --> 01:40:45.896 or all or or other or other alternative 01:40:45.920 --> 01:40:48.920 options. Sorry. 01:40:49.360 --> 01:40:51.896 so point four would read councelor 01:40:51.920 --> 01:40:54.135 Howe receive an officer report regarding 01:40:54.159 --> 01:40:57.159 a staged advocacy and design process to 01:40:57.360 --> 01:40:59.496 identify and secure state government 01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:02.135 funding for a replacement underpass or 01:41:02.159 --> 01:41:05.159 other alternative options. 01:41:05.199 --> 01:41:07.256 Is is that what you're moving? 01:41:07.280 --> 01:41:08.215 Correct. 01:41:08.239 --> 01:41:10.856 Thank you. So that is an amendment moved 01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:11.816 councelor Howe 01:41:11.840 --> 01:41:13.496 and and the other benefit to this is 01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:14.936 that does improve the other side of the 01:41:14.960 --> 01:41:16.856 creek. At the moment there is no safety 01:41:16.880 --> 01:41:19.576 towards the the creek. So literally a 01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:20.456 pedestrian or 01:41:20.480 --> 01:41:21.655 sneaking it in but I've got to get a 01:41:21.679 --> 01:41:24.679 second for your amendment first. 01:41:25.040 --> 01:41:27.095 Oh you can't 01:41:27.119 --> 01:41:29.175 bear with me for a moment. Um council 01:41:29.199 --> 01:41:30.695 law would you be willing to accept that 01:41:30.719 --> 01:41:32.296 as your amendment or I can wait until 01:41:32.320 --> 01:41:34.536 this amendment's been voted on? 01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:37.095 I'm willing to accept it. Council 01:41:37.119 --> 01:41:38.296 Ashworth, Collett, are you willing to 01:41:38.320 --> 01:41:40.456 accept that as part of the amendment? 01:41:40.480 --> 01:41:43.480 Yes, 01:41:44.080 --> 01:41:46.536 that's that's not a problem. 01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:48.936 So, for the ease of just trying to work 01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:51.095 through an option here that council law 01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:52.456 and council Ash have the letter happy 01:41:52.480 --> 01:41:55.480 with as movers of it. Yep. Appreciate 01:41:56.080 --> 01:41:59.080 that. Um, can we copy that and send that 01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:01.496 to all counselors so they know so 01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:04.520 exactly what's on the screen? Thank you. 01:42:05.040 --> 01:42:06.296 It's all right. It's all good. It's not 01:42:06.320 --> 01:42:09.320 a problem. We're working through it. 01:42:13.920 --> 01:42:16.135 Can we just note in the minutes that the 01:42:16.159 --> 01:42:19.159 additional part was just accepted? So, 01:42:29.119 --> 01:42:31.896 yeah, just 01:42:31.920 --> 01:42:33.256 please let me know when you've received 01:42:33.280 --> 01:42:35.175 that, counselors. 01:42:35.199 --> 01:42:38.199 Thank you. 01:42:46.800 --> 01:42:49.800 Council Ashlet, have you received that? 01:42:52.880 --> 01:42:54.776 Are there any other counselors wishing 01:42:54.800 --> 01:42:56.215 to speak to the amendment in front of 01:42:56.239 --> 01:42:59.239 us? 01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:03.095 I will just add before I put it to the 01:43:03.119 --> 01:43:06.119 vote, um I'm perhaps a little bit 01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:08.296 confused with this amendment and whilst 01:43:08.320 --> 01:43:09.736 I'm willing to accept it because we're 01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:12.760 now only receiving a report, what I am 01:43:13.520 --> 01:43:16.520 concerned about is we are an entire 01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:20.119 municipality that has across our entire 01:43:20.159 --> 01:43:23.095 municipality dozens of projects that are 01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:25.016 important to our local community. And 01:43:25.040 --> 01:43:26.536 this is not trying to take away the 01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:29.560 importance of this local project, but 01:43:29.679 --> 01:43:32.135 there are dozens of local projects 01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:35.159 important to our local community. And a 01:43:35.440 --> 01:43:38.440 lot of effort is going into the advocacy 01:43:40.239 --> 01:43:42.296 on this particular matter. And I'm not 01:43:42.320 --> 01:43:44.296 saying that this is not important and 01:43:44.320 --> 01:43:46.215 the community don't want us to put the 01:43:46.239 --> 01:43:48.536 effort into this particular matter, but 01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:51.336 I am firmly of the belief that council 01:43:51.360 --> 01:43:54.360 should not be spending money 01:43:54.639 --> 01:43:57.576 on this particular matter when it was a 01:43:57.600 --> 01:44:00.376 problem created by the state government 01:44:00.400 --> 01:44:03.400 that they can in turn at the moment fix 01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:06.456 and it is just another form of cost 01:44:06.480 --> 01:44:08.856 shifting 01:44:08.880 --> 01:44:11.655 and I won't be supporting it. Yes, that 01:44:11.679 --> 01:44:14.679 may cause us problems in the future and 01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:16.856 I'm fully aware that that may cause us 01:44:16.880 --> 01:44:18.615 problems in the future that in the 01:44:18.639 --> 01:44:21.256 future we may have to come back and fix. 01:44:21.280 --> 01:44:23.976 But at the moment when I see the lists 01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:26.056 that we have in this advocacy plan of 01:44:26.080 --> 01:44:29.080 the priorities across our electorates, 01:44:30.480 --> 01:44:33.480 this cannot take what is estimated at 01:44:35.040 --> 01:44:38.040 $15 million worth of funds 01:44:38.639 --> 01:44:41.336 away from all the other priorities 01:44:41.360 --> 01:44:44.135 listed in this document. 01:44:44.159 --> 01:44:47.159 So, I'm happy to receive a report 01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:50.456 regarding what that may look like 01:44:50.480 --> 01:44:53.016 and make an assessment at that point, 01:44:53.040 --> 01:44:54.536 but we've received a lot of this 01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:57.256 information already. And it really is 01:44:57.280 --> 01:44:58.936 coming to a crunch point of whether 01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:01.175 council is willing to spend what is 01:45:01.199 --> 01:45:04.199 estimated at page 361 of the agenda that 01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:07.560 I have in front of me as 15 plus million 01:45:08.400 --> 01:45:10.536 when the reality is we don't have the 01:45:10.560 --> 01:45:12.615 money to deliver that and everything 01:45:12.639 --> 01:45:15.639 else. So, we've got to make a call. What 01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:19.016 is important to us? 01:45:19.040 --> 01:45:21.095 Where can we have other impacts on 01:45:21.119 --> 01:45:22.856 achieving what we're trying to achieve 01:45:22.880 --> 01:45:25.016 here? And that is connections. And I 01:45:25.040 --> 01:45:26.615 think councelor Howe's suggestion of 01:45:26.639 --> 01:45:28.536 alternative options that may be far less 01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:31.095 than $15 million is what we should be 01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:33.736 pushing for because $15 million for us 01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:35.655 or the state government is a lot of 01:45:35.679 --> 01:45:37.816 money no matter who pays for it. And at 01:45:37.840 --> 01:45:39.416 the end of the day, the people that pay 01:45:39.440 --> 01:45:42.135 for it are our rate payers regardless of 01:45:42.159 --> 01:45:44.135 who pays for it. 01:45:44.159 --> 01:45:46.376 So the decision we need to make that at 01:45:46.400 --> 01:45:48.936 some point because a lot of time is 01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:51.496 being spent on this matter. 01:45:51.520 --> 01:45:54.520 Councelor O'Donnell a question. 01:45:54.800 --> 01:45:57.336 Yes please. Mayor Mayor Oxley am I 01:45:57.360 --> 01:46:00.360 correct in saying that we have already 01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:03.095 supported 01:46:03.119 --> 01:46:06.119 a motion earlier on this year in regards 01:46:06.239 --> 01:46:09.239 to advocacy for the underpass. 01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:13.800 Is anyone able to clarify that for me? 01:46:14.480 --> 01:46:17.480 Mr. Hogan, do you have that to hand? 01:46:20.320 --> 01:46:22.776 I can't remember exactly, but it's it's 01:46:22.800 --> 01:46:25.800 ringing very true for me. 01:46:37.119 --> 01:46:40.119 Wasn't I 01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:46.600 Thank you, councelor. Howe 01:46:46.719 --> 01:46:48.215 um 01:46:48.239 --> 01:46:51.239 not to the best of my recollection. 01:46:52.480 --> 01:46:54.695 There was recently 01:46:54.719 --> 01:46:56.776 motion considered by council. Believe it 01:46:56.800 --> 01:46:59.800 was brought as a nom in which um a 01:47:01.679 --> 01:47:04.679 further report um similar in nature to 01:47:04.800 --> 01:47:07.095 this was unsuccessful. Um, and I'm 01:47:07.119 --> 01:47:10.119 looking across to my counterpart, 01:47:10.480 --> 01:47:12.936 general manager Goodman, who might have 01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:14.536 a better recollection than me off the 01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:16.376 top of my head, but I don't recall a 01:47:16.400 --> 01:47:18.536 successful motion in regards to the 01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:21.095 underpass explicitly. 01:47:21.119 --> 01:47:23.655 So, 01:47:23.679 --> 01:47:26.679 hang on, hang on, my able. 01:47:26.880 --> 01:47:29.736 So, on the 23rd of June, 2025, ordinary 01:47:29.760 --> 01:47:32.760 council meeting, we did have a carried 01:47:34.560 --> 01:47:37.560 Oh, hang on. That's urgent business. 01:47:38.719 --> 01:47:41.336 Um, we did have Morial Alic Creek 01:47:41.360 --> 01:47:42.936 underpass. 01:47:42.960 --> 01:47:44.456 There was a motion that council write to 01:47:44.480 --> 01:47:45.896 the level crossing removal project and 01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:47.095 request the following mitigation 01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:48.615 measures to ensure community safety 01:47:48.639 --> 01:47:49.816 during the temporary closure of the 01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:51.896 Modial Underpass, 01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:54.920 but that was um yeah, temporary as 01:47:55.119 --> 01:47:57.336 opposed to anything more significant in 01:47:57.360 --> 01:47:57.896 terms of 01:47:57.920 --> 01:47:58.615 Mr. Hogan 01:47:58.639 --> 01:47:59.576 advocacy. 01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:01.816 April meeting by any chance? Yeah, that 01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:04.056 that my recollection at a discussion we 01:48:04.080 --> 01:48:05.896 had at a council only session one night 01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:08.776 with myself um I had to go and 01:48:08.800 --> 01:48:10.056 investigate and I believe it was the 01:48:10.080 --> 01:48:11.816 April council meeting that 01:48:11.840 --> 01:48:12.536 thank you Mr. 01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:14.776 I confirmed that there was council 01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:17.175 direction in that. 01:48:17.199 --> 01:48:18.695 Yeah. Further to that and thank you 01:48:18.719 --> 01:48:21.719 councelor can also clarify that um at 01:48:22.800 --> 01:48:24.936 the 28th of July council meeting a 01:48:24.960 --> 01:48:26.695 notice of motion brought by councelor 01:48:26.719 --> 01:48:28.456 law the council received a report 01:48:28.480 --> 01:48:30.056 detailing the cost features and benefits 01:48:30.080 --> 01:48:31.336 of a detailed business case and 01:48:31.360 --> 01:48:32.776 feasibility analysis of alternative 01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:34.376 replacement options for the morning 01:48:34.400 --> 01:48:36.215 creek northern underpass was 01:48:36.239 --> 01:48:39.239 unsuccessful. 01:48:39.840 --> 01:48:41.896 Does anyone have on hand the April 01:48:41.920 --> 01:48:44.920 meeting? 01:48:49.840 --> 01:48:50.536 Yes. 01:48:50.560 --> 01:48:53.496 Is there reference to a notice of motion 01:48:53.520 --> 01:48:56.520 in regards to the Mialic Creek under not 01:48:56.639 --> 01:48:57.816 creek because that would be 01:48:57.840 --> 01:48:59.736 Bear with us and we'll we'll we'll try 01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:01.576 to locate the motion from April. 01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:02.215 Yeah. 01:49:02.239 --> 01:49:05.239 Um only because of obviously we are 01:49:05.360 --> 01:49:07.576 referring directly to advocacy plan. 01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:09.416 Yeah. you you've already spoken so you 01:49:09.440 --> 01:49:12.376 can't speak so it's only questions sorry 01:49:12.400 --> 01:49:15.400 okay yes thank you through the chair 01:49:16.560 --> 01:49:19.560 um yes so the resolution moved by 01:49:20.719 --> 01:49:22.376 councelor Lawrence seconded by councelor 01:49:22.400 --> 01:49:25.095 O'Donnell which was successfully carried 01:49:25.119 --> 01:49:27.095 that one council request the Victorian 01:49:27.119 --> 01:49:28.376 government through the local member for 01:49:28.400 --> 01:49:31.336 Mia to secure funding and facilitate the 01:49:31.360 --> 01:49:33.576 development of anou to actively explore 01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:35.816 through a design process what is the 01:49:35.840 --> 01:49:37.496 best viable alternative solution to the 01:49:37.520 --> 01:49:39.736 Morty Alec Creek stabling yard underpass 01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:41.095 connecting Pompy's Landing and the Long 01:49:41.119 --> 01:49:42.695 Beach Trail with reserves on the other 01:49:42.719 --> 01:49:45.175 side of the rail corridor and thus the 01:49:45.199 --> 01:49:47.496 broader shared user path network. And 01:49:47.520 --> 01:49:49.976 two, the MOU make clear the need to have 01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:51.576 participation from all relevant 01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:53.256 government agencies and departments who 01:49:53.280 --> 01:49:54.776 would be required to have input into 01:49:54.800 --> 01:49:56.615 decision-m on a possible alternative 01:49:56.639 --> 01:49:59.336 solution. Three, that prior to any 01:49:59.360 --> 01:50:01.256 potential being signed that the matter 01:50:01.280 --> 01:50:03.655 is to return to council and four that 01:50:03.679 --> 01:50:05.736 the council sorry that the connection 01:50:05.760 --> 01:50:07.496 between Pompy's landing the B trail and 01:50:07.520 --> 01:50:08.776 long beach trail is a priority for 01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:10.695 council and is included in the advocacy 01:50:10.719 --> 01:50:13.719 strategy. So that was the 28th of April. 01:50:16.080 --> 01:50:17.976 Thank you Mr. Hogan. Thank you mayor. 01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:19.416 Thank you councelor O'Donnell. A 01:50:19.440 --> 01:50:21.576 question councelor Saab. 01:50:21.600 --> 01:50:23.175 Thank you Madame Mayor to the relevant 01:50:23.199 --> 01:50:26.199 officer I believe to Mr. Hogan. Um, if 01:50:26.719 --> 01:50:29.336 there was a resolution of council 01:50:29.360 --> 01:50:31.016 through a notice a motion for this to be 01:50:31.040 --> 01:50:33.655 an advocacy, was there a reason it was 01:50:33.679 --> 01:50:36.056 omitted from the advocacy strategy 01:50:36.080 --> 01:50:38.056 policy document that we are considering 01:50:38.080 --> 01:50:39.336 right now? 01:50:39.360 --> 01:50:41.976 It's not 01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:45.000 through the chair. Um, so the appendix 01:50:46.880 --> 01:50:48.456 to I believe the whole of Kingston 01:50:48.480 --> 01:50:51.095 strategic advocacy opportunities. um 01:50:51.119 --> 01:50:52.695 ensure high quality local community 01:50:52.719 --> 01:50:53.976 infrastructure is included in all 01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:56.215 aspects of SRL and remaining LXRP 01:50:56.239 --> 01:50:58.536 projects. Given the size and scale of 01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:00.856 those particular um projects over many 01:51:00.880 --> 01:51:03.496 years, it was intended that that be a 01:51:03.520 --> 01:51:05.896 catchall rather than any explicit 01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:07.816 singular thing. Although it would have 01:51:07.840 --> 01:51:09.095 been helpful particularly in this 01:51:09.119 --> 01:51:10.456 instance that that would have been 01:51:10.480 --> 01:51:13.336 referenced in the council report um 01:51:13.360 --> 01:51:16.360 covering this. 01:51:17.280 --> 01:51:19.736 Can I just add councelor Saab that 01:51:19.760 --> 01:51:21.576 under the Mialik electorate state 01:51:21.600 --> 01:51:22.776 government funding and grant 01:51:22.800 --> 01:51:25.256 opportunities Modial shared user path 01:51:25.280 --> 01:51:28.280 replacement is listed 01:51:30.880 --> 01:51:32.296 under the state government funding and 01:51:32.320 --> 01:51:33.816 grant opportunities for the Mialik 01:51:33.840 --> 01:51:36.840 electorate. 01:51:38.639 --> 01:51:40.695 Are there any other questions before I 01:51:40.719 --> 01:51:43.719 council Agatan? Sorry. 01:51:48.400 --> 01:51:51.400 Just wait a second. Try again. Try press 01:51:52.320 --> 01:51:53.736 it again. 01:51:53.760 --> 01:51:56.695 Thank you, Madame May. Um is my 01:51:56.719 --> 01:51:59.719 understanding correct that you have 01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:03.560 um released a media statement about 6 01:52:03.599 --> 01:52:06.599 days ago expressing Kingston Council's 01:52:06.960 --> 01:52:09.416 disappointment with the closure of the 01:52:09.440 --> 01:52:11.256 underpass by the relevant authority 01:52:11.280 --> 01:52:14.280 which is state government Alex in 01:52:14.880 --> 01:52:17.880 this particular instance and calling on 01:52:18.080 --> 01:52:21.080 the responsible authority to present a 01:52:22.239 --> 01:52:25.239 viable solution. Thank you. 01:52:25.360 --> 01:52:28.360 Thank you, council. Mr. Hogan, 01:52:28.800 --> 01:52:29.976 thank you. And through you, Madame 01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:32.215 Mayor. Um, published on the 19th of 01:52:32.239 --> 01:52:33.896 August, council called for an urgent 01:52:33.920 --> 01:52:36.135 solution to the Mortial Underpass 01:52:36.159 --> 01:52:38.376 closure. Um, it's available on our 01:52:38.400 --> 01:52:39.976 website, but obviously was distributed 01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:42.936 to other agencies at the time. So, yes, 01:52:42.960 --> 01:52:45.336 you are correct, councelor. 01:52:45.360 --> 01:52:47.496 Thank you. If there are no further 01:52:47.520 --> 01:52:49.336 questions, 01:52:49.360 --> 01:52:52.215 I will put the amendment to the vote. Is 01:52:52.239 --> 01:52:54.296 everyone comfortable on what they're 01:52:54.320 --> 01:52:56.376 voting on on the amendment at the 01:52:56.400 --> 01:52:59.336 moment? Yes. Wonderful. So that is.3 and 01:52:59.360 --> 01:53:02.360 point 4. All those in favor of 01:53:04.400 --> 01:53:07.400 three being included. 01:53:08.880 --> 01:53:10.856 That is councelor Law, councelor 01:53:10.880 --> 01:53:12.695 Athanosopoulos, councelor Ashworth 01:53:12.719 --> 01:53:15.719 Collett and councelor Saab. 01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:18.215 All those against 01:53:18.239 --> 01:53:20.056 that is councelor Agatan, councelor 01:53:20.080 --> 01:53:22.056 white, councelor O'Donnell, councelor 01:53:22.080 --> 01:53:25.080 Evanus, councelor Howe and myself 01:53:25.840 --> 01:53:28.840 and that is lost. 01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:32.920 All those in favor of 04 being included 01:53:37.040 --> 01:53:39.416 that is councelor law councelor 01:53:39.440 --> 01:53:41.816 thanosopoulos councelor Ashworth Collett 01:53:41.840 --> 01:53:44.296 councelor revanitus councelor Saab and 01:53:44.320 --> 01:53:47.016 myself 01:53:47.040 --> 01:53:49.655 and all those against 01:53:49.679 --> 01:53:52.135 that is councelor Agatan councelor white 01:53:52.159 --> 01:53:55.016 councelor O'Donnell and councelor Howe 01:53:55.040 --> 01:53:58.040 and that is carried 01:54:02.800 --> 01:54:05.736 So, can we just go scroll back up just 01:54:05.760 --> 01:54:08.456 for a second? 01:54:08.480 --> 01:54:11.480 So, remove three. 01:54:12.239 --> 01:54:15.239 Yeah, 01:54:15.840 --> 01:54:18.840 that's 01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:22.296 bear with me just a moment, counselors. 01:54:22.320 --> 01:54:24.296 I'm just getting the substantive motion 01:54:24.320 --> 01:54:27.320 now up on the screen. 01:54:55.440 --> 01:54:57.736 So we now have the substantive motion 01:54:57.760 --> 01:55:00.456 that we need to move back to and that is 01:55:00.480 --> 01:55:03.480 points 1 2 and four from the previous 01:55:06.239 --> 01:55:08.376 resolution or motion that we had before. 01:55:08.400 --> 01:55:11.400 So 1 2 and three will now be the motion. 01:55:14.320 --> 01:55:15.976 Is everyone clear on what we're now 01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:19.000 voting on? 01:55:21.440 --> 01:55:24.440 So one and two is in the officer report. 01:55:24.560 --> 01:55:26.695 Three being that we receive an officer 01:55:26.719 --> 01:55:29.336 report regarding a staged advocacy and 01:55:29.360 --> 01:55:32.215 design process to identify and secure 01:55:32.239 --> 01:55:33.736 state government funding for a 01:55:33.760 --> 01:55:35.575 replacement underpass or other 01:55:35.599 --> 01:55:38.599 alternative options. 01:55:39.199 --> 01:55:41.736 Everybody clear on that now? 01:55:41.760 --> 01:55:43.736 Wonderful. 01:55:43.760 --> 01:55:45.256 Are there any other councilors wishing 01:55:45.280 --> 01:55:47.256 to speak to the substantive? Councelor 01:55:47.280 --> 01:55:49.016 O'Donnell. 01:55:49.040 --> 01:55:51.175 Thank you very much, Madame Mayor. Um, I 01:55:51.199 --> 01:55:53.256 would like to make it very clear after 01:55:53.280 --> 01:55:55.016 recent events regarding the underpass 01:55:55.040 --> 01:55:56.776 because it directly affects my ward as 01:55:56.800 --> 01:55:58.856 well and directly affects me as a 01:55:58.880 --> 01:56:01.575 resident. Um, 01:56:01.599 --> 01:56:04.215 I am a strong supporter of the the 01:56:04.239 --> 01:56:07.239 underpass. Well, that's now gone. Um, 01:56:07.679 --> 01:56:09.655 and needing to have an alternative that 01:56:09.679 --> 01:56:11.736 is there to service the community. It is 01:56:11.760 --> 01:56:14.135 a huge loss. Um things will become 01:56:14.159 --> 01:56:16.615 dangerous. Howeever, what I won't be 01:56:16.639 --> 01:56:19.639 supporting is any further spending in 01:56:19.679 --> 01:56:22.215 regards to this project because it is 01:56:22.239 --> 01:56:25.239 100% entirely a state government-caused 01:56:25.520 --> 01:56:27.976 issue that needs to be addressed by the 01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:31.000 state government and the LXRP. Um, I 01:56:32.159 --> 01:56:33.896 also want to point out in this advocacy 01:56:33.920 --> 01:56:36.920 because councelor Law and myself, 01:56:38.560 --> 01:56:41.256 excuse me, are very heavily affected by 01:56:41.280 --> 01:56:44.135 this, but not just the underpass and the 01:56:44.159 --> 01:56:47.095 shared user paths, groves reserve, and 01:56:47.119 --> 01:56:50.119 the number of issues that cause tree 01:56:50.719 --> 01:56:53.719 removals right throughout both Aspenale 01:56:53.840 --> 01:56:56.840 and Mialik are heavily affected. And I 01:56:57.920 --> 01:56:59.736 know Howe frustrating it has been for 01:56:59.760 --> 01:57:02.056 council and for councelor Laura and 01:57:02.080 --> 01:57:05.080 myself throughout this. Um absolutely 01:57:05.920 --> 01:57:08.920 still a 100% behind an alternative. Like 01:57:09.280 --> 01:57:11.016 to thank councelor Howe for bringing up 01:57:11.040 --> 01:57:13.095 alternatives that need to be possibly 01:57:13.119 --> 01:57:16.119 explored. Um but 01:57:16.639 --> 01:57:18.695 yeah, it's it's it's advocacy for right 01:57:18.719 --> 01:57:20.856 across the the issues that have been 01:57:20.880 --> 01:57:23.880 presented with not just the underpass 01:57:24.800 --> 01:57:27.800 but also across including Groves Reserve 01:57:27.840 --> 01:57:29.095 and the other issues that have come 01:57:29.119 --> 01:57:32.119 about pointing out specifically um for 01:57:32.480 --> 01:57:33.896 advocacy right across the city of 01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:36.920 Kingston in my ward we face a huge issue 01:57:37.520 --> 01:57:40.376 um also in councelor White's ward in 01:57:40.400 --> 01:57:43.256 regards to golf courses. So we can't 01:57:43.280 --> 01:57:45.095 look at prioritizing 01:57:45.119 --> 01:57:47.336 one particular project over others when 01:57:47.360 --> 01:57:50.296 we have some serious serious concerns 01:57:50.320 --> 01:57:52.615 happening in the city of Kingston that 01:57:52.639 --> 01:57:55.639 all require advocacy for for outcomes 01:57:55.840 --> 01:57:58.840 that we can hopefully see um will be the 01:57:59.119 --> 01:58:00.936 greatest outcome for our community. So I 01:58:00.960 --> 01:58:03.736 won't be standing here isolating one 01:58:03.760 --> 01:58:05.655 project over another. We have a number 01:58:05.679 --> 01:58:07.416 of serious issues going on that need 01:58:07.440 --> 01:58:09.416 equal advocacy or more some more than 01:58:09.440 --> 01:58:12.215 others but um yeah I am strongly 01:58:12.239 --> 01:58:14.135 supporting the the advocacy plan for 01:58:14.159 --> 01:58:16.936 2527 and thank you very much madame 01:58:16.960 --> 01:58:17.976 mayor. 01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:19.336 Thank you councelor O'Donnell. Are there 01:58:19.360 --> 01:58:22.360 any other counselors on the substantive? 01:58:22.639 --> 01:58:25.639 Councelor Thanos. 01:58:25.679 --> 01:58:28.296 Thanks Mayor. Um I just like to say I I 01:58:28.320 --> 01:58:30.296 agree with councelor Donald's comments 01:58:30.320 --> 01:58:33.175 there. I think everything that's in 01:58:33.199 --> 01:58:34.856 the 01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:37.736 advocacy program I suppose for 25 to 01:58:37.760 --> 01:58:40.760 from 25 to 27 is an important one. Um I 01:58:42.159 --> 01:58:45.095 I would agree also though that the 01:58:45.119 --> 01:58:47.496 unfortunate situation that we find 01:58:47.520 --> 01:58:50.520 ourselves in is that whilst um there are 01:58:50.800 --> 01:58:53.800 projects that would probably get um a 01:58:54.000 --> 01:58:56.215 lot of support I'm sure all of them get 01:58:56.239 --> 01:58:59.095 a support to a degree um but there will 01:58:59.119 --> 01:59:02.119 be hund a ton of resources from office 01:59:02.400 --> 01:59:04.056 of time and whatever else for a whole 01:59:04.080 --> 01:59:05.336 bunch of things whether it's on golf 01:59:05.360 --> 01:59:08.056 courses or whether it's on another 01:59:08.080 --> 01:59:10.936 advocacy priority that's in there. 01:59:10.960 --> 01:59:12.936 There is other ones that need a little 01:59:12.960 --> 01:59:14.615 bit more work to get done so that we can 01:59:14.639 --> 01:59:17.496 actually potentially convince 01:59:17.520 --> 01:59:19.976 governments to actually invest in it. 01:59:20.000 --> 01:59:22.296 I agree with you also councelor 01:59:22.320 --> 01:59:25.320 Donald on councelor Howe's um improve 01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:29.000 amendment I should say and thank 01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:32.695 councelor Law and Ashworth Collett 01:59:32.719 --> 01:59:34.936 for accepting it because it does give a 01:59:34.960 --> 01:59:36.936 broader range of options for our 01:59:36.960 --> 01:59:39.575 officers to work on and potentially find 01:59:39.599 --> 01:59:41.976 a solution to this issue. the issue 01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:45.000 isn't going to go away. And my recent, 01:59:46.639 --> 01:59:49.639 you know, looking into Howe things cost, 01:59:50.000 --> 01:59:53.000 $15.1 million becomes 20 eventually, 25. 