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Welcome to tonight's ordinary council

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meeting tonight for Monday the 15th of

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December. I'd like to welcome all of

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those present in our gallery. I would

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also like to particularly welcome  to

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our gallery Bev MacArthur MP, member for

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Western Victoria region and shadow

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minister for local government as well as

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shadow minister for small business and

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leader of the opposition in the

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legislative council. That's a mouthful.

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Thank you for coming along and thank you

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also to those who are watching us at

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home on the live stream.

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Before we begin, I'd like to proudly

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acknowledge the Bunurong people of the

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Kulin Nation as the traditional owners

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and custodians of the land on which we

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are meeting and pay our respects to

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their Elders, past, present, and

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emerging.

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Also, just before we begin the agenda,

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for the purposes of transparency, this

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public meeting is being recorded and

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streamed live on the internet. The

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recording will be archived and available

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on council's website

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kingston.vic.gov.au

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However, for the purposes of public

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safety, this public meeting is also

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being recorded via CCTV.

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All care is taken to maintain your

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privacy. However, as a visitor in the

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public gallery, your presence may be

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recorded.

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I'd like to thank all members of the

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gallery and those viewing this meeting

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online for your attendance. However, I

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would also remind all attendees that

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disruption, interjection, and

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participation in the debate is

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prohibited and attendance at a council

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meeting is in an observatory capacity

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only unless otherwise directed by the

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chair.

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Please also note that the operating of

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photographic, audio, or video recording

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equipment or any other recording device

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is also prohibited during this meeting.

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For accessibility purposes, printed and

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electronic agendas via iPads are

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available in the gallery and closed

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captioning is also available for members

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of the public who are streaming this

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meeting via our website. Before we also

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commence the meeting, I will briefly

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explain the voting system that occurs at

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a council meeting. All votes taken

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during a council meeting are recorded in

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our official minutes which will you will

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see on the screen and will also be

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published on our website after the

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meeting. Voting is conducted by a show

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of hands and the outcome of a motion is

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determined by a majority of votes in

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favor with the chair having a casting

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vote if the result is tied. A counselor

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may cast a vote for or against a motion

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or alternatively choose to abstain from

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voting. However, under section 615E

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of the Local Government Act 2020, if a

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councelor does not cast a vote by

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choosing to abstain, that is counted as

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a vote against the motion when

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determining the result of a vote.

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We'll move on to item one this evening.

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We have apology from councelor Law and

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also councelor White this evening.

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Thank you.

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Can I have a motion that we received the

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apologies from councilor Law and White

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councilor Agirtan and seconded councelor

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O'Donnell

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if we can just amend that in the

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recommendation please. Governments.

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Thank you.

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All those in favor?

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That is carried unanimously. Thank you.

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We'll move on to item three, which is

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foreshadow declarations by councilors,

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officers, contractors of any conflicts

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of interest this evening.

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Are there any conflicts of interest?

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Councelor Saab.

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Thank you, Mayor. I'd just like to

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declare a general conflict of interest

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in item

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Sorry, I think it's I believe it's 8.5

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the quiddle reports.

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Thank you. We'll note that, Mr.CEO

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Mayor Oxley, I declare a conflict of

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interest in item 14.1. This is a matter

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that relates to my contract to

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employment.

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Thank you. We'll note those conflicts of

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interest.

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 we'll move to item four, which is

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petitions. And item 4.1, we have a

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petition read short stay accommodation

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property in Patterson Lakes. Councelor

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Howe, I believe you're presenting that

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petition.

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Thank you, Mayor Oxley. Yes, this petition

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is about ushort stay Airbnb policy in

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Patterson Lakes.

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Thank you. So, we move that we receive

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the petition, refer it to the CEO for

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response, and then notify the head

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petitioner of the outcome. Do I have a

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seconder? Council Agirtan. Thank you. Do

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you wish to speak to the motion?

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Yes, thank you

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this petition is in relation to a

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property in Patterson Lakes it is a

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 by the nature of the Patterson lakes

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waterway sound travels very very well.

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So  an Airbnb in this case can which

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which has been unruly and 

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the impact it can affect many many

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houses. In this case, it's about 23

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residents. And by the very nature of the

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Patterson Lakes waterway, where the 

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beaches allow open access, the Airbnb

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guests  take full advantage of that

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and certainly have an impact upon the

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residents. Thank you.

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Thank you, Council Howe. Councilor Agirtan

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reserve. Any other councilors on this

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matter?

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I will put that to the vote. All those

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in favor

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that is carried unanimously. Thank you.

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 we'll move back to item two which is

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the confirmation of the previous

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minutes.

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Thank you. Can I have a motion that the

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minutes be confirmed? Councelor

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O'Donnell and a second. Council Agirtan.

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Thank you.

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All those in favor

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that is carried unanimously.

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We'll move to item five which is

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delegates reports councelor statements

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and presentation of awards. And before I

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ask for counselors  for their

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counselor statements this evening, I

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would like to make a statement on behalf

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of council and that is that we are

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deeply shocked and saddened by the

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tragic events that have occurred in

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Bondi. On behalf of Kingston Council, I

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wish to extend our heartfelt condolences

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to the victims, their loved ones, and

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the entire Sydney community. Our

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thoughts are with all of those who are

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grieving and those whose lives have been

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changed forever by what is a senseless

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act of violence. We stand in solidarity

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with Jewish communities locally and

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right across Australia to reject all

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forms of anti-semitism.

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At times like these, it is vital that we

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come together as one community, united

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in compassion, resilience, and hope.

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Kingston joins with our nation in

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standing for peace and rejecting all

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forms of violence, hatred, and

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extremism.

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These acts do not define us. Instead,

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they strengthen our resolve to uphold

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the values of respect, inclusion, and

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harmony that do bind us all together.

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We would also like to acknowledge the

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professionalism and courage of emergency

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services and community members who acted

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swiftly and selflessly to protect lives

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and provide care in the face of

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unimaginable circumstances.

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Their bravery reminds us of the strength

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that exists within our communities, even

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in what is the darkest of times. In

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moments like these, community connection

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matters more than ever through our

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friends, our families, and the

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organizations that support us. If there

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is anyone in our community who is

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feeling distressed, please reach out for

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help. Lifeline is available, and there

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are many local services ready to assist

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you. No one should feel alone in this

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grief.

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Let us reaffirm our commitment to a

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community where kindness prevails over

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hatred and where peace triumphs over

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violence. Together we can ensure that

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Kingston remains a place of safety,

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compassion, and strength. Thank you.

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 councelor Saab, I believe you also

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wanted to make a council statement this

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evening.

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Thank you as the ward counselor of

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 two of the Hebrew congregations that

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exist in Kingston.  I also just wanted

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to express that I am  devastated by

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the horrific attack that took place in

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Bondi. this was an assault not only

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on Jewish Australians but on all

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Australians on our shared sense of

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safety, humanity and belonging. An

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attack on what we take pride on in this

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country. My heart goes out to the

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families who have lost loved ones in

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this heinous act and to all Jewish

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Australians and their family members who

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will be traumatized by these events for

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a long time to come. The pain, fear, and

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shock caused by this violence will run

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deep and linger well beyond today.  I

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have heard firstirhand accounts from

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personal friends who were in Bondi who

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were forced to hide under a surfboard,

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huddled together, embracing in silent

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tears.

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No one should ever experience that kind

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of terror in their own country. This was

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a horrific act of terrorism and I

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condemn it in the strongest possible

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terms.  I was on the phone earlier

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today this morning um with  to the

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rabbi from one of my local congregations

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in Moorabbin who had just received word 

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that more friends that he knew were also

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tragically killed.

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To our Jewish Australians and in

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particular to Kingston's Jewish

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residents, your city, as the mayor said,

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stands with you. We stand firmly against

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anti-semitism, hate, and division in all

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its forms. And we must do whatever is

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necessary to stamp out 

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anti-semitism wherever and whenever it

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rears its ugly head. And we must do so

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with absolute resolve.

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Today, I also spoke with several

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residents across our city of Jewish

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heritage and faith one conversation

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in particular has stayed with me and

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that was of Sarah a mother of two

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young children under the age of three

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and she spoke to me about her deep

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resolve and principled commitment to

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standing  in defiance of hate and

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in unity with her community. Yet, she

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told me that she could not justify

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placing herself or her children in

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danger by attending the Hanukkah event or

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openly displaying her own Jewish

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identity. I understand why she feels

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this way but it does not make it

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fair. It does not make it right. It is

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not fair that a parent in our city must

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weigh their children's safety against

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their freedom to practice their faith or

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express who they are. It is not fair

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that fear is allowed to dictate how

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someone lives their daily life. And is

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not fair that Jewish Australians are

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made to feel they must hide parts of

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themselves simply to feel safe.

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I also want to acknowledge the

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extraordinary bravery of Ahmed Ahmed, a

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Syrian Australian man who courageously

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confronted the attacker and helped save

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countless countless lives. His heroism

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is a powerful reminder that compassion

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and courage transcend background faith

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and identity. In the aftermath of this

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tragedy, I've already seen Islamic

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phobic responses emerge, and I urge

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everyone to reject this. We must call

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out terrorism, hate, and despicable acts

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for exactly what they are. But we must

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never paint entire communities with the

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same brush. These were deplorable

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individuals committing the most

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disgusting acts, and they do not

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represent the whole communities.

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No, now more than ever, we must come

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together as Australians. This is a time

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for unity, not division. These are and

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this is a defining moment in our history

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and how we choose to move forward will

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determine the country that we want to be

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in and I just um request mayor if

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possible through you and the chair after

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these statements all the statements

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tonight if other councils are speaking

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if we can have just a minute of silence.

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Thank you.

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Thank you councelor Saab.  councelor

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Athanasopoulos.

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 thanks, mayor.

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 for those that don't know already, I

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 I worked alongside

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 Jewish leaders

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in the city of Glen Eira.

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um the very very strong and beautiful

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quite frankly community that I um

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represented and

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 worked with in my four eight years

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sorry there. Um

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 devastation is probably not enough of

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a strong word  to describe

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how I feel, let alone how how some of

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the people that I worked with in that

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community feel.

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Um,

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we have to come together as a community

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to support one another,

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to support that particular community.

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And I personally, and I know everyone in

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the city of Kingston and my colleagues

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here would would stand together in

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support for our beautiful Jew Jewish

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community.

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Um,

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no one in this country

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should have to go to any event,

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especially an event that is about love,

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color,

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light over darkness,

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and be concerned whether their child

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would come out of that alive.

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Everyone can have all different opinions

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about a whole bunch of range of things.

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that that is part of the discourse of

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almost being a human.

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But once you step into that realm of

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taking innocent life,

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you have gone into a completely

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different space.

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I want to take this moment myself to

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really call on all governments to do

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everything that they can to stop to to

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stamp out I should say anti-semitism,

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Islamophobia,

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racism, all of it at all levels from the

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most minute level of racism

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to the worst of it.

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Because if we can't stamp about the

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little stuff,

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it will lead to what we saw yesterday.

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To make it personal, I've seen racial

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vilification of my heritage

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just recently and taken screenshots of

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it.

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It is unacceptable that us as a

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community can just walk by

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what we see or what we hear or what we

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read, let alone go out and champion it.

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And I call on everybody when you see it,

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call it out and stop it. My love to the

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Jew to the Glen Eira community and the

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wider Jewish community and I'll stand by

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you every single time. And excuse me,

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I'm just going to take a few moments

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after I've finished speaking. Thanks.

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Thank you councelor Thanosopoulos.

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Councelor O'Donnell.

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Thank you and through you chair. Thank

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you for your very thoughtful words. As

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we approach the Christmas and Hanukkah

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period, I wish to acknowledge that this

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season of celebration and reflection

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comes at a time of deep sadness for many

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in our community following the tragic

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events in Bondi. We pause to remember

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those who have lost their lives, their

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families, and their loved ones, and

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acknowledge the profound impact that

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this has had across our city and well

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beyond. At times like this, the

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importance of unity, compassion, mutual

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respect, cannot be overstated. The

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values reflected in this season, light,

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hope, peace, and care for one another,

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are values that bind us together as a

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community, regardless of our background

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or our beliefs. In moments of grief and

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uncertainty, may you choose unity over

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division, compassion over fear, and

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connection over isolation.

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I encourage everyone where possible to

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take a time with their loved ones to

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support one another and to reaffirm our

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shared commitment to kindness,

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understanding and a united community.

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I will be standing there tomorrow night

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with the Jewish community, our Jewish

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community, and I will stand right beside

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them tomorrow night in Mialik as we

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celebrate the festivities that this time

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of the year brings to us. I will stand

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there with absolute honor and passion

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and care for the people in our community

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who have been so horribly devastated.

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I wish all of those celebrating a merry

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Christmas and a happy Hanukkah and may

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the coming weeks bring healing,

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reflection, and hope to all.

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Thank you, Council O'Donnell, Council H.

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Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate the

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comments from everybody else tonight,

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and I don't wish to to try and re

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reiterate those. I'm I've been saddened

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by this so much and we're all impacted

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by the Bondi event. The attacks actually

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on us all and I'm taking stock of what

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it means to be Australian.

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It's time to reflect on the people who

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actually do make us safe.

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They put themselves in a position of

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risk to protect us and make us safe.

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They don't ask for anything in return.

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the police, the ambos, the lifeguards

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who make us safe, the community

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bystanders who do what's required

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without actually thinking it through.

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It's also a time to stop being part of

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hate or inciting it.

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Make a stand on what you will do,

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what you can control to make a

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difference. Whether it's facelessly

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attacking by social media or

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administrators allowing untored

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comments, this is our opportunity to

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simply make a stand on who we are, what

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you will not be part of. We shape our

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environment, our country, who we are and

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who we will be. Thank you.

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Thank you, councelor. How are there any

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other council statements or delegates

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reports this evening?

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There being none, thank you councilors.

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Can I have a motion that those councelor

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statements be received, councelor How,

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and seconded councelor Reanitus.

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All those in favor

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that is carried unanimously.

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We'll now move on to public question

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time. Mr. Theo.

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Thank you, Mayor Oxley, and thank you

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for those who submitted questions this

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evening. Please note the governance

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rules have been applied to all

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questions. There are a total of 42

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questions submitted for tonight's

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ordinary council meeting. Five questions

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have been disallowed in accordance to

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the governance rules on the grounds that

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three questions are deemed to be

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derogatory of or to embarrass a

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counselor, a member of council staff, or

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a member of the community. One question

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is repetitive of a question already

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answered at a previous council meeting.

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One question is deemed to be

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objectionable. Please note that any

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preamble submitted with questions will

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not be read out.

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Commence our questions this evening.

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This question from or two questions from

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Louise. Could the CFO please provide an

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itemized breakdown of all costs incurred

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by Kingston Council to date in relation

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to the engagement of the council

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appointed monitors Mr. Tanner and Mr.

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Watson. Specifically, I request the

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total cost for each monitor, including

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their daily rate, the number of days

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build each month, travel and

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accommodation expenses, superanuation,

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and any other related or sunundry

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expenses charged under their engagement.

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And secondly, additionally, please

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provide the total expenditure to date

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for each monitor separately. I'll ask

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council's chief finance officer, Mr.