01:59:55.520 --> 01:59:57.095 The longer we wait to get something 01:59:57.119 --> 01:59:59.655 done, actually better that you get it 01:59:59.679 --> 02:00:01.095 done sooner rather than later. Now, I'm 02:00:01.119 --> 02:00:02.135 not saying that we should go with the 02:00:02.159 --> 02:00:03.976 $15 million option. There might be a 02:00:04.000 --> 02:00:06.536 cheaper one, but nonetheless, the longer 02:00:06.560 --> 02:00:09.256 you push it down the road, still going 02:00:09.280 --> 02:00:11.256 to have a gap in our system. we're still 02:00:11.280 --> 02:00:13.175 need going to need to address it at some 02:00:13.199 --> 02:00:14.936 point in the future or state government 02:00:14.960 --> 02:00:16.296 whatever it doesn't matter who it is 02:00:16.320 --> 02:00:18.135 still being funded one way or another 02:00:18.159 --> 02:00:19.496 and we're going to have to get crack on 02:00:19.520 --> 02:00:21.175 and do that work. So, I'm glad that 02:00:21.199 --> 02:00:23.816 we've at least um settled on this what 02:00:23.840 --> 02:00:25.736 we're considering now and look forward 02:00:25.760 --> 02:00:27.736 to that report in the future, but also 02:00:27.760 --> 02:00:29.175 thank you to all the officers for all 02:00:29.199 --> 02:00:30.776 the work that they've put in and for the 02:00:30.800 --> 02:00:32.056 work that they're going to be putting in 02:00:32.080 --> 02:00:35.080 moving forward while and our mayors 02:00:35.199 --> 02:00:37.575 current and future that will be going 02:00:37.599 --> 02:00:40.599 out with these advocacy programs to the 02:00:40.639 --> 02:00:42.936 candidates in the future to actually get 02:00:42.960 --> 02:00:44.776 some support. Thanks. 02:00:44.800 --> 02:00:46.536 Thank you, Councelor Ethanosopoulos. Any 02:00:46.560 --> 02:00:49.560 other councils on the substantive 02:00:49.599 --> 02:00:52.599 council law? 02:00:54.560 --> 02:00:56.296 Thank you, mayor. with respect to 02:00:56.320 --> 02:00:58.215 other advocacy matters which also are 02:00:58.239 --> 02:01:00.215 very important to our communities and 02:01:00.239 --> 02:01:02.296 our municipality, the Modelic Creek 02:01:02.320 --> 02:01:05.016 underpass is urgent today. It was closed 02:01:05.040 --> 02:01:07.175 permanently just 7 days ago, cutting off 02:01:07.199 --> 02:01:10.056 a vital shared user path. This matter is 02:01:10.080 --> 02:01:12.536 no longer of proactive advocacy intent 02:01:12.560 --> 02:01:14.296 since the permanent closure on the 18th 02:01:14.320 --> 02:01:16.856 of August. The advocacy has shifted to 02:01:16.880 --> 02:01:18.376 become now a matter of current safety 02:01:18.400 --> 02:01:20.296 risk to the community and therefore 02:01:20.320 --> 02:01:21.896 sought for this to be a key focus area 02:01:21.920 --> 02:01:24.920 at this point in time. We currently at 02:01:25.119 --> 02:01:27.896 today have members of the public who are 02:01:27.920 --> 02:01:30.615 being asked to walk alongside a highway, 02:01:30.639 --> 02:01:33.639 a highway with no fence and no barrier. 02:01:33.840 --> 02:01:35.655 On Friday, 3 days ago, we had a large 02:01:35.679 --> 02:01:37.095 number of residents and local business 02:01:37.119 --> 02:01:39.175 owners attend a community gathering to 02:01:39.199 --> 02:01:40.536 share Howe important this connection is 02:01:40.560 --> 02:01:42.536 to them and their families, their 02:01:42.560 --> 02:01:44.376 children, their health and wellbeing. 02:01:44.400 --> 02:01:46.376 This is not abstract future planning. We 02:01:46.400 --> 02:01:48.296 have a community crying out and rallying 02:01:48.320 --> 02:01:51.175 for action now. If other agencies fail 02:01:51.199 --> 02:01:52.936 our community, we don't just give up and 02:01:52.960 --> 02:01:55.336 point fingers. We take action. We stand 02:01:55.360 --> 02:01:57.896 up for the community we serve. Council 02:01:57.920 --> 02:01:59.496 does not know the actual cost of 02:01:59.520 --> 02:02:00.856 replacement because there is no 02:02:00.880 --> 02:02:03.880 feasibility study or options analysis. 02:02:04.080 --> 02:02:06.135 The motion seeks advocacy focus now 02:02:06.159 --> 02:02:07.816 whilst the level crossing removals are 02:02:07.840 --> 02:02:10.215 taking place in Morialik and Aspenale 02:02:10.239 --> 02:02:12.615 and the construction build of an 87.5 02:02:12.639 --> 02:02:15.175 million Morty aquatic center occurs just 02:02:15.199 --> 02:02:17.256 800 meters down the road and this is 02:02:17.280 --> 02:02:19.575 happening now. Therefore, we should seek 02:02:19.599 --> 02:02:21.416 funding from entities outside council 02:02:21.440 --> 02:02:22.776 now including shared funding 02:02:22.800 --> 02:02:24.695 arrangements where other stakeholders 02:02:24.719 --> 02:02:27.575 have vested interests right now. We are 02:02:27.599 --> 02:02:30.296 more likely to seek a positive outcome. 02:02:30.320 --> 02:02:32.296 If we wait too long, the cost will be 02:02:32.320 --> 02:02:34.776 greater and will have unrest in the 02:02:34.800 --> 02:02:36.456 community. 02:02:36.480 --> 02:02:38.215 We should advocate strongly to level 02:02:38.239 --> 02:02:39.896 crossing removal project, the state and 02:02:39.920 --> 02:02:41.336 federal government and any other 02:02:41.360 --> 02:02:43.256 identified stakeholder as earlier 02:02:43.280 --> 02:02:46.056 predicted in theou earlier this year. If 02:02:46.080 --> 02:02:47.655 we cannot prioritize the most pressing 02:02:47.679 --> 02:02:49.496 and immediate issues impacting thousands 02:02:49.520 --> 02:02:51.655 of residents today, then what does our 02:02:51.679 --> 02:02:54.679 advocacy plan really stand for? 02:02:55.119 --> 02:02:58.119 Thank you, councelor Law. councelor 02:02:58.159 --> 02:03:01.159 Howe? 02:03:01.280 --> 02:03:04.280 you've technically spoken. 02:03:04.400 --> 02:03:07.400 Apologies, councelor Saab. 02:03:08.080 --> 02:03:11.080 Just just really briefly, mayor, um I 02:03:11.199 --> 02:03:12.615 think it's been a really good robustful 02:03:12.639 --> 02:03:15.095 debate on um different items of interest 02:03:15.119 --> 02:03:17.336 to the community and to our counselors 02:03:17.360 --> 02:03:19.175 and representing the different advocacy 02:03:19.199 --> 02:03:21.175 priorities. just there was some comments 02:03:21.199 --> 02:03:24.199 raised around um the need for spend and 02:03:25.199 --> 02:03:28.135 councelor needing to put in um where 02:03:28.159 --> 02:03:29.736 there is a cost shifting element in the 02:03:29.760 --> 02:03:31.496 state government. Now not denying that 02:03:31.520 --> 02:03:33.976 there often is that part of the advocacy 02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:35.816 work that we do that there often appears 02:03:35.840 --> 02:03:37.655 to be or seems to be some sort of cost 02:03:37.679 --> 02:03:40.296 shifting element um whenever it comes to 02:03:40.320 --> 02:03:41.976 us putting forward some cases especially 02:03:42.000 --> 02:03:45.000 around the LXRP. But I will remind um 02:03:45.040 --> 02:03:46.695 everyone who is listening this evening 02:03:46.719 --> 02:03:49.095 and to our councelor colleagues that on 02:03:49.119 --> 02:03:51.175 multiple instances the best outcomes 02:03:51.199 --> 02:03:53.575 that we achieve as a council is when we 02:03:53.599 --> 02:03:55.256 have actually had to and we didn't need 02:03:55.280 --> 02:03:58.056 to but we had to put in council's own 02:03:58.080 --> 02:04:00.056 funds in order to get the best possible 02:04:00.080 --> 02:04:02.456 outcome for our city. A really good 02:04:02.480 --> 02:04:04.296 classic example of that is the Chelsea 02:04:04.320 --> 02:04:07.320 overpass that we spent $750,000 of 02:04:07.360 --> 02:04:10.056 council's own funds um in order to kind 02:04:10.080 --> 02:04:12.056 of get that outcome for the city. 02:04:12.080 --> 02:04:13.976 Another example of that is when the 02:04:14.000 --> 02:04:15.416 Cheltonham level crossing removal 02:04:15.440 --> 02:04:17.175 project happened and council also 02:04:17.199 --> 02:04:19.336 contributed certain funds in order to 02:04:19.360 --> 02:04:21.175 get a better outcome for our city. 02:04:21.199 --> 02:04:23.816 Another example of that was um something 02:04:23.840 --> 02:04:26.135 that we just awarded this evening was 02:04:26.159 --> 02:04:28.056 around the men level crossing removal 02:04:28.080 --> 02:04:30.936 projects as well. Council has and this 02:04:30.960 --> 02:04:33.496 council has consistently had to put 02:04:33.520 --> 02:04:36.056 forward our own funds in putting 02:04:36.080 --> 02:04:38.936 together either a plan, a proposal, a 02:04:38.960 --> 02:04:40.776 project, ensuring that things were 02:04:40.800 --> 02:04:42.376 getting delivered for our community 02:04:42.400 --> 02:04:44.615 because the best way, and we've say this 02:04:44.639 --> 02:04:46.856 regularly in our advocacy discussions, 02:04:46.880 --> 02:04:49.575 the best way we can put forward a case 02:04:49.599 --> 02:04:52.599 to government is by doing the pre-work, 02:04:52.639 --> 02:04:54.135 presenting them with the data, 02:04:54.159 --> 02:04:55.816 presenting them with the plan, sHoweing 02:04:55.840 --> 02:04:57.816 them the vision, the vision that is 02:04:57.840 --> 02:04:59.575 informed by our community. because we 02:04:59.599 --> 02:05:02.056 always consult on that and putting that 02:05:02.080 --> 02:05:05.080 forward to council. Often that does come 02:05:05.599 --> 02:05:07.575 with a cost to council where it 02:05:07.599 --> 02:05:10.376 shouldn't. Unfortunately, we are having 02:05:10.400 --> 02:05:12.215 to fulfill that obligation and having to 02:05:12.239 --> 02:05:14.856 go and do those things. Howeever, we know 02:05:14.880 --> 02:05:16.536 that we can get better outcomes when we 02:05:16.560 --> 02:05:18.376 do that. and we can pre present a 02:05:18.400 --> 02:05:20.615 unfortunately a nice little glossy 02:05:20.639 --> 02:05:22.296 brochure or plan or vision or whatever 02:05:22.320 --> 02:05:24.536 it is to state government when we do 02:05:24.560 --> 02:05:26.695 advocate and push forward opportunities 02:05:26.719 --> 02:05:29.416 and projects to them. We know that's the 02:05:29.440 --> 02:05:32.440 case on so many different examples I 02:05:32.480 --> 02:05:34.695 could point to. The most recent one was 02:05:34.719 --> 02:05:36.296 in the suburban rail loop when we went 02:05:36.320 --> 02:05:38.615 through our EES. Yes, council did not 02:05:38.639 --> 02:05:40.135 need to go in and hire the consultants 02:05:40.159 --> 02:05:43.159 that we needed to, but we did so so that 02:05:43.280 --> 02:05:45.896 we could breast present our case at the 02:05:45.920 --> 02:05:47.976 EES process and throughout the suburban 02:05:48.000 --> 02:05:50.376 rail. And now it is paying dividends. We 02:05:50.400 --> 02:05:51.655 are constantly referring to those 02:05:51.679 --> 02:05:53.175 documents, those piece of works that 02:05:53.199 --> 02:05:55.736 we've had to pay for when we go and 02:05:55.760 --> 02:05:56.936 present to different levels of 02:05:56.960 --> 02:05:58.856 government about the outcomes that are 02:05:58.880 --> 02:06:01.175 either lacking or that we need or the 02:06:01.199 --> 02:06:02.776 new transport connections that we need 02:06:02.800 --> 02:06:04.776 or the infrastructure that we need. And 02:06:04.800 --> 02:06:06.776 we know it's important because we know 02:06:06.800 --> 02:06:07.976 the state government's not going to put 02:06:08.000 --> 02:06:09.095 the money up for that work and 02:06:09.119 --> 02:06:10.776 unfortunately we're going to have to. 02:06:10.800 --> 02:06:12.296 But that is part of the advocacy 02:06:12.320 --> 02:06:13.896 strategy that we have to do. There is a 02:06:13.920 --> 02:06:15.496 juggle. I don't think we should be 02:06:15.520 --> 02:06:17.016 spending consistently and constantly and 02:06:17.040 --> 02:06:19.016 always because there is your time has 02:06:19.040 --> 02:06:22.040 elapsed. Thank you. 02:06:22.400 --> 02:06:23.816 Are there any other counselors wishing 02:06:23.840 --> 02:06:26.840 to speak to the substantive motion? 02:06:28.239 --> 02:06:31.016 Before I put it to the vote, I will just 02:06:31.040 --> 02:06:34.040 add that in regards to.3 this evening. 02:06:34.480 --> 02:06:36.615 Um, whilst I'm happy to receive that 02:06:36.639 --> 02:06:38.695 report, I think it's going to put to bed 02:06:38.719 --> 02:06:40.936 the costs that it would cost council and 02:06:40.960 --> 02:06:43.016 at least bring this decision to a head 02:06:43.040 --> 02:06:45.256 on whether council wishes to support 02:06:45.280 --> 02:06:48.135 this or not. And that is a decision for 02:06:48.159 --> 02:06:50.376 council to make. But I think at least 02:06:50.400 --> 02:06:52.055 having all of that information provided 02:06:52.079 --> 02:06:54.936 in one document and one report that the 02:06:54.960 --> 02:06:57.960 community would have access to is is 02:06:58.239 --> 02:07:01.095 really going to bring this out. Um I 02:07:01.119 --> 02:07:03.816 know that there was some misinformation 02:07:03.840 --> 02:07:06.376 provided to some members in the 02:07:06.400 --> 02:07:09.336 community around what council considered 02:07:09.360 --> 02:07:11.416 at its last council meeting. Um, and 02:07:11.440 --> 02:07:12.536 I've certainly received a lot of 02:07:12.560 --> 02:07:15.016 feedback in relation to that in terms of 02:07:15.040 --> 02:07:18.040 council not supporting providing money 02:07:18.159 --> 02:07:21.159 to a business case. Um, so I provided a 02:07:21.199 --> 02:07:23.336 lot of information to local residents 02:07:23.360 --> 02:07:25.095 who once they've been provided with that 02:07:25.119 --> 02:07:27.256 information are actually supportive of 02:07:27.280 --> 02:07:29.736 council not spending their money on a 02:07:29.760 --> 02:07:32.760 business case. So I will take that on 02:07:34.000 --> 02:07:35.736 board when we are provided with this 02:07:35.760 --> 02:07:38.055 report. I'm going to support um this 02:07:38.079 --> 02:07:39.816 report being provided. of the council 02:07:39.840 --> 02:07:41.896 supports that this evening. Um, look 02:07:41.920 --> 02:07:43.175 forward to receiving all of the 02:07:43.199 --> 02:07:45.256 information and finally being able to 02:07:45.280 --> 02:07:47.976 make a decision on this matter. I will 02:07:48.000 --> 02:07:50.615 now put that to the vote. All those in 02:07:50.639 --> 02:07:53.639 favor 02:07:54.480 --> 02:07:57.480 that is carried unanimously. Thank you. 02:08:00.880 --> 02:08:03.655 We'll move to item 10.2 which is the MAV 02:08:03.679 --> 02:08:05.496 motions update. Councelor O'Donnell, the 02:08:05.520 --> 02:08:07.976 officer recommendation. Thank you. Do I 02:08:08.000 --> 02:08:09.016 have a seconder? Councelor 02:08:09.040 --> 02:08:12.040 Athanosopoulos. 02:08:12.800 --> 02:08:14.055 Councelor Odon, do you wish to speak to 02:08:14.079 --> 02:08:15.095 the motion? 02:08:15.119 --> 02:08:16.776 Only briefly. I won't take up too much 02:08:16.800 --> 02:08:19.175 time. Um, looking forward to in October 02:08:19.199 --> 02:08:22.199 representing Kingston at the state MAV 02:08:24.400 --> 02:08:27.400 council meeting. Um, and really happy to 02:08:28.239 --> 02:08:30.055 be bringing forward the the two motions 02:08:30.079 --> 02:08:33.079 that we've got listed. Um, regarding 02:08:33.360 --> 02:08:35.575 ebikes. I know we've had a number of 02:08:35.599 --> 02:08:38.536 discussions in regards to the issues 02:08:38.560 --> 02:08:40.615 that they cause in amongst everyone's 02:08:40.639 --> 02:08:43.256 community um and our after hours 02:08:43.280 --> 02:08:45.095 community access and school facilities. 02:08:45.119 --> 02:08:47.655 So I'm looking forward to October. Thank 02:08:47.679 --> 02:08:48.376 you guys. 02:08:48.400 --> 02:08:50.376 Thank you councelor O'Donnell. Councelor 02:08:50.400 --> 02:08:52.296 Thanosopoulos. 02:08:52.320 --> 02:08:53.736 I'm not going to talk to the item but I 02:08:53.760 --> 02:08:56.615 might move a procedural motion to extend 02:08:56.639 --> 02:08:58.296 the meeting beyond 10:00 because I think 02:08:58.320 --> 02:09:01.320 we might get there just till 10:30. 02:09:02.079 --> 02:09:04.536 Getting up early, aren't we? thank 02:09:04.560 --> 02:09:07.256 you. I will just wait till I get that on 02:09:07.280 --> 02:09:10.280 the screen. Bear with me. 02:09:10.719 --> 02:09:12.215 I'm putting a lot of pressure on Sharon 02:09:12.239 --> 02:09:13.416 tonight doing all of this without the 02:09:13.440 --> 02:09:15.496 screens on. 02:09:15.520 --> 02:09:18.055 do I have a second council sub? 02:09:18.079 --> 02:09:21.079 Thank you. 02:09:23.440 --> 02:09:25.655 Are you going with 10:30 02:09:25.679 --> 02:09:27.016 until 10:30? 02:09:27.040 --> 02:09:28.936 Let's do it. 02:09:28.960 --> 02:09:31.496 Is that Is that the your final offer? 02:09:31.520 --> 02:09:33.575 Thank you. I'll put that to the vote. 02:09:33.599 --> 02:09:34.936 All those in favor of extending the 02:09:34.960 --> 02:09:37.896 meeting till 10:30. That is Carrie Gina. 02:09:37.920 --> 02:09:39.816 Oh no, it's not. Sorry. Councelor 02:09:39.840 --> 02:09:42.296 Agatan, Councelor O'Donnell, Council 02:09:42.320 --> 02:09:45.175 Law, Council Thanos, Council Ashworth, 02:09:45.199 --> 02:09:47.095 Collett, Councelor Revanus, Councelor 02:09:47.119 --> 02:09:49.336 Howe, Council Saab, and myself. All those 02:09:49.360 --> 02:09:52.360 against councelor White. And that is 02:09:52.480 --> 02:09:54.856 carried. 02:09:54.880 --> 02:09:56.615 Right. We'll move back to councelor 02:09:56.639 --> 02:09:57.896 Thanos. Do you wish to speak to the 02:09:57.920 --> 02:09:59.976 motion? No. Any other councilors wish to 02:10:00.000 --> 02:10:03.000 speak to the MAV motions? 02:10:03.440 --> 02:10:04.536 Council Howe? 02:10:04.560 --> 02:10:07.560 just quickly um this also should 02:10:08.159 --> 02:10:11.159 include e- scooters. E scooters are just 02:10:11.280 --> 02:10:14.055 as much of a safety risk if not a 02:10:14.079 --> 02:10:16.215 greater risk. And most parents don't 02:10:16.239 --> 02:10:19.016 even know that their child under 16 02:10:19.040 --> 02:10:20.776 should not be using a e scooter on a 02:10:20.800 --> 02:10:22.856 footpath. 02:10:22.880 --> 02:10:24.456 Are you proposing an amendment council? 02:10:24.480 --> 02:10:27.095 Howe? 02:10:27.119 --> 02:10:28.695 Yes. Thank you. Is that possible? 02:10:28.719 --> 02:10:31.719 Thank you. Can we just add a point or 02:10:32.320 --> 02:10:35.320 no lodge the attached? No. in point 02:10:37.920 --> 02:10:40.920 two, can we just add after agenda 02:10:41.679 --> 02:10:44.679 subject to the inclusion of e 02:10:44.800 --> 02:10:46.615 scooters 02:10:46.639 --> 02:10:49.639 in the motion? 02:10:52.639 --> 02:10:55.016 So that would read councelor Howe lodge 02:10:55.040 --> 02:10:57.816 the attached draft motion on ebikes for 02:10:57.840 --> 02:11:00.055 inclusion in the state council agenda 02:11:00.079 --> 02:11:01.976 subject to the inclusion of e scooters 02:11:02.000 --> 02:11:04.615 in the motion. 02:11:04.639 --> 02:11:05.416 Thank you. 02:11:05.440 --> 02:11:08.215 Thank you. Is that acceptable councelor 02:11:08.239 --> 02:11:10.936 O'Donnell as the mover? 02:11:10.960 --> 02:11:13.960 Yes it is. Sorry my computerous. 02:11:16.239 --> 02:11:18.296 That's fine. Councelor Thanosopoulos, is 02:11:18.320 --> 02:11:20.456 that acceptable? You're getting me 02:11:20.480 --> 02:11:22.296 tonight. All right, you're getting me. 02:11:22.320 --> 02:11:24.936 that becomes the motion. Thank you, 02:11:24.960 --> 02:11:26.936 councelor. Howe 02:11:26.960 --> 02:11:28.695 are there any other councilors wishing 02:11:28.719 --> 02:11:31.719 to speak to the motion? 02:11:32.560 --> 02:11:34.055 There being none, happy for me to put to 02:11:34.079 --> 02:11:36.296 the vote. Councelor O'Donnell. Yes, that 02:11:36.320 --> 02:11:38.376 is close. I will put that to the vote. 02:11:38.400 --> 02:11:41.400 All those in favor? 02:11:41.920 --> 02:11:43.896 That is councelor Agdan, councelor 02:11:43.920 --> 02:11:45.736 O'Donnell, councelor Law, councelor 02:11:45.760 --> 02:11:47.816 Athanosopoulos, councelor Ashworth, 02:11:47.840 --> 02:11:49.816 Collett, councelor Revanus, councelor 02:11:49.840 --> 02:11:52.840 Howe and myself. All those against 02:11:53.760 --> 02:11:56.456 and abstaining, councelor White and 02:11:56.480 --> 02:11:59.480 councelor SA and that is carried. 02:12:01.760 --> 02:12:04.760 Thank you. 02:12:05.840 --> 02:12:08.840 Item 10.3, the governance and compliance 02:12:09.280 --> 02:12:12.055 report. Do I have a motion? Council 02:12:12.079 --> 02:12:13.896 Agatan, the office of recommendation. 02:12:13.920 --> 02:12:14.776 Yes. 02:12:14.800 --> 02:12:16.936 Do I have a seconder? Councelor 02:12:16.960 --> 02:12:19.175 O'Donnell. 02:12:19.199 --> 02:12:21.816 Do you wish to speak to the motion? 02:12:21.840 --> 02:12:23.336 Any councilors wishing to speak to the 02:12:23.360 --> 02:12:26.296 motion? Councelor Saab. 02:12:26.320 --> 02:12:28.376 Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, I just 02:12:28.400 --> 02:12:30.536 wanted to speak to a particular item on 02:12:30.560 --> 02:12:33.560 the the report. that is noting the 02:12:34.560 --> 02:12:37.416 um official report of our attendance to 02:12:37.440 --> 02:12:40.296 the National General Assembly of 2025. 02:12:40.320 --> 02:12:42.135 um just to highlight a few key 02:12:42.159 --> 02:12:43.655 components of the report that I put 02:12:43.679 --> 02:12:46.215 together and um I recommend to the 02:12:46.239 --> 02:12:48.135 community to have a look at that report. 02:12:48.159 --> 02:12:50.776 again the National General Assembly 02:12:50.800 --> 02:12:53.800 happened a couple of months ago. Um it 02:12:53.840 --> 02:12:56.135 was well attended by a lot of councils. 02:12:56.159 --> 02:12:58.776 Um some key highlights of our attendance 02:12:58.800 --> 02:13:01.800 at that meeting was I was w with 02:13:02.239 --> 02:13:03.736 council law. We were able to secure a 02:13:03.760 --> 02:13:06.376 meeting with Katherine King's office. 02:13:06.400 --> 02:13:08.215 that meeting actually went for over an 02:13:08.239 --> 02:13:10.695 hour um of their time which was really 02:13:10.719 --> 02:13:12.376 substantial. At the time during the 02:13:12.400 --> 02:13:14.296 conference they were only allocating 5 02:13:14.320 --> 02:13:16.376 minutes slots of time. So to be able to 02:13:16.400 --> 02:13:18.536 secure over an hour of the minister's 02:13:18.560 --> 02:13:20.536 time was really actually important 02:13:20.560 --> 02:13:22.856 and really helpful. In those meetings we 02:13:22.880 --> 02:13:24.215 discussed things around the Moraban 02:13:24.239 --> 02:13:27.175 airport and our aviation tenants. We 02:13:27.199 --> 02:13:29.095 discussed federal infrastructure funding 02:13:29.119 --> 02:13:31.655 alignments emerging grant 02:13:31.679 --> 02:13:33.416 opportunities for council local 02:13:33.440 --> 02:13:35.736 government sustainability review as 02:13:35.760 --> 02:13:37.336 well as the Moraban airport or sorry 02:13:37.360 --> 02:13:39.736 airport act reform. Um it was actually a 02:13:39.760 --> 02:13:42.215 really insightful meeting. it gave us 02:13:42.239 --> 02:13:44.215 a lot of opportunities and advice on Howe 02:13:44.239 --> 02:13:46.536 we can best position council through 02:13:46.560 --> 02:13:48.135 these grant process that come through 02:13:48.159 --> 02:13:49.416 the federal government and then through 02:13:49.440 --> 02:13:51.896 the state government. um that was very 02:13:51.920 --> 02:13:53.896 valuable because this is coming up now 02:13:53.920 --> 02:13:55.816 with a whole slew of grant opportunities 02:13:55.840 --> 02:13:58.840 that we can put forward. we also I 02:13:59.679 --> 02:14:01.575 was also able to meet with um the deputy 02:14:01.599 --> 02:14:04.376 prime minister's advisers um to raise a 02:14:04.400 --> 02:14:06.215 number of issues and and talk about 02:14:06.239 --> 02:14:07.736 Kingston Council and the scope of 02:14:07.760 --> 02:14:09.976 different councils. that was a very 02:14:10.000 --> 02:14:11.256 difficult thing to set up but it was 02:14:11.280 --> 02:14:13.256 fantastic to do. though through the task 02:14:13.280 --> 02:14:15.095 force, the Maril task force, we met with 02:14:15.119 --> 02:14:17.896 Alicia Payne, the member for Canberra, 02:14:17.920 --> 02:14:19.496 um talking about the relevance of the 02:14:19.520 --> 02:14:21.016 task force supporting people seeking 02:14:21.040 --> 02:14:23.736 asylum. we also had an opportunity to 02:14:23.760 --> 02:14:25.175 meet with Christy McBain, the other 02:14:25.199 --> 02:14:27.416 local government minister. as well as 02:14:27.440 --> 02:14:29.016 meet with the Lord Mayers of Mel 02:14:29.040 --> 02:14:31.496 Melbourne, Hobart and Perth um with 02:14:31.520 --> 02:14:33.655 respect to the task force. There was a 02:14:33.679 --> 02:14:35.655 range of actions that came out of that 02:14:35.679 --> 02:14:37.175 meeting that we have since actually 02:14:37.199 --> 02:14:38.615 actioned. So I just wanted to follow up 02:14:38.639 --> 02:14:40.936 on those. So key outcomes for Kingston 02:14:40.960 --> 02:14:42.215 was that we built and formed 02:14:42.239 --> 02:14:43.736 relationships with similarsized 02:14:43.760 --> 02:14:46.760 councils. Um we positioned council as 02:14:47.119 --> 02:14:48.936 a key strategic partner to advise key 02:14:48.960 --> 02:14:50.936 ministers and stakeholders. Strengthened 02:14:50.960 --> 02:14:52.456 Kingston's national profile and 02:14:52.480 --> 02:14:54.456 influence on local government policy. 02:14:54.480 --> 02:14:56.296 Secured federal insights and advocacy 02:14:56.320 --> 02:14:57.655 pathways for infrastructure and 02:14:57.679 --> 02:14:59.655 sustainability initiatives. Expanded 02:14:59.679 --> 02:15:01.095 Kingston's leadership in social 02:15:01.119 --> 02:15:03.976 inclusion and refugee advocacy. forge m 02:15:04.000 --> 02:15:05.175 multicultural and diplomatic 02:15:05.199 --> 02:15:07.336 relationships um supporting the Lebanese 02:15:07.360 --> 02:15:09.575 Australian communities and diaspora 02:15:09.599 --> 02:15:11.416 advance nationally for greater youth 02:15:11.440 --> 02:15:14.376 participation and politics. on there 02:15:14.400 --> 02:15:16.215 it said that some of these follow-up 02:15:16.239 --> 02:15:17.416 actions where we were going to meet with 02:15:17.440 --> 02:15:20.296 Matt Greg the new MP and Bassam Abdo. Um 02:15:20.320 --> 02:15:21.976 I will say that we have since met with 02:15:22.000 --> 02:15:23.655 Matt Greg a couple of weeks ago. That 02:15:23.679 --> 02:15:25.416 was a fantastic opportunity to raise the 02:15:25.440 --> 02:15:28.440 task force pro priorities. and 02:15:28.639 --> 02:15:30.055 we have a meeting to be confirmed with 02:15:30.079 --> 02:15:32.695 Bassman Abdo coming up. I've also got a 02:15:32.719 --> 02:15:34.296 summary of tables of the meetings that 02:15:34.320 --> 02:15:36.376 we were able to meet with council. Thank 02:15:36.400 --> 02:15:36.776 you. 02:15:36.800 --> 02:15:38.936 Thank you. 02:15:38.960 --> 02:15:40.456 Are there any other councilors wishing 02:15:40.480 --> 02:15:43.480 to speak to the motion? 02:15:44.719 --> 02:15:47.416 There being none, I will put that to the 02:15:47.440 --> 02:15:50.440 vote. All those in favor 02:15:52.000 --> 02:15:53.976 that is councelor Agatan, councelor 02:15:54.000 --> 02:15:55.976 O'Donnell, councelor Law, councelor 02:15:56.000 --> 02:15:57.816 Athanosopoulos, councelor Ashworth, 02:15:57.840 --> 02:16:00.215 Collett, councelor Revanus, councelor 02:16:00.239 --> 02:16:03.239 Howe, Councelor Saab and myself. All those 02:16:03.280 --> 02:16:06.280 against councelor White. 02:16:06.639 --> 02:16:09.639 Thank you. That is carried. 02:16:10.960 --> 02:16:13.816 We'll move to item 10.4, the Kingston 02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:16.840 community local law. 02:16:16.880 --> 02:16:19.095 Councelor 02:16:19.119 --> 02:16:21.256 O'Donnell has moved. Councelor O'Donnell 02:16:21.280 --> 02:16:23.336 the office of recommendation. 02:16:23.360 --> 02:16:25.016 Thank you. Are you seconding? Councelor 02:16:25.040 --> 02:16:27.175 Howe. Thank you. 02:16:27.199 --> 02:16:28.215 Councelor O'Donnell, do you wish to 02:16:28.239 --> 02:16:29.976 speak to the motion? 02:16:30.000 --> 02:16:31.896 Most definitely. 02:16:31.920 --> 02:16:34.920 Whilst we received some unbelievably 02:16:35.200 --> 02:16:38.200 large amount of emails in regards to the 02:16:38.479 --> 02:16:40.375 community consultation regarding our 02:16:40.399 --> 02:16:43.399 local laws, I must say it was um 02:16:45.519 --> 02:16:47.896 well it was very daunting at at a pro 02:16:47.920 --> 02:16:49.816 moment there for a for a little while. 02:16:49.840 --> 02:16:52.216 But um the number of conversations and 02:16:52.240 --> 02:16:54.216 communication that I had within the 02:16:54.240 --> 02:16:57.240 community to speak with people I've 02:16:57.439 --> 02:17:00.375 never met before um and to to find the 02:17:00.399 --> 02:17:03.399 people in your community who 02:17:04.160 --> 02:17:06.856 rely so heavily on something as simple 02:17:06.880 --> 02:17:09.655 as an access point from their house to a 02:17:09.679 --> 02:17:11.495 park or a walkway or the beach in in a 02:17:11.519 --> 02:17:14.375 lot of the cases. Um, I got to speak 02:17:14.399 --> 02:17:16.295 with a number of residents and one woman 02:17:16.319 --> 02:17:18.535 that particularly 02:17:18.559 --> 02:17:20.936 struck with me was someone I didn't even 02:17:20.960 --> 02:17:23.335 realize lives within less of a kilometer 02:17:23.359 --> 02:17:26.359 of my own home. Um, she is a woman who 02:17:26.880 --> 02:17:28.615 is visually 02:17:28.639 --> 02:17:31.575 impaired and requires the assistance of 02:17:31.599 --> 02:17:34.599 a guide dog. Um, her property accesses 02:17:35.439 --> 02:17:37.495 the beach, which she deliberately bought 02:17:37.519 --> 02:17:40.216 there and used a lot of her savings and 02:17:40.240 --> 02:17:43.176 her retirement to be able to to purchase 02:17:43.200 --> 02:17:45.495 that property and live there. And 02:17:45.519 --> 02:17:48.056 every single day her and her dog head 02:17:48.080 --> 02:17:49.655 out for a walk. And she did that so that 02:17:49.679 --> 02:17:51.976 she was able to access the beach safely. 02:17:52.000 --> 02:17:54.375 And I think in a day-to-day life, I know 02:17:54.399 --> 02:17:56.615 I certainly don't think of it. Um, and 02:17:56.639 --> 02:17:58.216 we take for granted the things that we 02:17:58.240 --> 02:18:01.240 can do and can achieve. Um because I 02:18:02.399 --> 02:18:05.399 have my full vision and function. 02:18:05.840 --> 02:18:08.216 Walking on the beach with her dog every 02:18:08.240 --> 02:18:11.240 day makes this woman's day. She is it it 02:18:13.359 --> 02:18:15.096 she rain, hail or shine, she'll be out 02:18:15.120 --> 02:18:16.936 there um except for possibly the 02:18:16.960 --> 02:18:19.655 occasional when we lose Aspenale Beach 02:18:19.679 --> 02:18:22.216 due to um westerly winds and and 02:18:22.240 --> 02:18:23.896 onshores. 02:18:23.920 --> 02:18:26.920 So hearing the many scenarios and and 02:18:28.000 --> 02:18:30.056 life stories from people who live there 02:18:30.080 --> 02:18:31.736 for 02:18:31.760 --> 02:18:33.335 who have been there for some of their 02:18:33.359 --> 02:18:36.216 families over 80 90 years. Um, and in 02:18:36.240 --> 02:18:37.976 some cases, people dealing with severe 02:18:38.000 --> 02:18:39.736 diSaabilities. Or in one another 02:18:39.760 --> 02:18:42.760 situation, a family's daughter who has 02:18:44.639 --> 02:18:47.335 autism and is in her 30s, but she's able 02:18:47.359 --> 02:18:50.216 to live unassisted in the townhouse that 02:18:50.240 --> 02:18:53.240 she's in on Aspenale Beach by herself 02:18:53.840 --> 02:18:56.295 and enjoys her daily walks out there. 02:18:56.319 --> 02:18:58.056 Chats to everyone. I think this this 02:18:58.080 --> 02:19:00.375 woman knows every dog's name by the way, 02:19:00.399 --> 02:19:01.736 and don't challenge her because she's 02:19:01.760 --> 02:19:04.535 got it she's got it sorted. Um, but I 02:19:04.559 --> 02:19:05.736 want do want to thank the community. 02:19:05.760 --> 02:19:06.936 That's what it's there for. We put it 02:19:06.960 --> 02:19:09.016 out to community consultation and we 02:19:09.040 --> 02:19:11.415 want to hear from you. 02:19:11.439 --> 02:19:14.439 800 to a,000 emails was a lot. Um, and 02:19:15.359 --> 02:19:17.655 thank you. But it was also great getting 02:19:17.679 --> 02:19:20.615 to to hear and understand Howe much 02:19:20.639 --> 02:19:23.639 something can mean to someone on just 02:19:23.760 --> 02:19:25.176 every day and the difference it can make 02:19:25.200 --> 02:19:26.695 in their life. So, thank you to the 02:19:26.719 --> 02:19:29.719 community. I know councelor Howe received 02:19:30.559 --> 02:19:33.559 a number of emails and phone calls and 02:19:34.160 --> 02:19:35.655 text messages and we couldn't go to the 02:19:35.679 --> 02:19:37.016 supermarket. I did start shopping 02:19:37.040 --> 02:19:39.256 elsewhere for a moment on some days cuz 02:19:39.280 --> 02:19:41.495 it was a bit much. Councelor Ashworth 02:19:41.519 --> 02:19:44.519 Klette and yourself Mayor Oxley um with 02:19:44.719 --> 02:19:46.295 our residents that do front onto the 02:19:46.319 --> 02:19:48.216 beach. We certainly did hear you loud 02:19:48.240 --> 02:19:50.455 and clear and thank you. And I know that 02:19:50.479 --> 02:19:52.136 I've also equally received the feedback 02:19:52.160 --> 02:19:54.375 from these residents and our community 02:19:54.399 --> 02:19:55.976 members 02:19:56.000 --> 02:19:58.056 thanking us so much for the outcome that 02:19:58.080 --> 02:20:00.375 we've come to. So I'll be very happily 02:20:00.399 --> 02:20:02.216 voting this through this evening because 02:20:02.240 --> 02:20:04.616 it caused a fair bit of stress there 02:20:04.640 --> 02:20:05.656 for a moment, but we've certainly 02:20:05.680 --> 02:20:06.856 reached an outcome that the community is 02:20:06.880 --> 02:20:09.496 very happy with. So thank you everybody. 02:20:09.520 --> 02:20:11.176 Thank you councelor O'Donnell. Councelor 02:20:11.200 --> 02:20:12.936 Howe. 02:20:12.960 --> 02:20:15.960 Thank you Mayor Oxley. um this proposed 02:20:16.160 --> 02:20:19.096 policy when I went out for consultation 02:20:19.120 --> 02:20:21.335 it was amazing to see that when somebody 02:20:21.359 --> 02:20:23.096 feels threatened that they're going to 02:20:23.120 --> 02:20:24.455 lose everything that that everything 02:20:24.479 --> 02:20:26.536 that they love Howe quickly they can 02:20:26.560 --> 02:20:28.375 connect galvanize and mobilize 02:20:28.399 --> 02:20:31.096 themselves. 02:20:31.120 --> 02:20:32.616 The strong benefit of having a local 02:20:32.640 --> 02:20:34.295 government is that they can readily 02:20:34.319 --> 02:20:36.216 access 02:20:36.240 --> 02:20:38.136 the community 02:20:38.160 --> 02:20:41.160 and act promptly. 02:20:41.359 --> 02:20:43.496 So council ingested the feedback to been 02:20:43.520 --> 02:20:45.816 totally transparent noting the feedback 02:20:45.840 --> 02:20:47.736 in this report and have presented the 02:20:47.760 --> 02:20:50.536 report removing the clauses 13.1 and 02:20:50.560 --> 02:20:52.616 13.2. 02:20:52.640 --> 02:20:55.256 Importantly this feedback scene has seen 02:20:55.280 --> 02:20:58.280 a focus on continuous improvement and 02:20:58.319 --> 02:20:59.816 that has already commenced within this 02:20:59.840 --> 02:21:02.295 council. So the next consultation 02:21:02.319 --> 02:21:04.295 process will be starting to become 02:21:04.319 --> 02:21:06.936 better. So it's a great result. I've 02:21:06.960 --> 02:21:09.960 actually got 513 emails on this. So, a 02:21:10.000 --> 02:21:11.896 lot of emails. Um, I love the 02:21:11.920 --> 02:21:14.455 engagement. Um, it actually helped me 02:21:14.479 --> 02:21:16.295 connect with a lot of people who I had 02:21:16.319 --> 02:21:19.319 had not known before and in some cases 02:21:19.600 --> 02:21:22.600 hadn't um met for over 20 years. So, 02:21:23.359 --> 02:21:25.496 loved it and great result. Thank you 02:21:25.520 --> 02:21:27.496 to the officers and all the counselors 02:21:27.520 --> 02:21:28.776 involved. 02:21:28.800 --> 02:21:30.536 Thank you, councelor Howe. Any other 02:21:30.560 --> 02:21:33.560 counselors? Councelor Ashworth Collett. 02:21:35.200 --> 02:21:37.096 I'd like to thank the staff for their 02:21:37.120 --> 02:21:39.656 hard work on this. I know that they also 02:21:39.680 --> 02:21:41.736 received along with us counselors a lot 02:21:41.760 --> 02:21:43.576 of phone calls and emails and spent a 02:21:43.600 --> 02:21:45.976 lot of time um chatting to the 02:21:46.000 --> 02:21:48.696 community. Um this is exactly what we go 02:21:48.720 --> 02:21:50.536 out to consultation for to hear from 02:21:50.560 --> 02:21:53.496 people in our community and it was 02:21:53.520 --> 02:21:55.176 great talking to so many people that I 02:21:55.200 --> 02:21:57.335 met um a door knocked a lot around this 02:21:57.359 --> 02:21:59.415 area in my campaigning. It was actually 02:21:59.439 --> 02:22:00.936 great to talk to people on the phone 02:22:00.960 --> 02:22:03.736 afterwards that I'd met previously and 02:22:03.760 --> 02:22:05.736 talk them through this. Um, even in my 02:22:05.760 --> 02:22:08.216 Osteo appointment, she was also telling 02:22:08.240 --> 02:22:11.240 me about this. So, um, 02:22:11.840 --> 02:22:13.736 we've heard you glad and clear. And we 02:22:13.760 --> 02:22:16.136 had just under 900 submissions in 02:22:16.160 --> 02:22:18.295 regards to this. Also, along with the 02:22:18.319 --> 02:22:21.016 caravan and trailer storage, we adjusted 02:22:21.040 --> 02:22:23.256 that slightly from the 7-day limit to 02:22:23.280 --> 02:22:26.280 the 14 days, which was um, good change. 02:22:26.800 --> 02:22:28.936 This comes with a more more than just 02:22:28.960 --> 02:22:31.335 these items that we've removed and the 02:22:31.359 --> 02:22:34.216 the changing to the caravan caravan 02:22:34.240 --> 02:22:37.176 storage pardon me. Um and yes and thank 02:22:37.200 --> 02:22:38.696 you for the staff for their hard work 02:22:38.720 --> 02:22:41.415 putting this all together. 02:22:41.439 --> 02:22:42.856 Thank you councelor Ashworth Klette 02:22:42.880 --> 02:22:44.696 Council Saab. 02:22:44.720 --> 02:22:47.176 Thank you. just a question if I can 02:22:47.200 --> 02:22:49.256 mayor through to the relevant officer. 02:22:49.280 --> 02:22:52.280 Um the question is with respect to um 02:22:54.319 --> 02:22:55.736 I mean we all understand that there was 02:22:55.760 --> 02:22:58.136 a lot of queries around almost a 02:22:58.160 --> 02:22:59.896 miscommunication or misunderstanding of 02:22:59.920 --> 02:23:01.335 what was actually going out onto 02:23:01.359 --> 02:23:03.016 consultation and there was letter box 02:23:03.040 --> 02:23:05.335 drops. what is the plan that 02:23:05.359 --> 02:23:07.496 council's got now in order to address 02:23:07.520 --> 02:23:08.856 some of those concerns that were 02:23:08.880 --> 02:23:11.016 highlighted that weren't necesSaabily 02:23:11.040 --> 02:23:13.335 what what was being proposed and was 02:23:13.359 --> 02:23:15.496 essentially kind of miscommunicated to 02:23:15.520 --> 02:23:18.520 the community. once this is adopted. 02:23:21.359 --> 02:23:23.256 Have you got a specific example? 02:23:23.280 --> 02:23:25.176 yeah, around those two particular 02:23:25.200 --> 02:23:27.656 clauses. Um and what was being letter 02:23:27.680 --> 02:23:30.216 boxed from the community? Not 02:23:30.240 --> 02:23:32.216 necesSaabily exactly what we were 02:23:32.240 --> 02:23:33.496 proposing. 02:23:33.520 --> 02:23:36.375 Um Howe are we now communicating to the 02:23:36.399 --> 02:23:37.736 rest of the community about what's 02:23:37.760 --> 02:23:38.856 actually going on 02:23:38.880 --> 02:23:41.656 as in the gate the access to public open 02:23:41.680 --> 02:23:42.136 space? 02:23:42.160 --> 02:23:43.016 Yes. Yes. 02:23:43.040 --> 02:23:44.936 look, it's not something we 02:23:44.960 --> 02:23:46.856 specifically discussed. I'd really need 02:23:46.880 --> 02:23:48.375 to take the question on notice. I don't 02:23:48.399 --> 02:23:50.056 Mr. Hogan can shed any further light at 02:23:50.080 --> 02:23:52.536 it, but it's not necesSaabily applied our 02:23:52.560 --> 02:23:53.415 mind too. 02:23:53.439 --> 02:23:54.136 Okay. 02:23:54.160 --> 02:23:56.536 Are you asking Howe we're going to go and 02:23:56.560 --> 02:23:58.536 inform the community of sort of the 02:23:58.560 --> 02:24:01.560 decision we're making tonight? Is that 02:24:01.760 --> 02:24:03.016 maybe I'll be clear with my question. 02:24:03.040 --> 02:24:05.016 That's right. Sorry. So, not 02:24:05.040 --> 02:24:06.856 necesSaabily just on what we end up 02:24:06.880 --> 02:24:08.856 adopting, but there was a level of 02:24:08.880 --> 02:24:10.696 misunderstanding in the community about 02:24:10.720 --> 02:24:12.136 what was actually being proposed. And 02:24:12.160 --> 02:24:13.816 even if we adopt this now, there is 02:24:13.840 --> 02:24:15.656 still community that are still a bit 02:24:15.680 --> 02:24:17.896 confused about what we're what's 02:24:17.920 --> 02:24:19.335 happening with those gates. So Howe are 02:24:19.359 --> 02:24:21.256 we now communicating to the community 02:24:21.280 --> 02:24:22.856 that that is not anything that we are 02:24:22.880 --> 02:24:24.776 doing or touching? 02:24:24.800 --> 02:24:26.936 Are we going to be doing that? 02:24:26.960 --> 02:24:28.776 Mr. Hogan. 02:24:28.800 --> 02:24:31.800 thank you. And through you. Um so two 02:24:32.640 --> 02:24:35.176 things to be to be aware of. the 893 02:24:35.200 --> 02:24:37.016 people who contacted us through 02:24:37.040 --> 02:24:38.776 official channels have received a 02:24:38.800 --> 02:24:41.800 response from council directly and 02:24:42.160 --> 02:24:44.056 further to that upon the resolution 02:24:44.080 --> 02:24:46.696 tonight those um people who have engaged 02:24:46.720 --> 02:24:48.616 through our formal channels will also be 02:24:48.640 --> 02:24:50.375 informed of the outcome of council's 02:24:50.399 --> 02:24:52.056 resolution as well. So there is an 02:24:52.080 --> 02:24:54.776 intent to do that. Um whether or not 02:24:54.800 --> 02:24:56.776 there's any planning to do further 02:24:56.800 --> 02:24:58.455 letter box drop at this point has not 02:24:58.479 --> 02:25:01.479 been considered currently. 02:25:01.840 --> 02:25:03.256 Okay, I'll just I'll make a statement 02:25:03.280 --> 02:25:06.280 then. Um, so I I don't actually think 02:25:06.479 --> 02:25:07.896 that's enough because there is a level 02:25:07.920 --> 02:25:09.576 of miscommunication and misunderstanding 02:25:09.600 --> 02:25:11.176 in our community. I'm still getting 02:25:11.200 --> 02:25:13.016 calls even just yesterday or this 02:25:13.040 --> 02:25:14.856 morning even, sorry, there must have 02:25:14.880 --> 02:25:16.295 been another round of letter box 02:25:16.319 --> 02:25:17.736 dropping done in the community about 02:25:17.760 --> 02:25:20.056 something that we are not doing. Um, and 02:25:20.080 --> 02:25:21.656 I'm I'm supportive of where we're going 02:25:21.680 --> 02:25:23.096 and I really thank the officers for 02:25:23.120 --> 02:25:24.375 where we've landed with this and I think 02:25:24.399 --> 02:25:25.656 it's important as councelor O'Donnell 02:25:25.680 --> 02:25:28.136 had spoken that we do preserve this. A 02:25:28.160 --> 02:25:30.776 lot of my residents who but reserves 02:25:30.800 --> 02:25:32.295 were really concerned not just the 02:25:32.319 --> 02:25:35.319 foreshore but um they are confused still 02:25:37.600 --> 02:25:39.976 with what council is proposing. and 02:25:40.000 --> 02:25:41.335 I'm not suggesting we need to do a 02:25:41.359 --> 02:25:42.856 letter box drop or anything like that, 02:25:42.880 --> 02:25:44.776 but there needs to be some sort of 02:25:44.800 --> 02:25:47.176 communication to the community about 02:25:47.200 --> 02:25:49.176 what the actual local law is now going 02:25:49.200 --> 02:25:51.656 to do to combat the miscommunication 02:25:51.680 --> 02:25:53.656 that was out in the community in the 02:25:53.680 --> 02:25:56.680 first instance, which led to the 800 02:25:57.120 --> 02:25:59.016 emails, I think someone said, that we 02:25:59.040 --> 02:26:01.496 had received and the countless calls 02:26:01.520 --> 02:26:03.736 that I'm sure we all had received. So, 02:26:03.760 --> 02:26:05.415 I'm I'm supportive of where we're going 02:26:05.439 --> 02:26:06.936 with this. I just wanted to note that I 02:26:06.960 --> 02:26:08.536 think there probably needs to be some 02:26:08.560 --> 02:26:11.560 additional work. Maybe I'm not in a 02:26:11.760 --> 02:26:13.016 statement. I'm not sure Howe council 02:26:13.040 --> 02:26:14.295 wants to do it, but if council could 02:26:14.319 --> 02:26:16.136 consider the way that we then go and 02:26:16.160 --> 02:26:17.736 communicate to our community to address 02:26:17.760 --> 02:26:19.656 some of those initial concerns, not just 02:26:19.680 --> 02:26:21.496 the ones who emailed, but I know that 02:26:21.520 --> 02:26:22.856 there's countless more that hadn't 02:26:22.880 --> 02:26:25.880 necesSaabily emailed. 02:26:26.000 --> 02:26:27.415 Yeah, I think I've got a handle on what 02:26:27.439 --> 02:26:29.256 you're talking about. I I think what we 02:26:29.280 --> 02:26:31.736 can do is probably through specifically 02:26:31.760 --> 02:26:33.256 social media in the short term, we can 02:26:33.280 --> 02:26:35.176 target putting out a more broad post 02:26:35.200 --> 02:26:37.736 around I guess key highlights or key 02:26:37.760 --> 02:26:40.536 concerns that the council have have um 02:26:40.560 --> 02:26:42.776 adjusted from the draft to now. And I 02:26:42.800 --> 02:26:44.536 think we could also probably flag in the 02:26:44.560 --> 02:26:46.056 next Kingston York City again 02:26:46.080 --> 02:26:48.536 highlighting what what council have done 02:26:48.560 --> 02:26:51.496 to adopt or adapt to the new local 02:26:51.520 --> 02:26:54.520 law. Is that what Okay, we we can 02:26:54.720 --> 02:26:55.415 certainly do that. 02:26:55.439 --> 02:26:56.776 That that is exactly what I would love 02:26:56.800 --> 02:26:57.496 to see. Yeah, 02:26:57.520 --> 02:26:58.696 we we got there. Council, 02:26:58.720 --> 02:27:01.720 thank you so much, 02:27:03.439 --> 02:27:06.439 Councelor Thanos. 02:27:06.479 --> 02:27:09.096 Thanks, Mayor. Thanks, everyone. 02:27:09.120 --> 02:27:11.896 ditto to all the comments made about 02:27:11.920 --> 02:27:13.816 the communication with the community. 02:27:13.840 --> 02:27:15.576 There was about 50 that I didn't get a 02:27:15.600 --> 02:27:17.656 chance to respond to, but now's my 02:27:17.680 --> 02:27:18.776 chance, I suppose. So, thank you for 02:27:18.800 --> 02:27:21.256 your feedback. And as you can see, the 02:27:21.280 --> 02:27:24.280 consultative process um, 02:27:24.960 --> 02:27:27.816 bear fruit bear It it gave us the fruit 02:27:27.840 --> 02:27:29.816 that we wanted basically. I'll make it 02:27:29.840 --> 02:27:32.840 simple. Um obviously thank you for 02:27:34.560 --> 02:27:36.295 councelor Ashworth call it for bringing 02:27:36.319 --> 02:27:37.816 up that there was another clause there 02:27:37.840 --> 02:27:39.415 that seemed to get some feedback that 02:27:39.439 --> 02:27:41.736 everyone seems to forget about which is 02:27:41.760 --> 02:27:44.760 oh provision 63 around um the 02:27:45.920 --> 02:27:47.896 trailers caravans and I just want to 02:27:47.920 --> 02:27:49.976 highlight again that it is important 02:27:50.000 --> 02:27:51.656 that everyone acknowledges that this is 02:27:51.680 --> 02:27:53.335 the perfect process. You know, it's good 02:27:53.359 --> 02:27:55.335 that we get feedback and we get told 02:27:55.359 --> 02:27:57.496 that what what the community does want, 02:27:57.520 --> 02:27:59.415 doesn't want, etc. One thing that I 02:27:59.439 --> 02:28:01.016 would recommend for council moving 02:28:01.040 --> 02:28:02.696 forward is especially when we're doing 02:28:02.720 --> 02:28:03.896 big ones like this which only come 02:28:03.920 --> 02:28:06.536 around every 10 years is that we have a 02:28:06.560 --> 02:28:09.560 table of we asked 02:28:09.920 --> 02:28:12.920 you said we did in consultative 02:28:13.520 --> 02:28:15.335 processes when we communicate through 02:28:15.359 --> 02:28:18.295 social media whatever else clear you 02:28:18.319 --> 02:28:21.016 know distinction from where we started 02:28:21.040 --> 02:28:23.096 what you said to us and then what came 02:28:23.120 --> 02:28:25.656 out of it. So everyone is aware that we 02:28:25.680 --> 02:28:28.216 actually do take on board all this 02:28:28.240 --> 02:28:30.136 feedback that people do give us. There 02:28:30.160 --> 02:28:31.976 are obviously going to be instances this 02:28:32.000 --> 02:28:34.776 doesn't occur. So we have to in the we 02:28:34.800 --> 02:28:36.536 did component we'll probably have to say 02:28:36.560 --> 02:28:38.375 not much because we don't agree with 02:28:38.399 --> 02:28:40.295 what your feedback was but in this 02:28:40.319 --> 02:28:42.295 instance it would be a good story to 02:28:42.319 --> 02:28:45.319 tell the community. So um I commend this 02:28:45.840 --> 02:28:47.415 item. 02:28:47.439 --> 02:28:49.096 Thank you councelor Thanosopoulos. Any 02:28:49.120 --> 02:28:52.120 other counselors? Councelor Reanus. 02:28:52.720 --> 02:28:55.496 Thank you, Madame Mayor. Yes, just um 02:28:55.520 --> 02:28:58.520 extending on the um the the 63 with um 02:28:59.359 --> 02:29:02.359 regarding the caravans and the boats. Um 02:29:02.800 --> 02:29:05.096 it's great that it has been the 02:29:05.120 --> 02:29:08.120 permits have been extended to 14 days 02:29:08.240 --> 02:29:11.240 but in speaking with one of the officers 02:29:11.760 --> 02:29:14.760 I have been advised that it's not that 02:29:15.040 --> 02:29:18.040 although it's fixed um for people who 02:29:18.160 --> 02:29:20.056 are concerned that you know that they 02:29:20.080 --> 02:29:22.776 can't get rid of their their vehicles in 02:29:22.800 --> 02:29:25.800 that time that they can apply for um 02:29:25.840 --> 02:29:28.840 extensions with good reason and so I 02:29:29.280 --> 02:29:31.096 just thought that the community should 02:29:31.120 --> 02:29:33.415 know that. Thank you. 02:29:33.439 --> 02:29:35.576 Thank you, councelor Reidas. Council 02:29:35.600 --> 02:29:38.600 law. 02:29:39.359 --> 02:29:41.335 Thank you through you, Mayor. just to 02:29:41.359 --> 02:29:42.856 pivot the conversation slightly, can I 02:29:42.880 --> 02:29:45.880 ask a question, please? through Mr. 02:29:46.399 --> 02:29:48.776 Goodman. In what circumstances can a 02:29:48.800 --> 02:29:50.696 permit be issued to a resident for 02:29:50.720 --> 02:29:53.335 storing a caravan, boat or trailer on a 02:29:53.359 --> 02:29:56.136 council road under Core 63 if longer 02:29:56.160 --> 02:29:57.896 than 14 days? 02:29:57.920 --> 02:30:00.920 Mr. Goodwin. 02:30:01.359 --> 02:30:04.056 Um thank you council law and through you 02:30:04.080 --> 02:30:06.536 Madame Mayor. Um the relevant provision 02:30:06.560 --> 02:30:09.560 council is on 02:30:10.240 --> 02:30:13.240 um page 19 of the amended local law 02:30:13.520 --> 02:30:16.295 proposed amended local law under clause 02:30:16.319 --> 02:30:18.216 63 and it reads as follows. The person 02:30:18.240 --> 02:30:21.240 must not without a permit store any road 02:30:21.600 --> 02:30:24.600 or council land a 02:30:24.960 --> 02:30:27.960 boat. Part two is trailer or part three 02:30:28.720 --> 02:30:31.720 is caravan or recreational vehicle for 02:30:31.840 --> 02:30:34.840 more than 14 consecutive days in a 02:30:35.120 --> 02:30:37.096 continuous six-month period. So 02:30:37.120 --> 02:30:39.176 importantly it triggers the need for a 02:30:39.200 --> 02:30:40.696 permit. 02:30:40.720 --> 02:30:43.576 The reasons council officers, authorized 02:30:43.600 --> 02:30:46.600 officers might consider discretion to be 02:30:46.880 --> 02:30:49.880 provided might be things 02:30:50.319 --> 02:30:53.319 along the lines of um the individual 02:30:53.359 --> 02:30:55.896 concerned potentially struggling to 02:30:55.920 --> 02:30:58.920 secure offsite storage, sorry, off-road 02:30:59.600 --> 02:31:02.136 storage for their caravan um for a 02:31:02.160 --> 02:31:05.160 period of time. Um, 02:31:05.920 --> 02:31:08.920 another circumstance might be that um 02:31:09.600 --> 02:31:11.896 the the ve the caravan or the trailer is 02:31:11.920 --> 02:31:14.696 going to be borrowed by a party for an 02:31:14.720 --> 02:31:17.656 indefinite period of time and that party 02:31:17.680 --> 02:31:20.295 can't collect it for 16 days or whatever 02:31:20.319 --> 02:31:23.319 we might then deem it to be reasonable. 02:31:23.439 --> 02:31:24.776 Or there might be other compelling 02:31:24.800 --> 02:31:26.856 reasons that I just can't think of off 02:31:26.880 --> 02:31:29.880 the top of my head. But um my experience 02:31:30.640 --> 02:31:33.496 and understanding of why um our officers 02:31:33.520 --> 02:31:35.415 have recommended that we have a trigger 02:31:35.439 --> 02:31:38.295 for this issue is that there are um 02:31:38.319 --> 02:31:40.856 segments of our community particularly 02:31:40.880 --> 02:31:43.176 on narrow roads that are frustrated by 02:31:43.200 --> 02:31:44.936 people who leave such vehicles out 02:31:44.960 --> 02:31:47.176 indefinitely on their roads. And 02:31:47.200 --> 02:31:49.176 therefore we're interested in creating a 02:31:49.200 --> 02:31:52.200 trigger whereby it would be possible for 02:31:52.479 --> 02:31:55.479 council to grant a period um grant a 02:31:55.520 --> 02:31:57.496 permit sorry for a period of 14 days 02:31:57.520 --> 02:32:00.520 which is was discussed in the council 02:32:00.960 --> 02:32:03.016 debate has been extended I think from 02:32:03.040 --> 02:32:05.736 seven as originally proposed. So they 02:32:05.760 --> 02:32:07.576 would be the kind of circumstances and 02:32:07.600 --> 02:32:10.216 yes you could apply for successive 02:32:10.240 --> 02:32:11.736 permits. 02:32:11.760 --> 02:32:13.816 think we would just be asking that 02:32:13.840 --> 02:32:16.295 individual to confirm why they 02:32:16.319 --> 02:32:18.776 potentially couldn't store the caravan, 02:32:18.800 --> 02:32:20.455 trailer, or boat in an alternate 02:32:20.479 --> 02:32:23.479 location. Thank you. 02:32:26.399 --> 02:32:28.856 Thank you, Mr. Goodman. the Kingston 02:32:28.880 --> 02:32:30.455 community local law is setting out our 02:32:30.479 --> 02:32:32.536 rules for Howe we live together, 02:32:32.560 --> 02:32:33.576 balancing our freedom and 02:32:33.600 --> 02:32:35.335 responsibilities. 02:32:35.359 --> 02:32:37.256 it. For those who don't have the 02:32:37.280 --> 02:32:39.016 context, it's laws on parking, waste 02:32:39.040 --> 02:32:40.536 management, and other amenities which 02:32:40.560 --> 02:32:42.856 affect our daily life. 02:32:42.880 --> 02:32:44.295 It's essential that these laws are 02:32:44.319 --> 02:32:46.056 accessible, fair, and supportive of our 02:32:46.080 --> 02:32:47.896 community well-being. Hence why I echo 02:32:47.920 --> 02:32:49.896 the sentiments of my co-ounselors, 02:32:49.920 --> 02:32:52.295 including councelor O'Donnell and um our 02:32:52.319 --> 02:32:54.856 deputy mayor regarding and councelor 02:32:54.880 --> 02:32:57.415 Thanos, regarding the feedback we've 02:32:57.439 --> 02:32:59.096 received from the community and us 02:32:59.120 --> 02:33:00.856 acting upon that feedback. So, thank you 02:33:00.880 --> 02:33:02.536 for all those who have passed that on to 02:33:02.560 --> 02:33:03.816 us. 02:33:03.840 --> 02:33:06.840 I do support the proposed local law. 02:33:07.120 --> 02:33:08.696 This is much needed update to our local 02:33:08.720 --> 02:33:11.096 law which was adopted 10 years ago. 02:33:11.120 --> 02:33:13.335 so it is worth taking the time which we 02:33:13.359 --> 02:33:14.936 have to make sure it reflects the 02:33:14.960 --> 02:33:17.415 evolving expectations of our community 02:33:17.439 --> 02:33:19.256 as well as our pressures um for our 02:33:19.280 --> 02:33:21.415 population moving forward. Our current 02:33:21.439 --> 02:33:24.439 population is 170,000 people and by 2041 02:33:24.800 --> 02:33:26.616 Kingston's population is forecast 02:33:26.640 --> 02:33:29.640 200,000 people which is an 18.6% growth. 