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Bernard Rowan, to respond.

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Thank you. And through you, Mayor Oxley.

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Council has processed one invoice dated

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to November 2025 from Mr. Watson as a

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municipal monitor and in relation to the

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period October 2025.

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The invoice comprises 58.9 hours at the

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minister's approved daily rate of $1,335

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and calculated hourly rate of $175.66

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for a total cost of $10,346.37.

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Additional to this daily rate will be

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the superenuation at 12% or $1,24155.

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The invoice is also for reimbursement of

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accommodation, parking, road tolls, ,

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and meals at a total of $1,668.28.

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The total cost is $12,14.65

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65 as invoiced plus $1,24156

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for superenuation and a total cost to

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council of $13,25621.

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A further invoice from Mr. Watson has

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been recently received and is being

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considered and reviewed by officers.

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Council is yet to be invoiced by Mr.

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Tenner.

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The next question is from Fraser.

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Referring to the SRL draft precinct

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structure plan figure 17, better

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connections active transport shows the

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C1 strategic cycling corridor shared

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user path on the rail corridor from the

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Heather Grove crossing to Southland

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joining the bridge over Bay Road to SRL

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and Hyde stations. The SRL

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implementation plan has no SU on the

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rail corridor and instead proposes cycle

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paths on Nepian Highway from

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Chesterville Road to Wickcham Road to be

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constructed by Department of Transport

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and Planning. Does Kingston accept and

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support the SRL structure plan or the

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implementation plan for cycle paths on

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the P Highway? I'll ask council's

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manager of city development, Jaclyn

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Murdoch, to respond.

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Thank you and through you, Mayor.

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Council has long advocated for a

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continuous strategic cycling corridor

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along the rail corridor forming a

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broader part of the Frankston to CBD

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route, including in its submission to

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the SRLA's exhibited structure plans in

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March this year. It has also raised

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concern with the lack of certainty

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provided by the implementation plan.

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This month, SRLA publicized updated

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designs for Sir William Fry Reserve that

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shows a separated cycle and walking path

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through the Hyatt Gworth site connecting

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station street Hyatt to Sir William Fry

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Reserve. Council supports the active

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transport outcomes this link would

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provide.

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The next question from Fraser. Does

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Kingston Council support the SRL plan to

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reduce Bay Road to single lanes or work

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with Bayside to provide the alternative

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of the C2 SUP on Park Road? Again, I ask

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council's manager, city development,

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Jaclyn Murdoch, to respond.

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Thank you. And through you, mayor.

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Council understands that the plan to

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alter the cross-section of Bay Road to

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enable a cycling path formed part of the

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minister's approval under the EES or the

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environmental effects statement. Council

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has not engaged with the SRL rla's

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proposal to narrow Beat Bay Road as it

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falls within the Bayside city council

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municipality.

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The next two questions are from Luke

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with the continued population. Oh,

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questions about council's priorities.

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Investment in community sport with

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continue population growth across

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Kingston. How does council determine

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which local tennis clubs re receive

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funding to support participation in

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facility development? And two, noting

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the funding previously provided to Caram

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Tennis Club, nearby suburb. What

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pathways or requirements would enable

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Patterson Lakes Tennis Club to be

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considered for future council support in

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line with council's community and active

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recreation strategies? I'll ask

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council's general manager infrastructure

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and open space Samantha Krl to respond.

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Thank you and through you may sport

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provision planning is centered around

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the strategic inputs of population data,

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sport participation numbers, trends and

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changes and provision catchment areas.

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Councilors commence the development of a

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new tennis pickle ball and paddle tennis

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strategy which will consider these

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relevant strategic inputs and ultimately

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guide future decision making and

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investment in both the facility

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development and participation

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initiatives across the city. The

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strategy will be developed through

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engagement with Kingston based tennis

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clubs, collaboration with tennis

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Victoria and community feedback. The

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future provision and investment at

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Liamont Reserve will be guided by

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findings and recommendations outlined in

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this future tennis strategy and will

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consider demand and future growth in the

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region site suitability for

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infrastructure development and

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associated costs.

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The next question is from Matthew. Why

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is council avoiding the reconciliation

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plan noting it was deferred without

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reason from the last meeting? I'll ask

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council's general manager community

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strengthening Kate Waters to respond.

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Thank you. And through you, mayor. The

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draft reconciliation strategy was

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presented at the council meeting in

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November where council resolved to

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receive a report on this matter

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following a councelor briefing to allow

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for further discussion. Councilors have

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since been offered further briefings and

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opportunity for further discussion. The

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draft reconciliation strategy is item

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8.2 of tonight's agenda.

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The next question is from Scott. In

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relation to the development of the

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helellactory in southern road men can

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council advise whether it was provided

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any reason by the department of

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transport and planning when the DTP

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required council offices to remove the

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application and other phase one

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pre-application requests from the city

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of Kingston's online planning register.

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I'll ask council's manager city

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development Jaclyn Murdoch to respond.

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Thank you. And through you, mayor.

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Council officers were advised that

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pre-applications submitted through the

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development facilitation pathway or DFP

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program must not be made publicly

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available and officers were requested by

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DTP planning officers to remove it from

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the portal. Council officers were not

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provided with a specific reason by the

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Department of Transport and Planning

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officers.

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The next question is from Gavin Re.

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Public question time. Given the current

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approach seems very subjective and

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controlling, would council perhaps

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consider a word limit of say 200 or 250

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words as a working solution, thereby

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enabling reasonable preamble and wording

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which would then enable questions to not

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lose their essential context. I'll ask

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council's general manager customer and

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corporate support Mr. Dan Hogan to

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respond.

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Thank you and through the chair. Thank

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you for your question Gavin. While

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recognizing that many options exist to

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vary public question time, there are no

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current plans to undertake a revision of

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the governance rules applying to council

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meetings. However, please be assured

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that every attempt is made to ensure the

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fundamental premise of a question may

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still be understood while also complying

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with the rules. Although recognized

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that's not always entirely possible.

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We've consolidated the following

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questions from Cameron and Simon

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together and we'll have one response as

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they relate to the same topic. Two

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questions from Cameron. Does council

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have any plans to rebuild three new

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courts where the old courts were at

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Patterson Lakes Tennis Club? And is the

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council willing to provide funding and

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how much to improve the club rooms andor

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tennis courts? The two questions from

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Simon. Is there any evidence or records

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of consultation, discussions or meetings

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between Kingston Council and Patterson

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Lakes Tennis Club about how to address

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the claimed identified issues of the

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tennis courts in the two condition

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reports. one being the 2 MH report mid

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2024 and the other I personally have

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never seen or heard of until last week.

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The second question was there any

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concerns or consideration by council as

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to the negative health and wellbe to

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club members by the actions of A the

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former tennis coach for profit also

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manager president of the not for-p

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profofit Patterson Lakes Tennis Club in

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a blatant conflict of interest position

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and B by the sudden without warning de

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demolishment

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of three of our courts on 26th August

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2025 one of which was most members

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favorite court i.e. Number six, I'll ask

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council's general manager infrastructure

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and open space Samantha Kr to respond.

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Thank you and through you mayor. As per

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the response to the earlier question,

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the future provision and investment at

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Lemon Reserve will be guided by findings

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and findings and recommendations in the

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new tennis pickle ball and paddle tennis

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strategy. Regular meetings were held

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with the committee of the Patterson

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Lakes Tennis Club regarding tennis court

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audits and recommendations dating back

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to May 2025. The initial court condition

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audit recommended that all six courts

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should be closed and a second more

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detailed audit was undertaken. This

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audit confirmed the closure of courts

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four to six due to the safety hazards

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identified. These courts were considered

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to have reached the end of their

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serviceable life. This was reported to

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the tennis club committee and tennis

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Victoria in July 2025. Council has

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continued to communicate and engage with

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the newly elected committee of the

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Patterson Lakes Tennis Club and Tennis

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Victoria to provide updates and support.

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The next are two authors, Rosyn and

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Rose. The questions have been

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consolidated together as they relate to

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the same topic. First two questions from

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Roslin. Can the CEO confirm with the

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council has granted council a law a

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leave of absence that would relate to

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section 35 subsection 1E of the local

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government act 2020? and two, if yes,

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which council meeting date and

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resolution number granted the leave and

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where is it recorded in the minutes?

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Questions from Rose, is council law

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receiving her full council allowance,

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i.e. her $3,499

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monthly allowance while on extended

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leave from being a counselor till next

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year? And two, why is the reason given

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council law for her leave of absence,

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noting the council's not provided a

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reason in any of its correspondence?

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I'll ask council's general manager

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customer and corporate support, Dan

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Hogan, to respond.

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Thank you and through the chair. Council

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has not granted a period of leave via

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resolution of council for which there is

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no legal obligation. All counselors are

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currently receiving the category 3 base

00:30:23.360 --> 00:30:25.096
counselor allowance as set by the

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Victorian Independent Remuneration

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Tribunal. There is no legal obligation

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for counselors to disclose reasons for

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absence or leave.

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Next two questions are from Jagod. Can

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you provide a description of the role

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and the number of staff in the advocacy,

00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:41.736
communication, and engagement department

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of the city of Kingston? And can council

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give a total cost for the staff in this

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department? I'll ask council's general

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manager, customer corporate support, Mr.

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Hogan, to respond.

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Thank you. And through the chair, the

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advocacy, communications, and engagement

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department helps the organization to

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deliver positive, clear communications

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to our community. This includes our

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eight websites, many social media

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channels, media services, design work,

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promotional campaigns, speeches, the

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Kingston York City newsletter, e

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newswsletters, and delivering over 100

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consultations each and every year to

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promote community participation and help

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counselors have confidence in

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decision-m.

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The requested staffing information is

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available on the Kingston website. And

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as also noted on pages 42 to 43 of

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Kingston's 2526 budget, the advocacy,

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communication, and engagement department

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has 21.6 full-time equivalent positions

00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.559
and a total staff cost of $2.9 million.

00:31:37.679 --> 00:31:39.416
Next question is from Katherine. Can

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council please list separately the

00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:42.375
number of properties in the private,

00:31:42.399 --> 00:31:44.936
commercial, and industrial sectors that

00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.456
will be acquired within the structure

00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:48.216
plan boundary? I'll ask council's

00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:49.655
manager of city development, Jaclyn

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Murdoch, to respond.

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Thank you. And through you, Mayor.

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Council does not have access to the

00:31:55.360 --> 00:31:57.015
figures associated with the number of

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properties in private, commercial or

00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:00.856
industrial sectors within the planning

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declaration areas around each station as

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they straddle multiple municipalities.

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The next two authors have been

00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:10.535
consolidated together that is Katherine

00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:12.296
and Jill as their questions relate to a

00:32:12.320 --> 00:32:14.456
similar topic. Question from Katherine.

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Can council also list separately the

00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:17.976
number of properties in the private,

00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:19.976
commercial or industrial sectors within

00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:23.000
the SRLA planning declaration? And can

00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:24.775
council provide the details in the total

00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:26.696
number of properties in the suburban

00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:27.976
rail loop or other state government

00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:29.655
bodies will be required to purchase

00:32:29.679 --> 00:32:31.176
within the city of Kingston as shown in

00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:32.775
the documents as supplied by the

00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:34.696
Victorian state government to the city

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of Kingston. Again, I ask Miss Murdoch

00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.936
to respond to that question.

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Thank you. And through you, mayor.

00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:42.616
Council does not have access to the

00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:44.375
figures associated with the number of

00:32:44.399 --> 00:32:46.456
properties in private, commercial, or

00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:48.296
industrial sectors within the planning

00:32:48.320 --> 00:32:51.015
declaration areas around each station as

00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.976
they straddle multiple municipalities.

00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.336
No properties within the city of

00:32:55.360 --> 00:32:57.176
Kingston are nominated to be acquired

00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:59.655
for the purposes of SRL's structure

00:32:59.679 --> 00:33:02.456
planning process. We understand a public

00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:04.456
acquisition overlay has been proposed

00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.936
within the Clayton SRL precinct.

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However, this falls within the city of

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MES.

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The next two questions are from Zoe. Is

00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.976
councelor aware that last week weed

00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:17.976
spraying was being done by a female

00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:19.336
council worker contractor in the

00:33:19.360 --> 00:33:21.255
Heatherton estate? And when asked what

00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:22.775
she was spraying, she replied she did

00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.015
not know. And secondly, is council also

00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:26.775
aware this female worker was not wearing

00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:28.375
any protective gear or masking

00:33:28.399 --> 00:33:30.056
whatsoever and yet was spraying

00:33:30.080 --> 00:33:31.655
voluminous amounts of a strong blue

00:33:31.679 --> 00:33:34.216
colored spray liquid roundup glyophate

00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.616
on even single weeds. I'll ask general

00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:38.216
managers infrastructure and open space

00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:40.775
Samantha Cruel to respond.

00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:42.696
Thank you and through you may council

00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:44.616
undertakes proactive weed management

00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.015
throughout our open spaces. This can

00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:48.856
include hand weeding, controlled burning

00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:50.856
and herbicides depending on the type and

00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:53.576
location of the weeds. All council staff

00:33:53.600 --> 00:33:55.255
applying herbicides wear appropriate

00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:57.336
personal protective equipment. In the

00:33:57.360 --> 00:33:58.936
photos you supplied, the person is

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wearing closed toe shoes, long pants and

00:34:01.600 --> 00:34:03.655
gloves. Blue dye is used to indicate

00:34:03.679 --> 00:34:06.679
where chemicals have been applied.

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The next  group of questions have been

00:34:10.560 --> 00:34:12.135
bundled together. They are from Jeff and

00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:13.976
Vera as they relate to a sim similar

00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.536
topic. Question from Jeff. How can the

00:34:16.560 --> 00:34:18.055
grants committee justify spending

00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:20.615
$10,000 on a ground calling themselves

00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.335
the men's table where only 13 to 19 men

00:34:23.359 --> 00:34:24.936
met once a month for dinner for a total

00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:26.696
of eight months only to discuss men's

00:34:26.720 --> 00:34:28.216
health. Whilst other groups who were

00:34:28.240 --> 00:34:29.976
granted far less money have had much

00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:31.496
greater participation numbers and more

00:34:31.520 --> 00:34:33.736
effective community spread and impact.

00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:35.736
Two questions from Vera. Is it not true

00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.895
that the men's table grant has the least

00:34:37.919 --> 00:34:39.736
participation rate within the community

00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.760
costing rate pays a minimum of $526 per

00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:44.536
participant and represents the least

00:34:44.560 --> 00:34:47.560
value for council money and is simply is

00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.736
simply reporting the fact that these men

00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:51.016
showed up for eight months at eight

00:34:51.040 --> 00:34:53.256
dinners regarded as an adequate equator

00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.335
spending results and community benefit

00:34:55.359 --> 00:34:58.216
for the huge $10,000. I'll ask council

00:34:58.240 --> 00:34:59.656
general manager committee strengthening

00:34:59.680 --> 00:35:02.296
Kate Waters to respond.