02:33:30.720 --> 02:33:32.696 With more residents comes more 02:33:32.720 --> 02:33:34.216 pressing need for clear, contemporary 02:33:34.240 --> 02:33:36.536 and enforcable laws that ensures our 02:33:36.560 --> 02:33:38.616 municipality remains safe and also 02:33:38.640 --> 02:33:41.335 adaptable to future demands. the 02:33:41.359 --> 02:33:42.856 reason I asked my question through the 02:33:42.880 --> 02:33:44.295 mayor is of particularly important 02:33:44.319 --> 02:33:46.056 addition is something that I've received 02:33:46.080 --> 02:33:48.536 a lot of communication about which is 02:33:48.560 --> 02:33:51.096 clause 63 storing vehicles on a road. 02:33:51.120 --> 02:33:52.856 This clause responds directly to 02:33:52.880 --> 02:33:54.216 feedback from residents who voiced 02:33:54.240 --> 02:33:56.295 serious safety concerns about caravans, 02:33:56.319 --> 02:33:57.736 boats, and trailers obstructing 02:33:57.760 --> 02:34:00.136 sightelines on residential streets. 02:34:00.160 --> 02:34:01.496 There have been several near misses 02:34:01.520 --> 02:34:03.415 involving children trying to cross roads 02:34:03.439 --> 02:34:05.736 near schools and community centers um 02:34:05.760 --> 02:34:07.096 where their view has been blocked by 02:34:07.120 --> 02:34:09.576 oversized vehicles. If this cause 02:34:09.600 --> 02:34:11.335 prevents even one serious injury or 02:34:11.359 --> 02:34:12.856 saves the child's life, it will have 02:34:12.880 --> 02:34:15.016 definitely been worth it. Um I 02:34:15.040 --> 02:34:16.375 understand that some may find this an 02:34:16.399 --> 02:34:18.136 inconvenience for our caravan, boat and 02:34:18.160 --> 02:34:20.216 trailer owners, and I do acknowledge 02:34:20.240 --> 02:34:22.295 that. Howeever, the safety of our 02:34:22.319 --> 02:34:23.576 pedestrians, especially our most 02:34:23.600 --> 02:34:25.256 vulnerable, including our children, must 02:34:25.280 --> 02:34:27.415 take a priority. I did do a little bit 02:34:27.439 --> 02:34:28.936 of research and current daily storage 02:34:28.960 --> 02:34:31.816 rates for vehicles are around $3 per day 02:34:31.840 --> 02:34:33.496 which is a reasonable cost in exchange 02:34:33.520 --> 02:34:35.176 for reclaiming our streets of safety, 02:34:35.200 --> 02:34:37.415 access and amenity. It is a privilege 02:34:37.439 --> 02:34:39.335 and luxury to own a caravan boat or 02:34:39.359 --> 02:34:40.936 trailer and considering the cost to 02:34:40.960 --> 02:34:42.936 purchase one. This is a minor and easily 02:34:42.960 --> 02:34:45.415 absorbed fee. There are wider community 02:34:45.439 --> 02:34:47.896 benefits um and as mentioned there are 02:34:47.920 --> 02:34:50.536 options if there is case by case um 02:34:50.560 --> 02:34:53.560 hardship needed consideration. the 02:34:53.840 --> 02:34:55.576 draft law also reaffirms controls on 02:34:55.600 --> 02:34:57.576 animal keeping. Um under the guideline 02:34:57.600 --> 02:34:59.176 on keeping of animals, residents must 02:34:59.200 --> 02:35:00.616 seek a permit if they wish to keep more 02:35:00.640 --> 02:35:02.056 than a set number of animals, which is 02:35:02.080 --> 02:35:04.295 typically two dogs and two cats. I do 02:35:04.319 --> 02:35:05.736 believe this is fair and reasonable, and 02:35:05.760 --> 02:35:07.736 I know of other metro counselors who 02:35:07.760 --> 02:35:09.656 have more restrictive pet ownership 02:35:09.680 --> 02:35:11.896 local laws such as Marbbeck Council, who 02:35:11.920 --> 02:35:13.976 only allows one cat and one dog per 02:35:14.000 --> 02:35:16.696 townhouse unit or apartment. Um it is 02:35:16.720 --> 02:35:18.856 well known that pet ownership boosts 02:35:18.880 --> 02:35:20.616 mental health and offers companionship 02:35:20.640 --> 02:35:22.455 and enhance well-being and encourages 02:35:22.479 --> 02:35:24.616 physical activity particularly important 02:35:24.640 --> 02:35:27.256 and increasingly urbanized Kingston. So 02:35:27.280 --> 02:35:29.176 in closing our support, our proposed 02:35:29.200 --> 02:35:32.136 local law of 2025 at this tenure 02:35:32.160 --> 02:35:33.736 review has been much needed. It's a 02:35:33.760 --> 02:35:35.176 blueprint for a safer and more livable 02:35:35.200 --> 02:35:37.096 Kingston. And I'd like to give 02:35:37.120 --> 02:35:39.176 extended thanks especially to one 02:35:39.200 --> 02:35:41.816 particular council member um and 02:35:41.840 --> 02:35:44.616 officer Marlene for her ongoing work and 02:35:44.640 --> 02:35:46.856 efforts to put this together for us um 02:35:46.880 --> 02:35:48.776 and to have multiple conversations with 02:35:48.800 --> 02:35:50.776 all of us in producing what we have in 02:35:50.800 --> 02:35:52.696 front of us and taking on board all our 02:35:52.720 --> 02:35:55.176 feedback. So a huge thank you um for 02:35:55.200 --> 02:35:57.496 your time and effort. 02:35:57.520 --> 02:35:59.176 Thank you council law. Any other 02:35:59.200 --> 02:36:01.496 councilors? 02:36:01.520 --> 02:36:04.216 Council White. 02:36:04.240 --> 02:36:06.375 Um, so I won't be supporting the local 02:36:06.399 --> 02:36:09.399 laws tonight. Um, and I feel like 02:36:09.840 --> 02:36:11.656 sometimes I don't support things and 02:36:11.680 --> 02:36:13.976 then um, the community can't understand 02:36:14.000 --> 02:36:17.000 why. Um I think before this went out um 02:36:18.960 --> 02:36:21.960 the the in the meeting whatever month it 02:36:22.080 --> 02:36:24.295 was before the draft to go out to the 02:36:24.319 --> 02:36:26.856 community there was a a law that we had 02:36:26.880 --> 02:36:29.816 to change because it um wasn't 02:36:29.840 --> 02:36:31.496 consistent with the human rights 02:36:31.520 --> 02:36:34.520 charter. So this is kind of um you know 02:36:34.800 --> 02:36:36.936 and the complete overreach we saw and 02:36:36.960 --> 02:36:39.096 the community feedback we got from the 02:36:39.120 --> 02:36:41.656 local law that's no longer going to 02:36:41.680 --> 02:36:44.680 exist in there anymore. Um, so I mean 02:36:45.280 --> 02:36:47.496 that's kind of the space that these type 02:36:47.520 --> 02:36:50.520 of laws um play in and I don't want my 02:36:51.840 --> 02:36:54.616 name associated with anything like that 02:36:54.640 --> 02:36:56.856 and that's why I won't be supporting it 02:36:56.880 --> 02:36:58.776 tonight. I think that the majority of 02:36:58.800 --> 02:37:01.176 people will always do the right thing. 02:37:01.200 --> 02:37:03.256 Um, and the small minority that won't 02:37:03.280 --> 02:37:04.776 aren't going to be detered by these 02:37:04.800 --> 02:37:06.856 local laws. 02:37:06.880 --> 02:37:08.616 Thank you, Council White. Any other 02:37:08.640 --> 02:37:11.640 counselors? 02:37:11.920 --> 02:37:14.920 council Laura question. 02:37:15.680 --> 02:37:17.176 Just also like to thank Kelly from 02:37:17.200 --> 02:37:20.200 governance for all her work. 02:37:20.800 --> 02:37:23.176 I'll allow it simply because 02:37:23.200 --> 02:37:26.200 [Laughter] 02:37:26.319 --> 02:37:29.319 are there any other counselors 02:37:29.439 --> 02:37:31.736 before I ask councelor O'Donnell to 02:37:31.760 --> 02:37:34.375 close? Given the level of significant 02:37:34.399 --> 02:37:36.375 community interest that this has 02:37:36.399 --> 02:37:37.976 received, it would probably be remiss of 02:37:38.000 --> 02:37:41.000 me not to speak on this matter. Um, I 02:37:41.840 --> 02:37:44.056 think the number of emails I received 02:37:44.080 --> 02:37:47.080 was well over 500. So, um, I would like 02:37:47.359 --> 02:37:49.896 to thank the community for giving us 02:37:49.920 --> 02:37:51.816 their feedback because it's it's led to 02:37:51.840 --> 02:37:53.335 an outcome that has actually been 02:37:53.359 --> 02:37:56.359 directly led by you and that's something 02:37:56.640 --> 02:37:58.856 that I think is a really good thing. Um, 02:37:58.880 --> 02:38:00.856 a really healthy thing when council 02:38:00.880 --> 02:38:02.696 proposes doing something and the 02:38:02.720 --> 02:38:05.720 feedback is very very clear that the 02:38:06.080 --> 02:38:08.136 community is telling us not to go and do 02:38:08.160 --> 02:38:11.016 that thing. So it's it's proof that that 02:38:11.040 --> 02:38:13.496 community consultation works. 02:38:13.520 --> 02:38:15.176 notwithstanding the comments I know that 02:38:15.200 --> 02:38:17.016 have been made around the table at 02:38:17.040 --> 02:38:18.936 various CIS's that perhaps we need to 02:38:18.960 --> 02:38:21.256 adapt the way that we go and consult. So 02:38:21.280 --> 02:38:23.576 notwithstanding any of that um I think 02:38:23.600 --> 02:38:25.576 in this particular case it's done 02:38:25.600 --> 02:38:27.256 exactly what it needed to do and that 02:38:27.280 --> 02:38:29.256 was elicit a response from the community 02:38:29.280 --> 02:38:30.856 and elicit that feedback from the 02:38:30.880 --> 02:38:32.936 community that was they certainly went 02:38:32.960 --> 02:38:34.936 backward in coming forward in what they 02:38:34.960 --> 02:38:37.960 wanted. Um and overwhelmingly we have 02:38:39.760 --> 02:38:42.696 responded to that and responded in turn 02:38:42.720 --> 02:38:45.335 um to adapt what we were planning on on 02:38:45.359 --> 02:38:47.576 putting forward um to respond directly 02:38:47.600 --> 02:38:49.176 to the community. So I do want to thank 02:38:49.200 --> 02:38:51.176 the community for coming forward for 02:38:51.200 --> 02:38:52.856 spending the time. I know a lot of 02:38:52.880 --> 02:38:55.576 people organized community meetings, 02:38:55.600 --> 02:38:58.600 flyer walkouts. it certainly was a a 02:38:58.720 --> 02:39:00.936 community rallying um to provide that 02:39:00.960 --> 02:39:02.295 feedback. So I do want to thank the 02:39:02.319 --> 02:39:05.256 community for doing that. Um, but also 02:39:05.280 --> 02:39:07.976 too want to thank our staff who were on 02:39:08.000 --> 02:39:09.335 the other end of that as well and 02:39:09.359 --> 02:39:10.696 responding to all of that community 02:39:10.720 --> 02:39:13.335 feedback as well as counselors. Um, and 02:39:13.359 --> 02:39:15.976 making sure that we keep the community 02:39:16.000 --> 02:39:18.295 updated um, was a good question of 02:39:18.319 --> 02:39:20.455 councelor SS. We we got to the answer 02:39:20.479 --> 02:39:22.295 um, that I think everyone was after and 02:39:22.319 --> 02:39:24.136 that is us closing the loop with the 02:39:24.160 --> 02:39:25.736 community and informing them of what we 02:39:25.760 --> 02:39:27.896 are doing and that is something really 02:39:27.920 --> 02:39:30.920 really important. So was um, very happy 02:39:30.960 --> 02:39:32.295 to hear that we will be planning on 02:39:32.319 --> 02:39:34.455 doing that. Um and we'll make sure we do 02:39:34.479 --> 02:39:35.816 that obviously subject to this 02:39:35.840 --> 02:39:38.295 resolution this evening. Um but thank 02:39:38.319 --> 02:39:39.736 you to all of the officers from the 02:39:39.760 --> 02:39:41.976 various teams from comm's governance 02:39:42.000 --> 02:39:43.896 Jonathan's department and Maren your 02:39:43.920 --> 02:39:46.216 department as well. Um and I know it's 02:39:46.240 --> 02:39:48.776 been a very 02:39:48.800 --> 02:39:51.016 very interesting process for everyone to 02:39:51.040 --> 02:39:52.536 go through. We do it once every 10 02:39:52.560 --> 02:39:54.856 years. Um so just would like to thank 02:39:54.880 --> 02:39:56.375 everyone for their involvement. I think 02:39:56.399 --> 02:39:58.536 we have reached a very good outcome for 02:39:58.560 --> 02:40:00.856 the community. So councelor O'Donnell, 02:40:00.880 --> 02:40:03.096 would you like to close? Just want to 02:40:03.120 --> 02:40:04.375 say well done guys. I think we really 02:40:04.399 --> 02:40:06.455 worked as a team on this one. So we got 02:40:06.479 --> 02:40:08.455 there in the end. Thank you. 02:40:08.479 --> 02:40:09.896 Thank you councelor O'Donnell. I will 02:40:09.920 --> 02:40:12.920 put that to the vote. All those in favor 02:40:13.280 --> 02:40:15.096 that is councelor Agatan, councelor 02:40:15.120 --> 02:40:16.936 O'Donnell, councelor Law, councelor 02:40:16.960 --> 02:40:18.696 Athanasopoulos, councelor Ashworth 02:40:18.720 --> 02:40:20.696 Collett, councelor Reanus, councelor 02:40:20.720 --> 02:40:23.496 Howe, Councelor Saab and myself. All those 02:40:23.520 --> 02:40:26.520 against and abstaining council white 02:40:27.040 --> 02:40:30.040 that is carried. Thank you. 02:40:30.240 --> 02:40:32.936 Item 10.5, the advisory committee 02:40:32.960 --> 02:40:35.496 structure and terms of reference. Do I 02:40:35.520 --> 02:40:38.520 have a motion? Councelor Thanosopoulos, 02:40:40.319 --> 02:40:43.319 not as printed, but an alternate motion. 02:40:44.080 --> 02:40:45.415 Did you want me to read it out or did 02:40:45.439 --> 02:40:46.136 you want to read? 02:40:46.160 --> 02:40:49.160 I'll just clarify it once I get the 02:40:49.680 --> 02:40:52.680 right one up. Bear with me. 02:40:54.960 --> 02:40:57.816 02:40:57.840 --> 02:41:00.840 yeah. So 6 02:41:08.319 --> 02:41:11.319 I'm pretty 02:41:21.520 --> 02:41:24.216 councelors, are you moving just your 02:41:24.240 --> 02:41:26.056 point or any of the additional points? 02:41:26.080 --> 02:41:27.576 All the additional points. all of the 02:41:27.600 --> 02:41:29.256 additional points. Wonderful. It'll make 02:41:29.280 --> 02:41:32.216 it much easier for me. Bear with me just 02:41:32.240 --> 02:41:35.240 a moment. 02:42:05.280 --> 02:42:08.280 problem. Okay, bear with me just a 02:42:08.640 --> 02:42:10.136 moment 02:42:10.160 --> 02:42:12.616 because we don't have the screens. Are 02:42:12.640 --> 02:42:13.976 you happy for me to read it out so we 02:42:14.000 --> 02:42:16.936 can make sure it's the correct thing? 02:42:16.960 --> 02:42:19.176 So bear with me everyone because it's a 02:42:19.200 --> 02:42:22.200 long one. So this would be approve the 02:42:22.399 --> 02:42:25.016 advisory committee structure of access 02:42:25.040 --> 02:42:26.856 and equity, active Kingston, business 02:42:26.880 --> 02:42:28.776 and economic development, arts and 02:42:28.800 --> 02:42:31.016 culture and environment and open space. 02:42:31.040 --> 02:42:34.040 That's point one. Point two, endorse the 02:42:34.399 --> 02:42:36.375 continuation of youth voice and 02:42:36.399 --> 02:42:39.096 community safety to operate as working 02:42:39.120 --> 02:42:41.176 groups with current counselor 02:42:41.200 --> 02:42:42.696 appointments to those groups to 02:42:42.720 --> 02:42:44.455 continue. 02:42:44.479 --> 02:42:46.776 Point three, approve the advisory 02:42:46.800 --> 02:42:49.335 committee terms of reference subject to 02:42:49.359 --> 02:42:51.896 membership composition including up to 02:42:51.920 --> 02:42:54.295 four counselor representatives and 02:42:54.319 --> 02:42:56.375 between 8 and 12 community 02:42:56.399 --> 02:42:57.896 representatives. 02:42:57.920 --> 02:42:59.896 And note the administrative changes will 02:42:59.920 --> 02:43:01.736 be made to the terms of reference to 02:43:01.760 --> 02:43:04.760 reflect each advisory committee. 02:43:05.040 --> 02:43:08.040 Point four is as printed in the agenda. 02:43:09.280 --> 02:43:12.280 Point five has the following councilors 02:43:13.760 --> 02:43:15.335 on the advisory committees until 02:43:15.359 --> 02:43:17.576 November 2026. 02:43:17.600 --> 02:43:20.056 Councilors Oxley, Ashworth, Collett, and 02:43:20.080 --> 02:43:23.080 Law to access and equity. Councilors 02:43:23.760 --> 02:43:26.136 Councilors Athanosopouloolis, Hill and 02:43:26.160 --> 02:43:29.160 O'Donnell to active Kingston. Councilors 02:43:29.280 --> 02:43:32.280 Agatan, Revanus, O'Donnell, and White to 02:43:32.560 --> 02:43:34.616 business and economic development. 02:43:34.640 --> 02:43:35.976 Councilors Ashworth, Collett, 02:43:36.000 --> 02:43:38.856 Aanosopoulos, Hill and White to arts and 02:43:38.880 --> 02:43:41.880 culture. Councilors Are Revanus, Howe and 02:43:42.080 --> 02:43:45.080 SA to environment and open space. And 02:43:45.200 --> 02:43:48.200 six, so this is point six. Establish a 02:43:48.319 --> 02:43:50.616 community consultation working group to 02:43:50.640 --> 02:43:53.415 report back to council. 02:43:53.439 --> 02:43:54.936 Are you happy with that moving that 02:43:54.960 --> 02:43:56.776 council? 02:43:56.800 --> 02:43:57.576 Yes, I am. 02:43:57.600 --> 02:43:59.496 Thank you. Appreciate it. Do I have a 02:43:59.520 --> 02:44:02.295 second? Councelor O'Donnell. 02:44:02.319 --> 02:44:04.295 Councelor Athanasopoulos. 02:44:04.319 --> 02:44:07.319 Thank you. 02:44:07.439 --> 02:44:10.375 firstly, thanks to the community really 02:44:10.399 --> 02:44:12.295 because with a lot of these advisory 02:44:12.319 --> 02:44:15.096 groups, they come in dedicate their time 02:44:15.120 --> 02:44:17.496 unpaid. It's a bunch of different 02:44:17.520 --> 02:44:19.415 expertise or just being a community 02:44:19.439 --> 02:44:22.439 member quite frankly and giving their 02:44:23.120 --> 02:44:25.896 time and energy to us to make sure that 02:44:25.920 --> 02:44:28.295 we can be best advised when making 02:44:28.319 --> 02:44:30.295 decisions here in the chamber. So I 02:44:30.319 --> 02:44:32.776 think that my colleagues would together 02:44:32.800 --> 02:44:35.800 thank you first and foremost. Second is 02:44:36.399 --> 02:44:39.399 it is I I don't think I was on any of 02:44:39.760 --> 02:44:42.455 these advisory board committees after 02:44:42.479 --> 02:44:45.096 we announced them in November last year. 02:44:45.120 --> 02:44:48.120 had a lot of time on advisory 02:44:49.439 --> 02:44:51.816 committees and whatnot elsewhere and 02:44:51.840 --> 02:44:53.016 thought it was best that give 02:44:53.040 --> 02:44:56.040 opportunities to you know new council 02:44:56.800 --> 02:44:59.255 new council laws to to get on there and 02:44:59.279 --> 02:45:01.096 and sink their teeth into something. So 02:45:01.120 --> 02:45:03.096 I have decided to put myself up for a 02:45:03.120 --> 02:45:04.536 few more. It's not because I was lazy 02:45:04.560 --> 02:45:06.616 for the last five months but that was my 02:45:06.640 --> 02:45:08.696 rationale around that. 02:45:08.720 --> 02:45:11.720 I'll move along to um 02:45:13.200 --> 02:45:15.576 I will just say that some of the changes 02:45:15.600 --> 02:45:17.496 allow for that to happen. So to 02:45:17.520 --> 02:45:19.255 increase the amount of representatives 02:45:19.279 --> 02:45:22.279 from council from in terms of council 02:45:22.319 --> 02:45:25.096 laws is being approved or being asked 02:45:25.120 --> 02:45:27.255 to be approved by the council group here 02:45:27.279 --> 02:45:29.976 tonight. so I do thank those 02:45:30.000 --> 02:45:33.000 adjustments in there. Finally is that 02:45:33.840 --> 02:45:36.136 point six which is the establishment 02:45:36.160 --> 02:45:38.536 of a community consultation working 02:45:38.560 --> 02:45:40.696 group to report back to council. There 02:45:40.720 --> 02:45:42.295 was a bit of reference made to it in the 02:45:42.319 --> 02:45:44.056 last item. It's not just the last item. 02:45:44.080 --> 02:45:47.080 I just think that 02:45:47.680 --> 02:45:49.335 I was told when I first joined council 02:45:49.359 --> 02:45:51.415 which is nine years ago nearly that we 02:45:51.439 --> 02:45:53.176 don't need to do community consultation. 02:45:53.200 --> 02:45:55.896 We do one every four years. Now, I 02:45:55.920 --> 02:45:58.056 couldn't be more opposed to that type of 02:45:58.080 --> 02:46:01.080 sentiment ever because it's it's a one 02:46:02.000 --> 02:46:04.936 snapshot in history and you got has no 02:46:04.960 --> 02:46:06.136 context to what you're going to be doing 02:46:06.160 --> 02:46:08.295 over the next four years. So, that's the 02:46:08.319 --> 02:46:11.096 furthest away that I would be. And being 02:46:11.120 --> 02:46:12.616 on the other extreme is the only thing 02:46:12.640 --> 02:46:13.896 you have to do is just whatever the 02:46:13.920 --> 02:46:15.816 community consultation says, you just 02:46:15.840 --> 02:46:17.656 approve it, which leaves no room for 02:46:17.680 --> 02:46:19.016 leadership whatsoever, which is what 02:46:19.040 --> 02:46:21.096 we're here for. And a balance between 02:46:21.120 --> 02:46:23.335 those two positions is important. Now, 02:46:23.359 --> 02:46:24.936 sometimes, and I think this council does 02:46:24.960 --> 02:46:27.816 it exceptionally well, um we consult 02:46:27.840 --> 02:46:30.840 really good, but sometimes we just don't 02:46:31.359 --> 02:46:33.976 necesSaabily know what we don't know. And 02:46:34.000 --> 02:46:36.536 our best asset is actually our community 02:46:36.560 --> 02:46:39.560 and working with them to find out what 02:46:40.160 --> 02:46:42.216 we don't know, to understand what we do, 02:46:42.240 --> 02:46:44.616 fantastic, and double down on it, but 02:46:44.640 --> 02:46:47.640 then also implement things that we could 02:46:48.720 --> 02:46:51.176 do going forward. Now the working group 02:46:51.200 --> 02:46:53.415 I hope will discover that I'm agnostic 02:46:53.439 --> 02:46:55.335 to what that will spit out from 02:46:55.359 --> 02:46:56.856 establishing a committee on it or not 02:46:56.880 --> 02:46:59.096 having a committee on it from doing 02:46:59.120 --> 02:47:00.776 things on a more paper base and letter 02:47:00.800 --> 02:47:03.800 based to going harder on technology 02:47:03.840 --> 02:47:05.415 because that's the best way and 02:47:05.439 --> 02:47:06.776 efficient way to do it. It's not 02:47:06.800 --> 02:47:08.375 important to me what the outcomes are. 02:47:08.399 --> 02:47:11.176 What is important is that we identify 02:47:11.200 --> 02:47:13.176 where things go wrong. And I point to a 02:47:13.200 --> 02:47:14.936 local law as an example. Not because I 02:47:14.960 --> 02:47:16.616 think that we necesSaabily anything 02:47:16.640 --> 02:47:19.176 poorly, but because sometimes things can 02:47:19.200 --> 02:47:20.536 get its own legs. And if we can get 02:47:20.560 --> 02:47:23.096 learnings from this and talk to our 02:47:23.120 --> 02:47:25.656 community, understand from our community 02:47:25.680 --> 02:47:27.496 where things have gone wrong with our 02:47:27.520 --> 02:47:29.816 communication with them and consulting, 02:47:29.840 --> 02:47:31.176 we can improve ourselves. So that's what 02:47:31.200 --> 02:47:33.656 I'm hoping to achieve there. 02:47:33.680 --> 02:47:35.176 I think I've covered everything else in 02:47:35.200 --> 02:47:37.096 terms of what the report is offering us 02:47:37.120 --> 02:47:40.120 tonight and I hope my colleagues will 02:47:40.399 --> 02:47:43.399 endorse this item. Thank you. Thank 02:47:43.600 --> 02:47:44.856 you, councelor Ananosopouloolis. 02:47:44.880 --> 02:47:47.255 Councelor O'Donnell, 02:47:47.279 --> 02:47:49.016 is there anyone wanting to speak against 02:47:49.040 --> 02:47:52.040 the motion? 02:47:54.080 --> 02:47:56.856 Then I will put that to the vote. All 02:47:56.880 --> 02:47:59.880 those in favor 02:48:00.319 --> 02:48:02.136 that is councelor Agatan, councelor 02:48:02.160 --> 02:48:04.216 O'Donnell, councelor Law, councelor 02:48:04.240 --> 02:48:05.816 Thanosopoulos, councelor Ashworth, 02:48:05.840 --> 02:48:08.056 Collett, councelor Reanus, councelor 02:48:08.080 --> 02:48:10.936 Howe, councelor Saab and myself. All those 02:48:10.960 --> 02:48:13.960 against and abstaining council white and 02:48:14.720 --> 02:48:17.720 I declare that carried. 02:48:18.319 --> 02:48:20.856 Item 11.1 the lease of the Parkdale 02:48:20.880 --> 02:48:23.255 Beach Cafe and Chaos. Do I have a 02:48:23.279 --> 02:48:25.896 motion? Councelor Law, the officer 02:48:25.920 --> 02:48:27.816 recommendation and a second council 02:48:27.840 --> 02:48:30.375 Agatan. 02:48:30.399 --> 02:48:33.096 Thank you. Council Law 02:48:33.120 --> 02:48:35.016 reserve. Any councilors wishing to speak 02:48:35.040 --> 02:48:37.976 to the motion? 02:48:38.000 --> 02:48:40.136 I will put that to a vote. All those in 02:48:40.160 --> 02:48:43.160 favor 02:48:43.279 --> 02:48:46.279 that is carried unanimously. Thank you. 02:48:47.840 --> 02:48:50.536 item 11.2 the proposed lease at 10 02:48:50.560 --> 02:48:52.375 Bindesy street men councelor 02:48:52.399 --> 02:48:55.399 thanosopouloolis with the removal of 4. 02:48:57.040 --> 02:48:57.576 Correct. 02:48:57.600 --> 02:49:00.600 Thank you. Just give me one second. 02:49:06.880 --> 02:49:08.455 Do I have a seconder for the motion with 02:49:08.479 --> 02:49:10.936 the removal of point4? 02:49:10.960 --> 02:49:11.496 Sorry. 02:49:11.520 --> 02:49:13.976 So point4 in the agenda reads, authorize 02:49:14.000 --> 02:49:16.056 the manager of property services or his 02:49:16.080 --> 02:49:18.056 delegate to grant a lease to the 02:49:18.080 --> 02:49:19.976 prospective tenant on the advertised 02:49:20.000 --> 02:49:22.136 terms in the event that there are no 02:49:22.160 --> 02:49:23.736 submissions. 02:49:23.760 --> 02:49:25.335 So essentially what that means is the 02:49:25.359 --> 02:49:27.576 report would come back to council 02:49:27.600 --> 02:49:28.856 regardless of whether there were 02:49:28.880 --> 02:49:30.936 submissions or no submissions for 02:49:30.960 --> 02:49:32.375 council to then make a subsequent 02:49:32.399 --> 02:49:33.255 decision. 02:49:33.279 --> 02:49:34.696 Do we're not authorizing a future 02:49:34.720 --> 02:49:37.415 decision in this motion. 02:49:37.439 --> 02:49:39.176 Councelor Ashworth Collett seconding. 02:49:39.200 --> 02:49:41.096 Thank you. Councelor Fanosopoulos, do 02:49:41.120 --> 02:49:43.255 you wish to speak to the motion? 02:49:43.279 --> 02:49:45.496 Only on the part that we're removing 02:49:45.520 --> 02:49:47.976 councilors may have received. and I have 02:49:48.000 --> 02:49:51.000 communication from people around 02:49:51.439 --> 02:49:53.496 this area that might be impacted by what 02:49:53.520 --> 02:49:56.520 we're doing here. there is the um 02:49:56.640 --> 02:49:58.776 section 223 committee and hearing 02:49:58.800 --> 02:50:00.455 submissions. I'm sure that that might 02:50:00.479 --> 02:50:03.479 actually receive a submission, I guess. 02:50:03.920 --> 02:50:06.056 Um and by removing number four, as the 02:50:06.080 --> 02:50:07.496 mayor's already indicated, that means 02:50:07.520 --> 02:50:09.016 that it will come back to us and even if 02:50:09.040 --> 02:50:10.455 it we don't get a submission through 02:50:10.479 --> 02:50:12.776 that process, you'll still come back to 02:50:12.800 --> 02:50:15.576 us for a decision. So it does give 02:50:15.600 --> 02:50:17.976 all parties that may be interested in 02:50:18.000 --> 02:50:20.056 this or affected an opportunity to 02:50:20.080 --> 02:50:22.936 provide feedback to council. 02:50:22.960 --> 02:50:25.255 Thank you councelor Athanosopoulos. 02:50:25.279 --> 02:50:27.576 council ash collect reserve any other 02:50:27.600 --> 02:50:30.600 councilors on this matter 02:50:31.359 --> 02:50:32.856 there being none I will put that to the 02:50:32.880 --> 02:50:35.656 vote. All those in favor 02:50:35.680 --> 02:50:38.680 that is carried unanimously. Thank you. 02:50:40.000 --> 02:50:42.536 and we'll move to item 12.1 which is the 02:50:42.560 --> 02:50:44.776 notice of motion on the Chelsea shopping 02:50:44.800 --> 02:50:47.800 strip improvements with 02:50:48.399 --> 02:50:49.976 leave of council. I'll move that from 02:50:50.000 --> 02:50:52.936 the chair. Do I have a seconder? Council 02:50:52.960 --> 02:50:55.960 Agatan. Thank you. 02:50:57.120 --> 02:51:00.120 Just bear with me just a moment. 02:51:02.560 --> 02:51:04.616 So that's moved council Oxley. So thank 02:51:04.640 --> 02:51:06.216 you 02:51:06.240 --> 02:51:07.976 just to be really brief to this one. 02:51:08.000 --> 02:51:11.000 This is just asking for a report um to 02:51:12.000 --> 02:51:14.696 be received in September of 2025 and I 02:51:14.720 --> 02:51:17.096 have spoken with officers and they've 02:51:17.120 --> 02:51:18.856 advised that that would be possible. 02:51:18.880 --> 02:51:20.136 Wouldn't necesSaabily put too much 02:51:20.160 --> 02:51:21.736 pressure in order to deliver that 02:51:21.760 --> 02:51:23.976 report. Um this is not only to make sure 02:51:24.000 --> 02:51:25.656 that we are obviously delivering on some 02:51:25.680 --> 02:51:27.496 of those improvements, but to also 02:51:27.520 --> 02:51:29.415 communicate with the community on what 02:51:29.439 --> 02:51:31.656 we are doing in Chelsea. Um Chelsea's 02:51:31.680 --> 02:51:34.680 been a long long burn project um in 02:51:35.760 --> 02:51:37.176 making sure that we're able to make some 02:51:37.200 --> 02:51:38.776 improvements in a pretty rundown 02:51:38.800 --> 02:51:40.616 shopping strip that certainly needs some 02:51:40.640 --> 02:51:42.455 love. I've said this on many many 02:51:42.479 --> 02:51:44.856 occasions um but we do need to do some 02:51:44.880 --> 02:51:47.496 immediate things. There are obviously 02:51:47.520 --> 02:51:49.496 longerterm plans in place of what we 02:51:49.520 --> 02:51:51.255 would be looking to achieve in Chel in 02:51:51.279 --> 02:51:53.415 Chelsea. um including some consultation 02:51:53.439 --> 02:51:56.375 on the Chelsea structure plan that after 02:51:56.399 --> 02:51:58.936 some delays due to various reasons um 02:51:58.960 --> 02:52:01.096 probably needs to be rekindled, but we 02:52:01.120 --> 02:52:02.536 do need to make sure that we are doing 02:52:02.560 --> 02:52:04.216 those smaller improvements to improve 02:52:04.240 --> 02:52:05.656 that shopping center and the 02:52:05.680 --> 02:52:07.255 beautifification works that would need 02:52:07.279 --> 02:52:09.816 done in the short term. Um and this is 02:52:09.840 --> 02:52:12.056 just looking at that report to see what 02:52:12.080 --> 02:52:13.896 can be done and what we might be able to 02:52:13.920 --> 02:52:16.920 deliver in the medium and longer term. 02:52:17.200 --> 02:52:18.936 Council Agatan, do you wish to speak to 02:52:18.960 --> 02:52:20.936 the motion? Any other councilors wish to 02:52:20.960 --> 02:52:23.096 speak to this motion? 02:52:23.120 --> 02:52:26.120 Council law. 02:52:27.520 --> 02:52:28.936 Thank you, Mayor. through you. Just 02:52:28.960 --> 02:52:31.816 have a question to Mr. Goodman. Um do we 02:52:31.840 --> 02:52:33.656 have a policy or process for triaging 02:52:33.680 --> 02:52:35.415 our shopping center precincts for 02:52:35.439 --> 02:52:37.496 improvements? 02:52:37.520 --> 02:52:40.136 Mr. Goodman. 02:52:40.160 --> 02:52:41.896 through you, Madame Mayor, to 02:52:41.920 --> 02:52:44.920 councelor Law. We do um we have a a 02:52:45.840 --> 02:52:48.840 process of evaluating our I think it's 02:52:48.960 --> 02:52:51.016 46, please don't quote me on that, 02:52:51.040 --> 02:52:53.415 shopping centers are in the city of 02:52:53.439 --> 02:52:56.439 Kingston and prioritizing 02:52:56.560 --> 02:52:58.056 um 02:52:58.080 --> 02:53:00.056 when there needs to be upgrades for 02:53:00.080 --> 02:53:01.576 those shopping centers and those 02:53:01.600 --> 02:53:04.375 upgrades can range from major capital 02:53:04.399 --> 02:53:06.536 works projects which Miss Krell's 02:53:06.560 --> 02:53:09.560 division um deliver like in Parkdale is 02:53:09.920 --> 02:53:11.656 probably a good practical example that's 02:53:11.680 --> 02:53:13.176 occurring over the the next couple of 02:53:13.200 --> 02:53:16.200 years to more minor upgrades um that 02:53:16.720 --> 02:53:19.335 might might be necesSaaby and they're 02:53:19.359 --> 02:53:22.359 informed um by usually a conditions 02:53:22.399 --> 02:53:24.295 audit of the shopping center. So the 02:53:24.319 --> 02:53:26.536 state of the existing footpaths or 02:53:26.560 --> 02:53:28.455 furniture or the like in the shopping 02:53:28.479 --> 02:53:31.479 center. So yes, we do have um an annual 02:53:31.680 --> 02:53:34.295 capital allocation for the small centers 02:53:34.319 --> 02:53:37.176 um and we do have a rolling program um 02:53:37.200 --> 02:53:39.896 for all of our shopping centers. Thank 02:53:39.920 --> 02:53:41.576 you. 02:53:41.600 --> 02:53:43.415 Thank you. 02:53:43.439 --> 02:53:44.696 Are there any other councilors wishing 02:53:44.720 --> 02:53:47.720 to speak to the motion? Councelor Saab, 02:53:48.080 --> 02:53:49.576 thank you. Again, just a question 02:53:49.600 --> 02:53:50.856 through you, mayor, to the relevant 02:53:50.880 --> 02:53:52.936 officer. Mr. Gman mentioned 02:53:52.960 --> 02:53:55.496 condition audits. Have we done condition 02:53:55.520 --> 02:53:58.520 audits on the Chelsea shopping strip? 02:53:58.800 --> 02:54:01.576 Mr. Goodman, 02:54:01.600 --> 02:54:04.600 where's that scroll? 02:54:06.319 --> 02:54:08.136 Maybe just if I can assist with what's 02:54:08.160 --> 02:54:10.455 in the guidance note. The guidance note 02:54:10.479 --> 02:54:13.479 provides some um advice to councils on 02:54:13.920 --> 02:54:16.056 some quick things that we could do and I 02:54:16.080 --> 02:54:18.696 think um Miss Krell's division have 02:54:18.720 --> 02:54:20.616 already done planting. I think as of 02:54:20.640 --> 02:54:23.176 last week one of the outcomes of the 02:54:23.200 --> 02:54:25.816 notice of motion was to go and do a 02:54:25.840 --> 02:54:28.375 range of um things on the footpath 02:54:28.399 --> 02:54:31.096 because the planting its condition was 02:54:31.120 --> 02:54:34.120 um degraded. Um but I think also the 02:54:35.040 --> 02:54:37.016 guidance note picks up some other things 02:54:37.040 --> 02:54:39.415 that um are possible within the shopping 02:54:39.439 --> 02:54:42.056 center around upgrades to some of the 02:54:42.080 --> 02:54:44.936 smaller levels of infrastructure. 02:54:44.960 --> 02:54:47.255 I'm not at liberty to talk in detail 02:54:47.279 --> 02:54:49.896 about pavement or other things tonight. 02:54:49.920 --> 02:54:52.375 It's probably a question I would need to 02:54:52.399 --> 02:54:55.399 take on those. 02:54:55.520 --> 02:54:57.736 Thank you. That's okay. Um just another 02:54:57.760 --> 02:54:59.576 question as well kind of building on the 02:54:59.600 --> 02:55:01.096 count question that council law 02:55:01.120 --> 02:55:02.696 mentioned 02:55:02.720 --> 02:55:05.720 in adopting this particular motion. 02:55:06.800 --> 02:55:09.800 Um does that preempt the prioritization 02:55:10.960 --> 02:55:12.776 work that is being done in the echo 02:55:12.800 --> 02:55:15.176 development strategy and shopping 02:55:15.200 --> 02:55:18.200 revitalization planning? 02:55:21.279 --> 02:55:23.816 Mr. Goodman. 02:55:23.840 --> 02:55:26.455 Um I I don't believe it does because of 02:55:26.479 --> 02:55:28.616 the nature of the works. I think if the 02:55:28.640 --> 02:55:31.640 council was to move into a position 02:55:32.080 --> 02:55:35.080 whereby it would um seek to prioritize 02:55:35.520 --> 02:55:37.415 the things that the guidance note talks 02:55:37.439 --> 02:55:40.439 about being more medium term like um the 02:55:41.520 --> 02:55:43.976 works in the strand for example which is 02:55:44.000 --> 02:55:45.896 really significant capital works and 02:55:45.920 --> 02:55:48.616 push that forward as a project that's 02:55:48.640 --> 02:55:50.056 now a priority. It would have that 02:55:50.080 --> 02:55:52.536 intention. The works that the guidance 02:55:52.560 --> 02:55:55.560 note talks about um are works that we've 02:55:56.160 --> 02:55:59.160 done recently in Chelenham. We we did a 02:55:59.760 --> 02:56:01.896 process Miss Krell's division led a 02:56:01.920 --> 02:56:04.295 process within the city works department 02:56:04.319 --> 02:56:07.176 of upgrading some works in Chelenham 02:56:07.200 --> 02:56:09.576 following engagement with the traders I 02:56:09.600 --> 02:56:11.896 think at the end of last year and prior 02:56:11.920 --> 02:56:14.136 to that um council s in your ward to 02:56:14.160 --> 02:56:16.616 Moravan we did some upgrade work. So I 02:56:16.640 --> 02:56:18.056 think the nature of the works in the 02:56:18.080 --> 02:56:20.375 guidance note looking at them quickly 02:56:20.399 --> 02:56:22.375 are pretty similar to those works which 02:56:22.399 --> 02:56:25.399 are generally accommodated um within the 02:56:25.439 --> 02:56:27.496 operational budgets that we have. The 02:56:27.520 --> 02:56:29.255 only exceptions to that are the two 02:56:29.279 --> 02:56:30.936 points at the bottom of the guidance 02:56:30.960 --> 02:56:32.936 note around the life saving club and the 02:56:32.960 --> 02:56:35.415 strand which would be more significant 02:56:35.439 --> 02:56:37.816 capital initiatives that need to find a 02:56:37.840 --> 02:56:40.776 home in the capital program. 02:56:40.800 --> 02:56:42.455 Thank you. Just a final question. Bless 02:56:42.479 --> 02:56:44.856 you. Bless you. Bless you. Um just a 02:56:44.880 --> 02:56:46.936 final question on that last point then 02:56:46.960 --> 02:56:49.656 through you mayor. Um again I believe to 02:56:49.680 --> 02:56:52.680 Mr. Goodman um specifically the actually 02:56:53.359 --> 02:56:55.656 it might be to Miss Crawl. Apologies but 02:56:55.680 --> 02:56:57.335 specifically the medium and 02:56:57.359 --> 02:56:59.415 longerterm components improvements that 02:56:59.439 --> 02:57:02.056 are part of this works. recognizing 02:57:02.080 --> 02:57:03.656 that it's a report that's coming back 02:57:03.680 --> 02:57:05.335 and council will then decide on those 02:57:05.359 --> 02:57:06.856 things 02:57:06.880 --> 02:57:09.496 again. Will that then preempt the 02:57:09.520 --> 02:57:11.816 planning work for other shopping strips 02:57:11.840 --> 02:57:13.415 that might need to see capital works 02:57:13.439 --> 02:57:15.335 improvements once we do that 02:57:15.359 --> 02:57:18.216 prioritization analysis in the echo 02:57:18.240 --> 02:57:20.536 development strategy? 02:57:20.560 --> 02:57:21.976 Oh, okay. Maybe it is 02:57:22.000 --> 02:57:24.455 that probably is Mr. Goodman. 02:57:24.479 --> 02:57:27.479 maybe to um manage expectations 02:57:28.319 --> 02:57:30.295 around the commitments in the economic 02:57:30.319 --> 02:57:31.896 development strategy and the capital 02:57:31.920 --> 02:57:33.816 works program around shopping center 02:57:33.840 --> 02:57:36.840 upgrades. Um, the council's recently 02:57:37.040 --> 02:57:38.536 done some minor shopping center 02:57:38.560 --> 02:57:40.375 upgrades, but the the major shopping 02:57:40.399 --> 02:57:43.096 center upgrade it's is focusing on 02:57:43.120 --> 02:57:45.255 currently and Miss Croll's division is 02:57:45.279 --> 02:57:48.279 building it is in Edith. And the other 02:57:49.200 --> 02:57:51.415 major shopping center works that are in 02:57:51.439 --> 02:57:53.335 our program 02:57:53.359 --> 02:57:56.359 um planning this year, I think, and 02:57:56.479 --> 02:57:59.335 commencing the following financial year 02:57:59.359 --> 02:58:02.359 is in Parkdale. So they're the committed 02:58:02.800 --> 02:58:04.936 major pro projects in our shopping 02:58:04.960 --> 02:58:07.896 center program at the moment that align 02:58:07.920 --> 02:58:09.656 with our economic development strategy 02:58:09.680 --> 02:58:11.736 actions. 02:58:11.760 --> 02:58:14.056 Can I speak to this now? May I'm 02:58:14.080 --> 02:58:16.216 supportive of this motion. Um now having 02:58:16.240 --> 02:58:18.216 that clarity just to understand because 02:58:18.240 --> 02:58:20.616 there is a needs analysis that needs 02:58:20.640 --> 02:58:22.056 to be done to make sure that we are 02:58:22.080 --> 02:58:25.080 being a credible um with the asset life 02:58:25.279 --> 02:58:27.255 of all of the different elements that 02:58:27.279 --> 02:58:29.896 are on our shopping strips. I think 02:58:29.920 --> 02:58:31.576 the guidance note was really clear on 02:58:31.600 --> 02:58:34.056 the small sorry I think they're called 02:58:34.080 --> 02:58:35.896 short and medium-term improvements. I 02:58:35.920 --> 02:58:37.496 think those are necesSaaby and we can do 02:58:37.520 --> 02:58:38.776 seems like we're already actioning some 02:58:38.800 --> 02:58:41.096 of them. So I support that component. My 02:58:41.120 --> 02:58:42.696 hesitancy was on the longer term 02:58:42.720 --> 02:58:44.776 improvements understanding that we do 02:58:44.800 --> 02:58:46.375 have an econ economic development 02:58:46.399 --> 02:58:48.136 strategy that is coming. and there's 02:58:48.160 --> 02:58:50.375 been a real interest um in this around 02:58:50.399 --> 02:58:52.776 this table by councilors on a shopping 02:58:52.800 --> 02:58:55.096 strip revitalization plan and strategy. 02:58:55.120 --> 02:58:58.120 So, making sure that that is um going to 02:58:58.560 --> 02:59:00.295 continue to occur and we know where we 02:59:00.319 --> 02:59:02.216 need those shopping strip improvements. 02:59:02.240 --> 02:59:05.240 Um I will just again just pedanticness 02:59:05.439 --> 02:59:08.056 with the words. I don't know if it needs 02:59:08.080 --> 02:59:11.016 to be an urgent report. Um I think like 02:59:11.040 --> 02:59:13.736 it could just be a report. Um and that 02:59:13.760 --> 02:59:15.255 is a common theme and the other motions 02:59:15.279 --> 02:59:16.536 that I've noticed this evening. I think 02:59:16.560 --> 02:59:17.736 we just need to be really clear with 02:59:17.760 --> 02:59:19.896 when we are voting on certain things. 02:59:19.920 --> 02:59:21.496 When we vote on them, we're agreeing to 02:59:21.520 --> 02:59:23.736 those notions. Um, I'm not even I'm not 02:59:23.760 --> 02:59:25.736 going to put forward any amendments, but 02:59:25.760 --> 02:59:27.656 I just going forward, if we can be 02:59:27.680 --> 02:59:29.016 really clear with our wording when we 02:59:29.040 --> 02:59:31.576 submit our notice of motions. Um, I do 02:59:31.600 --> 02:59:34.600 think generally and broadly, Chelsea is 02:59:34.640 --> 02:59:36.616 in need, especially that shopping strip, 02:59:36.640 --> 02:59:37.816 it's in need of significant 02:59:37.840 --> 02:59:39.656 improvements. I I commend putting this 02:59:39.680 --> 02:59:41.736 motion forward, mayor. I think it's 02:59:41.760 --> 02:59:43.255 really, really important and needs to be 02:59:43.279 --> 02:59:45.736 done. Um, also recognizing that the 02:59:45.760 --> 02:59:48.455 strand component of this motion is also 02:59:48.479 --> 02:59:50.536 really really important and it should be 02:59:50.560 --> 02:59:53.415 and has the potential to be a key 02:59:53.439 --> 02:59:56.375 community gathering place. Um, so I will 02:59:56.399 --> 02:59:58.455 support this motion this evening. I just 02:59:58.479 --> 02:59:59.976 wanted to make sure that I was clear on 03:00:00.000 --> 03:00:02.375 what it is that we were voting on and 03:00:02.399 --> 03:00:04.056 when that economic development strategy 03:00:04.080 --> 03:00:05.415 comes back cuz I am looking forward to 03:00:05.439 --> 03:00:07.896 that strategy. So thank you. 03:00:07.920 --> 03:00:09.415 Thank you councelor Saab. Any other 03:00:09.439 --> 03:00:12.439 councilors? Councelor Thanosopoulos. 03:00:12.960 --> 03:00:14.616 Yeah, I'll try to be as quick as I 03:00:14.640 --> 03:00:17.640 possibly can. Um, 03:00:18.720 --> 03:00:20.936 there'll be a notice of motion I'm 03:00:20.960 --> 03:00:22.455 putting up later and the only reason I'm 03:00:22.479 --> 03:00:25.479 referring to it is because it will 03:00:26.080 --> 03:00:28.375 make some sense on to why I might um 03:00:28.399 --> 03:00:31.399 abstain on some things and that is on 03:00:31.439 --> 03:00:33.976 understanding the strategic context of 03:00:34.000 --> 03:00:36.136 something for me is going to be the 03:00:36.160 --> 03:00:38.536 important part on whether I support some 03:00:38.560 --> 03:00:40.536 individual projects. I think the 03:00:40.560 --> 03:00:43.560 critical not one individual project can 03:00:44.960 --> 03:00:47.960 ultimately kill council's um you know 03:00:48.960 --> 03:00:51.255 long-term budget for example but an 03:00:51.279 --> 03:00:54.279 accumulation of these does have an 03:00:54.399 --> 03:00:57.096 impact and can affect it. That's my 03:00:57.120 --> 03:00:59.736 concern. I'm not saying that any any 03:00:59.760 --> 03:01:01.896 of this doesn't have merit. I think 03:01:01.920 --> 03:01:03.976 councelor SA's just said that it has 03:01:04.000 --> 03:01:05.335 merit. Obviously, the mayor's moved 03:01:05.359 --> 03:01:08.359 something and therefore Mayor 03:01:08.720 --> 03:01:11.656 Oxley thinks it has merit too, but where 03:01:11.680 --> 03:01:14.455 I can see the strategic merit for 03:01:14.479 --> 03:01:16.536 something is where I'm going to 03:01:16.560 --> 03:01:18.295 support it. So, that's why I'll probably 03:01:18.319 --> 03:01:21.096 move I'll probably choose to go with an 03:01:21.120 --> 03:01:24.120 abstension on some things if um I don't 03:01:24.240 --> 03:01:25.656 see that clarity. So, I just wanted to 03:01:25.680 --> 03:01:28.056 have that clarity explained. I'll only 03:01:28.080 --> 03:01:30.536 do it once. so if people see that on 03:01:30.560 --> 03:01:32.776 notices of motion. 03:01:32.800 --> 03:01:34.616 Thank you, councelor Thanos. Any other 03:01:34.640 --> 03:01:37.640 counselors on this motion? 03:01:38.479 --> 03:01:40.056 Before I put it to the vote, I will just 03:01:40.080 --> 03:01:42.856 close with saying this has been a 03:01:42.880 --> 03:01:45.880 long-term project and something that 03:01:46.479 --> 03:01:48.375 the last council wasn't particularly 03:01:48.399 --> 03:01:50.295 keen on prioritizing, and that's 03:01:50.319 --> 03:01:53.096 perfectly fine. Um, it is something that 03:01:53.120 --> 03:01:55.976 the community has been asking for for a 03:01:56.000 --> 03:01:59.000 very, very, very long time. and it is 03:02:00.880 --> 03:02:03.880 one of the major activity centers south 03:02:03.920 --> 03:02:06.776 of Morial Creek and in the southern part 03:02:06.800 --> 03:02:08.696 of our municipality 03:02:08.720 --> 03:02:11.720 that has received very little funding 03:02:12.240 --> 03:02:15.240 that has no structure plan for it as 03:02:16.080 --> 03:02:18.536 yet, but that has no structure plan for 03:02:18.560 --> 03:02:21.560 it and that is becoming more rundown 03:02:22.720 --> 03:02:25.176 each month that goes by. 03:02:25.200 --> 03:02:27.816 And that is something we have to work on 03:02:27.840 --> 03:02:30.840 that last councils didn't prioritize 03:02:31.359 --> 03:02:32.936 that I would ideally like this council 03:02:32.960 --> 03:02:34.776 to prioritize. 03:02:34.800 --> 03:02:35.976 But the way that I've done that is 03:02:36.000 --> 03:02:39.000 asking for a report so that that 03:02:39.040 --> 03:02:40.776 information can be received by council 03:02:40.800 --> 03:02:41.896 cuz it's something that I'm very 03:02:41.920 --> 03:02:43.335 familiar with. I've been advocating for 03:02:43.359 --> 03:02:45.576 this for a very long time. But to make 03:02:45.600 --> 03:02:47.656 sure that this council is brought up to 03:02:47.680 --> 03:02:49.096 speed on where we are at with that 03:02:49.120 --> 03:02:51.335 particular project and whether or not it 03:02:51.359 --> 03:02:52.536 is something that this council would 03:02:52.560 --> 03:02:54.776 like to prioritize. And I will leave it 03:02:54.800 --> 03:02:57.496 at that. I will put that to the vote. 03:02:57.520 --> 03:03:00.455 All those in favor 03:03:00.479 --> 03:03:02.616 that is council Agatan, councelor White, 03:03:02.640 --> 03:03:04.455 councelor O'Donnell, councelor Law, 03:03:04.479 --> 03:03:05.896 councelor Ashworth, Collett, councelor 03:03:05.920 --> 03:03:08.295 Reanus, councelor Howe, Councelor Saab, 03:03:08.319 --> 03:03:10.776 and myself. All those against and 03:03:10.800 --> 03:03:13.176 abstaining, councelor Aanosopoulos, that 03:03:13.200 --> 03:03:15.816 is carried. can I get an extension 03:03:15.840 --> 03:03:17.816 to the meeting assuming we want to 03:03:17.840 --> 03:03:20.295 extend? Councelor Athanosopoulos. 03:03:20.319 --> 03:03:21.736 Yeah. procedural motion that we extend 03:03:21.760 --> 03:03:24.760 the meeting to 10:45 03:03:24.800 --> 03:03:26.616 11 11 p.m. 03:03:26.640 --> 03:03:28.216 Howe confident are you we can do it at 03:03:28.240 --> 03:03:30.696 10:45? 03:03:30.720 --> 03:03:33.720 All right. Extend the meeting till 11. 03:03:34.880 --> 03:03:37.880 a second, please. Council Saab. Thank 03:03:38.319 --> 03:03:39.816 you. 03:03:39.840 --> 03:03:42.840 All those in favor? 03:03:43.439 --> 03:03:46.056 Oh, okay. That is council Agatan, 03:03:46.080 --> 03:03:47.415 councelor O'Donnell, councelor 03:03:47.439 --> 03:03:49.976 Athanasopoulos. Sorry. Can we slow down 03:03:50.000 --> 03:03:53.000 and reread the last 03:03:54.319 --> 03:03:56.295 It's a time extension. 03:03:56.319 --> 03:03:59.016 Thank you. Yes. Extension of time till 03:03:59.040 --> 03:04:01.496 11:00. Thank you. All those in favor? 03:04:01.520 --> 03:04:03.415 Councelor Agatan, Councelor O'Donnell, 03:04:03.439 --> 03:04:05.255 Councelor Law, Councelor Athanosopoulos, 03:04:05.279 --> 03:04:06.776 Councelor Ashworth, Collett, Councelor 03:04:06.800 --> 03:04:09.800 Saab, and myself. All those against, 03:04:10.080 --> 03:04:12.056 Councelor White, Councelor Reanitas, 03:04:12.080 --> 03:04:14.375 Councelor Howe, and abstaining. That's 03:04:14.399 --> 03:04:17.399 carried. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, just 03:04:18.080 --> 03:04:19.736 checking. 03:04:19.760 --> 03:04:22.616 Okay. 12.2 03:04:22.640 --> 03:04:23.896 Bomb Beach Basketball Stadium. 03:04:23.920 --> 03:04:25.096 Councilor, Howe are you wanting to move 03:04:25.120 --> 03:04:26.056 this? 03:04:26.080 --> 03:04:27.415 Yes, as it appears. 03:04:27.439 --> 03:04:28.136 Yes, thank you. 03:04:28.160 --> 03:04:31.016 Thank you. A seconder. Councelor 03:04:31.040 --> 03:04:34.040 O'Donnell. Councelor Howe? 03:04:34.160 --> 03:04:35.816 As it appears. Thank you. 03:04:35.840 --> 03:04:38.696 Do you wish to speak to it? this is 03:04:38.720 --> 03:04:41.720 quite simply about trying to 03:04:42.240 --> 03:04:44.295 give children a local place to go and 03:04:44.319 --> 03:04:45.976 play basketball without having to jump 03:04:46.000 --> 03:04:48.536 in the car with mom and dad and drive to 03:04:48.560 --> 03:04:49.816 the temples that we're going to build 03:04:49.840 --> 03:04:51.496 around Hawthorn footy club for 03:04:51.520 --> 03:04:52.936 basketball. 03:04:52.960 --> 03:04:55.960 Thank you councel councelor O'Donnell. 03:04:59.920 --> 03:05:01.255 They won't have to drive too far. They 03:05:01.279 --> 03:05:03.335 do already have golf courses. Oh my 03:05:03.359 --> 03:05:05.496 gosh, I'm losing the plot completely. 03:05:05.520 --> 03:05:08.375 Freud and slip. They've got basketball 03:05:08.399 --> 03:05:11.399 courts already there. Um, but in saying 03:05:11.520 --> 03:05:13.576 that, they certainly need a bit of love 03:05:13.600 --> 03:05:15.576 and a facelift. So, I'm in support of 03:05:15.600 --> 03:05:16.375 this motion. 03:05:16.399 --> 03:05:17.656 Thank you, councelor O'Donnell. Any 03:05:17.680 --> 03:05:18.856 other councilors wishing to speak to 03:05:18.880 --> 03:05:21.880 this motion? Council Law. 03:05:25.840 --> 03:05:27.496 Thank you, Mayor. And three, you have a 03:05:27.520 --> 03:05:30.216 question to Miss Croll. is there 03:05:30.240 --> 03:05:31.976 any shared funding for the maintenance 03:05:32.000 --> 03:05:33.976 of the stadium? Are there any other 03:05:34.000 --> 03:05:36.056 clubs or organizations or sponsors who 03:05:36.080 --> 03:05:37.496 fund the stadium and is it included in 03:05:37.520 --> 03:05:39.816 the asset plan? 03:05:39.840 --> 03:05:42.840 Miss Cro, 03:05:43.040 --> 03:05:44.776 thank you. And through you, mayor, um 03:05:44.800 --> 03:05:46.696 the maintenance responsibilities between 03:05:46.720 --> 03:05:48.536 the club and council is defined in the 03:05:48.560 --> 03:05:50.776 league and that's what we do typically 03:05:50.800 --> 03:05:52.616 for all our um clubs and community 03:05:52.640 --> 03:05:54.455 facilities. 03:05:54.479 --> 03:05:56.295 Um I'm not sure what sponsorship that 03:05:56.319 --> 03:05:59.096 the club is receiving. Um I would need 03:05:59.120 --> 03:06:00.455 to take that on notice. We need to 03:06:00.479 --> 03:06:02.936 engage with the club and find that out. 03:06:02.960 --> 03:06:05.736 Um, in terms of asset management, all 03:06:05.760 --> 03:06:07.255 council buildings are included in our 03:06:07.279 --> 03:06:09.016 asset plan and we take conditional 03:06:09.040 --> 03:06:10.536 audits of all our buildings and they're 03:06:10.560 --> 03:06:12.216 all included in our renewal modeling of 03:06:12.240 --> 03:06:15.240 our assets. 03:06:21.359 --> 03:06:23.415 thank you. 03:06:23.439 --> 03:06:24.696 Am I able to speak to the motion? 03:06:24.720 --> 03:06:25.016 Correct. 03:06:25.040 --> 03:06:27.335 Yeah. Thank you. Sorry. just want to 03:06:27.359 --> 03:06:30.295 mention that the wording of the motion 03:06:30.319 --> 03:06:32.936 is framed as being urgent. Um requesting 03:06:32.960 --> 03:06:34.375 a report within six weeks. I do note 03:06:34.399 --> 03:06:36.056 that in the guidance notes by officers, 03:06:36.080 --> 03:06:37.415 it said that that would be that's 03:06:37.439 --> 03:06:39.176 feasible and that's possible. So just 03:06:39.200 --> 03:06:40.455 want to confirm when we're asking for 03:06:40.479 --> 03:06:42.455 reports with time frames that we are 03:06:42.479 --> 03:06:44.455 considerate of officer resources and 03:06:44.479 --> 03:06:46.936 capability um time constraints and cost 03:06:46.960 --> 03:06:48.936 because urgency can can warrant extra 03:06:48.960 --> 03:06:51.960 additional cost. invve investing in 03:06:52.720 --> 03:06:54.216 major sports field is a significant 03:06:54.240 --> 03:06:56.936 council decision and cost. Um and we 03:06:56.960 --> 03:06:58.616 have a responsibility to make sure we 03:06:58.640 --> 03:07:00.776 have a lens across those maintenance and 03:07:00.800 --> 03:07:03.800 and Howe the fa funds are allocated in 03:07:04.240 --> 03:07:05.816 terms of if we have other arrangements 03:07:05.840 --> 03:07:07.496 for funding to support or shared funding 03:07:07.520 --> 03:07:09.415 arrangements. So um I'll be looking 03:07:09.439 --> 03:07:11.496 forward to hearing um from from council 03:07:11.520 --> 03:07:12.936 officers if there are any shared funding 03:07:12.960 --> 03:07:15.096 arrangements in terms of the 03:07:15.120 --> 03:07:18.120 maintenance of the building. Howeever 03:07:18.240 --> 03:07:19.816 understand completely that if there are 03:07:19.840 --> 03:07:21.255 minor improvements that can be made to 03:07:21.279 --> 03:07:23.096 the facility and that this is requesting 03:07:23.120 --> 03:07:24.295 a report. 03:07:24.319 --> 03:07:25.496 Thank you. 03:07:25.520 --> 03:07:26.856 Thank you council law. Any other 03:07:26.880 --> 03:07:29.255 counselors? 03:07:29.279 --> 03:07:30.936 Councelor sub 03:07:30.960 --> 03:07:33.335 just a question through I believe to I'm 03:07:33.359 --> 03:07:34.455 not going to guess this time just 03:07:34.479 --> 03:07:37.479 through you may um 03:07:38.560 --> 03:07:41.176 once this is adopted if it is adopted I 03:07:41.200 --> 03:07:44.200 should say um 03:07:44.240 --> 03:07:46.776 the improvements are they being proposed 03:07:46.800 --> 03:07:49.800 for this financial year 03:07:52.880 --> 03:07:55.880 Miss Crawl 03:07:56.800 --> 03:07:59.576 I'm not sure if I should and I'll stand 03:07:59.600 --> 03:08:01.335 with you. We'll 03:08:01.359 --> 03:08:02.455 face each other. 03:08:02.479 --> 03:08:05.479 Um there as noted in the guidance note, 03:08:05.760 --> 03:08:07.255 there are short-term improvements 03:08:07.279 --> 03:08:09.096 budgeted to be undertaken this year. 03:08:09.120 --> 03:08:10.776 That includes resurfacing of the courts 03:08:10.800 --> 03:08:13.576 and landmarking to enable senior sport 03:08:13.600 --> 03:08:15.976 and senior games to be played in those 03:08:16.000 --> 03:08:18.616 facilities. Um refurbishment of the 03:08:18.640 --> 03:08:20.616 backboards are is included in this 03:08:20.640 --> 03:08:22.856 year's budget as well. Also as mentioned 03:08:22.880 --> 03:08:24.696 the guidance note we undertaking a 03:08:24.720 --> 03:08:27.255 structural assessment and based on what 03:08:27.279 --> 03:08:30.279 that assessment um sHowes we will 03:08:30.800 --> 03:08:32.776 identify any works required and we will 03:08:32.800 --> 03:08:34.375 bring a report back to council which 03:08:34.399 --> 03:08:37.096 will consider costs as well as 03:08:37.120 --> 03:08:39.096 prioritization with other facilities for 03:08:39.120 --> 03:08:42.120 works. 