00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:04.136
Thank you. And through you, mayor. The

00:35:04.160 --> 00:35:05.976
Kingston grants program supports

00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:07.736
projects that respond to different needs

00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:09.815
across the community. Each funded

00:35:09.839 --> 00:35:11.575
project plays an important role whether

00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:13.815
it reaches large number of people or

00:35:13.839 --> 00:35:15.496
works more intensively with smaller

00:35:15.520 --> 00:35:17.656
groups. Applications are assessed

00:35:17.680 --> 00:35:19.335
against criteria in the grant's

00:35:19.359 --> 00:35:21.815
guidelines such as quality, capacity to

00:35:21.839 --> 00:35:23.736
deliver, and alignment with program

00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:25.815
objectives, not just participant

00:35:25.839 --> 00:35:27.976
numbers. We f with funding

00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.296
recommendations made to council. The

00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.856
men's table works with small groups but

00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:34.936
creates positive impact by giving men a

00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.176
safe place to connect and talk about

00:35:37.200 --> 00:35:39.095
life challenges. The program is

00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:40.776
evidence-based and supported by the

00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:42.696
National Mental Health Commission with

00:35:42.720 --> 00:35:44.696
evaluations conducted in partnership

00:35:44.720 --> 00:35:47.335
with Monese University. Programs like

00:35:47.359 --> 00:35:49.095
these matters because data shows that

00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:50.776
men are more likely to experience

00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:53.176
isolation and are less likely to seek

00:35:53.200 --> 00:35:55.416
help. Supporting men's well-being

00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:57.656
strengthens families and communities.

00:35:57.680 --> 00:35:59.335
Some of the most meaningful outcomes

00:35:59.359 --> 00:36:02.136
come from these small trustbased groups.

00:36:02.160 --> 00:36:04.456
They reduce isolation and create strong

00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.480
social connections.

00:36:07.520 --> 00:36:09.496
Next question is from Simon. I refer to

00:36:09.520 --> 00:36:11.976
the Kingston Grants Program 202425 aqu

00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.936
quids report appendix 1 item three Drews

00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:16.696
Community Charity for Victoria Fate

00:36:16.720 --> 00:36:19.256
$25,000 which reports 2 and a half

00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:21.416
thousand Kingston participant numbers a

00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:22.616
figure I believe is false and

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statistically improbable. Has council

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verified the 2,500 Kingston participant

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figure or is it self-reported by the

00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.335
Drews and what specific evidence has

00:36:31.359 --> 00:36:33.496
council sought to substantiated? I was

00:36:33.520 --> 00:36:34.776
council's general manager committee

00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.335
strengthening Kate Waters to respond.

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Thank you and through you mayor. The

00:36:39.040 --> 00:36:40.856
participant numbers included in all

00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.880
granted quiddles are self-reported.

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The next question is also from Simon. In

00:36:50.240 --> 00:36:52.696
relation to FOI 171, have council

00:36:52.720 --> 00:36:54.376
officers received any instructions or

00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.296
advice from either of the monitors in

00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:57.736
relation to the production of documents

00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.760
sought by this FOI.  Simon, I'll just

00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:02.936
u need to advise that  we weren't able

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to gather the information in prep the

00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:06.616
meeting. We'll take your question on

00:37:06.640 --> 00:37:07.815
notice and we'll provide a written

00:37:07.839 --> 00:37:10.616
response to you. The next qu next two

00:37:10.640 --> 00:37:13.256
questions are from Rosemary. As council

00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:14.776
has signed an MOAU with the Suburban

00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.016
Rail Loop Authority, why can council not

00:37:17.040 --> 00:37:18.856
get the SRL to send qualified animal

00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:20.936
rescuers to rescue the wildlife left

00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.016
homeless and disorientated, including

00:37:23.040 --> 00:37:25.095
now several families of ducklings by the

00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:26.456
works on the once environmentally

00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.696
significant but now moonscaped hesitant

00:37:28.720 --> 00:37:31.656
train line site? And why did the SRL

00:37:31.680 --> 00:37:33.095
need to clear fell the trees that once

00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:35.016
lined the train yard site? And what are

00:37:35.040 --> 00:37:36.936
they doing? What are they going to do

00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:38.696
about the dust that is now, among other

00:37:38.720 --> 00:37:41.095
things, making residents lives hell?

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I'll ask council's general manager

00:37:42.640 --> 00:37:44.136
infrastructure and open space Samantha

00:37:44.160 --> 00:37:46.776
Krl to respond.

00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:49.575
Thank you. Through you, mayor. Sla has

00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:51.815
powers as set out in the major transport

00:37:51.839 --> 00:37:54.536
projects facilitation act 2009 and does

00:37:54.560 --> 00:37:56.376
not need any permissions from council to

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build, remove, or undertake any works,

00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.335
including those that might impact fora.

00:38:01.359 --> 00:38:03.815
Council's recent with SRLA does not

00:38:03.839 --> 00:38:06.296
relate to this legislation. As part of

00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:09.320
SRLA planning obligations set out in

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environmental performance requirements,

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SRLA is required to implement forer

00:38:14.160 --> 00:38:15.815
management measures to minimize impacts

00:38:15.839 --> 00:38:18.616
on fauna. Additionally, SRLA must

00:38:18.640 --> 00:38:20.696
undertake a forner assessment and report

00:38:20.720 --> 00:38:22.616
on it regularly to the independent

00:38:22.640 --> 00:38:25.335
environmental auditor. The trees were

00:38:25.359 --> 00:38:27.256
removed by SRLA to undertake their

00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:29.656
works. SRLA is required to develop and

00:38:29.680 --> 00:38:31.656
implement an environmental air quality

00:38:31.680 --> 00:38:34.216
and dust management plan for each site

00:38:34.240 --> 00:38:37.240
in consultation with the EPA.

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The next two authors questions we are

00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:42.216
bundling together as the response is

00:38:42.240 --> 00:38:43.575
generic for the two of them. The

00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:44.936
questions are from Julia and from

00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:46.936
Deborah. Questions from Julia, there's

00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:49.016
two of them. Are John Tanner AM and John

00:38:49.040 --> 00:38:50.856
Watson acting as monitors at Hobson's

00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.095
Bay at the same time? And if so, are

00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:55.815
they also billing Hobson's Bay $1,300 a

00:38:55.839 --> 00:38:58.839
day each on top of their $1,300 a day

00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.256
payments from Kingston Council? And from

00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:02.776
Deborah, has any Kingston Council made

00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:04.136
an application to the Fair Work

00:39:04.160 --> 00:39:05.656
Commission against any one of the

00:39:05.680 --> 00:39:08.055
monitors placed into Kingston Council? I

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would ask both Deborah and Julia to

00:39:09.680 --> 00:39:12.296
direct their questions to  the Local

00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:13.575
Government Victoria and the Fair Work

00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:15.575
Commission as they do not relate to a

00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:18.599
local government matter.

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That concludes public questions for this

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evening. Mayor Oxley.

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Thank you, Mr. CEO, and thank you as

00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:26.216
always to all of our submitters of our

00:39:26.240 --> 00:39:28.616
questions this evening. As always, we

00:39:28.640 --> 00:39:30.456
value your questions each and every

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month.

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We'll now move on to item 7.1, which is

00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:36.536
the town planning application decision

00:39:36.560 --> 00:39:39.016
for November 2025. We have a

00:39:39.040 --> 00:39:40.456
recommendation on the screen. Do I have

00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:42.456
a motion, councilors, councelor

00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:44.456
O'Donnell, and a second to councelor

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How?

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I don't believe there's any discussion

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required.

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I will put that to the vote. All those

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in favor?

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That is carried unanimously.

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We'll move to item 7.2 which is the

00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:02.920
planning application for 43 to 45 West

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Road Clayton South. I don't have anyone

00:40:05.359 --> 00:40:07.095
on behalf of the objector or the

00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.119
applicants listed.

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Is there anyone?

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No.

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In which case, councilors, do we have a

00:40:17.680 --> 00:40:20.680
motion? Council

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Agirtan the officer recommendation. Thank

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you. Do I have a seconder? Councelor

00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:29.095
O'Donnell. Do you wish to speak to the

00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.016
motion? Council Agirtan. Council

00:40:31.040 --> 00:40:32.856
O'Donnell. Reserve. Are there any

00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:34.055
councilors wishing to speak to this

00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.079
motion?

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There being none, I will put that to the

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vote. All those in favor?

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That is carried unanimously. Thank you.

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We move to item 7.3 which is the

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planning application at 200 Edith Road

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Chelsea Heights. Council Ashworth

00:40:55.520 --> 00:40:56.536
Colette move the office of

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recommendation.

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Thank you and a seconder. Councelor

00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:01.496
O'Donnell.

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Council Ashworth Colette. Do you wish to

00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:04.295
speak to the motion?

00:41:04.319 --> 00:41:05.656
No reserve. Thank you.

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Reserve. Councelor O'Donnell.

00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:10.616
Thank you, Mayor. Um I just want to

00:41:10.640 --> 00:41:12.616
point out how excited the community is

00:41:12.640 --> 00:41:15.640
about this project. Um, as much as we

00:41:16.160 --> 00:41:17.815
may feel that it is long overdue, it is

00:41:17.839 --> 00:41:19.256
going to be a nice relief to not have to

00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:20.536
put your gum boots on to get up and down

00:41:20.560 --> 00:41:22.856
Edith Road. Thank you.

00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:24.616
Thank you, Council O'Donnell. Are there

00:41:24.640 --> 00:41:27.640
any other counselors on this matter?

00:41:28.640 --> 00:41:30.295
Council Ashlet, your hand is still up.

00:41:30.319 --> 00:41:31.335
I'm just checking. Did you want to

00:41:31.359 --> 00:41:32.376
close?

00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:34.536
Yes, please. That'd be great. Yeah, this

00:41:34.560 --> 00:41:36.616
is wonderful. This is complex where it

00:41:36.640 --> 00:41:37.976
is at the moment with Melbourne water

00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:41.000
vic roads and being adjar

00:41:43.200 --> 00:41:45.896
um listed wetlands. Um there's been many

00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:48.456
a time that I have driven through here

00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.256
and seen all sorts of pedestrians trying

00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.416
to avoid the floods that happened here.

00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:55.896
Once was even a group of young

00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:57.736
preschoolers, about 20 of them. It

00:41:57.760 --> 00:41:59.815
really concerned me. So I think this is

00:41:59.839 --> 00:42:01.976
wonderful in infrastructure to put into

00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:04.055
the community and it's done in a really

00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:05.815
thoughtout way that's sensitive to the

00:42:05.839 --> 00:42:07.656
wetlands and the environment and I'm

00:42:07.680 --> 00:42:08.856
really looking forward to this getting

00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:10.136
done. Thank you.

00:42:10.160 --> 00:42:12.055
Thank you councelor Ashworth Colette. If

00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:13.656
there are no other counselors I will put

00:42:13.680 --> 00:42:16.680
that to the vote. All those in favor

00:42:17.680 --> 00:42:20.680
that is carried unanimously. Thank you.

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Item 7.4 which is the planning

00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.216
application at 240 Kingston Road

00:42:26.240 --> 00:42:28.536
Clarinda. On behalf of the objectors, I

00:42:28.560 --> 00:42:30.536
have Sheamus Fraser, who I believe is

00:42:30.560 --> 00:42:33.560
joining us online.

00:42:34.160 --> 00:42:35.976
Do we know if Sheamus is in the meeting?

00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.000
Yes. Thank you.

00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:56.280
Hi Sheamus, can you hear us?

00:42:57.760 --> 00:42:58.776
Yes, I can.

00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:01.656
Wonderful. You'll see on the screen

00:43:01.680 --> 00:43:03.256
you'll have a timer there that will be

00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:04.696
four minutes and then whenever you are

00:43:04.720 --> 00:43:07.016
ready, you can address council.

00:43:07.040 --> 00:43:08.856
Fantastic. Thank you for for having me.

00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.880
Um I I just had a number of um I guess

00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:13.736
 questions or objections just

00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:15.736
regarding the the proposed 

00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:18.055
development here. um they're broken down

00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.616
into vehicle access to the property, um

00:43:20.640 --> 00:43:22.696
premature earthworks happening prior to

00:43:22.720 --> 00:43:24.536
suitable approval,  and then

00:43:24.560 --> 00:43:27.560
vegetation concerns. Um so with the

00:43:27.839 --> 00:43:30.839
proposed  vehicle access, um I've I've

00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:33.815
got concerns that there's a bus stop

00:43:33.839 --> 00:43:36.295
almost directly  next to the proposed

00:43:36.319 --> 00:43:39.319
crossover. Um and I've I've got concerns

00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:42.760
with 150 um customers coming and leaving

00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.176
the property all at the same time. um

00:43:45.200 --> 00:43:47.736
that happening directly next to where a

00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:49.095
bus is going to be pulling over at

00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.736
several times throughout  any any day.

00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.760
Um I I I I see that causing issues um

00:43:55.839 --> 00:43:58.376
with the proposed um crossover not

00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.016
having any provision to stop cars

00:44:01.040 --> 00:44:03.656
turning right onto Kingston Road. Um

00:44:03.680 --> 00:44:05.416
there there's a proposed sign saying

00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.440
left turn only. Um but outside of a

00:44:08.720 --> 00:44:10.055
single sign, there isn't too much to

00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:12.055
stop cars actually making the decision

00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.079
to illegally turn left. Um, and so I

00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.815
think if if if we're looking at a dual

00:44:17.839 --> 00:44:20.055
carriageway, a bus stop right there, and

00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.216
no meaningful provision to stop cars

00:44:22.240 --> 00:44:25.240
making a right-hand turn. Um, if we add

00:44:25.680 --> 00:44:27.575
on to that, cars that are traveling from

00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:29.416
west to east, turning right onto the

00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:31.976
property off Kingston Road, I I just see

00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:33.496
that it's it's quite a significant

00:44:33.520 --> 00:44:35.736
concern. Um, in some of the responses

00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:37.656
I've I've got, um, I've been told that

00:44:37.680 --> 00:44:40.536
it's been adequately considered, um, and

00:44:40.560 --> 00:44:42.136
that they've been told by the applicant

00:44:42.160 --> 00:44:44.295
that it's unlikely all customers will

00:44:44.319 --> 00:44:46.216
arrive at the same time or depart at the

00:44:46.240 --> 00:44:48.456
same time. However, as someone with

00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:50.536
experience in the industry, I I I

00:44:50.560 --> 00:44:52.456
disagree with with the statement. I I

00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.480
feel that um it it should be taken as

00:44:56.160 --> 00:44:58.055
worst case scenario. If if all those

00:44:58.079 --> 00:44:59.656
customers do arrive or depart at the

00:44:59.680 --> 00:45:01.335
same time, what does that mean for the

00:45:01.359 --> 00:45:04.359
traffic implications? Um the the

00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.856
secondary concern is just regarding

00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.016
quite significant earthworks taking

00:45:09.040 --> 00:45:12.040
place prior to um a CHMP being approved

00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.599
and then pri prior to any  storm water

00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:19.656
management plan being approved. Um I I

00:45:19.680 --> 00:45:21.976
worry that the the earth works that it's

00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.000
taking place currently um will

00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:27.815
potentially disrupt um articles of

00:45:27.839 --> 00:45:30.776
cultural sensitive sensitivity. um I

00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.136
worry that it will affect the storm

00:45:32.160 --> 00:45:33.575
water management of the of the property

00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:35.896
before any meaningful um plan has been

00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.776
put together. Um and then my my final

00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:40.776
concern is with with the planting

00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:42.696
schedule that's been proposed um

00:45:42.720 --> 00:45:45.720
currently there a grand total of 39 um

00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:48.055
additional trees proposed for the for

00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:51.079
the property. Um and the on on the most

00:45:52.560 --> 00:45:55.095
recent um planning documents um they've

00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.176
been listed as tube stock. So the the

00:45:57.200 --> 00:45:59.736
smallest of small plants which for for

00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.456
tube stock to be planted um it's it's

00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:04.696
unlikely that they'll survive. Um so I

00:46:04.720 --> 00:46:06.696
have concerns that the currently

00:46:06.720 --> 00:46:08.376
proposed planting schedule is rather

00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:09.976
inadequate for the size of the property

00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:12.295
and and for the um aesthetic changes

00:46:12.319 --> 00:46:15.176
that'll be taking place um with a large

00:46:15.200 --> 00:46:17.095
car park with safety netting going

00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:18.616
around the the vast majority of the

00:46:18.640 --> 00:46:21.335
property. Um I do feel that a meaningful

00:46:21.359 --> 00:46:23.496
planting schedule is is necessary to

00:46:23.520 --> 00:46:25.976
soften that aesthetic um for for the

00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:28.536
local residents. Um so those those are

00:46:28.560 --> 00:46:30.456
my primary concerns and thank you for

00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:31.815
for the time.

00:46:31.839 --> 00:46:33.416
Thank you for your submission this

00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:35.896
evening. If you're able to just pop

00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:37.815
yourself on mute and turn your camera

00:46:37.839 --> 00:46:39.335
off when you're able to that would be

00:46:39.359 --> 00:46:41.736
great and we will move forward with the

00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:43.976
applicant. I have on behalf of the

00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:47.000
applicant Mitch Sich. If you'd like to

00:46:47.040 --> 00:46:48.376
come forward, someone will let you

00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:51.400
through the gate.

00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.776
And if you'd just like to take a seat,

00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:04.295
if you press the button, yeah, just

00:47:04.319 --> 00:47:06.136
there. If you press the button on the

00:47:06.160 --> 00:47:08.696
microphone, it will illuminate red. You

00:47:08.720 --> 00:47:10.456
will also see your timer up on the

00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:12.216
screen as well. And you have four

00:47:12.240 --> 00:47:13.896
minutes whenever you are ready.

00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:15.496
Thank you, mayor. , dear councilors,

00:47:15.520 --> 00:47:15.976
good evening.

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If you just pull the microphone just

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down that little bit more. Perfect.

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Can you hear me now? Is that better?

00:47:19.520 --> 00:47:20.055
Much better.

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Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. , dear

00:47:21.680 --> 00:47:23.335
councils, good evening. Appreciate the

00:47:23.359 --> 00:47:25.176
opportunity to speak today regarding the

00:47:25.200 --> 00:47:27.335
proposed outdoor paintball recreation

00:47:27.359 --> 00:47:29.496
facility on Kingston Road. This

00:47:29.520 --> 00:47:31.095
application not only presents an

00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.016
exciting initiative for the community,

00:47:33.040 --> 00:47:35.575
but also aligns with planning relevant

00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:37.656
planning strategies aimed at fostering

00:47:37.680 --> 00:47:39.256
local recreation and enhancing green

00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:41.656
wedge areas. The property totals just

00:47:41.680 --> 00:47:43.656
over 2.4 hectares. It's currently

00:47:43.680 --> 00:47:45.656
underutilized. Has historically been

00:47:45.680 --> 00:47:47.656
used for some form of agriculture and

00:47:47.680 --> 00:47:49.976
market gardens. Features existing

00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:51.256
structures that will be largely

00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:54.136
repurposed for the new new facility. The

00:47:54.160 --> 00:47:56.536
site's located to adjacent adjacent to

00:47:56.560 --> 00:47:58.456
major roads including the Dingley bypass

00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:01.095
and Kingston Road effectively creating

00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.896
an island site. The proposal centers on

00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:05.575
transforming the disused land into an

00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:07.815
open air paintball facility which aims

00:48:07.839 --> 00:48:09.176
to provide a unique recreational

00:48:09.200 --> 00:48:11.416
opportunity for small to medium groups

00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.095
looking to celebrate special events such

00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:14.936
as weddings, birthdays, and corporate

00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.416
functions. There's also soft paintball

00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.095
for kids, which rival paintball

00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:20.696
competitors in the industry don't

00:48:20.720 --> 00:48:23.720
currently offer. Key details include

00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:26.456
hours of operation between 8:30 a.m. and

00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.416
10 p.m. 7 days a week, a max a maximum

00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:31.896
capacity of 120 patrons at any given

00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:34.696
time along with 12 staff members. The

00:48:34.720 --> 00:48:36.696
proposal seeks to repurpose existing

00:48:36.720 --> 00:48:38.295
structures such as the existing house

00:48:38.319 --> 00:48:40.616
for administration and a gun safe and

00:48:40.640 --> 00:48:43.335
toilet block within existing sheds. An

00:48:43.359 --> 00:48:45.496
important important feature of the

00:48:45.520 --> 00:48:46.776
design is a lightweight transparent

00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:49.095
knitting system to ensure safety while

00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.736
pres pre preserving visual openness

00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:54.295
across the property. U my client

00:48:54.319 --> 00:48:56.136
currently operates a paintball venue in

00:48:56.160 --> 00:48:57.896
Oakland and is well established in the

00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.616
industry running games for over 18 years

00:49:00.640 --> 00:49:02.136
with a strong record of safety and

00:49:02.160 --> 00:49:04.376
professionalism. We understand that

00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:06.136
objections have been received by rival

00:49:06.160 --> 00:49:08.535
paintball operators in the area and we

00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:10.696
urge council to see these as purely

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commercially motivated. The Planning and

00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.016
Environment Act 1987 gives councils the

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power to reject objections which have be

00:49:16.720 --> 00:49:19.416
made to primarily secure or maintain a

00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:21.896
direct or indirect commercial advantage

00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:23.496
which we consider to be clear in this

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regard. The objections have made the

00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:27.656
objectors have raised matters that are

00:49:27.680 --> 00:49:29.496
fundamentally untrue and lack foundation

00:49:29.520 --> 00:49:31.416
in planning grounds. In respect to the

00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:33.335
matters raised to nine relation to

00:49:33.359 --> 00:49:35.335
traffic specifically, we note that

00:49:35.359 --> 00:49:37.575
access has been provided and approved by

00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.656
department of transport and planning to

00:49:39.680 --> 00:49:41.335
Kingston road and also council of

00:49:41.359 --> 00:49:42.776
traffic engineers with support of the

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application.

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In terms of how the proposal more

00:49:46.720 --> 00:49:48.055
broadly aligns with the green wage

00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:50.535
management objectives, um we note that

00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.136
the Kingston green wage management plan

00:49:52.160 --> 00:49:54.776
encourages recreational facilities serve

00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:56.936
both local and regional needs. The

00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:58.616
paintball facility falls well within

00:49:58.640 --> 00:50:00.535
these guidelines, offering a low impact

00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.456
recreational activity that supports

00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:04.776
community engagement while maintaining

00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.016
agricultural potential of the area.

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Although we do know that the

00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.136
agricultural potential of the area is

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particularly low in this area. The site

00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:14.776
in a green wedge zone which is not

00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:16.776
solely limited to farming activities, it

00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:18.456
allows for a variety of recreational and

00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:20.696
tourism related use uses as identified

00:50:20.720 --> 00:50:23.720
by the zone's purpose. The facility is

00:50:23.839 --> 00:50:25.736
designed to fit harmoniously within this

00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:27.896
context by utilizing existing structures

00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.535
and a lightweight transparent netting.

00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:31.896
Importantly, the development will not

00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:33.335
disrupt neighboring agricultural

00:50:33.359 --> 00:50:35.575
activities. As said previously, the site

00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:37.416
surround and surrounding area is not

00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:39.335
considered high quality agricultural

00:50:39.359 --> 00:50:41.335
land, noting that the suburban rail

00:50:41.359 --> 00:50:43.095
loops to the north of the site and

00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:44.616
there's also previous landfills and

00:50:44.640 --> 00:50:47.335
surrounding areas.

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Instead, the provides means to sustain

00:50:49.359 --> 00:50:51.016
local employment and diversify

00:50:51.040 --> 00:50:52.616
recreational options for residents,

00:50:52.640 --> 00:50:54.216
addressing the growing demands for such

00:50:54.240 --> 00:50:56.535
facilities. Importantly, no significant

00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:58.936
removal of native vegetation will occur

00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:00.776
and a comprehensive landscape scheme is

00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.575
proposed as part of the proposal.

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In summary, the proposed paintball

00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:07.335
facility not only aligns with the

00:51:07.359 --> 00:51:09.496
community's recreational aspirations,

00:51:09.520 --> 00:51:11.416
but also adheres to planning policies by

00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:13.575
promoting sustainable development in

00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:15.976
non-aggricultural uses. We urge the

00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:17.416
council to support the application for

00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:19.416
an open air paintball facility that will

00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.216
enhance a underutilized site. Thank you

00:51:22.240 --> 00:51:24.696
for considering this proposal.

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Right on time.

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Yeah.

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Thank you very much for your submission

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this evening.

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Thank you.

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Thank you

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councilors. Do I have a motion?

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Councelor O'Donnell. The office of

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recommendation.

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Thank you. a seconder. Council Agirtan.

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Councelor O'Donnell, do you wish to

00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:49.095
speak to the motion?

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Yes, I do. And through you, mayor. Um,

00:51:52.640 --> 00:51:55.640
whilst I appreciate

00:51:56.160 --> 00:51:58.136
both Mitch and Sheamus's words this

00:51:58.160 --> 00:52:01.160
evening, um, I do hold a level of

00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.295
concern for the the netting that

00:52:04.319 --> 00:52:07.319
surrounds, um, the paintball field, ,

00:52:08.640 --> 00:52:11.640
for one of a better word. um would be in

00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.960
my opinion quite detrimental to wildlife

00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.079
um of bats, birds

00:52:20.240 --> 00:52:23.095
um and along those lines. However, all

00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:25.416
the planning needs have been met um by

00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:27.896
the applicant.  so yes, whilst I do

00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:29.335
express a great deal of concern for the

00:52:29.359 --> 00:52:30.535
wildlife that are potentially going to

00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:33.416
be affected by this, um with everything

00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:34.696
being met, I do understand the

00:52:34.720 --> 00:52:35.896
Department of Transport needs have been

00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:38.856
met along with it. Kingston's own

00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.496
transport um

00:52:41.520 --> 00:52:43.815
requirements. So I will be supporting

00:52:43.839 --> 00:52:46.456
but I am very concerned for the wildlife

00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:48.295
that this may affect and I'll be keeping

00:52:48.319 --> 00:52:49.896
an eye on this moving forward in the

00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.376
future. Thank you councelor O'Donnell.

00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.335
Council Agirtan reserve any other

00:52:55.359 --> 00:52:58.359
councilors on this matter

00:53:01.040 --> 00:53:02.856
there being none I will put that matter

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to the vote. All those in favor

00:53:08.160 --> 00:53:10.136
that is councelor Agirtan, councelor

00:53:10.160 --> 00:53:12.376
O'Donnell, councelor Remnus, councelor

00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:14.376
How, Councelor Sar, councelor

00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:16.295
Thanosopoulos, councelor Hill and

00:53:16.319 --> 00:53:19.319
myself. All those against

00:53:19.520 --> 00:53:21.656
councelor Ashworth, Colette and that is

00:53:21.680 --> 00:53:23.896
carried.

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Thank you.

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We'll move to item 7.5 which is the

00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:31.736
planning application at 1A Carowana

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Drive Dingly Village. I don't have

00:53:33.680 --> 00:53:35.575
anyone listed on behalf of the objectors

00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:37.256
or the applicant. So councilors do I

00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.280
have a motion?

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Council Agirtan the officer

00:53:44.319 --> 00:53:47.319
recommendation. Thank you. A seconder.

00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:49.416
Councelor O'Donnell.

00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:50.535
Do you wish to speak to the motion?

00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:52.456
Council Agirtan. Reserve. Councelor

00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:54.856
O'Donnell. Reserve. Are there any other

00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:57.880
councils on this matter?

00:53:59.200 --> 00:54:00.535
There being none, I will put that to the

00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:03.559
vote. All those in favor?

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That is carried unanimously. Thank you.

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Move to item 7.6, which is the amendment

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C227 at 11 Remo Street, Menon. Councelor

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Hill, the officer recommendation.

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Yes. Thank you, madam.

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Thank you. you. Do I have a seconder?

00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.176
Councelor How?

00:54:27.200 --> 00:54:30.200
Councelor Hill.

00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:33.575
Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um, look, this

00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:36.599
is  a pretty straightforward one. Um,

00:54:36.720 --> 00:54:39.720
it is the sort of missing link in that

00:54:39.839 --> 00:54:42.839
Mento reserve precinct. Um it is that

00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:46.119
last  piece of land  that we're

00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:49.095
hoping to  at some point in future

00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.119
acquire in order to complete the um 

00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:55.815
you know the what we have envisaged for

00:54:55.839 --> 00:54:58.839
that for that precinct and um we've gone

00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:01.736
through the process  we're now at a

00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:04.616
point  where we're looking to adopt

00:55:04.640 --> 00:55:07.335
the amendment as exhibited and

00:55:07.359 --> 00:55:09.416
ultimately put it to the minister  for

00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:12.440
planning for approval. though um I think

00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.535
most people know the history of this one

00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:17.559
so I won't speak at great length but um

00:55:17.839 --> 00:55:20.295
yeah very excited and whilst this

00:55:20.319 --> 00:55:23.319
doesn't um I guess  give us any

00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:27.016
immediate certainty it it really does

00:55:27.040 --> 00:55:29.416
help the men residents who no doubt have

00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:31.335
been watching this one for many years

00:55:31.359 --> 00:55:33.976
and  at some point in time it means

00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:36.696
that we can fulfill  the the vision

00:55:36.720 --> 00:55:38.936
for that precinct so thank you

00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:41.815
thank you councelor Hill councelor how

00:55:41.839 --> 00:55:43.656
reserve any other councils on this

00:55:43.680 --> 00:55:46.680
matter

00:55:48.720 --> 00:55:50.295
there being none I will put that to the

00:55:50.319 --> 00:55:53.319
vote all those in favor

00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:56.760
that is carried unanimously thank you

00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:58.936
we'll move to item 8.1 which is the

00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:00.456
visual arts and heritage collections

00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:02.456
policy and guidelines councelor

00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:04.616
O'Donnell

00:56:04.640 --> 00:56:05.736
the officer recommendation

00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:06.376
yes

00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.400
thank you do I have a seconder

00:56:09.680 --> 00:56:11.896
councelor of anus.

00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:14.616
Council O'Donnell.

00:56:14.640 --> 00:56:17.640
Thank you and through you, Mayor. Um, it

00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.535
has been an interesting past month

00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:22.376
whilst I

00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:25.016
deferred this.