03:08:43.279 --> 03:08:45.896 Thank you. 03:08:45.920 --> 03:08:47.656 I guess just another question of clarity 03:08:47.680 --> 03:08:50.680 then if that's okay through you may um 03:08:52.560 --> 03:08:54.856 the report that comes back will it then 03:08:54.880 --> 03:08:56.936 be aligned with the basketball strategy 03:08:56.960 --> 03:08:59.816 that we are also in the process of 03:08:59.840 --> 03:09:02.216 developing to understand prioritization 03:09:02.240 --> 03:09:04.455 and needs analysis that was done in that 03:09:04.479 --> 03:09:06.536 strategy. And will this report then be 03:09:06.560 --> 03:09:07.736 aligned with Howe we do those 03:09:07.760 --> 03:09:09.496 refurbishments 03:09:09.520 --> 03:09:12.520 through our five-year plan? 03:09:15.279 --> 03:09:17.415 Thank you. Through you, mayor. Um yes is 03:09:17.439 --> 03:09:19.656 the answer. As you know, councelor um 03:09:19.680 --> 03:09:21.176 Saab, we are working through our indoor 03:09:21.200 --> 03:09:22.696 court strategy and looking at the need 03:09:22.720 --> 03:09:25.255 for indoor courts across Kingston and 03:09:25.279 --> 03:09:28.056 the refurbishment or prioritization of 03:09:28.080 --> 03:09:30.776 any works in in indoor courts will take 03:09:30.800 --> 03:09:33.800 into account that work. 03:09:35.279 --> 03:09:37.415 I'd like to speak if I can now. Thank 03:09:37.439 --> 03:09:40.375 you, M. So with again with that clarity 03:09:40.399 --> 03:09:41.656 now, I do feel a little bit more 03:09:41.680 --> 03:09:43.335 comfortable with this particular item. 03:09:43.359 --> 03:09:46.136 Initially I was hesitant again for 03:09:46.160 --> 03:09:47.976 predominantly the queries that um 03:09:48.000 --> 03:09:50.056 councelor Rothanosopouloolis had raised 03:09:50.080 --> 03:09:52.455 in that if we consistently are raising 03:09:52.479 --> 03:09:55.415 notice for additional capital works and 03:09:55.439 --> 03:09:56.936 additional projects and ideas and 03:09:56.960 --> 03:09:59.255 initiatives that are outside of the 03:09:59.279 --> 03:10:01.576 budget cycle which we just adopted but 03:10:01.600 --> 03:10:03.496 isn't actually a financially responsible 03:10:03.520 --> 03:10:04.455 thing to be doing. We should be 03:10:04.479 --> 03:10:05.816 referring them into the next budget 03:10:05.840 --> 03:10:07.816 cycle or we should be referring them um 03:10:07.840 --> 03:10:10.136 into consideration into maybe existing 03:10:10.160 --> 03:10:12.216 elements of work. I just think that if 03:10:12.240 --> 03:10:15.240 we are trying to save funds of 10% here 03:10:15.279 --> 03:10:18.056 or 50% there as as councelor white had 03:10:18.080 --> 03:10:20.216 mentioned it makes more sense for us 03:10:20.240 --> 03:10:22.455 to ensure that we are planning for these 03:10:22.479 --> 03:10:25.479 things in a 5 10 year cycle with that 03:10:25.520 --> 03:10:26.856 clarity understanding that there are 03:10:26.880 --> 03:10:28.936 refurbishment works that are already in 03:10:28.960 --> 03:10:31.496 the pipeline for this space um Howeever 03:10:31.520 --> 03:10:33.736 this report will most likely identify 03:10:33.760 --> 03:10:35.816 additional works that needs to be done 03:10:35.840 --> 03:10:37.576 I'm hoping that can be then considered 03:10:37.600 --> 03:10:39.415 into future budget cycles or at least be 03:10:39.439 --> 03:10:40.936 referred to the basketball strategy 03:10:40.960 --> 03:10:43.736 again which we are trying to develop um 03:10:43.760 --> 03:10:46.295 which will identify firstly where we 03:10:46.319 --> 03:10:48.536 need to be investing funds to ensure 03:10:48.560 --> 03:10:50.696 that the growing needs of basketballs 03:10:50.720 --> 03:10:53.176 met in the city but also so that the 03:10:53.200 --> 03:10:55.335 courts are actually meeting the current 03:10:55.359 --> 03:10:58.359 usage that they need to um so again now 03:10:59.520 --> 03:11:00.696 understanding that and having that 03:11:00.720 --> 03:11:02.136 clarity I will be supporting this 03:11:02.160 --> 03:11:04.295 particular item but again my hesitancy 03:11:04.319 --> 03:11:05.976 on this motion and other notices and 03:11:06.000 --> 03:11:06.776 motions that we're going to be 03:11:06.800 --> 03:11:08.216 discussing this evening and have been 03:11:08.240 --> 03:11:10.936 for the last little while is there is a 03:11:10.960 --> 03:11:12.696 a cycle and a process that we should be 03:11:12.720 --> 03:11:14.776 considering these things in and this 03:11:14.800 --> 03:11:17.800 seems like it is out of cycle. 03:11:18.160 --> 03:11:19.656 Thank you councelor Saab. Any other 03:11:19.680 --> 03:11:22.680 councilors on this matter? 03:11:23.600 --> 03:11:25.896 Before I ask councelor Howe to close, 03:11:25.920 --> 03:11:27.816 just given that this was the motion 03:11:27.840 --> 03:11:30.840 that councelor Howe and I had co-signed 03:11:30.880 --> 03:11:33.096 um as it impacts significantly both our 03:11:33.120 --> 03:11:36.120 wards and all of Kingston really with 03:11:36.560 --> 03:11:38.776 basketballers that play here under 03:11:38.800 --> 03:11:40.856 Chelsea Basketball Association. To 03:11:40.880 --> 03:11:42.936 respond to some of the comments um and 03:11:42.960 --> 03:11:44.936 this is something that I heard a lot of 03:11:44.960 --> 03:11:47.960 in the last council um and that is that 03:11:48.319 --> 03:11:50.375 things come outside a process. So I 03:11:50.399 --> 03:11:52.455 think the reality is here that as a 03:11:52.479 --> 03:11:54.696 council we need to be responsive to the 03:11:54.720 --> 03:11:57.255 needs of the community. Even if that 03:11:57.279 --> 03:12:00.279 falls outside our usual budgeting cycle 03:12:00.479 --> 03:12:02.455 and that's not to say we go ahead and we 03:12:02.479 --> 03:12:04.136 say yes the community's asked for 03:12:04.160 --> 03:12:06.056 something let's go and do it and spend 03:12:06.080 --> 03:12:07.976 millions of dollars doing it. That's not 03:12:08.000 --> 03:12:10.536 what this motion is asking for. It is 03:12:10.560 --> 03:12:12.536 asking for an audit to be undertaken 03:12:12.560 --> 03:12:14.216 that in reality should have been 03:12:14.240 --> 03:12:15.816 undertaken four years ago when it was 03:12:15.840 --> 03:12:18.840 first raised. The problem that we get 03:12:18.880 --> 03:12:21.880 stuck in as a council and it's a 03:12:22.160 --> 03:12:25.160 positive and a negative is that we say 03:12:25.760 --> 03:12:27.816 we're working on this strategy so let's 03:12:27.840 --> 03:12:30.536 not do anything in the meantime. We got 03:12:30.560 --> 03:12:32.375 a strategy coming and we got to make 03:12:32.399 --> 03:12:33.976 sure it fits within the strategy. And 03:12:34.000 --> 03:12:35.736 there's nothing wrong with that. But 03:12:35.760 --> 03:12:38.136 what it means is that when we have so 03:12:38.160 --> 03:12:39.816 many strategies we're undertaking, when 03:12:39.840 --> 03:12:41.255 we have so many things that the 03:12:41.279 --> 03:12:44.279 organization is doing, we get stuck with 03:12:44.319 --> 03:12:46.856 the same response of well, let's just 03:12:46.880 --> 03:12:49.496 wait until we've got the strategy and it 03:12:49.520 --> 03:12:52.136 means we do nothing. And that is what 03:12:52.160 --> 03:12:54.455 led to in the first council that I sat 03:12:54.479 --> 03:12:56.136 on 03:12:56.160 --> 03:12:59.160 us having to deal with such a huge asset 03:12:59.359 --> 03:13:01.415 renewal gap 03:13:01.439 --> 03:13:03.736 because we didn't look after the assets 03:13:03.760 --> 03:13:06.760 we had. So there have been problems that 03:13:07.600 --> 03:13:09.415 has have arisen with playgrounds and 03:13:09.439 --> 03:13:10.696 things like that where we haven't 03:13:10.720 --> 03:13:13.415 maintained them. This is about 03:13:13.439 --> 03:13:15.415 maintenance but it's also about bringing 03:13:15.439 --> 03:13:17.415 them up to standard. when we've invested 03:13:17.439 --> 03:13:19.896 in new facilities but have not invested 03:13:19.920 --> 03:13:22.920 in the facilities that we own 03:13:23.520 --> 03:13:25.736 for our local community. And that's the 03:13:25.760 --> 03:13:27.415 reality of this motion. We're not saying 03:13:27.439 --> 03:13:29.736 go and spend the money at this point, 03:13:29.760 --> 03:13:31.415 but from the conversations that I've had 03:13:31.439 --> 03:13:33.816 over a number of years, I don't want us 03:13:33.840 --> 03:13:35.335 to get to the point where we're saying 03:13:35.359 --> 03:13:37.255 we're going to go and do some of these 03:13:37.279 --> 03:13:40.279 works, but not all of these works. or 03:13:40.319 --> 03:13:41.816 we're going to go and do some of these 03:13:41.840 --> 03:13:43.496 works, but the reality is we could have 03:13:43.520 --> 03:13:45.576 spent a little bit more to achieve a 03:13:45.600 --> 03:13:48.136 full refurb. 03:13:48.160 --> 03:13:49.896 And that's what I'd like to assess 03:13:49.920 --> 03:13:51.656 before we actually go and do just a 03:13:51.680 --> 03:13:53.496 little bit here and a little bit there 03:13:53.520 --> 03:13:55.656 because we saw that happen with Bomb 03:13:55.680 --> 03:13:57.335 Beach Baseball where we've just gone 03:13:57.359 --> 03:14:00.359 through an insurance claim after a fire 03:14:00.800 --> 03:14:02.295 where perhaps we should have assessed 03:14:02.319 --> 03:14:05.319 what the need was for a full scale 03:14:06.560 --> 03:14:08.375 change in that area. Whether that be 03:14:08.399 --> 03:14:11.016 combining facilities, whether that be a 03:14:11.040 --> 03:14:13.096 full revamp of those facilities rather 03:14:13.120 --> 03:14:14.696 than just addressing the changes that 03:14:14.720 --> 03:14:17.176 needed to be made. I'm not criticizing 03:14:17.200 --> 03:14:19.335 that decision, but I think we need to 03:14:19.359 --> 03:14:21.896 assess that as we go, and this is the 03:14:21.920 --> 03:14:24.295 perfect example of that. Councelor, Howe 03:14:24.319 --> 03:14:26.536 do you wish to close? 03:14:26.560 --> 03:14:28.936 Thank you, Mayor Ashley. Um, this is 03:14:28.960 --> 03:14:31.255 also about children. Children want to go 03:14:31.279 --> 03:14:33.576 and play sport in their local area and 03:14:33.600 --> 03:14:35.656 as they mature, keep playing sport in 03:14:35.680 --> 03:14:37.896 their local area as we would do with a 03:14:37.920 --> 03:14:40.056 tennis club where we can play tennis, we 03:14:40.080 --> 03:14:42.215 can play socially and we keep staying 03:14:42.239 --> 03:14:44.536 and keeping the sport within our area. 03:14:44.560 --> 03:14:46.696 That is probably really the basis of of 03:14:46.720 --> 03:14:49.496 this. Um and interestingly enough, I 03:14:49.520 --> 03:14:52.520 recently had a joint meeting with um 03:14:54.319 --> 03:14:57.016 both state and federal MPs and it was 03:14:57.040 --> 03:14:59.816 the number one item that came up. Thank 03:14:59.840 --> 03:15:00.536 you. 03:15:00.560 --> 03:15:02.455 Thank you councelor Howe. I will put this 03:15:02.479 --> 03:15:05.479 to the vote. All those in favor 03:15:06.160 --> 03:15:08.455 that is council Agatan, councelor White, 03:15:08.479 --> 03:15:10.375 councelor O'Donnell, councelor Law, 03:15:10.399 --> 03:15:11.976 councelor Ashworth, Collett, councelor 03:15:12.000 --> 03:15:14.455 Revenitus, councelor Howe, Councelor Saab, 03:15:14.479 --> 03:15:17.479 and myself and all those abstaining. 03:15:17.600 --> 03:15:20.295 Councelor Thanosopoulos. 03:15:20.319 --> 03:15:23.096 Thank you. Item 12.3, councelor Howe, the 03:15:23.120 --> 03:15:25.415 beauty spot shade. Are you moving as it 03:15:25.439 --> 03:15:26.616 appears in the agenda? 03:15:26.640 --> 03:15:27.335 Yes, thank you. 03:15:27.359 --> 03:15:30.359 Do I have a seconder? Council Agatan. 03:15:30.560 --> 03:15:31.976 Councelor Howedy wish to speak to the 03:15:32.000 --> 03:15:32.856 motion 03:15:32.880 --> 03:15:34.136 as it appears. Thank you. 03:15:34.160 --> 03:15:36.536 Thank you. Council Agatan. 03:15:36.560 --> 03:15:38.056 Any other councils wishing to speak to 03:15:38.080 --> 03:15:41.080 the motion? Council Law. 03:15:44.160 --> 03:15:46.136 Thank you, Mayor. shade structures 03:15:46.160 --> 03:15:48.375 are important. I do believe though that 03:15:48.399 --> 03:15:49.576 this motion didn't need to come to 03:15:49.600 --> 03:15:51.496 council for resolution. it's an 03:15:51.520 --> 03:15:53.255 operational matter. Notice of motions 03:15:53.279 --> 03:15:54.375 should really be about strategic 03:15:54.399 --> 03:15:56.536 direction with their value lying in 03:15:56.560 --> 03:15:59.016 setting policy. Um, Howeever, if we're 03:15:59.040 --> 03:16:01.656 focusing on shade, um, I do know of 03:16:01.680 --> 03:16:04.616 another spot, um, that needs shade, 03:16:04.640 --> 03:16:06.455 which is located on Owen Street in 03:16:06.479 --> 03:16:08.295 Morialik, which needs an umbrella, and 03:16:08.319 --> 03:16:10.136 I've spoken to officers about this. Um, 03:16:10.160 --> 03:16:11.976 it is heavily used by locals. It's a 03:16:12.000 --> 03:16:14.056 gathering place for the Malik Easter egg 03:16:14.080 --> 03:16:16.056 hunt and the October Halloween scavenger 03:16:16.080 --> 03:16:17.016 hunt. 03:16:17.040 --> 03:16:17.576 Recently, 03:16:17.600 --> 03:16:20.056 relevance. 03:16:20.080 --> 03:16:22.696 I will uphold that point of order 03:16:22.720 --> 03:16:24.776 simply because this is referring solely 03:16:24.800 --> 03:16:26.776 to the beauty spot and the shade there. 03:16:26.800 --> 03:16:28.936 So, if you can keep it relevant to that, 03:16:28.960 --> 03:16:30.455 that would be appreciated. 03:16:30.479 --> 03:16:32.536 Okay. Thank you. just mentioning 03:16:32.560 --> 03:16:34.056 that there are other spaces around 03:16:34.080 --> 03:16:36.455 Kingston that also require shade. 03:16:36.479 --> 03:16:37.976 and the motion could have been dealt 03:16:38.000 --> 03:16:40.056 with operationally. 03:16:40.080 --> 03:16:42.455 Thank you, council law. Any other 03:16:42.479 --> 03:16:45.479 councilors on this motion? 03:16:45.520 --> 03:16:48.520 Council Saab, 03:16:50.560 --> 03:16:52.136 I think part of the discussion when 03:16:52.160 --> 03:16:53.576 this was brought to us as well and I 03:16:53.600 --> 03:16:56.536 raised it with um, councelor Howe, but My 03:16:56.560 --> 03:16:58.455 apologies for not following up was just 03:16:58.479 --> 03:16:59.976 to see whether or not we could actually 03:17:00.000 --> 03:17:02.776 consult with the community down there in 03:17:02.800 --> 03:17:05.576 the formation of the report. mostly 03:17:05.600 --> 03:17:08.056 because I know when we've considered um 03:17:08.080 --> 03:17:10.375 structures along our foreshore, a lot of 03:17:10.399 --> 03:17:12.455 the residents seem to have issues with 03:17:12.479 --> 03:17:14.136 building structures that obscure their 03:17:14.160 --> 03:17:16.536 view of the foreshore. Um so I know 03:17:16.560 --> 03:17:17.736 there's some residents that aren't 03:17:17.760 --> 03:17:20.056 necesSaabily while they're probably happy 03:17:20.080 --> 03:17:22.455 for shade, they'd be really specific 03:17:22.479 --> 03:17:24.215 about the type of shade that they would 03:17:24.239 --> 03:17:26.856 like to see. Um which is why generally 03:17:26.880 --> 03:17:28.536 when we talk about shade along our 03:17:28.560 --> 03:17:31.335 foreshore if it's not on a regional like 03:17:31.359 --> 03:17:34.215 a regional located park or space 03:17:34.239 --> 03:17:35.896 generally that's provided in the form of 03:17:35.920 --> 03:17:38.056 trees and I know there are trees at the 03:17:38.080 --> 03:17:41.080 beauty spot location. Um, so I I guess 03:17:41.279 --> 03:17:43.335 part of what I'm putting forward to, I'm 03:17:43.359 --> 03:17:45.335 not seeking an amendment, is just to 03:17:45.359 --> 03:17:47.096 articulate that I think it is important 03:17:47.120 --> 03:17:48.936 part of the formation of this report is 03:17:48.960 --> 03:17:51.255 actually to consult with not just the 03:17:51.279 --> 03:17:53.415 residents that um are immediately are 03:17:53.439 --> 03:17:56.439 butting or or surrounding beauty spot 03:17:57.120 --> 03:17:58.696 but extending that a little bit 03:17:58.720 --> 03:18:00.375 further for the people who drive, walk, 03:18:00.399 --> 03:18:03.176 run past um the beauty spot and 03:18:03.200 --> 03:18:05.415 actually use that space for um the 03:18:05.439 --> 03:18:08.439 beautiful little park that it is. 03:18:09.359 --> 03:18:11.016 Thank you councelor S. any other 03:18:11.040 --> 03:18:14.040 councilors 03:18:14.080 --> 03:18:17.080 councelor Howe do you wish to close? 03:18:17.359 --> 03:18:19.816 Thank you me. This was the second item 03:18:19.840 --> 03:18:21.576 that came up in my recent workshop with 03:18:21.600 --> 03:18:24.600 the state and federal MPs. Um and it 03:18:25.040 --> 03:18:26.776 doesn't 03:18:26.800 --> 03:18:28.295 so one of the issues at the moment is 03:18:28.319 --> 03:18:30.856 that the Karum boardwalk doesn't have 03:18:30.880 --> 03:18:33.016 any shade on it specifically so it 03:18:33.040 --> 03:18:34.455 doesn't block the views of any of the 03:18:34.479 --> 03:18:36.936 residents as this is just around the 03:18:36.960 --> 03:18:38.696 corner. Therefore, it has no shade 03:18:38.720 --> 03:18:41.720 provided. Um, it certainly has um the 03:18:42.399 --> 03:18:44.936 ability to have a small shade area. But 03:18:44.960 --> 03:18:47.960 importantly, what shade is needed is 03:18:48.720 --> 03:18:51.415 shade that has accessibility. And you 03:18:51.439 --> 03:18:52.856 cannot always get that around trees 03:18:52.880 --> 03:18:54.056 unless you're going to concrete around 03:18:54.080 --> 03:18:57.080 the bottom of the tree. So, um, we all 03:18:57.200 --> 03:18:58.936 love trees, but it's got to be 03:18:58.960 --> 03:19:01.415 accessible. Thank you. 03:19:01.439 --> 03:19:03.255 Thank you, council. Howe I will put that 03:19:03.279 --> 03:19:06.279 to the vote. All those in favor 03:19:06.399 --> 03:19:08.536 that is council Agatan, council white, 03:19:08.560 --> 03:19:11.016 councelor O'Donnell, councelor Howe, and 03:19:11.040 --> 03:19:14.040 myself. 03:19:15.760 --> 03:19:18.760 White O'Donnell. Howe? 03:19:19.760 --> 03:19:22.136 Myself. 03:19:22.160 --> 03:19:25.160 Thank you. All those against 03:19:25.439 --> 03:19:27.576 council law 03:19:27.600 --> 03:19:29.816 and abstaining. 03:19:29.840 --> 03:19:32.136 Councelor Fanosopouloolis, Councelor 03:19:32.160 --> 03:19:34.215 Ashworth, Collett, Councelor Revenitus, 03:19:34.239 --> 03:19:36.856 and Councelor S. 03:19:36.880 --> 03:19:39.880 And I believe that is lost. 03:19:41.680 --> 03:19:44.680 Oh, casting vote. 03:19:46.000 --> 03:19:47.656 I will support that and put that through 03:19:47.680 --> 03:19:50.680 on the casting vote as four 03:19:52.160 --> 03:19:55.160 and have that item as carried. 03:20:01.439 --> 03:20:04.056 Thank you. The next item is the notice 03:20:04.080 --> 03:20:05.656 of motion for Moraban Activity Center. 03:20:05.680 --> 03:20:08.680 Council Saab as it appears in the agenda. 03:20:08.720 --> 03:20:11.255 Thank you. Do I have a seconder? 03:20:11.279 --> 03:20:14.279 Council Agatan. Council Saab. 03:20:16.239 --> 03:20:18.375 Thank you, Madame Mayor. I'll I'll try 03:20:18.399 --> 03:20:20.056 to be brief. I'm sorry, but it's an 03:20:20.080 --> 03:20:21.736 important area of concern to the 03:20:21.760 --> 03:20:23.816 community. Moraban Activity Center 03:20:23.840 --> 03:20:26.375 was one of the 10 designated spots for 03:20:26.399 --> 03:20:28.295 and the initial 10 designated city 03:20:28.319 --> 03:20:30.056 growths that the state government had 03:20:30.080 --> 03:20:32.375 designated. Um, we already know if you 03:20:32.399 --> 03:20:34.536 drive past Moraban, you'll see there's 03:20:34.560 --> 03:20:36.215 um I forgot what they're called, the 03:20:36.239 --> 03:20:37.576 words, but Hustings, I think is that 03:20:37.600 --> 03:20:39.656 what they're called? The big things that 03:20:39.680 --> 03:20:41.656 are on the chain link fences that that 03:20:41.680 --> 03:20:43.255 talk about developments and buildings 03:20:43.279 --> 03:20:44.455 that are coming up. Anyway, you'll see 03:20:44.479 --> 03:20:46.616 it everywhere in Rabin. Um, there is a 03:20:46.640 --> 03:20:47.656 lot of development that's occurring 03:20:47.680 --> 03:20:49.656 there. It's going to see a high a high 03:20:49.680 --> 03:20:51.496 level of density as well. Well, it 03:20:51.520 --> 03:20:53.576 can see up to 12 stories. That was 03:20:53.600 --> 03:20:55.255 that's what was designated by the state 03:20:55.279 --> 03:20:57.255 government. Howeever, in all of that and 03:20:57.279 --> 03:20:58.536 with all the development, what we 03:20:58.560 --> 03:21:01.176 haven't done yet is update our plan for 03:21:01.200 --> 03:21:03.016 what the Moraban Activity Center is and 03:21:03.040 --> 03:21:05.656 what it could possibly be, including and 03:21:05.680 --> 03:21:07.096 taking into consideration the 03:21:07.120 --> 03:21:09.496 connections from Moraban Arts and 03:21:09.520 --> 03:21:11.176 Culture Precinct where the city hall and 03:21:11.200 --> 03:21:13.016 Arts Center is all the way through to 03:21:13.040 --> 03:21:15.496 the TA and to the hospital as well as 03:21:15.520 --> 03:21:17.576 to the St Kilda St Kilda football club 03:21:17.600 --> 03:21:20.455 when RCA reserve and um Moraban Reserve 03:21:20.479 --> 03:21:23.096 and Park. all of that they're they're 03:21:23.120 --> 03:21:25.816 almost disjointed pieces of really 03:21:25.840 --> 03:21:27.976 important infrastructure and spaces that 03:21:28.000 --> 03:21:29.976 our community can use, but we haven't 03:21:30.000 --> 03:21:31.415 actually planned for what that would 03:21:31.439 --> 03:21:34.136 look like into the future or at least 03:21:34.160 --> 03:21:35.656 when we had planned what it would look 03:21:35.680 --> 03:21:37.816 like. Our plans are kind of kind of been 03:21:37.840 --> 03:21:39.656 thrown out the window because of the the 03:21:39.680 --> 03:21:41.576 new plans that are being um put forward 03:21:41.600 --> 03:21:43.016 by the state government. And I think we 03:21:43.040 --> 03:21:44.936 need to adapt our plans and consider 03:21:44.960 --> 03:21:46.936 them further. My particular notice of 03:21:46.960 --> 03:21:48.616 motion is actually calling for us to try 03:21:48.640 --> 03:21:50.136 to receive some funding from the state 03:21:50.160 --> 03:21:51.656 government to do some of the advocacy 03:21:51.680 --> 03:21:53.415 work and figuring out what the plan 03:21:53.439 --> 03:21:56.439 would look like for um the the the 03:21:57.600 --> 03:21:59.415 station which is in need of of 03:21:59.439 --> 03:22:01.255 revitalization. That's going to be a 03:22:01.279 --> 03:22:02.776 significant piece of work but I think we 03:22:02.800 --> 03:22:05.800 need to advocate for it. Um that's okay. 03:22:06.319 --> 03:22:09.016 we need to advocate for that. Um, 03:22:09.040 --> 03:22:10.776 part of that as well is to make sure 03:22:10.800 --> 03:22:12.455 that we can go out to the market because 03:22:12.479 --> 03:22:13.816 now that the state government has 03:22:13.840 --> 03:22:15.896 identified 50 other activity centers 03:22:15.920 --> 03:22:18.920 with those 10, we're not quite sure, 03:22:19.040 --> 03:22:20.696 and this is why this is a staged 03:22:20.720 --> 03:22:22.536 approach, we're not quite sure if the 03:22:22.560 --> 03:22:24.455 market now is going to meet that demand 03:22:24.479 --> 03:22:25.656 or whether or not they're wanting to go 03:22:25.680 --> 03:22:27.415 and develop and invest in other areas, 03:22:27.439 --> 03:22:29.656 not necesSaabily in Morabin. So before we 03:22:29.680 --> 03:22:31.656 kind of go down this route of of going 03:22:31.680 --> 03:22:33.255 and investing all of this work for 03:22:33.279 --> 03:22:34.375 something that might not come into 03:22:34.399 --> 03:22:35.816 fruition, I'm suggesting that we go 03:22:35.840 --> 03:22:37.896 through a stage approach of checking if 03:22:37.920 --> 03:22:39.415 there is market interest in wanting to 03:22:39.439 --> 03:22:41.255 develop Moraban. Once we understand if 03:22:41.279 --> 03:22:42.696 there is market interest, then we can go 03:22:42.720 --> 03:22:44.056 through those stage plans to figure out 03:22:44.080 --> 03:22:45.415 what the vision of Moraban would look 03:22:45.439 --> 03:22:47.255 like into the future. If it turns out 03:22:47.279 --> 03:22:49.415 there isn't market, there isn't a market 03:22:49.439 --> 03:22:51.016 interest, maybe we can do that work 03:22:51.040 --> 03:22:52.455 further down the line once we kind of 03:22:52.479 --> 03:22:53.736 see more investment happening into 03:22:53.760 --> 03:22:55.976 Moraban. So it's not to kind of um 03:22:56.000 --> 03:22:57.496 overinvest what we need to in the 03:22:57.520 --> 03:22:59.496 advocacy around this particular space. 03:22:59.520 --> 03:23:02.136 Um I will say and I've said it in the 03:23:02.160 --> 03:23:04.776 rationale Moraban Activity Center is 03:23:04.800 --> 03:23:06.455 one of our major activity centers but it 03:23:06.479 --> 03:23:08.136 has the highest level of turnover of 03:23:08.160 --> 03:23:09.896 small businesses. It's got the highest 03:23:09.920 --> 03:23:12.136 level of closed businesses currently. 03:23:12.160 --> 03:23:14.056 and it's constantly happening. It's 03:23:14.080 --> 03:23:15.255 really difficult to keep these 03:23:15.279 --> 03:23:17.016 businesses flourishing and part of that 03:23:17.040 --> 03:23:18.856 is needing the density to come in but 03:23:18.880 --> 03:23:20.455 also part of that is the station is not 03:23:20.479 --> 03:23:22.455 fulfilling its respon like its its 03:23:22.479 --> 03:23:24.856 current need. Thank you. 03:23:24.880 --> 03:23:26.215 Thank you councelor Saab. Councelor 03:23:26.239 --> 03:23:28.616 Agatan 03:23:28.640 --> 03:23:30.856 reserve. Any other councilors on this 03:23:30.880 --> 03:23:32.856 motion? Councelor Howe? 03:23:32.880 --> 03:23:34.616 just a question trying to get an 03:23:34.640 --> 03:23:37.415 understanding of the costs for the 03:23:37.439 --> 03:23:39.176 market analysis. 03:23:39.200 --> 03:23:40.856 Can somebody give me what that could 03:23:40.880 --> 03:23:43.880 look like? 03:23:45.200 --> 03:23:47.976 Mr. Cman, you're just so eager to 03:23:48.000 --> 03:23:50.455 answer. 03:23:50.479 --> 03:23:53.335 Um through you, Madame Mayor. in the 03:23:53.359 --> 03:23:56.215 guidance note um would draw that out in 03:23:56.239 --> 03:23:58.696 the report that council's asking. We 03:23:58.720 --> 03:24:01.720 think it will likely cost over $25,000. 03:24:02.399 --> 03:24:05.399 Um so hence um that we bring a report 03:24:06.479 --> 03:24:09.255 back to council to provide it guidance 03:24:09.279 --> 03:24:11.736 and we will try and get a a rough price 03:24:11.760 --> 03:24:14.536 on that council for you as part of 03:24:14.560 --> 03:24:16.616 completing um the report back to 03:24:16.640 --> 03:24:17.335 council. 03:24:17.359 --> 03:24:18.936 Thank you. 03:24:18.960 --> 03:24:21.960 Thank you. Any other counselors? 03:24:23.680 --> 03:24:26.056 I will put that to the vote. All those 03:24:26.080 --> 03:24:29.080 in favor 03:24:29.439 --> 03:24:32.439 that is carried unanimously. 03:24:36.880 --> 03:24:39.335 Thank you. the next one is councelor 03:24:39.359 --> 03:24:40.776 Agatan council expenses and 03:24:40.800 --> 03:24:42.936 reimbursements as it appears in the 03:24:42.960 --> 03:24:45.960 agenda. Thank you. Do I have a seconder? 03:24:46.160 --> 03:24:49.160 Councelor O'Donnell. 03:24:49.359 --> 03:24:52.359 Council Agatan. 03:25:03.680 --> 03:25:06.680 Do you want my mic? No. 03:25:07.920 --> 03:25:10.920 Jane, 03:25:11.600 --> 03:25:14.295 thank you. Sharing is caring indeed. 03:25:14.319 --> 03:25:16.455 I'll be very brief out of respect for 03:25:16.479 --> 03:25:19.479 everyone's time and tired red eyes. 03:25:21.040 --> 03:25:23.736 Um councilors already have very generous 03:25:23.760 --> 03:25:26.760 access to peak body training open to all 03:25:27.120 --> 03:25:28.856 councils regardless of their membership 03:25:28.880 --> 03:25:31.880 to those peak bodies. Many councilors 03:25:32.720 --> 03:25:34.136 have had the opportunity to travel 03:25:34.160 --> 03:25:37.016 interstate and attend such events. 03:25:37.040 --> 03:25:38.616 Additionally, I understand that the 03:25:38.640 --> 03:25:41.415 directorship training is also available 03:25:41.439 --> 03:25:44.439 within the definition of the pig body 03:25:44.560 --> 03:25:47.415 training. This motion simply seeks to 03:25:47.439 --> 03:25:49.016 reassure our community that we are 03:25:49.040 --> 03:25:51.335 measured transparent and accountable 03:25:51.359 --> 03:25:53.496 when it comes to both non-pig body 03:25:53.520 --> 03:25:55.816 training and declaration and disclosures 03:25:55.840 --> 03:25:58.696 of expenses. Um as for the proposed 03:25:58.720 --> 03:26:01.720 amendments um to accumulate their news 03:26:01.840 --> 03:26:04.536 amounts as um councelor Aanosopouolis 03:26:04.560 --> 03:26:06.936 had suggested and carry them forward to 03:26:06.960 --> 03:26:09.415 future years um I don't have any issues 03:26:09.439 --> 03:26:12.056 with that. Kingston policy regarding 03:26:12.080 --> 03:26:14.375 council expenses states that any council 03:26:14.399 --> 03:26:16.375 of funded attendance training or 03:26:16.399 --> 03:26:19.335 conferences provided by non pig industry 03:26:19.359 --> 03:26:21.976 bodies requires council approval. So 03:26:22.000 --> 03:26:25.000 regardless those items coming to council 03:26:26.080 --> 03:26:29.080 for an approval and I hope that you all 03:26:29.760 --> 03:26:31.736 can support that motion tonight. Thank 03:26:31.760 --> 03:26:33.016 you. 03:26:33.040 --> 03:26:36.040 Thank you councelor. Councelor O'Donnell 03:26:36.560 --> 03:26:38.776 reserf. Any other councilors? Councelor 03:26:38.800 --> 03:26:41.415 Athanasopoulos. 03:26:41.439 --> 03:26:44.439 just just to move the the amendments 03:26:44.640 --> 03:26:47.415 um for councilors to consider. So at 03:26:47.439 --> 03:26:49.415 the end of point one when activities 03:26:49.439 --> 03:26:51.816 finish the word activities finish with 03:26:51.840 --> 03:26:53.576 unused funding for each counselor to be 03:26:53.600 --> 03:26:56.600 rolled over for future you for use in 03:26:57.120 --> 03:26:59.576 future years and expiring at the end of 03:26:59.600 --> 03:27:02.375 the council term of a council term. 03:27:02.399 --> 03:27:04.215 That's to ensure that we don't I won't 03:27:04.239 --> 03:27:07.096 speak to it. I'll wait. And the second 03:27:07.120 --> 03:27:10.120 one sorry I'm just clicking around which 03:27:10.319 --> 03:27:12.696 is that officers refer to the local 03:27:12.720 --> 03:27:14.616 government inspectorate reports into 03:27:14.640 --> 03:27:16.776 council expenses and reimbursements. So 03:27:16.800 --> 03:27:18.455 it doesn't I won't speak to that one 03:27:18.479 --> 03:27:19.976 either. 03:27:20.000 --> 03:27:22.375 Thank you. 03:27:22.399 --> 03:27:25.016 Is that acceptable to council agent as 03:27:25.040 --> 03:27:26.455 the mover councelor O'Donnell the 03:27:26.479 --> 03:27:29.096 seconder will include that as the 03:27:29.120 --> 03:27:31.976 substantive? 03:27:32.000 --> 03:27:32.936 And now you can speak to the 03:27:32.960 --> 03:27:34.455 substantive. 03:27:34.479 --> 03:27:37.479 Thanks. Yeah, I I I welcome this 03:27:37.840 --> 03:27:39.816 notice of motion. I I think it's good. I 03:27:39.840 --> 03:27:42.840 think one the cap does give community 03:27:43.840 --> 03:27:45.816 some you know confidence on what it 03:27:45.840 --> 03:27:47.736 could be for counselors. It allows now 03:27:47.760 --> 03:27:50.136 for some scope that if there were 03:27:50.160 --> 03:27:51.816 more expensive things that needed to be 03:27:51.840 --> 03:27:53.816 done that could be potentially done over 03:27:53.840 --> 03:27:55.255 different years. It also acknowledges 03:27:55.279 --> 03:27:57.816 that everyone's year is different like 03:27:57.840 --> 03:27:59.496 you know a whole bunch of things could 03:27:59.520 --> 03:28:00.856 happen in someone's personal life that 03:28:00.880 --> 03:28:02.856 requires something a bit different. So 03:28:02.880 --> 03:28:05.880 it might it might change that. Um, also 03:28:06.960 --> 03:28:09.960 it it seeks to um look at reports 03:28:11.680 --> 03:28:12.856 that have already been done by other 03:28:12.880 --> 03:28:14.215 agencies and the local government 03:28:14.239 --> 03:28:16.375 inspectorate is an important agency 03:28:16.399 --> 03:28:17.736 to make sure that we're doing things 03:28:17.760 --> 03:28:20.760 correctly. and finally and probably 03:28:20.960 --> 03:28:22.455 most importantly, it also acknowledges 03:28:22.479 --> 03:28:25.016 the requirement for council laws to do 03:28:25.040 --> 03:28:27.176 their job properly um to be able to go 03:28:27.200 --> 03:28:29.656 out there and and do whatever it is 03:28:29.680 --> 03:28:31.656 required. Um, sometimes it could be 03:28:31.680 --> 03:28:33.576 training, sometimes it might be actually 03:28:33.600 --> 03:28:35.016 going to certain events to make sure 03:28:35.040 --> 03:28:37.016 that you speak to the right people and 03:28:37.040 --> 03:28:39.255 get the right the correct outcomes 03:28:39.279 --> 03:28:41.335 for the community of the city of 03:28:41.359 --> 03:28:44.056 Kingston. So, I commend this motion 03:28:44.080 --> 03:28:46.856 that's now put before council. 03:28:46.880 --> 03:28:48.776 Thank you, Councelor Thanos. Any other 03:28:48.800 --> 03:28:51.800 councilors? Councelor Saab. 03:28:52.640 --> 03:28:54.616 Thank you, Mayor. Um I just wanted to 03:28:54.640 --> 03:28:57.640 talk to specifically point 2. Um I'm I'm 03:28:58.399 --> 03:29:00.056 finding extreme difficulty in supporting 03:29:00.080 --> 03:29:01.736 specifically point 2, the receiver of 03:29:01.760 --> 03:29:03.096 quarterly report for all council's 03:29:03.120 --> 03:29:06.120 expenses and mitting this. Um having sat 03:29:06.160 --> 03:29:08.136 on the local government mayoral advisory 03:29:08.160 --> 03:29:10.455 panel and been on the MAV board and 03:29:10.479 --> 03:29:12.136 having spoken to other councils and read 03:29:12.160 --> 03:29:14.616 reports from Alwa and ALGA and other 03:29:14.640 --> 03:29:16.536 different bodies that talk about the 03:29:16.560 --> 03:29:18.856 expense reporting element of this. This 03:29:18.880 --> 03:29:20.776 kind of disproportionately affects and 03:29:20.800 --> 03:29:23.800 targets actually um primary primary 03:29:23.840 --> 03:29:26.056 caregivers specifically female 03:29:26.080 --> 03:29:28.136 counselors who tend to need to use the 03:29:28.160 --> 03:29:30.696 child care service support. we know 03:29:30.720 --> 03:29:33.496 and there have been reports in this um 03:29:33.520 --> 03:29:36.295 countless reports that having that 03:29:36.319 --> 03:29:37.976 called out specifically it is reported 03:29:38.000 --> 03:29:39.976 on it's on our websites but having that 03:29:40.000 --> 03:29:41.816 element specifically called out 03:29:41.840 --> 03:29:44.616 disproportionately affects primary 03:29:44.640 --> 03:29:47.576 caregivers who are generally females um 03:29:47.600 --> 03:29:49.576 female counselors in being able to 03:29:49.600 --> 03:29:51.255 access the services that they need to be 03:29:51.279 --> 03:29:52.536 able to fulfill their responsibilities 03:29:52.560 --> 03:29:54.696 and duties. The rest of it I think is a 03:29:54.720 --> 03:29:56.616 sensible approach. I think it's fine. I 03:29:56.640 --> 03:29:58.455 think the amendments are also sensible. 03:29:58.479 --> 03:30:00.696 I just have a real struggle trying to 03:30:00.720 --> 03:30:03.176 rationalize Howe we could do that without 03:30:03.200 --> 03:30:05.016 it trying to disproportionately affect 03:30:05.040 --> 03:30:06.936 maybe it won't affect counselors right 03:30:06.960 --> 03:30:08.936 now that are in this counselor group but 03:30:08.960 --> 03:30:10.375 it will affect counselors into the 03:30:10.399 --> 03:30:11.896 future. I don't think I could in good 03:30:11.920 --> 03:30:14.136 conscience support it. I really do urge 03:30:14.160 --> 03:30:15.576 our counselors to think about that 03:30:15.600 --> 03:30:17.736 because ordinarily that is where the 03:30:17.760 --> 03:30:20.760 element is where where um people tend to 03:30:21.040 --> 03:30:23.096 point those things out. and it and 03:30:23.120 --> 03:30:25.096 they do tend to target female counselors 03:30:25.120 --> 03:30:26.936 more specifically than they do others 03:30:26.960 --> 03:30:28.375 and I don't think that's particularly 03:30:28.399 --> 03:30:30.616 fair. I think there is a way for us to 03:30:30.640 --> 03:30:32.056 move forward without needing that part 03:30:32.080 --> 03:30:34.056 of it. Um so I would put forward to you 03:30:34.080 --> 03:30:36.056 may that we could vote for this in parts 03:30:36.080 --> 03:30:37.896 and call out point 2 if that is 03:30:37.920 --> 03:30:40.215 possible. Um I just don't think that 03:30:40.239 --> 03:30:42.776 that is something that I could in in any 03:30:42.800 --> 03:30:45.800 good conscience support. 03:30:46.720 --> 03:30:49.720 I'm happy to put that in parts. Yes. 03:30:50.319 --> 03:30:53.319 councelor Law, I think you are next. 03:30:57.359 --> 03:31:00.215 Thank you, Mayor. for context for 03:31:00.239 --> 03:31:02.616 anyone listening, back in February 2025, 03:31:02.640 --> 03:31:04.455 I brought to council a proposed budget 03:31:04.479 --> 03:31:05.976 for council professional development for 03:31:06.000 --> 03:31:07.976 non- peak body associations to bring 03:31:08.000 --> 03:31:10.136 Kingston City Council into better 03:31:10.160 --> 03:31:11.496 practice regarding the support it 03:31:11.520 --> 03:31:13.496 provides to counselors in terms of 03:31:13.520 --> 03:31:15.176 training and development of their 03:31:15.200 --> 03:31:17.415 competencies, capabilities, and skills. 03:31:17.439 --> 03:31:19.415 At the time, this was not carried yet. 03:31:19.439 --> 03:31:21.176 This motion is allocating a modest 03:31:21.200 --> 03:31:23.736 budget of per counselor annually for 03:31:23.760 --> 03:31:25.255 training which is not excessive and at 03:31:25.279 --> 03:31:27.415 the lower end of range sorry lower end 03:31:27.439 --> 03:31:29.816 range in comparison. This is modest 03:31:29.840 --> 03:31:32.136 compared to other category 3 councils. 03:31:32.160 --> 03:31:34.136 This is good practice across Victorian 03:31:34.160 --> 03:31:36.215 local government. It's not best practice 03:31:36.239 --> 03:31:38.616 but it is better practice which was 03:31:38.640 --> 03:31:40.295 exactly the intent of the motion earlier 03:31:40.319 --> 03:31:43.255 in the year. many provide additional 03:31:43.279 --> 03:31:44.936 allowances for tertiary courses or 03:31:44.960 --> 03:31:46.856 governance programs at other category 03:31:46.880 --> 03:31:49.096 three councils. Kingston is one of 03:31:49.120 --> 03:31:50.776 the only councils that still requires a 03:31:50.800 --> 03:31:53.016 resolution for non- peak body training 03:31:53.040 --> 03:31:55.016 where in most council the CEO approves 03:31:55.040 --> 03:31:58.040 and requests administratively 03:31:58.880 --> 03:32:00.856 research conducted supports this 03:32:00.880 --> 03:32:02.375 investment into professional 03:32:02.399 --> 03:32:05.399 development. we have found with a 03:32:05.439 --> 03:32:07.976 number of authors or read a couple 03:32:08.000 --> 03:32:10.375 can at all in 2025 found professional 03:32:10.399 --> 03:32:12.056 development makes public sector leaders 03:32:12.080 --> 03:32:14.536 more effective improving service to 03:32:14.560 --> 03:32:17.096 communities. Lund in 2022 sHoweed it 03:32:17.120 --> 03:32:18.856 align with organizational goals with 03:32:18.880 --> 03:32:20.215 professional norms increasing 03:32:20.239 --> 03:32:21.736 performance. 03:32:21.760 --> 03:32:24.295 Malletza of 2023 confirmed that public 03:32:24.319 --> 03:32:26.215 scrutiny requires councils to 03:32:26.239 --> 03:32:28.936 continually improve capacity while Turk 03:32:28.960 --> 03:32:31.960 and SA in 2019 and Borgan wand in 2020 03:32:32.080 --> 03:32:33.736 demonstrated that leadership development 03:32:33.760 --> 03:32:35.255 directly improves organizational 03:32:35.279 --> 03:32:37.736 outcomes. There are also equity 03:32:37.760 --> 03:32:39.576 considerations noted in various reports, 03:32:39.600 --> 03:32:40.936 including from the Victorian Local 03:32:40.960 --> 03:32:42.455 Government Inspectorate, which 03:32:42.479 --> 03:32:44.536 recommended expenses be grouped, but 03:32:44.560 --> 03:32:47.560 avoid discriminatory practices. The ANU 03:32:47.600 --> 03:32:49.496 gender institutees 2024 report on 03:32:49.520 --> 03:32:51.335 barriers to women in politics, 03:32:51.359 --> 03:32:52.776 highlights that child care should never 03:32:52.800 --> 03:32:54.375 be listed separately as this 03:32:54.399 --> 03:32:55.816 disproportionately targets women 03:32:55.840 --> 03:32:57.576 counselors and subjects them to scrutiny 03:32:57.600 --> 03:33:00.056 men really face. Such internalized 03:33:00.080 --> 03:33:02.215 misogyny undermines women in leadership. 03:33:02.239 --> 03:33:04.295 We debated the same issue in February 03:33:04.319 --> 03:33:06.056 and very pleased that council Agatan has 03:33:06.080 --> 03:33:07.736 raised this again which sends a clear 03:33:07.760 --> 03:33:09.656 message that Kingston does value council 03:33:09.680 --> 03:33:11.736 development equally. Professional 03:33:11.760 --> 03:33:13.096 development is not indulgence. It is 03:33:13.120 --> 03:33:14.696 investment in capacity equity in the 03:33:14.720 --> 03:33:16.375 long-term governance strength of King. 03:33:16.399 --> 03:33:18.536 Thank you. 03:33:18.560 --> 03:33:20.215 Thank you council law. Any other 03:33:20.239 --> 03:33:23.239 counselors? 03:33:24.000 --> 03:33:26.375 I would like to propose a small 03:33:26.399 --> 03:33:28.936 amendment to 03:33:28.960 --> 03:33:30.856 three if it's acceptable to the mover 03:33:30.880 --> 03:33:33.880 and the second and given that we receive 03:33:33.920 --> 03:33:36.920 a report on councelor expenses and they 03:33:38.000 --> 03:33:39.816 are published on the council website and 03:33:39.840 --> 03:33:42.536 if we're going to be receiving the 03:33:42.560 --> 03:33:43.816 report to the ordinance risk committee 03:33:43.840 --> 03:33:46.215 assuming this motion was to go through 03:33:46.239 --> 03:33:49.239 that the motion would include 03:33:49.279 --> 03:33:51.335 4.3 03:33:51.359 --> 03:33:53.816 that that go back to the start of the 03:33:53.840 --> 03:33:56.215 council term if that is acceptable to 03:33:56.239 --> 03:33:59.239 the mover and seconder. 03:34:00.000 --> 03:34:02.536 So, we'd receive the report into those 03:34:02.560 --> 03:34:04.056 reimbursements and there's there's 03:34:04.080 --> 03:34:06.056 actually not that many on this council. 03:34:06.080 --> 03:34:07.656 Um, but I think it's important if we're 03:34:07.680 --> 03:34:09.656 going to do it going back to the start 03:34:09.680 --> 03:34:12.680 of this council term. 03:34:15.920 --> 03:34:17.656 So, just because we don't have the 03:34:17.680 --> 03:34:20.680 screens, that would read 03:34:21.520 --> 03:34:23.576 Table a summary of any excessive claims 03:34:23.600 --> 03:34:25.496 or rejected reimbursement requests 03:34:25.520 --> 03:34:27.255 before the audit and risk committee each 03:34:27.279 --> 03:34:29.496 quarter to identify patterns of 03:34:29.520 --> 03:34:31.415 potential misuse early and reduce the 03:34:31.439 --> 03:34:33.496 likelihood of reputational or financial 03:34:33.520 --> 03:34:35.736 risk to the organization and for this 03:34:35.760 --> 03:34:37.335 summary to date back to the start of the 03:34:37.359 --> 03:34:39.176 council term. Is that acceptable to the 03:34:39.200 --> 03:34:42.200 mover and second? Thank you. 03:34:43.359 --> 03:34:46.359 So that now becomes part of the motion. 03:34:50.960 --> 03:34:53.176 I would just like to add that whilst 03:34:53.200 --> 03:34:55.816 I will be supporting the motion this 03:34:55.840 --> 03:34:58.840 evening and all parts of the motion um I 03:34:58.960 --> 03:35:00.536 would have personally preferred to see 03:35:00.560 --> 03:35:03.560 the cap on all counselor expense 03:35:04.479 --> 03:35:07.255 claims for training um I think whilst 03:35:07.279 --> 03:35:09.176 training and development is incredibly 03:35:09.200 --> 03:35:12.200 important at the same time the role 03:35:12.880 --> 03:35:14.696 in which we play within the organization 03:35:14.720 --> 03:35:17.016 is also being responsive to the 03:35:17.040 --> 03:35:18.936 community and the community's desire 03:35:18.960 --> 03:35:20.455 And part of that is that we are not 03:35:20.479 --> 03:35:23.016 spending their money excessively. And I 03:35:23.040 --> 03:35:24.856 think that even 10% of the counselor 03:35:24.880 --> 03:35:27.880 allowance for training just as a whole 03:35:28.479 --> 03:35:30.616 um would have still been something I 03:35:30.640 --> 03:35:32.616 would have supported. Um but we'll be 03:35:32.640 --> 03:35:33.976 supporting the motion this evening and 03:35:34.000 --> 03:35:37.000 would commend the motion to everyone. 03:35:37.200 --> 03:35:39.176 Are there any other counselors wishing 03:35:39.200 --> 03:35:42.200 to speak? 03:35:42.239 --> 03:35:45.239 who was the mover? Sorry, 03:35:46.000 --> 03:35:48.215 Jack. Thank you. It's getting late. Do 03:35:48.239 --> 03:35:51.239 you wish to close? 03:35:57.120 --> 03:35:59.656 Thank you all for your um open and 03:35:59.680 --> 03:36:02.680 honest feedback. Um in relation to the 03:36:02.800 --> 03:36:05.335 point about disclosing child care 03:36:05.359 --> 03:36:07.496 expenses as a single parent who at a 03:36:07.520 --> 03:36:10.520 time paid $1,500 a week out of pocket 03:36:11.359 --> 03:36:13.656 for the care of her child. I would 03:36:13.680 --> 03:36:15.816 personally not be ashamed to have that 03:36:15.840 --> 03:36:18.840 disclosed if during such time I needed 03:36:19.520 --> 03:36:21.736 to attend to my work duties or counselor 03:36:21.760 --> 03:36:24.215 duties. Unfortunately, as a senior tax 03:36:24.239 --> 03:36:26.295 manager and a chartered accountant, I 03:36:26.319 --> 03:36:28.856 can assure you that child care costs are 03:36:28.880 --> 03:36:31.096 deemed private and are not deductible 03:36:31.120 --> 03:36:34.120 against your income. So, personally, I 03:36:34.720 --> 03:36:36.536 would have no issue making such 03:36:36.560 --> 03:36:39.560 disclosures. Um if somebody feels 03:36:41.120 --> 03:36:44.120 differently that's absolutely fine but 03:36:44.720 --> 03:36:47.496 to give you an example of another 03:36:47.520 --> 03:36:50.295 very well-known counselor who has a 03:36:50.319 --> 03:36:52.295 child with severe diSaability her claims 03:36:52.319 --> 03:36:54.375 are sHowen and everybody knows what the 03:36:54.399 --> 03:36:55.816 claims are for. it's for the care of 03:36:55.840 --> 03:36:58.840 their daughter who needs um a specialist 03:36:59.040 --> 03:37:02.040 present and I do not know a single 03:37:02.560 --> 03:37:05.335 person who would battle eyelid or make a 03:37:05.359 --> 03:37:08.359 negative comment about a reasonable 03:37:08.720 --> 03:37:10.375 expense 03:37:10.399 --> 03:37:13.399 to enable that female to participate in 03:37:13.680 --> 03:37:16.056 local government politics. So, I'm not 03:37:16.080 --> 03:37:19.080 sure Howe we arrived at this conclusion, 03:37:19.200 --> 03:37:20.776 particularly people in the room who 03:37:20.800 --> 03:37:23.335 don't have children, but um as a woman, 03:37:23.359 --> 03:37:25.255 as a mother, as a parent, as a 03:37:25.279 --> 03:37:27.415 caregiver, and as somebody who paid 03:37:27.439 --> 03:37:30.439 $24,000 a year in fees, I would 03:37:31.359 --> 03:37:33.415 respectfully like to disagree with that. 03:37:33.439 --> 03:37:35.255 Um that is all. Thank you. 03:37:35.279 --> 03:37:37.816 Thank you, Council Agatan. So, I will 03:37:37.840 --> 03:37:40.840 put points one, 03:37:41.120 --> 03:37:43.496 three, and four to the vote. So point 03:37:43.520 --> 03:37:46.520 one being cap elig eligible counselor 03:37:46.800 --> 03:37:49.335 expenses. Councelor Saab 03:37:49.359 --> 03:37:52.359 sorry can I also request that point 2 03:37:52.560 --> 03:37:53.976 separately but point three separately 03:37:54.000 --> 03:37:55.496 now that it's been amended. 03:37:55.520 --> 03:37:56.856 So I'm just going to put now everything 03:37:56.880 --> 03:37:57.415 separately. 03:37:57.439 --> 03:38:00.056 Thank you. 03:38:00.080 --> 03:38:03.080 I'm just putting everything separately. 03:38:04.800 --> 03:38:06.856 So 0.1 03:38:06.880 --> 03:38:09.880 all those in favor of 0.1 03:38:11.279 --> 03:38:13.576 that is council Agatan councelor white 03:38:13.600 --> 03:38:15.255 councelor O'Donnell councelor Law 03:38:15.279 --> 03:38:17.016 councelor Athanosopoulos councelor 03:38:17.040 --> 03:38:18.936 Ashworth Collett councelor Reanus 03:38:18.960 --> 03:38:20.696 councelor Howe councelor s and myself 03:38:20.720 --> 03:38:23.720 unanimous thank you point two 03:38:26.000 --> 03:38:29.000 sorry no awkward 03:38:32.720 --> 03:38:35.720 all All right. Point two. 03:38:41.120 --> 03:38:44.120 All those in favor of 2 03:38:44.239 --> 03:38:46.776 that is councelor 03:38:46.800 --> 03:38:49.016 Agatan, councelor white, councelor 03:38:49.040 --> 03:38:50.776 O'Donnell, councelor Thanosopoulos, 03:38:50.800 --> 03:38:52.936 councelor Ashworth, councelor Revanus, 03:38:52.960 --> 03:38:55.176 councelor Howe and myself. All those 03:38:55.200 --> 03:38:58.056 against councelor Saab and abstaining 03:38:58.080 --> 03:39:01.080 councelor law 03:39:02.399 --> 03:39:05.399 and that is carried 03:39:07.439 --> 03:39:10.439 three 03:39:14.800 --> 03:39:17.800 all those in favor of.3 03:39:19.279 --> 03:39:22.215 that is councelor Agatan councelor white 03:39:22.239 --> 03:39:23.576 councelor O'Donnell councelor 03:39:23.600 --> 03:39:25.255 thanosopouolis Councelor Ashworth, 03:39:25.279 --> 03:39:27.176 Collett, Councelor Revitus, Councelor 03:39:27.200 --> 03:39:29.335 Howe, and myself. 03:39:29.359 --> 03:39:32.359 All those Oh, sorry. I'm getting ahead 03:39:32.560 --> 03:39:35.560 of myself. It's all right. 03:39:35.840 --> 03:39:37.656 It's all right. 03:39:37.680 --> 03:39:40.680 Just getting too excited. 03:39:43.200 --> 03:39:46.200 all those against and abstaining, 03:39:48.479 --> 03:39:51.479 council law and council s 03:39:54.960 --> 03:39:57.415 And that is carried. 03:39:57.439 --> 03:40:00.439 And then 04. 03:40:02.319 --> 03:40:05.319 All those in favor of point4. 03:40:06.720 --> 03:40:09.096 That was the point that Tony made in 03:40:09.120 --> 03:40:10.455 terms of referring to the reports from 03:40:10.479 --> 03:40:13.479 the inspector. 03:40:14.000 --> 03:40:17.000 That is carried unanimously. 03:40:23.439 --> 03:40:25.335 Right. 03:40:25.359 --> 03:40:28.359 Someone wants to move. They're welcome. 03:40:28.860 --> 03:40:31.860 [Music] 03:40:32.239 --> 03:40:35.239 Shall we? 03:40:36.560 --> 03:40:38.136 Are you moving an extension of time till 03:40:38.160 --> 03:40:40.215 what time? Councelor Agatan, 03:40:40.239 --> 03:40:43.176 can we aim for 115? 03:40:43.200 --> 03:40:46.200 115. 03:40:47.120 --> 03:40:48.776 I'm going to 03:40:48.800 --> 03:40:51.800 If we get to 1:15, we're in trouble. 03:40:52.479 --> 03:40:54.856 11:15. An extension of time moved. 03:40:54.880 --> 03:40:57.255 Councelor Agatan seconded councelor Saab. 03:40:57.279 --> 03:41:00.279 All those in favor? 03:41:01.040 --> 03:41:03.176 Okay. Councelor Agatan, councelor 03:41:03.200 --> 03:41:04.856 O'Donnell. 03:41:04.880 --> 03:41:07.880 Councelor Law, Councelor Athanosopoulos, 03:41:07.920 --> 03:41:10.056 Councelor Ashworth, Collett, Councelor 03:41:10.080 --> 03:41:13.080 Saab, and myself against. 03:41:14.000 --> 03:41:15.976 Councelor White, Councelor Revenitus, 03:41:16.000 --> 03:41:17.976 and Councelor Howe. And I think that's 03:41:18.000 --> 03:41:21.000 everyone. And that is Carrie, right? Two 03:41:21.040 --> 03:41:23.576 more to go. Suburban Radoop. Councelor 03:41:23.600 --> 03:41:25.576 White as it appears in the agenda. 03:41:25.600 --> 03:41:26.295 Yes, please. 03:41:26.319 --> 03:41:28.375 Thank you. Do I have a seconder? 03:41:28.399 --> 03:41:30.696 Councelor Agatan. Councelor White, do 03:41:30.720 --> 03:41:32.056 you wish to speak to your motion? 03:41:32.080 --> 03:41:33.896 Yes. 03:41:33.920 --> 03:41:35.255 With your microphone? 03:41:35.279 --> 03:41:38.279 If it works. Yes, it is working. 03:41:38.880 --> 03:41:40.776 Christmas tree. 03:41:40.800 --> 03:41:43.800 All right. Get this 03:41:45.120 --> 03:41:47.096 this motion is fairly 03:41:47.120 --> 03:41:49.255 straightforward. It's requesting a 03:41:49.279 --> 03:41:52.279 report to assess the undertaking of an 03:41:52.319 --> 03:41:54.696 investigation into the cost impact of 03:41:54.720 --> 03:41:57.335 the state government's SRL and activity 03:41:57.359 --> 03:42:00.359 center projects on Kingston Council rate 03:42:00.479 --> 03:42:03.479 payers and businesses. 03:42:03.520 --> 03:42:05.896 There's been limited discussion with our 03:42:05.920 --> 03:42:08.616 communities. Our local planning powers 03:42:08.640 --> 03:42:11.335 have been taken away from us and our 03:42:11.359 --> 03:42:13.896 quiet little bayside suburbs marked as 03:42:13.920 --> 03:42:16.856 high-rise activity centers. An 03:42:16.880 --> 03:42:19.880 eyewatering 51,500 03:42:20.319 --> 03:42:23.319 new dwellings set for Kingston by 201. 03:42:24.960 --> 03:42:27.016 And if you've seen the sketches, it's 03:42:27.040 --> 03:42:30.040 skyscrapers as far as the eye can see 03:42:30.080 --> 03:42:33.080 with minimal open space. It's quite 03:42:33.359 --> 03:42:34.936 confronting. 03:42:34.960 --> 03:42:37.335 It was only earlier this evening we 03:42:37.359 --> 03:42:39.496 were discussing the loss of Williams 03:42:39.520 --> 03:42:41.496 William Fry Reserve for Chelenham and 03:42:41.520 --> 03:42:44.520 Hyatt with the SRL. then there's the 03:42:44.880 --> 03:42:47.576 our friends with the SRL stabling yard 03:42:47.600 --> 03:42:50.295 in Heatherton um who were promised green 03:42:50.319 --> 03:42:53.319 wedge land which is now asbestos hazard 03:42:53.920 --> 03:42:56.856 blowing meters from their backyards. Um 03:42:56.880 --> 03:42:59.096 earlier this year um we had the 03:42:59.120 --> 03:43:02.120 environmental disaster um that saw 03:43:02.720 --> 03:43:05.016 Groves Reserve in Aspenale destroyed by 03:43:05.040 --> 03:43:08.040 the level crossing removal um and our 03:43:08.560 --> 03:43:11.335 beautiful local golf courses potentially 03:43:11.359 --> 03:43:14.359 disappearing forever one by one. Other 03:43:15.040 --> 03:43:17.175 than open space concerns, one of the 03:43:17.199 --> 03:43:19.496 main issues is that our drainage system 03:43:19.520 --> 03:43:21.976 is simply not built to manage this type 03:43:22.000 --> 03:43:24.616 of high-rise development. While our 03:43:24.640 --> 03:43:26.696 infrastructure and services are already 03:43:26.720 --> 03:43:29.016 strained and underfunded, 03:43:29.040 --> 03:43:32.040 I live in Mentone, devastatingly marked 03:43:32.319 --> 03:43:35.319 for an activity center. We're currently 03:43:35.760 --> 03:43:37.736 the piece of land that Dorothy 03:43:37.760 --> 03:43:40.215 mentioned tonight. It's the tiniest 03:43:40.239 --> 03:43:43.239 piece of land on the train line that 03:43:43.439 --> 03:43:46.439 should be community open space. And yet 03:43:46.640 --> 03:43:48.856 our council and our community has to 03:43:48.880 --> 03:43:51.880 fight to stop a sixstory development 03:43:52.239 --> 03:43:55.239 imposed by the state government. It's at 03:43:55.520 --> 03:43:57.656 one of our gridlocked Belalcom Road 03:43:57.680 --> 03:43:59.896 intersections after the level crossing 03:43:59.920 --> 03:44:01.976 and roundabout was replaced with Howe 03:44:02.000 --> 03:44:04.455 many sets of traffic lights. We 03:44:04.479 --> 03:44:07.479 unnecesSaabily wait bumper to bumper to 03:44:07.520 --> 03:44:07.896 and out. 03:44:07.920 --> 03:44:09.816 Sorry, mayor on relevance on this 03:44:09.840 --> 03:44:12.696 particular item. 03:44:12.720 --> 03:44:15.415 the particular comment you're referring 03:44:15.439 --> 03:44:16.936 to 03:44:16.960 --> 03:44:18.616 the discussion around the Mentone 03:44:18.640 --> 03:44:21.640 activity center and station and land 03:44:22.800 --> 03:44:25.800 with its respect to suburban rail loop. 03:44:31.439 --> 03:44:33.415 I'm going to not uphold that point of 03:44:33.439 --> 03:44:35.656 order simply because it refers to 03:44:35.680 --> 03:44:38.455 activity center programs 03:44:38.479 --> 03:44:39.896 affecting two centers in the 03:44:39.920 --> 03:44:41.656 municipality and the suburban rail loop 03:44:41.680 --> 03:44:43.496 project. So I would say that the 03:44:43.520 --> 03:44:45.496 reference to men given that it's Mentone 03:44:45.520 --> 03:44:47.016 and narabin as the activity center 03:44:47.040 --> 03:44:49.496 programs would be relevant to the motion 03:44:49.520 --> 03:44:52.520 that's in front of you 03:44:52.560 --> 03:44:54.856 as well as infrastructure and increased 03:44:54.880 --> 03:44:55.335 traffic. 03:44:55.359 --> 03:44:57.255 If you continue on just with what you 03:44:57.279 --> 03:44:57.896 were saying. 