00:56:25.040 --> 00:56:27.736
Yeah. Less than a month ago, I must

00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.976
remind myself. , and very busy. And I

00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:31.656
do thank those that have reached out to

00:56:31.680 --> 00:56:34.295
me um to express their concerns. There's

00:56:34.319 --> 00:56:35.496
a few points that I want to make this

00:56:35.520 --> 00:56:36.936
evening to make things a little bit

00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.016
clearer. and I'm sorry to those that I

00:56:39.040 --> 00:56:40.535
haven't had the time to get back to,

00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:43.016
especially today.  Mondays are an

00:56:43.040 --> 00:56:45.736
extremely busy day for us. Um the visual

00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:47.496
arts and heritage policy and guidelines

00:56:47.520 --> 00:56:49.335
establishes council's first formal

00:56:49.359 --> 00:56:51.496
position on managing our art and

00:56:51.520 --> 00:56:53.815
heritage collections. This is a policy

00:56:53.839 --> 00:56:56.295
that needs to come before council and

00:56:56.319 --> 00:56:58.376
actually put processes and procedures in

00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:00.535
place so that we can stop things that

00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:02.376
have happened in the past from happening

00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:04.055
and actually put some guide well

00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:06.535
policies right there and guidelines that

00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:09.496
council can operate too. These documents

00:57:09.520 --> 00:57:12.520
are grounded in sector best practice

00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.976
ensuring ethical, transparent and

00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:17.976
considered decision- making for

00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.936
collection items moving forward. Those

00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:22.936
words alone actually make me feel

00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:24.775
reassured about the decision that I'll

00:57:24.799 --> 00:57:26.535
be making tonight. Adoption of the

00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:28.136
policy and the guidelines will enable

00:57:28.160 --> 00:57:29.815
council to make consistent and

00:57:29.839 --> 00:57:31.736
well-informed decisions regarding both

00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:34.535
existing and future collection items. I

00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.416
have received multiple emails, phone

00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:39.896
calls, social media messages, and

00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:42.616
feedback concerning the Leon collection

00:57:42.640 --> 00:57:44.535
and the destruction of certain heritage

00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:46.216
material. I want to reassure the

00:57:46.240 --> 00:57:48.856
community that neither issue has is

00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:51.815
directly related to tonight to tonight's

00:57:51.839 --> 00:57:54.696
decision, excuse me, to endorse these

00:57:54.720 --> 00:57:57.720
documents. Since September, officers

00:57:57.760 --> 00:57:59.335
have been working with the beneficiaries

00:57:59.359 --> 00:58:01.575
of the late Fred Labon's estate to

00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:03.496
support the appropriate return of the

00:58:03.520 --> 00:58:05.575
collection items.

00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:07.896
The beneficiaries are still determining

00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:10.295
their preferred outcome. officers will

00:58:10.319 --> 00:58:13.319
continue to work toward a respectful sol

00:58:13.680 --> 00:58:16.055
resolution that aligns with best

00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:18.775
practices. Earlier this year, as part of

00:58:18.799 --> 00:58:21.016
an ongoing outgoing heritage collection

00:58:21.040 --> 00:58:23.496
audit, some photocopy material was

00:58:23.520 --> 00:58:25.736
destroyed. I will acknowledge that which

00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:27.815
caused concern in the community. While

00:58:27.839 --> 00:58:29.896
retaining photo copies of material

00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:31.815
readily available elsewhere is not

00:58:31.839 --> 00:58:33.815
considered best practice, officers

00:58:33.839 --> 00:58:35.896
acknowledge the community value of these

00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:38.616
items and are actively engaging with

00:58:38.640 --> 00:58:41.016
interested parties to address future

00:58:41.040 --> 00:58:43.976
concerns. Kingston's passion for

00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:47.000
heritage and art is a tremendous asset.

00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:49.815
I commend all community members who take

00:58:49.839 --> 00:58:52.839
the action and interest in this space.

00:58:53.040 --> 00:58:54.936
Council looks forward to continuing a

00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:57.016
positive collaboration under a clear

00:58:57.040 --> 00:59:00.040
policy framework that supports informed

00:59:00.160 --> 00:59:02.936
and transparent collect collection

00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:05.736
decisions. So please be assured by to

00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:07.736
all of those who have reached out to me

00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:10.376
and a number of other counselors. I

00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:13.400
actually do feel completely at ease this

00:59:13.520 --> 00:59:15.976
evening whilst I support the policy

00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.775
going forward. And please don't hesitate

00:59:18.799 --> 00:59:20.616
at all to continue to reach out for me

00:59:20.640 --> 00:59:22.616
regarding your concerns and if there's

00:59:22.640 --> 00:59:24.936
anything that we can work towards going

00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:27.496
forward and  have the best outcomes

00:59:27.520 --> 00:59:29.976
for all of us. Thank you. Thank you

00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.696
councelor O'Donnell. Councelor Reanitas

00:59:32.720 --> 00:59:34.456
reserve. Any other councils on this

00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.480
matter?

00:59:39.680 --> 00:59:41.256
There being none, I will put that to the

00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:44.280
vote. All those in favor

00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:48.440
that is carried unanimously. Thank you.

00:59:48.640 --> 00:59:51.016
Item 8.2, the draft reconciliation

00:59:51.040 --> 00:59:53.496
strategy. Councelor O'Donnell,

00:59:53.520 --> 00:59:55.496
an amended motion, I believe.

00:59:55.520 --> 00:59:55.976
Thank you.

00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.616
Thank you.

00:59:58.640 --> 01:00:00.055
Can you just verify that's the right

01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:03.079
one?

01:00:10.240 --> 01:00:12.775
Thank you. Do I have a second? Council

01:00:12.799 --> 01:00:15.176
Agirtan.

01:00:15.200 --> 01:00:18.136
Councelor O'Donnell.

01:00:18.160 --> 01:00:20.376
Thank you. And through you again, mayor.

01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:23.400
Um, in regards to this draft

01:00:23.839 --> 01:00:25.736
reconciliation, I have been contacted

01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:27.335
again throughout the community and had

01:00:27.359 --> 01:00:29.575
multiple discussions in regards to

01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:31.815
concerns that residents do have and then

01:00:31.839 --> 01:00:34.696
in regards to support that the community

01:00:34.720 --> 01:00:37.720
is moving forward. After attending the

01:00:38.160 --> 01:00:40.616
MAV conference in October earlier this

01:00:40.640 --> 01:00:43.640
year, um I had a few instances that

01:00:44.319 --> 01:00:47.095
became quite concerning to me that I

01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:49.176
don't necessarily feel has been captured

01:00:49.200 --> 01:00:52.200
in this draft strategy. Um and hence why

01:00:52.720 --> 01:00:55.720
I deferred this draft reconciliation

01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:59.000
strategy last month and hence my

01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:02.055
amendment this evening. Um, I have a

01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.936
real concern for what potential has come

01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.016
our way because history already tells us

01:01:07.040 --> 01:01:08.616
the state government just loves a little

01:01:08.640 --> 01:01:10.535
bit of cost shifting onto local

01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:12.936
government that is heavily restricted in

01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:14.775
the our financial ability to achieve

01:01:14.799 --> 01:01:17.095
very much at all. So tonight, I'm making

01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:19.976
this amendment to put in place as much

01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:22.295
as I possibly can, even though I am only

01:01:22.319 --> 01:01:24.055
the little person down here in local

01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:26.535
government, but potentially protect us

01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:28.775
from what state government, federal

01:01:28.799 --> 01:01:31.416
government or treaty may impose on the

01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:33.575
city of Kingston moving forward. So

01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:35.176
whilst I'm happy to support the draft

01:01:35.200 --> 01:01:36.775
reconciliation strategy going out for

01:01:36.799 --> 01:01:39.016
community consultation, please I've done

01:01:39.040 --> 01:01:41.016
this before and sometimes maybe felt a

01:01:41.040 --> 01:01:42.616
little hesitant about it. Please reach

01:01:42.640 --> 01:01:44.696
out to me to discuss further but I'm

01:01:44.720 --> 01:01:47.176
moving this tonight to make sure that we

01:01:47.200 --> 01:01:49.656
can protect ourselves to some level of

01:01:49.680 --> 01:01:52.680
any huge financial consequences that may

01:01:53.040 --> 01:01:56.040
come our way with renaming or any

01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:59.335
directive coming from state federal

01:01:59.359 --> 01:02:01.815
government or treaty. So, I'm asking for

01:02:01.839 --> 01:02:03.335
the support of my fellow counselors this

01:02:03.359 --> 01:02:05.335
evening to just put a safeguard in place

01:02:05.359 --> 01:02:08.136
to to protect us from any cost shifting

01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:10.696
which has happened a million times over.

01:02:10.720 --> 01:02:12.535
Excuse my exaggeration on numbers there,

01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:15.095
but it happens a lot. And yes, I look

01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:16.376
forward to seeing what the community has

01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:17.976
to come back for come back with in the

01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:19.016
future. Thank you.

01:02:19.040 --> 01:02:20.535
Thank you, councelor O'Donnell. Council

01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:23.496
Agirtan reserve. Any other counselors on

01:02:23.520 --> 01:02:26.520
this matter?

01:02:28.319 --> 01:02:29.815
There being none, I will put that to the

01:02:29.839 --> 01:02:32.839
vote. All those in favor,

01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:37.880
that is carried unanimously. Thank you.

01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:42.216
Item 8.3, which is the response to

01:02:42.240 --> 01:02:44.136
resolution female participation in

01:02:44.160 --> 01:02:46.376
community leadership roles. Do I have a

01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:49.400
motion?

01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:51.496
Moved. Councelor Agirtan. Seconded.

01:02:51.520 --> 01:02:53.335
Councelor O'Donnell.

01:02:53.359 --> 01:02:54.616
Councilor Agirtan, do you wish to speak

01:02:54.640 --> 01:02:57.335
to the motion? Councelor O'Donnell.

01:02:57.359 --> 01:02:59.176
reserve. Are there any other counselors

01:02:59.200 --> 01:03:02.200
on this motion?

01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:04.856
I will just add before I put it to the

01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:07.016
vote  that I would like to thank the

01:03:07.040 --> 01:03:08.696
officers for their work in this space.

01:03:08.720 --> 01:03:10.616
They really have been driving this over

01:03:10.640 --> 01:03:13.496
the past couple of years and I'm very

01:03:13.520 --> 01:03:14.856
grateful to see this progressing

01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:17.880
further. So, please pass on our thanks.

01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:21.256
I will put that to the vote. All those

01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:24.280
in favor

01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:27.400
that is carried unanimously.

01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:31.015
Item 8.4, the Kingston grants program

01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:32.936
funding recommendations for round two of

01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:35.960
the bannual grants. A motion councilors,

01:03:41.839 --> 01:03:44.376
that's moved. Council Agirtan seconded.

01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:47.015
Councelor O'Donnell. Thank you.

01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:48.136
Councelor Agirtan, do you wish to speak

01:03:48.160 --> 01:03:50.775
to the motion? Councelor O'Donnell.

01:03:50.799 --> 01:03:52.216
Thank you. Are there any other

01:03:52.240 --> 01:03:55.240
counselors on this motion?

01:03:56.720 --> 01:03:57.976
There being none, I will put it to the

01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.000
vote. All those in favor,

01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.920
that is carried unanimously.

01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:07.256
We move to item 8.5, which is the

01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:09.256
Kingston grants program acquitts for

01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:12.280
2425. Councelor Sab.

01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:14.216
Thank you, Mayor. I would just like to

01:04:14.240 --> 01:04:16.456
declare a general conflict of interest

01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:19.480
in this item as I  sit as an executive

01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:22.775
member of one of the recipients um who

01:04:22.799 --> 01:04:24.616
have filled out an quiddle form for this

01:04:24.640 --> 01:04:27.640
grant or for this grant these grant

01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:29.815
stream.

01:04:29.839 --> 01:04:32.839
Thank you councelor sub.

01:04:46.240 --> 01:04:49.240
Thank you, councelor O'Donnell.

01:04:50.160 --> 01:04:53.160
An amended motion.

01:04:56.240 --> 01:04:57.496
Can you just double check that that is

01:04:57.520 --> 01:05:00.520
as it appears on the screen, please?

01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:14.055
Thank you. Do I have a seconder? Council

01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:17.079
Agirtan. Thank you, Council O'Donnell.

01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:21.896
Thank you through you again, Mayor Mayor

01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:24.216
Oxley. Um

01:05:24.240 --> 01:05:26.856
it is no secret that I have been part of

01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:29.256
the committee that was formed

01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:30.936
throughout this year where we met on

01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:33.960
multiple occasions um to how we could be

01:05:36.240 --> 01:05:38.856
better in our grants program how we can

01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.736
make it more transparent

01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:44.216
absolutely making it crystal clear in

01:05:44.240 --> 01:05:46.216
further reflection of going through that

01:05:46.240 --> 01:05:47.496
process and I'm really proud of the

01:05:47.520 --> 01:05:50.216
outcomes that we've come to um I have

01:05:50.240 --> 01:05:52.376
further concerns which have been raised

01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:54.616
throughout the community that contacted

01:05:54.640 --> 01:05:56.856
me over moving into this meeting once

01:05:56.880 --> 01:05:58.936
the agenda was  released to the

01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:01.960
public. And we need to make this the

01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:06.760
most transparent, the most secure

01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:09.736
process that we can possibly

01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:11.656
ever come across, which means it's going

01:06:11.680 --> 01:06:14.680
to be a work in motion. I think moving

01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:16.856
down this line of making sure that our

01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:19.656
acquittles are as much held to the

01:06:19.680 --> 01:06:21.416
standards that we're going to continue

01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:23.896
with the grants process within itself.

01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:25.815
Um the outcomes also have to be

01:06:25.839 --> 01:06:28.839
achieved. So I am heavily supporting the

01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:32.616
movement of this amendment this evening

01:06:32.640 --> 01:06:35.640
to this motion amended motion sorry um

01:06:35.839 --> 01:06:38.136
and I look forward to working together

01:06:38.160 --> 01:06:41.095
on what we can achieve moving into the

01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:44.119
new year because I am going to make sure

01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:47.335
in my responsibility as a counselor for

01:06:47.359 --> 01:06:50.359
the city of Kingston that we are rock

01:06:51.359 --> 01:06:54.359
solid tight on our grants program and

01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:56.936
our quiddles. Thank you.

01:06:56.960 --> 01:06:58.376
Thank you, councelor O'Donnell. Council

01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:01.400
Agirtan.

01:07:02.319 --> 01:07:05.015
Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, similar to

01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:07.176
concerns that councelor O'Donnell have

01:07:07.200 --> 01:07:09.335
expressed, I've been contacted by

01:07:09.359 --> 01:07:12.359
members of my community um, expressing

01:07:12.720 --> 01:07:15.015
concern regarding some of the numbers

01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:18.039
which um, as , we heard earlier today

01:07:19.680 --> 01:07:22.616
were self assessment, self-reported

01:07:22.640 --> 01:07:24.936
numbers. Somebody went as far as looking

01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:26.775
into the census data and they were

01:07:26.799 --> 01:07:28.856
concerned that the number of people

01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:31.880
participating actually exceeds the

01:07:32.160 --> 01:07:35.160
number as per census. So I think um I

01:07:35.200 --> 01:07:37.815
completely agree that provided all the

01:07:37.839 --> 01:07:40.456
history of this um various matters in

01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:43.015
relation to grants we want our community

01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:45.976
that we are absolutely transparent and

01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:48.616
accountable for every scent. That is

01:07:48.640 --> 01:07:50.136
all. Thank you.

01:07:50.160 --> 01:07:51.976
Thank you councelor Agirtan. Are there

01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:55.000
any other counselors on this motion?

01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:01.575
There being none, councelor Donald, do

01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:03.736
you wish to close?

01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:05.256
Thank you. I will put that to the vote.

01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:08.280
All those in favor,

01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:11.575
that is councelor Agirtan, councelor

01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:13.976
O'Donnell, councelor Revitus, councelor

01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:15.736
How, Councelor Ashworth, Colette,

01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:18.760
councelor Thanosopoulos, and myself. All

01:08:18.799 --> 01:08:20.616
those against

01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:22.616
and abstaining,

01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:24.616
councelor Hill and that motion is

01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:26.135
carried.

01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:28.135
Thank you.

01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:31.159
We'll move to item 8.6,

01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:33.735
the updated grants policy guidelines.

01:08:33.759 --> 01:08:36.759
Council SA,

01:08:37.120 --> 01:08:38.695
I'd just like to move an alternative

01:08:38.719 --> 01:08:41.719
motion.

01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:44.376
Has that been provided to governance?

01:08:44.400 --> 01:08:47.400
Yes. Just before

01:10:57.360 --> 01:11:00.360
That's it.

01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:04.135
Thank you. Do I have a seconder for that

01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:05.896
motion?

01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:08.920
Council Ashworth Colette.

01:11:09.040 --> 01:11:10.296
Council sub.

01:11:10.320 --> 01:11:12.695
Thank you. Just briefly to speak to the

01:11:12.719 --> 01:11:15.576
alternative.  it's it's a pretty

01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:18.215
simple one. The current plan that we're

01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.239
proposing um is seeking to reduce

01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:25.000
firstly the cap um high ceiling for our

01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:29.016
grants for  community centers and

01:11:29.040 --> 01:11:30.616
neighborhood houses. Um it's also

01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:32.536
proposing to reduce the base funding

01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:34.856
that um the neighborhood houses and

01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:37.880
community centers were to receive. Um

01:11:38.719 --> 01:11:40.536
I'm not proposing to change necessarily

01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:43.096
the base funding. Um but I am proposing

01:11:43.120 --> 01:11:46.056
that we keep the B or we increase sorry

01:11:46.080 --> 01:11:49.080
the um funding cap into the future as

01:11:49.440 --> 01:11:52.135
this is a longerterm policy and plan um

01:11:52.159 --> 01:11:55.096
and then also to apply a

01:11:55.120 --> 01:11:57.256
CPI increase to the funding that we give

01:11:57.280 --> 01:11:58.616
to these neighborhood houses and

01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:01.496
community centers. Um given they are in

01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:03.576
some instances and many cases kind of

01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:06.056
the lifeblood for our community.  they

01:12:06.080 --> 01:12:09.080
offer services and centers offer um

01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:13.239
programs that are vital to sometimes the

01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:15.896
survival of our community  by

01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:18.616
connecting them into each other. Um why

01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:21.336
this change is necessary?  it's

01:12:21.360 --> 01:12:24.360
because  as their services continue to

01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:28.776
um run the cost of these services tends

01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:30.695
to grow and increase as well as the

01:12:30.719 --> 01:12:32.776
running of the operations of the center.

01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:34.456
So, while we might not choose to

01:12:34.480 --> 01:12:36.056
increase necessarily year on year and

01:12:36.080 --> 01:12:37.256
we're doing it based on a service

01:12:37.280 --> 01:12:38.695
delivery offering, we're not actually

01:12:38.719 --> 01:12:41.096
catering for the fact that um as opposed

01:12:41.120 --> 01:12:43.736
to all the other grants that we offer.

01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:46.760
This is a regular stream that um helps

01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:49.016
support the operating of our community

01:12:49.040 --> 01:12:52.040
centers. Um it's it's actually going to

01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:54.135
be on par for a number of years as we're

01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:56.936
not increasing the base salary um which

01:12:56.960 --> 01:12:59.816
currently is $66,141

01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:02.695
and then plus whatever services um they

01:13:02.719 --> 01:13:04.456
offer and that varies from community

01:13:04.480 --> 01:13:06.616
center and neighborhood centers 

01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:08.776
Maplewood Houses

01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:10.936
the base funding is going to decrease

01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:12.776
actually in the first couple of years

01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:15.256
even with the CPI increase but at least

01:13:15.280 --> 01:13:17.175
we can cater for that growth into the

01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:19.096
future years so that our community

01:13:19.120 --> 01:13:20.536
centers and neighborhood houses can

01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:22.135
continue to offer the level of service

01:13:22.159 --> 01:13:23.655
services and quality that they can

01:13:23.679 --> 01:13:25.976
actually offer. Um, this is an emerging

01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:27.496
issue. I know a few community centers

01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:28.936
and neighborhood houses have reached out

01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:31.576
to all of us through email. Um, so based

01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:33.736
on my conversations with a few of them,

01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:35.576
I went and visited some as well since

01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:37.736
our last council meeting um to have

01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:39.336
these conversations. I do think this is

01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:42.360
a necessary change. Um, it's also

01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:45.256
financially and fiscally responsible. I

01:13:45.280 --> 01:13:46.856
know they would probably like for us to

01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:49.416
do more um but I'm not proposing that.

01:13:49.440 --> 01:13:51.175
I'm just I think this is a good sensible

01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:54.199
way forward.

01:13:55.440 --> 01:13:57.016
Thank you councelor S. Councelor

01:13:57.040 --> 01:13:59.896
Ashworth Colette.

01:13:59.920 --> 01:14:02.296
 I agree with everything that council

01:14:02.320 --> 01:14:04.376
s has just mentioned then that

01:14:04.400 --> 01:14:05.816
everything in life is getting more

01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:07.256
expensive. So I think putting an

01:14:07.280 --> 01:14:10.280
increase of 3% CPIPO is a a really

01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:13.976
important thing. Um, community centers

01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.296
are the lifeblood of our communities.

01:14:16.320 --> 01:14:18.135
They're there for so many people that

01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:19.896
could just quite easily fall off the

01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:22.056
edges of society and they're there to

01:14:22.080 --> 01:14:24.135
bring everyone together and have classes

01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:25.896
for so many people. They're amazing

01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:27.896
things. They do so much with the spaces

01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.056
they have and the money that's allocated

01:14:30.080 --> 01:14:31.655
to them. So, I'm very supportive of

01:14:31.679 --> 01:14:33.256
this. Thank you so much.

01:14:33.280 --> 01:14:35.576
Thank you, Council Ashworth Colette. Are

01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:36.856
there any other counselors wishing to

01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:39.496
speak to this motion?

01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:42.520
Question. Council O'Donnell, a question.

01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:45.496
Yes. Um, where are we getting the money

01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:47.175
from?

01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:50.199
, I'm going to take that as a perhaps

01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:52.936
statement unless it's rewarded to be a

01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:55.096
question to an officer

01:14:55.120 --> 01:14:56.536
through you, mayor, and to the relevant

01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:57.096
officer.

01:14:57.120 --> 01:14:58.536
Thank you.

01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:00.936
Where are we getting the money from?

01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:03.016
I'm going to reframe that question of

01:15:03.040 --> 01:15:04.936
has this been budgeted for?

01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:06.776
Has this been budgeted for? Where are we

01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:08.056
getting the money from? Thank you for

01:15:08.080 --> 01:15:08.856
your assistance.

01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:11.256
Thank you, Miss Warers.

01:15:11.280 --> 01:15:12.056
got there eventually.

01:15:12.080 --> 01:15:14.215
Thank you. And through you, mayor. ,

01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:16.056
no, this is hasn't hasn't been budgeted

01:15:16.080 --> 01:15:18.936
for um for this current financial year.

01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:20.456
We're currently preparing the budgets

01:15:20.480 --> 01:15:23.480
for the next um financial year. Officers

01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:25.096
um at this stage would recommend there's

01:15:25.120 --> 01:15:26.936
no overall increase to the Kingston

01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:29.256
grants budget. um and pending council

01:15:29.280 --> 01:15:31.416
approval of what's before you tonight,

01:15:31.440 --> 01:15:33.736
it would come out of the existing grants

01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:35.416
budget which would mean there's there's

01:15:35.440 --> 01:15:38.296
less available funds um particularly in

01:15:38.320 --> 01:15:40.616
the bianual community grants or in the

01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:43.640
community small grants.

01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:46.760
Thank you council Agirtan.

01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:49.416
Thank you madame may through you. A

01:15:49.440 --> 01:15:52.056
question to the relevant officer. Have

01:15:52.080 --> 01:15:55.080
um finance been consulted prior to this

01:15:56.400 --> 01:15:59.400
amendment in relation to quantifying the

01:15:59.679 --> 01:16:02.135
said CPI increase year on year for the

01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:04.695
next foreseeable future. Thank you.

01:16:04.719 --> 01:16:06.456
Thank you,

01:16:06.480 --> 01:16:09.480
Mr. Rowan.

01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:13.816
Um thank you and through Mayor Oxley. 

01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:16.840
we haven't  to my knowledge been um

01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:19.016
consulted on this proposal but we could

01:16:19.040 --> 01:16:21.416
obviously provide council with advice.

01:16:21.440 --> 01:16:23.336
Thank you.

01:16:23.360 --> 01:16:24.776
Are there any other counselors on this

01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:27.800
matter? Councelor Reanus.

01:16:28.480 --> 01:16:31.480
Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um I've also

01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:35.175
got concerns about this  amendment.

01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:38.199
While I do agree that  3% is is

01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:42.456
acceptable, I'm just wondering about the

01:16:42.480 --> 01:16:45.480
$100,000. I think that's pretty pretty

01:16:45.679 --> 01:16:48.679
steep considering it was 66 and we

01:16:49.280 --> 01:16:52.280
haven't really discussed it. So yeah,

01:16:52.320 --> 01:16:53.896
that's my concern. Thank you.

01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:55.576
Thank you, Council Sab. Councelor

01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:57.096
O'Donnell.

01:16:57.120 --> 01:17:00.120
 through you, Mayor, I move to defer

01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:03.880
the amended motion. There's nowhere near

01:17:04.080 --> 01:17:05.416
enough time for us to make a decision on

01:17:05.440 --> 01:17:07.336
this. It's just been dropped on us right

01:17:07.360 --> 01:17:09.016
now. Thank you. I'll just have the

01:17:09.040 --> 01:17:12.040
deferral first. Thank you.

01:17:14.400 --> 01:17:16.776
Is there a proposed time on the deferral

01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.800
or an action to occur?

01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:22.536
An action to occur. I think that we need

01:17:22.560 --> 01:17:25.560
finance to get back to us

01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:27.736
with what this actually looks like. I'm

01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.695
not making any financial commitments to

01:17:30.719 --> 01:17:33.256
what I don't know.

01:17:33.280 --> 01:17:36.215
So, we need a report.

01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:38.616
Um, I would say that to with the action

01:17:38.640 --> 01:17:40.776
that further information be provided to

01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:42.695
council on the amended parts of the

01:17:42.719 --> 01:17:45.496
motion, please.

01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:48.215
And the likely impact it will have on

01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:51.239
other grant streams and groups.

01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:55.976
,

01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:58.695
might want to help and the impact

01:17:58.719 --> 01:17:59.736
on the budget.

01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.760
Thank you.

01:18:03.679 --> 01:18:05.336
Um, if we can just change finance just

01:18:05.360 --> 01:18:08.360
to offices.

01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:21.896
Are you happy with that, Council?

01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:24.920
Um, a little bit of concern and may I

01:18:25.040 --> 01:18:26.536
direct a question to Mr.

01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:27.816
Just hang on. Just on the deferral

01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:28.215
first.

01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:30.536
Yes, this is part of the deferral. , I

01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:32.215
I can't take a question because I have

01:18:32.239 --> 01:18:33.736
to deal with the the moving of the

01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:35.976
procedural motion first. So, are you

01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:38.056
happy with what's on the screen for the

01:18:38.080 --> 01:18:39.336
procedural motion?

01:18:39.360 --> 01:18:41.736
I'd like to acknowledge the potential

01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:44.760
impact on other grant streams

01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:47.256
if the money needed to be moved

01:18:47.280 --> 01:18:49.096
upon the budget/grant stream.

01:18:49.120 --> 01:18:50.616
Yeah.

01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:53.496
Thank you.

01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:55.655
Are you happy with that? Do I have a

01:18:55.679 --> 01:18:58.679
second for the deferral? Council Agirtan,

01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:03.256
do you wish to speak to the deferral?

01:19:03.280 --> 01:19:06.280
Yes. And through you, Mayor. Um,

01:19:07.120 --> 01:19:08.695
I'd like a heads up when these things

01:19:08.719 --> 01:19:11.576
are going to be dropped on us with

01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:14.135
absolutely no idea that that was coming

01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:15.976
up until it started getting typed into

01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:19.000
the screen. Um, so that yeah, I don't

01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:22.215
like being caught off guard. Um, I need

01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:23.736
to know the details. I'm here to make

01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:25.256
decisions

01:19:25.280 --> 01:19:27.096
as a representative for the city of

01:19:27.120 --> 01:19:30.120
Kingston and as much as I support our

01:19:31.280 --> 01:19:34.135
neighborhood houses um and would love to

01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:37.159
see them having more funds sent their

01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:39.175
way, I can't make a decision like that

01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:41.256
tonight based on absolutely no

01:19:41.280 --> 01:19:44.215
background whatsoever. Thank you. Thank

01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:45.416
you, Councelor O'Donnell. Councelor

01:19:45.440 --> 01:19:47.896
Agirtan.

01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:50.920
Thank you. Um, Madame Mayor, um, I do

01:19:51.040 --> 01:19:53.976
hold concerns as a chartered accountant

01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:55.816
and somebody who holds a, um,

01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:58.456
postgradate qualification in forensic

01:19:58.480 --> 01:20:01.016
accounting and fraud investigation about

01:20:01.040 --> 01:20:04.040
sudden substantial increases to budget

01:20:04.080 --> 01:20:06.376
with no notice, no consultation with the

01:20:06.400 --> 01:20:09.400
relevant officers and , unquantified

01:20:10.400 --> 01:20:12.936
impact and a potential significant

01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:15.960
reduction to other grant recipients. we

01:20:16.320 --> 01:20:18.536
can't be possibly considering those

01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:21.336
amendments at a last minute the last

01:20:21.360 --> 01:20:23.416
meeting of the year with no relevant

01:20:23.440 --> 01:20:25.816
information presented to us and be able

01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:28.840
to make an informed decision. So I do

01:20:29.360 --> 01:20:32.360
support a deferral until such

01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:35.256
information is provided to us. I have

01:20:35.280 --> 01:20:38.280
read the email from the community

01:20:38.320 --> 01:20:41.320
um expressing that very same view.