03:44:57.920 --> 03:45:00.920 Great. So tired of Balcom Road, I went 03:45:02.160 --> 03:45:04.696 up to Beach Road today. Bottlenecked to 03:45:04.720 --> 03:45:06.696 one lane. It was bumper to bumper from 03:45:06.720 --> 03:45:09.720 Mentone to the Old Bo Morris Hotel. On the 03:45:10.560 --> 03:45:12.696 way back, Charman Road traffic was 03:45:12.720 --> 03:45:14.936 banked up from Chelenham to pass 03:45:14.960 --> 03:45:17.816 Weatherall Road. The only streets not in 03:45:17.840 --> 03:45:20.776 red on the nav includes the the last 03:45:20.800 --> 03:45:23.656 surviving level crossing left at L Trobe 03:45:23.680 --> 03:45:26.215 Street, which will be another fight. No 03:45:26.239 --> 03:45:28.616 doubt it'll be closed on us soon, 03:45:28.640 --> 03:45:30.696 forcing even more congested through 03:45:30.720 --> 03:45:33.335 already gridlocked intersections. I'm 03:45:33.359 --> 03:45:36.359 really struggling Howe to see Howe to 03:45:36.960 --> 03:45:38.375 see Howe we're going to cope with the 03:45:38.399 --> 03:45:41.255 increased traffic and parking pressure 03:45:41.279 --> 03:45:43.816 created by high-rise cities in our 03:45:43.840 --> 03:45:46.776 suburbs. Putting the logistics of it all 03:45:46.800 --> 03:45:49.335 aside, infrastructure, 03:45:49.359 --> 03:45:52.359 services, schools, open space, and local 03:45:53.520 --> 03:45:56.136 up road upgrades should be funded before 03:45:56.160 --> 03:45:58.696 any new high-rise development within our 03:45:58.720 --> 03:46:01.576 city. It's important and I'm surprised 03:46:01.600 --> 03:46:04.600 we haven't already that as a council in 03:46:04.640 --> 03:46:06.696 terms of responsible fiscal management 03:46:06.720 --> 03:46:07.415 and 03:46:07.439 --> 03:46:10.215 why your time has elapsed. 03:46:10.239 --> 03:46:11.976 I was just going to finish by saying 03:46:12.000 --> 03:46:13.415 rate payers and businesses 03:46:13.439 --> 03:46:15.656 elapsed. Try you can address it in your 03:46:15.680 --> 03:46:16.776 closing if you need to. 03:46:16.800 --> 03:46:17.576 No problem. 03:46:17.600 --> 03:46:19.896 Thank you. 03:46:19.920 --> 03:46:22.920 Thank you. the seconder apologies. 03:46:24.319 --> 03:46:26.375 Who is the second? 03:46:26.399 --> 03:46:28.215 Councelor Agatan. Do you wish to speak 03:46:28.239 --> 03:46:29.736 to the motion? No. Any other counselors 03:46:29.760 --> 03:46:31.496 wishing to speak to the motion? 03:46:31.520 --> 03:46:34.520 Councelor Thanos. 03:46:35.120 --> 03:46:38.120 firstly I I I would say that 03:46:40.239 --> 03:46:42.936 what is being sought in this notice of 03:46:42.960 --> 03:46:44.696 motion 03:46:44.720 --> 03:46:47.720 um is very good. 03:46:48.399 --> 03:46:50.455 The problem I have with it is not 03:46:50.479 --> 03:46:52.776 knowing the end results of some things. 03:46:52.800 --> 03:46:55.800 So number one the final developments 03:46:55.920 --> 03:46:58.776 around these sites. Number two, what the 03:46:58.800 --> 03:47:00.616 state government actually identifies as 03:47:00.640 --> 03:47:03.640 developer contributions so that we then 03:47:03.680 --> 03:47:06.680 can relate that to what it would cost 03:47:07.279 --> 03:47:10.279 council or the local community and the 03:47:11.600 --> 03:47:13.736 numbers that we put up there are 03:47:13.760 --> 03:47:16.616 actually accurate without some of that 03:47:16.640 --> 03:47:17.976 underpinning work. I just used two 03:47:18.000 --> 03:47:20.776 examples. I'm sure if I referred to Mr. 03:47:20.800 --> 03:47:22.776 Goodman, he'll give a few more 03:47:22.800 --> 03:47:25.736 potentially, but without some of that 03:47:25.760 --> 03:47:28.375 init total 03:47:28.399 --> 03:47:30.056 view of what actually is going to 03:47:30.080 --> 03:47:32.536 happen, it's very difficult for us to do 03:47:32.560 --> 03:47:34.056 some of the I believe it would be 03:47:34.080 --> 03:47:35.896 difficult for us to do some of these 03:47:35.920 --> 03:47:38.136 things and make sure that what we are 03:47:38.160 --> 03:47:39.976 projecting out to the community is 03:47:40.000 --> 03:47:43.000 accurate and foolsome. We saw that in 03:47:43.680 --> 03:47:45.976 earlier items that were already 03:47:46.000 --> 03:47:49.000 referred to by the speaker earlier 03:47:49.439 --> 03:47:52.136 that um our officers are engaging and 03:47:52.160 --> 03:47:53.656 we're trying to influence those outcomes 03:47:53.680 --> 03:47:55.175 and in the guidance note I think there 03:47:55.199 --> 03:47:57.096 is reference to that. I think that is 03:47:57.120 --> 03:47:58.856 where we should focus a lot of our 03:47:58.880 --> 03:48:00.696 resource, 03:48:00.720 --> 03:48:03.720 see what those outcomes are and then be 03:48:03.920 --> 03:48:05.656 able to put something like this forward 03:48:05.680 --> 03:48:07.656 which I would wholeheartedly support 03:48:07.680 --> 03:48:09.976 because then we could quantify it and it 03:48:10.000 --> 03:48:11.656 would be based on real numbers and real 03:48:11.680 --> 03:48:14.295 outcomes. So that would be my opposition 03:48:14.319 --> 03:48:16.696 to supporting this here tonight. 03:48:16.720 --> 03:48:18.455 Thank you councelor Thanosopoulos. Any 03:48:18.479 --> 03:48:20.295 other counselors? 03:48:20.319 --> 03:48:23.319 Councelor Saab. 03:48:24.319 --> 03:48:26.295 Thank you. I just want to begin by 03:48:26.319 --> 03:48:28.295 recognizing the intent behind this 03:48:28.319 --> 03:48:30.696 motion. So, we all share a concern about 03:48:30.720 --> 03:48:32.455 the impact the state government's 03:48:32.479 --> 03:48:33.976 activity center programs and the 03:48:34.000 --> 03:48:35.576 suburban rail loop will have on our 03:48:35.600 --> 03:48:37.736 community. And we all want transparency 03:48:37.760 --> 03:48:40.215 and strong advocacy in this space. But 03:48:40.239 --> 03:48:41.976 as it stands, this motion would set 03:48:42.000 --> 03:48:44.136 council down an impractical and costly 03:48:44.160 --> 03:48:46.696 path that risks duplicating work already 03:48:46.720 --> 03:48:49.656 being done and importantly diverts our 03:48:49.680 --> 03:48:51.096 offices from where they can make the 03:48:51.120 --> 03:48:53.175 biggest difference right now which is 03:48:53.199 --> 03:48:55.976 set out in the guidance note. Let's be 03:48:56.000 --> 03:48:58.455 clear, the impact of these projects is 03:48:58.479 --> 03:49:00.536 already subject to rigorous statutory 03:49:00.560 --> 03:49:02.056 processes under the planning and 03:49:02.080 --> 03:49:04.375 environment act. The Suburban Rail Loop 03:49:04.399 --> 03:49:05.896 Authority, the Department Transport, 03:49:05.920 --> 03:49:07.415 Department of Transport and Planning, 03:49:07.439 --> 03:49:09.016 and the Standing Advisory Committees are 03:49:09.040 --> 03:49:10.616 all tasked with undertaking the very 03:49:10.640 --> 03:49:12.056 investigations that the motion is 03:49:12.080 --> 03:49:14.696 calling for. Council is already deeply 03:49:14.720 --> 03:49:17.335 engaged in those processes, putting 03:49:17.359 --> 03:49:19.096 forward strong submissions and 03:49:19.120 --> 03:49:21.335 advocating for our community, as was 03:49:21.359 --> 03:49:23.415 demonstrated earlier this evening in the 03:49:23.439 --> 03:49:24.856 in the other item that we had already 03:49:24.880 --> 03:49:27.736 voted for. If we now try to replicate 03:49:27.760 --> 03:49:29.096 the work through an additional 03:49:29.120 --> 03:49:30.936 investigation, we're going to be 03:49:30.960 --> 03:49:32.616 duplicating what the state agencies 03:49:32.640 --> 03:49:34.776 already are obliged to do without the 03:49:34.800 --> 03:49:36.696 resourcing or the authority that they 03:49:36.720 --> 03:49:39.016 have. Worse still, we risk confusing our 03:49:39.040 --> 03:49:41.255 community by presenting parallel streams 03:49:41.279 --> 03:49:44.215 of information. I also note that the 03:49:44.239 --> 03:49:46.455 proposal to mail every household and 03:49:46.479 --> 03:49:48.295 business across Kingston's with the 03:49:48.319 --> 03:49:51.175 findings officers have already advised 03:49:51.199 --> 03:49:53.335 this would come at a significant cost. 03:49:53.359 --> 03:49:55.255 Do we want to commit scarce rateayer 03:49:55.279 --> 03:49:56.536 dollars to something that may only 03:49:56.560 --> 03:49:57.976 duplicate the information state 03:49:58.000 --> 03:49:59.496 government is already required to 03:49:59.520 --> 03:50:01.736 provide? The truth is the redevelopment 03:50:01.760 --> 03:50:03.576 across activity centers and the SRL 03:50:03.600 --> 03:50:05.415 precincts will occur at different paces 03:50:05.439 --> 03:50:08.215 driven by market forces. If we attempt 03:50:08.239 --> 03:50:10.215 to predict precise costings, timings and 03:50:10.239 --> 03:50:12.616 infrastructures like councilors has said 03:50:12.640 --> 03:50:15.640 needs at this stage. It's not realistic. 03:50:15.680 --> 03:50:17.736 What is realistic is where we can add 03:50:17.760 --> 03:50:19.255 real value and that is to keep doing 03:50:19.279 --> 03:50:21.016 what we're already doing by influencing 03:50:21.040 --> 03:50:23.255 the design and planning. Now, while 03:50:23.279 --> 03:50:24.455 these projects are still in their 03:50:24.479 --> 03:50:26.776 formative stages, that's why our offices 03:50:26.800 --> 03:50:28.536 are prioritizing direct engagement with 03:50:28.560 --> 03:50:31.175 SRLA and the activity center planning 03:50:31.199 --> 03:50:33.255 process in Mentone. That is where 03:50:33.279 --> 03:50:35.335 council's advocacy has teeth and that is 03:50:35.359 --> 03:50:36.776 Howe we can secure the outcomes that 03:50:36.800 --> 03:50:39.096 benefit Kingston. So, I'm going to be 03:50:39.120 --> 03:50:40.696 voting against this motion, but it does 03:50:40.720 --> 03:50:42.375 not mean that we should be ignoring 03:50:42.399 --> 03:50:43.976 community concerns. It means we are 03:50:44.000 --> 03:50:46.215 choosing to use our resources wisely, 03:50:46.239 --> 03:50:47.976 focusing on proactive advocacy rather 03:50:48.000 --> 03:50:50.056 than duplicating state responsibilities. 03:50:50.080 --> 03:50:51.816 So I do think we should continue to hold 03:50:51.840 --> 03:50:53.576 the state government to account on the 03:50:53.600 --> 03:50:55.496 SRL. I think that's really important and 03:50:55.520 --> 03:50:57.255 we shouldn't lose sight of that. But we 03:50:57.279 --> 03:50:59.096 should we and we should continue to 03:50:59.120 --> 03:51:00.455 demand for the infrastructure, open 03:51:00.479 --> 03:51:02.616 space and community facilities that our 03:51:02.640 --> 03:51:04.616 residents deserve. But let's do it in a 03:51:04.640 --> 03:51:05.816 way that is a bit more effective, 03:51:05.840 --> 03:51:08.295 efficient and focused. and for those 03:51:08.319 --> 03:51:10.375 reasons, I can't support this motion 03:51:10.399 --> 03:51:11.736 this evening. 03:51:11.760 --> 03:51:13.255 Thank you councelor Saab. Any other 03:51:13.279 --> 03:51:15.736 counselors on the motion? Council of 03:51:15.760 --> 03:51:18.760 Law. 03:51:20.399 --> 03:51:22.375 Thank you, Mayor. the motion is 03:51:22.399 --> 03:51:25.175 against officer advice. Um as stated 03:51:25.199 --> 03:51:26.776 earlier tonight, council has already 03:51:26.800 --> 03:51:28.455 process in place to manage the impacts 03:51:28.479 --> 03:51:31.096 of the suburban rail loop. on the 03:51:31.120 --> 03:51:32.616 12th of May, a special council meeting 03:51:32.640 --> 03:51:35.255 considered the SRL draft structure plan, 03:51:35.279 --> 03:51:36.856 a submission that was endorsed and 03:51:36.880 --> 03:51:39.255 carried. On the 23rd of June, council 03:51:39.279 --> 03:51:41.415 again debated SRL related matters, 03:51:41.439 --> 03:51:42.936 endorsing position papers and 03:51:42.960 --> 03:51:44.936 negotiating community hub placements and 03:51:44.960 --> 03:51:47.656 approving MIUS with SRLA. 03:51:47.680 --> 03:51:49.096 Office have been officers have been 03:51:49.120 --> 03:51:50.696 clear and diligent that their focus is 03:51:50.720 --> 03:51:52.776 on influencing SRL planning outcomes and 03:51:52.800 --> 03:51:55.255 progressing Mentone's activity center. 03:51:55.279 --> 03:51:57.016 Officers do progress advocacy and 03:51:57.040 --> 03:51:58.696 therefore the motion is not necesSaaby. 03:51:58.720 --> 03:51:59.656 Thank you. 03:51:59.680 --> 03:52:01.096 Thank you, Council Law. Any other 03:52:01.120 --> 03:52:04.120 counselors? 03:52:05.040 --> 03:52:06.696 I will just add before I ask councelor 03:52:06.720 --> 03:52:09.096 White to close that whilst I'm 03:52:09.120 --> 03:52:10.696 supportive of a lot of parts in this 03:52:10.720 --> 03:52:13.255 motion and us seeking that information, 03:52:13.279 --> 03:52:14.856 I think the workload that this would 03:52:14.880 --> 03:52:17.880 actually put on officers is significant 03:52:18.160 --> 03:52:20.295 to be able to get this back into a form 03:52:20.319 --> 03:52:22.295 to come back to a council meeting. 03:52:22.319 --> 03:52:23.656 That's not to say that I wouldn't be 03:52:23.680 --> 03:52:26.375 supportive of us having a briefing that 03:52:26.399 --> 03:52:29.016 might consider some of these options, 03:52:29.040 --> 03:52:30.936 some of the things that we might need to 03:52:30.960 --> 03:52:33.576 look at that would be directly relevant 03:52:33.600 --> 03:52:36.056 to probably majority of these points. 03:52:36.080 --> 03:52:37.976 But I think to form that as part of a 03:52:38.000 --> 03:52:40.936 report to come back to council is going 03:52:40.960 --> 03:52:43.175 to be really difficult because there's a 03:52:43.199 --> 03:52:46.056 lot of information in there we don't yet 03:52:46.080 --> 03:52:48.536 know and it's going to probably take a 03:52:48.560 --> 03:52:50.536 lot of work to find out and the costs of 03:52:50.560 --> 03:52:53.335 that I think are enormous. So whilst I 03:52:53.359 --> 03:52:56.136 won't be supporting the motion itself, I 03:52:56.160 --> 03:52:58.056 would be very happy for the request to 03:52:58.080 --> 03:53:00.215 go to offices to provide some of this 03:53:00.239 --> 03:53:02.375 information that we may have to 03:53:02.399 --> 03:53:03.816 counselors at a briefing, whether that 03:53:03.840 --> 03:53:05.896 be at our briefing sessions or at a 03:53:05.920 --> 03:53:07.096 briefing for counselors that are 03:53:07.120 --> 03:53:09.896 interested in attending. um because this 03:53:09.920 --> 03:53:12.696 is a very important issue that I think 03:53:12.720 --> 03:53:14.295 we'd be able to probably have a more 03:53:14.319 --> 03:53:17.319 wholesome discussion about with it not 03:53:17.359 --> 03:53:19.255 necesSaabily needing to be a report and 03:53:19.279 --> 03:53:20.776 then we can consider further actions 03:53:20.800 --> 03:53:23.736 from that. Councelor Reanus, do you wish 03:53:23.760 --> 03:53:25.896 to speak to the motion? 03:53:25.920 --> 03:53:28.920 Yes, thank you. Um just in light of what 03:53:29.120 --> 03:53:31.816 you're saying there Madame Mayor um 03:53:31.840 --> 03:53:34.455 can we just break it up into pieces 03:53:34.479 --> 03:53:37.479 where you don't think it might be 03:53:37.600 --> 03:53:40.600 overloading reporters um officers for a 03:53:41.120 --> 03:53:42.616 report 03:53:42.640 --> 03:53:45.640 so that it's simplified and 03:53:46.080 --> 03:53:48.375 a lot shorter 03:53:48.399 --> 03:53:51.399 so that it's not labor intensive. 03:53:52.960 --> 03:53:54.776 Um, I'm not sure that there's a way that 03:53:54.800 --> 03:53:57.800 we could do that given the length of the 03:53:58.000 --> 03:54:01.000 motion without completely 03:54:01.279 --> 03:54:04.279 destroying the intent. Um, 03:54:04.479 --> 03:54:07.016 so whilst I appreciate the the 03:54:07.040 --> 03:54:08.936 suggestion, um, I'm not sure there's a 03:54:08.960 --> 03:54:10.455 way that I could do it without sort of 03:54:10.479 --> 03:54:11.896 messing with the intent of the motion 03:54:11.920 --> 03:54:14.295 itself. But I suppose my suggestion was 03:54:14.319 --> 03:54:16.455 that if the motion is lost, and it may 03:54:16.479 --> 03:54:18.215 or may not be, that that could 03:54:18.239 --> 03:54:20.136 potentially come back to a CIS 03:54:20.160 --> 03:54:21.415 discussion where councilors could 03:54:21.439 --> 03:54:24.136 discuss a way forward. 03:54:24.160 --> 03:54:27.160 But I will leave that up to council. Are 03:54:27.600 --> 03:54:28.776 there any other councils wishing to 03:54:28.800 --> 03:54:30.776 speak before I ask councelor White to 03:54:30.800 --> 03:54:33.800 close? Councelor White. 03:54:35.760 --> 03:54:38.760 So, we've established that we're getting 03:54:38.800 --> 03:54:41.800 these um skyscraper cities dumped in our 03:54:42.239 --> 03:54:44.136 little suburbs that we can't get in and 03:54:44.160 --> 03:54:47.160 out of as it is. Um and 03:54:49.439 --> 03:54:51.896 the the the basics aren't being done 03:54:51.920 --> 03:54:53.576 properly. We're we're having all our 03:54:53.600 --> 03:54:56.600 open space taken off us. Um you know, 03:54:56.960 --> 03:54:59.960 roads are congested, you know. Um and 03:55:00.479 --> 03:55:03.479 and we don't understand, we have no 03:55:04.080 --> 03:55:07.080 idea, right, what the cost 03:55:08.000 --> 03:55:10.136 of 03:55:10.160 --> 03:55:12.936 um fixing the infrastructure and the 03:55:12.960 --> 03:55:15.255 services and the schools and the local 03:55:15.279 --> 03:55:17.656 roads. We have no idea. Howe can we 03:55:17.680 --> 03:55:20.680 budget as a council when we have no idea 03:55:21.359 --> 03:55:24.215 what this is going to cost us? Our 03:55:24.239 --> 03:55:26.936 community deserves transparency around 03:55:26.960 --> 03:55:29.656 this. They do. 03:55:29.680 --> 03:55:32.680 Um, and so anyone that's not supporting 03:55:33.279 --> 03:55:35.736 this motion tonight, 03:55:35.760 --> 03:55:38.760 um, you know, is not supporting 03:55:38.960 --> 03:55:41.960 transparency and integrity around what's 03:55:42.080 --> 03:55:44.616 happening within our communities. 03:55:44.640 --> 03:55:45.335 Councelor, 03:55:45.359 --> 03:55:46.536 point of order. 03:55:46.560 --> 03:55:48.295 I was already going there. 03:55:48.319 --> 03:55:49.016 Council White, 03:55:49.040 --> 03:55:50.295 I think you know where I'm going with 03:55:50.319 --> 03:55:50.696 it. 03:55:50.720 --> 03:55:53.255 I I do. Um, I would ask that you 03:55:53.279 --> 03:55:54.856 withdraw the comment around counselors 03:55:54.880 --> 03:55:56.856 who are not supporting the motion this 03:55:56.880 --> 03:55:58.536 evening. they're acting in their way 03:55:58.560 --> 03:56:00.616 with whatever views they might have that 03:56:00.640 --> 03:56:02.936 they're not supporting transparency 03:56:02.960 --> 03:56:04.455 because I think that counselors around 03:56:04.479 --> 03:56:07.415 the table may find that offensive and I 03:56:07.439 --> 03:56:08.776 would suggest they have every right to 03:56:08.800 --> 03:56:10.295 with that comment. So I'd ask that you 03:56:10.319 --> 03:56:11.896 withdraw that comment. 03:56:11.920 --> 03:56:14.920 That's fine. Sure. But Howe where is the 03:56:15.439 --> 03:56:17.816 transparency if we can't tell our 03:56:17.840 --> 03:56:20.136 having an argument with you? It's just a 03:56:20.160 --> 03:56:21.576 withdraw the comment because you'd sat 03:56:21.600 --> 03:56:22.936 down and you'd finished. 03:56:22.960 --> 03:56:23.576 Sure. 03:56:23.600 --> 03:56:25.896 Thank you. 03:56:25.920 --> 03:56:28.536 I will now put the item to the vote. All 03:56:28.560 --> 03:56:30.936 those in favor 03:56:30.960 --> 03:56:33.415 that is council Agatan, councelor White, 03:56:33.439 --> 03:56:35.816 councelor O'Donnell, councelor Revanus 03:56:35.840 --> 03:56:38.056 and councelor Howe. 03:56:38.080 --> 03:56:40.455 All those against 03:56:40.479 --> 03:56:42.536 that is councelor Law, councelor 03:56:42.560 --> 03:56:45.560 Athanosopoulos, councelor Saab and myself 03:56:46.880 --> 03:56:49.335 and all those abstaining that is 03:56:49.359 --> 03:56:52.359 councelor Ashworth Collett. 03:56:57.439 --> 03:57:00.439 Why do you put me in this position? 03:57:03.520 --> 03:57:05.896 Given the number of counselors that have 03:57:05.920 --> 03:57:08.856 supported this motion, I'm going to use 03:57:08.880 --> 03:57:11.880 my casting vote in the positive and the 03:57:12.319 --> 03:57:14.136 motion is carried. 03:57:14.160 --> 03:57:16.136 Yes. 03:57:16.160 --> 03:57:18.536 We'll move on to given the time item 03:57:18.560 --> 03:57:21.016 12.7. Councelor Athanosopouloolis your 03:57:21.040 --> 03:57:22.616 motion 03:57:22.640 --> 03:57:25.640 as it appears in the agenda. Thank you. 03:57:25.760 --> 03:57:28.375 Seconded. Councelor Ashworth Collett. Do 03:57:28.399 --> 03:57:30.776 you wish to speak to the motion? 03:57:30.800 --> 03:57:33.335 Okay. Any councilors wishing to speak to 03:57:33.359 --> 03:57:36.359 the motion? 03:57:37.279 --> 03:57:39.415 Councelor Thanos, now's your chance to 03:57:39.439 --> 03:57:40.136 close. 03:57:40.160 --> 03:57:42.776 Yeah. Thanks. in in it speaks for 03:57:42.800 --> 03:57:44.536 itself. I think it's good that we look 03:57:44.560 --> 03:57:46.696 in the back in into the past. We also 03:57:46.720 --> 03:57:48.696 look over the next 10 years and where 03:57:48.720 --> 03:57:51.656 the spending is. I will just make one 03:57:51.680 --> 03:57:53.255 important point. There is a graph at the 03:57:53.279 --> 03:57:56.215 end of this and it would be unwise for 03:57:56.239 --> 03:57:59.239 me to be looking at this bundling up 03:57:59.359 --> 03:58:01.576 the three at the lower end and bundling 03:58:01.600 --> 03:58:03.896 up the three at the top end and doing a 03:58:03.920 --> 03:58:06.856 comparison of $1 for every $6.5 that is 03:58:06.880 --> 03:58:09.016 spent in one area to the other. Now, the 03:58:09.040 --> 03:58:11.415 what reason why it would be foolish of 03:58:11.439 --> 03:58:14.439 me to do that um and make a point of it 03:58:14.800 --> 03:58:17.096 in a sense of in a negative light for 03:58:17.120 --> 03:58:20.120 either area or whatnot is because 03:58:20.239 --> 03:58:22.536 ultimately we're councilors for the 03:58:22.560 --> 03:58:25.560 whole city of Kingston. It also doesn't 03:58:25.600 --> 03:58:27.656 necesSaabily look at the nuance of why 03:58:27.680 --> 03:58:29.896 those numbers are. 03:58:29.920 --> 03:58:32.616 And the purpose I bring that up because 03:58:32.640 --> 03:58:35.415 I think the purpose of what I'm seeking 03:58:35.439 --> 03:58:37.976 here is really an understanding of that 03:58:38.000 --> 03:58:39.896 overall numbers what we're spending 03:58:39.920 --> 03:58:41.175 where we're spending it and all those 03:58:41.199 --> 03:58:43.976 sorts of things but also other parts of 03:58:44.000 --> 03:58:46.696 what my call for report I should say 03:58:46.720 --> 03:58:49.096 notice of motion which is understanding 03:58:49.120 --> 03:58:52.120 Howe this these all affect council. So 03:58:52.239 --> 03:58:55.239 from the comments I made earlier about 03:58:55.600 --> 03:58:58.600 looking at item by item or area by area, 03:58:58.800 --> 03:59:01.800 they all seem very important to me. But 03:59:02.160 --> 03:59:04.455 Howe do we look at it from a context of 03:59:04.479 --> 03:59:07.175 the whole council? Can I give an example 03:59:07.199 --> 03:59:09.255 just so it it sits in everyone's mind? 03:59:09.279 --> 03:59:12.215 There is a park that sits between Wesler 03:59:12.239 --> 03:59:15.096 Road, Major Road, Center Road, Major 03:59:15.120 --> 03:59:17.096 Road, Clayton Road, Major Road, and 03:59:17.120 --> 03:59:19.816 Industrial Park on the other side. Is 03:59:19.840 --> 03:59:22.840 the only park in the area has lights on 03:59:24.080 --> 03:59:26.215 it has lights on one side, not on the 03:59:26.239 --> 03:59:29.239 other side. Our our solution to this is 03:59:31.120 --> 03:59:33.016 that people play sport and people can 03:59:33.040 --> 03:59:34.215 run when the sport's on, but what 03:59:34.239 --> 03:59:36.056 happens when the sport isn't on? And 03:59:36.080 --> 03:59:37.656 last I check on weekends there's not 03:59:37.680 --> 03:59:39.736 many night games. 03:59:39.760 --> 03:59:42.056 The advice would be that go run in the 03:59:42.080 --> 03:59:43.816 streets. Howe many of you would be 03:59:43.840 --> 03:59:46.840 comfortable that your kids or people of 03:59:46.880 --> 03:59:49.880 their family run in in your seats? 03:59:50.880 --> 03:59:53.880 in your streets I I should say. 03:59:54.560 --> 03:59:57.560 apologies. I'll be I I'll quick one 03:59:58.720 --> 03:59:59.255 minute. I 03:59:59.279 --> 04:00:01.496 I will get there. The point is the point 04:00:01.520 --> 04:00:03.896 is I could easily bring back a a notice 04:00:03.920 --> 04:00:05.976 of motion to request that lights are 04:00:06.000 --> 04:00:07.736 installed on the other side of the path 04:00:07.760 --> 04:00:09.096 so that all those people could run 04:00:09.120 --> 04:00:10.295 around it safely. 04:00:10.319 --> 04:00:12.136 I'm going to interrupt you for an 04:00:12.160 --> 04:00:13.496 extension of time because I still have 04:00:13.520 --> 04:00:14.776 to call the vote. So if you're going to 04:00:14.800 --> 04:00:16.136 keep talking 04:00:16.160 --> 04:00:17.976 can I 04:00:18.000 --> 04:00:19.896 10 minutes procedural. 04:00:19.920 --> 04:00:22.056 All those in favor oh sorry I need a 04:00:22.080 --> 04:00:23.335 seconder. Councelor Thanos 04:00:23.359 --> 04:00:24.056 I'll second it. 04:00:24.080 --> 04:00:26.856 All those in favor 04:00:26.880 --> 04:00:28.696 oh come on. Councelor Agatan. Councelor 04:00:28.720 --> 04:00:30.136 O'Donnell. Councelor Law. Councelor 04:00:30.160 --> 04:00:31.736 Athanasopoulos, councelor Ashworth, 04:00:31.760 --> 04:00:33.335 Collett, Councelor Saab, all those 04:00:33.359 --> 04:00:36.215 against. Councelor White, Councelor Howe, 04:00:36.239 --> 04:00:39.239 Councelor Evanas, and abstaining. 04:00:39.680 --> 04:00:41.816 That's it. Let's carry. 04:00:41.840 --> 04:00:43.816 Thank you. Keep going. 04:00:43.840 --> 04:00:45.496 Thank you. So, we I'll calm it down now. 04:00:45.520 --> 04:00:46.696 I'll take the whole 10 minutes. No, I'm 04:00:46.720 --> 04:00:48.936 just joking. Um I'll be I'll still make 04:00:48.960 --> 04:00:50.536 it quick. The point is I could bring 04:00:50.560 --> 04:00:52.455 that for for a decision here in the 04:00:52.479 --> 04:00:53.816 chamber. I don't think it would cost all 04:00:53.840 --> 04:00:55.736 that much money to actually get it done. 04:00:55.760 --> 04:00:57.736 But is that really what I should be 04:00:57.760 --> 04:01:00.295 doing? because that group of people in 04:01:00.319 --> 04:01:02.616 my view in my area are going to miss out 04:01:02.640 --> 04:01:04.776 and are penned in by areas that they 04:01:04.800 --> 04:01:07.175 can't cross over for action of a park 04:01:07.199 --> 04:01:08.616 facility. I don't think that's the right 04:01:08.640 --> 04:01:11.576 thing to do. So I'm not saying all these 04:01:11.600 --> 04:01:12.696 ones that have been brought are 04:01:12.720 --> 04:01:14.375 equivalent to that. Please don't make 04:01:14.399 --> 04:01:16.375 that equival equivalency. I'm not making 04:01:16.399 --> 04:01:17.736 I'm not drawing that distinction. I'm 04:01:17.760 --> 04:01:19.896 just trying to use an example. But the 04:01:19.920 --> 04:01:21.976 point that I'm making here is that the 04:01:22.000 --> 04:01:24.295 strategic approach and understanding 04:01:24.319 --> 04:01:26.455 what this accumulative effect of asking 04:01:26.479 --> 04:01:28.776 council to take action can have and 04:01:28.800 --> 04:01:30.856 hopefully this report will come back to 04:01:30.880 --> 04:01:33.880 us and help us understand it and 04:01:34.239 --> 04:01:35.976 implement the best possible practice 04:01:36.000 --> 04:01:38.056 moving forward. Thanks. 04:01:38.080 --> 04:01:40.616 Thank you, councelors. 04:01:40.640 --> 04:01:42.776 Any other Oh, sorry. No, you were 04:01:42.800 --> 04:01:44.056 seconding. 04:01:44.080 --> 04:01:45.896 Oh, that was closing. It was closing. 04:01:45.920 --> 04:01:47.415 Thank you. 04:01:47.439 --> 04:01:49.736 Forget these things. 04:01:49.760 --> 04:01:52.536 thank you. I will put that to the 04:01:52.560 --> 04:01:55.560 vote. All those in favor, 04:01:56.319 --> 04:01:59.319 that is carried unanimously. Thank you. 04:02:00.960 --> 04:02:02.696 And are there any items of urgent 04:02:02.720 --> 04:02:05.335 business? 04:02:05.359 --> 04:02:08.359 You almost had me. You almost had me. 04:02:09.279 --> 04:02:11.096 That is it. I will now close the meeting 04:02:11.120 --> 04:02:13.816 at 11:15. Thank you everyone. We got 04:02:13.840 --> 04:02:15.816 there. And thank you to members of our 04:02:15.840 --> 04:02:17.656 gallery and those watching on the live 04:02:17.680 --> 04:02:20.680 stream who are still with us.