01:20:41.360 --> 01:20:44.360
However, as councilors, we need to be

01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:47.560
responsible and that includes our budget

01:20:48.400 --> 01:20:50.776
that ultimately comes mainly from

01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:53.016
rateayer revenue. So, we don't have a

01:20:53.040 --> 01:20:55.416
credit card here unfortunately. So,

01:20:55.440 --> 01:20:57.816
somebody always foots the bill. So,

01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:00.840
let's consider this item very carefully

01:21:01.040 --> 01:21:03.896
with all the relevant information at

01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:05.496
hand. Thank you.

01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:08.520
Thank you, council. Council Sa

01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:11.096
um just a question through you mayor to

01:21:11.120 --> 01:21:13.816
um I believe the CFO. Have there been

01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:15.736
notices of motions submitted to this

01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:18.536
council meeting um post our budget that

01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:20.296
did not have initial budgetary

01:21:20.320 --> 01:21:21.816
considerations

01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:23.416
um given we went through an extensive

01:21:23.440 --> 01:21:26.440
budget process.

01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:31.576
I'm going to allow that question only on

01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:33.816
the basis that I think I can see where

01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:35.336
you're going. But you do need to make

01:21:35.360 --> 01:21:36.616
sure that anything that you're saying at

01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:38.856
this particular point is relevant to the

01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:41.880
deferral. Mr. Rowan,

01:21:44.719 --> 01:21:46.695
um for you, Mayor Oxley, can I just

01:21:46.719 --> 01:21:48.296
clarify? It was the question about

01:21:48.320 --> 01:21:50.616
notices of motion at this meeting or

01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:53.016
notice of motion since the budget?

01:21:53.040 --> 01:21:56.040
Since the budget, please. Um so there

01:21:56.480 --> 01:21:58.695
have been notices of motion  where

01:21:58.719 --> 01:22:00.456
there are reports that are called for

01:22:00.480 --> 01:22:03.016
and officers in that situations do

01:22:03.040 --> 01:22:04.856
provide guidance notes that provide

01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:06.695
information to council about the

01:22:06.719 --> 01:22:08.615
expected financial impact of different

01:22:08.639 --> 01:22:11.496
courses of action is the the general

01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:12.936
answer I can provide. I don't have a

01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:14.536
listing of all of those with me at the

01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:16.135
moment but that that would be our

01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:17.256
practice.

01:22:17.280 --> 01:22:20.280
Yeah thank you.

01:22:20.480 --> 01:22:22.776
Yeah I'd like to speak if I can ma'am

01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:25.800
council s. Yeah, thank you. Um, just to

01:22:25.840 --> 01:22:28.840
clarify, there is there was a question I

01:22:28.960 --> 01:22:31.655
think by councelorus about the cap. ,

01:22:31.679 --> 01:22:34.679
the current cap is 90,000. , we were

01:22:35.040 --> 01:22:36.936
going to reduce that to 80,000. That's

01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:39.655
not how much funds they receive. It is

01:22:39.679 --> 01:22:41.496
the cap of the total amount they can

01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:43.096
receive based on the services that they

01:22:43.120 --> 01:22:45.655
deliver. So, the suggestion was to

01:22:45.679 --> 01:22:48.615
increase that to 100,000. So, to cater

01:22:48.639 --> 01:22:51.639
for future growth. That's one point.

01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:53.496
two, I think councelor O'Donnell and

01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:55.576
councelor Agatin raised points around

01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:58.456
this being brought up very last minute.

01:22:58.480 --> 01:23:00.056
Um I will mention that there's been

01:23:00.080 --> 01:23:01.816
about six or seven amendments throughout

01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:03.576
tonight that have not been raised prior

01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:05.976
to any of the counselors um and will be

01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:08.615
raised um throughout this meeting. Um so

01:23:08.639 --> 01:23:11.336
it's not that this has been a surprise.

01:23:11.360 --> 01:23:14.056
So thirdly, this particular item when

01:23:14.080 --> 01:23:15.655
we're talking about CPI increases and

01:23:15.679 --> 01:23:17.655
what that impact in the budget would be

01:23:17.679 --> 01:23:20.615
um as can Miss Ward spoke to this is

01:23:20.639 --> 01:23:21.976
actually catered for in the existing

01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:23.976
budget that we have approved. So it's

01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:26.536
not an increase. Other by annual grants

01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:27.896
might not receive additional funding cuz

01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:29.256
we're going to take it out of that. So

01:23:29.280 --> 01:23:30.376
that's something that people need to be

01:23:30.400 --> 01:23:31.816
aware of. It's not actually going to

01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:33.256
impact what our budgets and what our

01:23:33.280 --> 01:23:36.280
financial decisions were. one  and

01:23:36.960 --> 01:23:39.416
then the other point to that as well is

01:23:39.440 --> 01:23:42.376
that deferring this we just had an item

01:23:42.400 --> 01:23:43.816
before about the quiddles which talked

01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:45.336
to us about the total amount that was

01:23:45.360 --> 01:23:47.416
spent for this particular budget item

01:23:47.440 --> 01:23:48.856
people could see what that is they could

01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:50.936
apply 3% to it and understand what that

01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:53.496
impact would be not necessary for banual

01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:56.296
grants but for this stream um it doesn't

01:23:56.320 --> 01:23:57.976
have any broader impacts than that it's

01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:00.296
just a policy change that I would urge

01:24:00.320 --> 01:24:01.496
people to think about what those

01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:03.736
implications would be it is not actually

01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:06.296
causing any other commotions any other

01:24:06.320 --> 01:24:08.376
concerns. It was relatively

01:24:08.400 --> 01:24:10.215
straightforward. I don't think we need

01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:12.376
to defer this. I think it's pretty

01:24:12.400 --> 01:24:14.536
straightforward that all it's asking for

01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:17.416
is to support our community centers in

01:24:17.440 --> 01:24:19.336
their operations. It's what they have

01:24:19.360 --> 01:24:21.016
all detailed to us. We've seen those

01:24:21.040 --> 01:24:22.856
emails. If you've attended a community

01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:24.456
center or spoken to them and I know

01:24:24.480 --> 01:24:25.976
councelor Renius has been to the Chelton

01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:28.056
community center before a few times. 

01:24:28.080 --> 01:24:31.016
I know councelor How has been to the

01:24:31.040 --> 01:24:33.576
Patterson Lake Center a few times. The

01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:36.600
thank you councelor S. time has elapsed.

01:24:37.600 --> 01:24:38.936
Are there any other counselors on this

01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:41.960
motion?

01:24:44.320 --> 01:24:45.896
There being none, before I put it to the

01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:47.896
vote, I will just add that I would

01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:50.376
support a deferral this evening. Um, I

01:24:50.400 --> 01:24:51.655
know there was a reference to a number

01:24:51.679 --> 01:24:53.416
of amendments that are potentially being

01:24:53.440 --> 01:24:56.056
proposed this evening. This item has

01:24:56.080 --> 01:24:58.215
come to us on a number of occasions at a

01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:00.056
number of our briefing sessions where

01:25:00.080 --> 01:25:01.496
councilors have had the opportunity to

01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:04.056
raise concerns. We had a pre-briefing

01:25:04.080 --> 01:25:05.655
before this meeting where councilors

01:25:05.679 --> 01:25:07.096
again have the opportunity to raise

01:25:07.120 --> 01:25:10.120
concerns and this is the first that we

01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:12.856
have seen of this motion um coming this

01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:14.456
evening that that does have an impact

01:25:14.480 --> 01:25:16.536
that I think would be prudent for us to

01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:18.695
defer to consider what that impact is.

01:25:18.719 --> 01:25:20.135
That is not saying that this council

01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:21.256
does not wish to support our

01:25:21.280 --> 01:25:22.615
neighborhood houses and our community

01:25:22.639 --> 01:25:24.856
centers. We certainly value all of the

01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:27.175
work that they do in our community. What

01:25:27.199 --> 01:25:28.856
this is about is making sure that we

01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:30.536
exercise good governance. Making sure

01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:32.615
that we are 100% sure on what we are

01:25:32.639 --> 01:25:34.615
voting on and the impacts and get that

01:25:34.639 --> 01:25:37.016
advice from our officers, not just

01:25:37.040 --> 01:25:39.096
councilors around the table who may have

01:25:39.120 --> 01:25:41.736
that information but not shared amongst

01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:43.976
all of us. So I would support a deferral

01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:45.736
this evening and hope that we can

01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:47.256
potentially look at support for this

01:25:47.280 --> 01:25:49.416
motion in the future to support our

01:25:49.440 --> 01:25:51.496
community centers, neighborhood houses.

01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:52.936
Assuming that it isn't going to have

01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:55.960
that negative impact on our budget, I

01:25:56.080 --> 01:25:58.056
will put the deferral to the vote. All

01:25:58.080 --> 01:26:01.080
those in favor,

01:26:01.120 --> 01:26:03.096
that is council Agirtan, councelor

01:26:03.120 --> 01:26:05.336
O'Donnell, councelor Revitus, councelor

01:26:05.360 --> 01:26:08.360
How, Councelor Hill, and myself. All

01:26:08.400 --> 01:26:10.936
those against

01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:12.856
councelor Ashworth Colette and councelor

01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:15.416
Sar and abstaining,

01:26:15.440 --> 01:26:17.416
councelor Athanosopoulos. And that is

01:26:17.440 --> 01:26:19.416
carried.

01:26:19.440 --> 01:26:21.816
Thank you.

01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:24.056
We'll move to item 9.1 which is the

01:26:24.080 --> 01:26:26.215
Kingston Heath pitch 5 community

01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:28.856
consultation findings. Do I have a

01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:31.736
motion? Council Agirtan the officer

01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:34.376
recommendation seconded.

01:26:34.400 --> 01:26:37.096
Councelor Reinus.

01:26:37.120 --> 01:26:38.536
Council Agirtan wish to speak to the

01:26:38.560 --> 01:26:41.560
motion reserve. Councelor Reinitus.

01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:43.655
Reserve. Any other counselors on this

01:26:43.679 --> 01:26:46.679
motion? Councelor Aanosopouloolis.

01:26:47.120 --> 01:26:50.120
 thanks mayor.  yeah, thank you to

01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:52.615
all the community that did consult

01:26:52.639 --> 01:26:54.376
throughout this process. I think that's

01:26:54.400 --> 01:26:57.016
the important thing to note before we do

01:26:57.040 --> 01:27:00.040
take um the next steps on this project.

01:27:01.520 --> 01:27:03.256
I think it's important that we

01:27:03.280 --> 01:27:05.175
acknowledge that there are some

01:27:05.199 --> 01:27:08.199
significant um users and contributors to

01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:12.920
this particular pitch five. um and we

01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:17.096
need to welcome all their feedback and

01:27:17.120 --> 01:27:19.096
try to work with all those competing

01:27:19.120 --> 01:27:20.536
interests to make sure that it's

01:27:20.560 --> 01:27:22.056
delivered.

01:27:22.080 --> 01:27:23.976
Um

01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:26.056
in the vision that it was proposed I

01:27:26.080 --> 01:27:28.135
suppose in the first place.  the

01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:30.536
important part is that as you can see by

01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:31.896
some of the information that's been

01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:34.920
provided to council  is that it both

01:27:35.040 --> 01:27:37.576
works as freeing up capacity and so that

01:27:37.600 --> 01:27:40.215
we do ensure that we have  female

01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:42.376
participation and access not only to

01:27:42.400 --> 01:27:44.135
pitch five by the way but also to the

01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:46.215
main pitches  which are obviously

01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:48.296
closer to facilities and I think that's

01:27:48.320 --> 01:27:51.320
important for our female participants

01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:54.695
but also there was a spirit of having

01:27:54.719 --> 01:27:57.719
the space open to other users. as is

01:27:57.760 --> 01:28:00.135
already the case. The critical thing

01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:03.159
that we have to do moving forward, and I

01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:05.175
have mentioned this in briefings, but I

01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:06.376
think it's important for the community

01:28:06.400 --> 01:28:09.400
to know is how that actually is realized

01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:12.520
in real life. Um, we've all probably

01:28:13.360 --> 01:28:15.655
walked through an activity center and

01:28:15.679 --> 01:28:17.816
unfortunately found the bottom of our

01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:20.840
shoe soiled with a dog's um um, you

01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:26.215
know, I don't even know the word to put

01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:27.655
in there, but you know exactly what I'm

01:28:27.679 --> 01:28:30.679
talking about. Um, that makes it , 10

01:28:30.719 --> 01:28:32.695
times worse when you've got a bunch of

01:28:32.719 --> 01:28:35.719
kids or adults running around a football

01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:38.456
pitch. Um and it's even more

01:28:38.480 --> 01:28:41.480
uncomfortable for those that are working

01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:44.215
um as volunteers at these clubs to to

01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:47.239
make sure that those spaces are um are

01:28:47.360 --> 01:28:50.360
ready to go for participation. So 

01:28:50.639 --> 01:28:52.615
it's important that both  the

01:28:52.639 --> 01:28:54.695
community and club work together hand in

01:28:54.719 --> 01:28:56.536
hand and hopefully it will be Kingston

01:28:56.560 --> 01:28:59.256
that that brings that together to make

01:28:59.280 --> 01:29:02.215
sure that that that space um is used

01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:04.536
appropriately um and is in good

01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:06.776
functioning order. So thank you again

01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:08.776
for everyone and their participation in

01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:11.800
this matter and I look forward to um

01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:14.296
that pitch being realized. Thanks.

01:29:14.320 --> 01:29:16.056
Thank you councelor Thanos. Are there

01:29:16.080 --> 01:29:19.080
any other counselors?

01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:21.256
There being none I will put that to the

01:29:21.280 --> 01:29:24.280
vote. All those in favor

01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:27.736
that is carried unanimously.

01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:30.056
Move to item 9.2 which is the response

01:29:30.080 --> 01:29:31.655
to resolution Palm Beach Basketball

01:29:31.679 --> 01:29:34.376
Stadium. Councelor O'Donnell.

01:29:34.400 --> 01:29:35.096
as

01:29:35.120 --> 01:29:37.496
an amended motion

01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:40.520
as it appears. Thank you.

01:29:41.280 --> 01:29:43.256
A seconder.

01:29:43.280 --> 01:29:46.280
Council Agirtan.

01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:51.416
Council O'Donnell.

01:29:51.440 --> 01:29:54.440
Reserve. Council Agirtan also reserve.

01:29:54.560 --> 01:29:57.560
Any councils on this matter?

01:29:58.080 --> 01:30:01.080
Councelor Hill.

01:30:03.679 --> 01:30:06.679
 thank you. I I think  very much in

01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:09.976
the spirit of the u previous item we

01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:11.736
deferred I' I'd like to move the

01:30:11.760 --> 01:30:14.760
deferral of of this item just to

01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:17.416
consider the budget impact.

01:30:17.440 --> 01:30:19.816
Thank you. Do I have a second for the

01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:22.840
deferral? Councelor Sab and councelor

01:30:23.360 --> 01:30:26.360
Hill are you wanting a time frame or an

01:30:26.639 --> 01:30:29.639
action to occur with that deferral? Um

01:30:29.679 --> 01:30:31.736
just a time frame. I think  just

01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:34.760
understanding the budget impact and  I

01:30:36.320 --> 01:30:39.320
I would imagine that  deferring this

01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:41.016
until probably the February meeting

01:30:41.040 --> 01:30:44.040
would be ample

01:31:07.280 --> 01:31:08.456
Thank you. Councelor Hill, do you wish

01:31:08.480 --> 01:31:11.480
to speak to the deferral?

01:31:17.040 --> 01:31:18.856
Not to any great length. I think it's 

01:31:18.880 --> 01:31:20.776
fairly self-explanatory.

01:31:20.800 --> 01:31:23.800
Um I I was quite comfortable with the

01:31:24.239 --> 01:31:27.239
recommendation um that it would be um

01:31:27.280 --> 01:31:29.016
sort of considered as part of the future

01:31:29.040 --> 01:31:32.040
budget  capital works  process and

01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:36.840
um I I know that this  that that may

01:31:37.360 --> 01:31:39.175
well have fallen  you know

01:31:39.199 --> 01:31:40.856
recommendation may well have ultimately

01:31:40.880 --> 01:31:43.880
fallen within a 26 27  time frame but

01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:48.376
 I just  would like to get further

01:31:48.400 --> 01:31:49.736
information have a have more

01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:51.655
understanding just a budget tree impact.

01:31:51.679 --> 01:31:53.256
That's all. Thank you.

01:31:53.280 --> 01:31:56.280
Thank you, Council Hill. Council SA

01:31:58.239 --> 01:31:59.416
I'll reserve.

01:31:59.440 --> 01:32:02.440
Thank you, Council O'Donnell.

01:32:02.639 --> 01:32:05.096
Thank you, Mayor. Um, I do want to point

01:32:05.120 --> 01:32:08.120
out that for those that aren't present

01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:11.239
at our CIS meetings on a weekly basis,

01:32:11.440 --> 01:32:13.416
um, I can't recall off the top of my

01:32:13.440 --> 01:32:15.016
head the number of times that we've

01:32:15.040 --> 01:32:18.040
spoken to the basketball courts down at

01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:21.336
Bomb Beach and the absolute dire state

01:32:21.360 --> 01:32:23.816
that they are in and how long cuz it's

01:32:23.840 --> 01:32:26.840
certainly well before my time that this

01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:29.096
should have been attended to years ago

01:32:29.120 --> 01:32:31.976
and having been a basketballer for a

01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:33.416
majority of the portion of my life and

01:32:33.440 --> 01:32:35.016
spending time at these courts ongoing

01:32:35.040 --> 01:32:37.655
with my own children. Um if you've been

01:32:37.679 --> 01:32:40.135
in the meetings over the past few months

01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:43.096
I think  you would recall multiple

01:32:43.120 --> 01:32:45.416
conversations happening in regards to

01:32:45.440 --> 01:32:47.256
the report that came back to us into the

01:32:47.280 --> 01:32:49.976
condition of the courts that do not meet

01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:52.936
acceptable standard to be played on. So

01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:55.256
we have been discussing this ongoing for

01:32:55.280 --> 01:32:57.816
weeks. Um and I'm really comfortable

01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:00.840
with the slight amended motion that is

01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:02.215
coming up tonight because I have been

01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:03.816
present at those meetings and I am well

01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:06.536
aware of what the potential outcomes are

01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:08.695
and I think it was if you can correct me

01:33:08.719 --> 01:33:11.719
if I'm wrong anybody um there were cost

01:33:12.719 --> 01:33:15.655
options that were put up recently. So in

01:33:15.679 --> 01:33:18.679
the documents that we've received during

01:33:20.080 --> 01:33:21.896
the past I cannot give you a date I'm

01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:24.056
sorry um there were cost options that

01:33:24.080 --> 01:33:25.336
were discussed. So, if you're on top of

01:33:25.360 --> 01:33:26.856
your agenda as a councelor, which I

01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:28.615
would hope that we all are, and you're

01:33:28.639 --> 01:33:31.336
able to attend the meetings, which you

01:33:31.360 --> 01:33:33.336
know would really be helpful, then you'd

01:33:33.360 --> 01:33:34.856
be well aware of what was coming with

01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:37.880
this slide amendment for the 2026 2027

01:33:38.080 --> 01:33:39.976
budget. So, I'm really comfortable to to

01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:41.736
vote on this tonight because I'm all

01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:42.856
over it.

01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:44.215
Thank you, Councilor O'Donnell. Are

01:33:44.239 --> 01:33:47.239
there any other counselors?

01:33:48.639 --> 01:33:50.936
Sorry, Council Agirtan. I try to make

01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:52.376
sure I can see everybody and you just

01:33:52.400 --> 01:33:54.135
miss out. Council,

01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:55.816
my apologies, Madame Mayor, for

01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:58.840
aggressively waving at you. Um, I unlike

01:33:59.920 --> 01:34:02.536
majority of people in the room do not

01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:05.560
play basketball. I do not participate in

01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:08.056
many sports, my children do not play

01:34:08.080 --> 01:34:11.016
basketball. But even I am aware through

01:34:11.040 --> 01:34:13.016
my good friends in Chelsea and Bournem

01:34:13.040 --> 01:34:16.040
Beach as to the dire state of this

01:34:16.320 --> 01:34:19.320
particular facility. Um, as um,

01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:22.536
Councelor O'Donnell correctly pointed

01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:25.560
out, we've been informed, , to the

01:34:26.719 --> 01:34:28.695
best of my recollection, up to five

01:34:28.719 --> 01:34:30.856
times through our reporting cycles about

01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:33.736
this particular facility. And the report

01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:36.536
that came back to us between two to

01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:39.560
three weeks ago highlighted the um,

01:34:40.159 --> 01:34:43.159
unsafe, unusable condition of , this

01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:46.920
facility. I

01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:49.496
don't see any reason to defer it any

01:34:49.520 --> 01:34:52.520
further because that affects the lives

01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:54.776
 of children and parents in city of

01:34:54.800 --> 01:34:57.800
Kingston to who who are all rate payers

01:34:59.120 --> 01:35:01.896
or who are all residents and they

01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:04.536
require this facility. Again, as

01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:07.496
somebody who doesn't have um the height

01:35:07.520 --> 01:35:10.456
or the ability to play basketball, I

01:35:10.480 --> 01:35:12.695
know there's a severe shortage of spaces

01:35:12.719 --> 01:35:15.655
and people are having to travel um to

01:35:15.679 --> 01:35:17.896
various other facilities in other

01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:20.856
municipalities just to participate in

01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:23.880
games. So, I am um not sure as to why

01:35:25.040 --> 01:35:27.576
this item needs to be deferred.

01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:30.600
following lengthy discussions, options,

01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:33.576
budgets, um,

01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:35.576
etc. that were all presented to us by

01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:38.215
officers. Thank you. Thank you, Council

01:35:38.239 --> 01:35:40.536
Ogatan. Councelor H.

01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:42.856
Thank you, Mayor Osley. Um, I fully

01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:45.256
supported the, um,

01:35:45.280 --> 01:35:47.096
the response and the motion. I thought

01:35:47.120 --> 01:35:50.120
it was great. The issue is it's now been

01:35:51.040 --> 01:35:53.096
changed to include budgeting for a

01:35:53.120 --> 01:35:54.936
million dollars without any reasonable

01:35:54.960 --> 01:35:57.496
conversation and going through financial

01:35:57.520 --> 01:35:59.496
rigor. I think we do need to address

01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:02.520
that um for our own good housekeeping

01:36:03.120 --> 01:36:05.336
and um then we can go forward. The

01:36:05.360 --> 01:36:07.096
courts are in dire condition. I was

01:36:07.120 --> 01:36:08.615
there two weeks ago. I know what they're

01:36:08.639 --> 01:36:11.639
like, but I think we need to be um

01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:14.615
astute and resolute in how we handle

01:36:14.639 --> 01:36:16.936
these matters. Thank you.

01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:18.376
Thank you, Councelor. How are there any

01:36:18.400 --> 01:36:21.400
other counselors?

01:36:22.400 --> 01:36:24.376
Before I put the deferral to the vote, I

01:36:24.400 --> 01:36:26.215
will just  point out that in the

01:36:26.239 --> 01:36:29.239
original recommendation, it is

01:36:29.360 --> 01:36:31.256
essentially allocating that funding be

01:36:31.280 --> 01:36:34.280
that for planning or not in the 2627

01:36:34.960 --> 01:36:37.960
budget. We also still with that budget

01:36:38.639 --> 01:36:40.856
in the motion that's been proposed

01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:43.175
allocating that required funding still

01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:45.256
has to come back to council to be voted

01:36:45.280 --> 01:36:48.280
on in a budget process. Council must

01:36:48.320 --> 01:36:50.936
still have another vote to allocate that

01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:53.576
money as part of the budget. All this

01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:55.576
would be doing this evening is actually

01:36:55.600 --> 01:36:56.936
saying to our community, we're going to

01:36:56.960 --> 01:36:59.016
stop talking about this issue and

01:36:59.040 --> 01:37:01.655
actually make a commitment to deliver on

01:37:01.679 --> 01:37:02.936
what needs to be done and what should

01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:04.615
have been done at Bomb Beach Basketball

01:37:04.639 --> 01:37:07.639
Stadium years ago. This council, in all

01:37:07.760 --> 01:37:09.175
honesty, and yes, it's a council that

01:37:09.199 --> 01:37:11.175
I've been a part of for almost 10 years,

01:37:11.199 --> 01:37:12.936
has failed in the maintenance of this

01:37:12.960 --> 01:37:14.695
facility, and we need to do something

01:37:14.719 --> 01:37:17.016
about it. It can't wait another

01:37:17.040 --> 01:37:19.095
basketball season. The courts are

01:37:19.119 --> 01:37:20.615
disgusting.

01:37:20.639 --> 01:37:23.016
So, a deferral to February is only going

01:37:23.040 --> 01:37:24.936
to mean that senior people can't go and

01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:26.695
play. And seniors being that over the

01:37:26.719 --> 01:37:29.016
age of 18 can't go and play basketball

01:37:29.040 --> 01:37:30.615
for another basketball season. That's

01:37:30.639 --> 01:37:33.016
what this means. So, by all means, we

01:37:33.040 --> 01:37:35.336
can defer it again. Not a problem. But

01:37:35.360 --> 01:37:36.536
again, this would have to come back to

01:37:36.560 --> 01:37:39.560
council for another budget approval and

01:37:40.080 --> 01:37:42.615
another vote of this council.

01:37:42.639 --> 01:37:44.296
I'll put the deferral to the vote. All

01:37:44.320 --> 01:37:47.320
those in favor

01:37:47.360 --> 01:37:49.016
that is councelor Ashworth Colette,

01:37:49.040 --> 01:37:51.175
councelor Athanosopoulos, councelor Sar,

01:37:51.199 --> 01:37:53.496
councelor Hill and councelor How. All

01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:56.056
those against councelor Agirtan,

01:37:56.080 --> 01:37:57.896
councelor O'Donnell, councelor Evanus

01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:00.615
and myself. That is lost. Oh, carried

01:38:00.639 --> 01:38:02.695
the deferral.

01:38:02.719 --> 01:38:04.456
Thank you.

01:38:04.480 --> 01:38:07.256
We'll move to item 9.3, the Patterson

01:38:07.280 --> 01:38:09.655
Lake sporting facilities.

01:38:09.679 --> 01:38:12.135
A motion

01:38:12.159 --> 01:38:15.159
council how the officer recommendation.

01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:18.600
A seconder council reitz

01:38:19.040 --> 01:38:20.296
you wish to speak to the motion council

01:38:20.320 --> 01:38:23.320
how reserve council reanitus reserve.

01:38:24.080 --> 01:38:27.080
Any councils on this motion?

01:38:29.679 --> 01:38:31.256
There being none, I will put that to the

01:38:31.280 --> 01:38:34.280
vote. All those in favor

01:38:35.840 --> 01:38:38.056
that is councelor Agirtan, councelor

01:38:38.080 --> 01:38:40.376
O'Donnell, councelor Evanus, councelor

01:38:40.400 --> 01:38:42.215
How, councelor Ashworth, Colette,

01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:44.215
councelor Sab, councelor Hill and

01:38:44.239 --> 01:38:47.175
myself. All those against and

01:38:47.199 --> 01:38:50.199
abstaining, councelor Athanosopoulos

01:38:50.400 --> 01:38:53.400
that is carried.

01:38:55.280 --> 01:38:57.416
We move to item 9.4 which is the award

01:38:57.440 --> 01:38:58.776
of contract for the provision of

01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:00.135
programmed and reactive plumbing

01:39:00.159 --> 01:39:03.159
services. A motion councilors

01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:05.016
council Agirtan the office of

01:39:05.040 --> 01:39:08.040
recommendation. Thank you. A seconder

01:39:08.080 --> 01:39:10.376
council O'Donnell. Do you wish to speak

01:39:10.400 --> 01:39:12.536
to the motion? Councilor O'Donnell

01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:15.560
reserve. Any councils on this motion?

01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:19.655
There being none, I will put that to the

01:39:19.679 --> 01:39:22.679
vote. All those in favor

01:39:24.159 --> 01:39:27.159
that is carried unanimously. Thank you.

01:39:27.920 --> 01:39:30.695
Item 9.5, the response to resolution

01:39:30.719 --> 01:39:33.719
Canon Creek pedestrian bridge.

01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:39.576
It does. It does have an amendment.

01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:40.936
So, an amended motion.

01:39:40.960 --> 01:39:41.736
Yes. Thank you.

01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:43.336
Thank you. Can you just double check

01:39:43.360 --> 01:39:44.695
that that is as it appears on the

01:39:44.719 --> 01:39:47.576
screen, please?

01:39:47.600 --> 01:39:48.615
Yes, that's correct.

01:39:48.639 --> 01:39:51.639
Thank you. A seconder.

01:39:56.480 --> 01:39:57.576
I'm going to give that a little bit of

01:39:57.600 --> 01:39:59.095
extra time. Council Ash with Colette.

01:39:59.119 --> 01:40:01.816
Thank you just as people are reading it.

01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:03.576
Council how

01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:06.376
Thank you, Mayor Osley. Um this doesn't

01:40:06.400 --> 01:40:08.936
change anything in the motion other than

01:40:08.960 --> 01:40:11.960
putting into the um into the document

01:40:12.320 --> 01:40:15.320
the the facts. So um if this comes back

01:40:16.400 --> 01:40:17.896
to life in the future, we don't have to

01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:20.296
go and reinvent all the hard work that

01:40:20.320 --> 01:40:21.736
the officers have put into this. We've

01:40:21.760 --> 01:40:23.576
got it in front of us and when we move

01:40:23.600 --> 01:40:25.095
forward. So it's just really just

01:40:25.119 --> 01:40:26.936
tidying it up. Thank you.

01:40:26.960 --> 01:40:29.960
Thank you. Council Ashworth Colette.

01:40:32.480 --> 01:40:34.056
No, I'm fine. Thank you. Reserve.

01:40:34.080 --> 01:40:35.976
Reserve. Thank you. A any other

01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:39.000
councilors?

01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:41.655
There being none, I will put that to the

01:40:41.679 --> 01:40:44.679
vote. All those in favor?

01:40:45.679 --> 01:40:47.976
That is council Agirtan, councelor

01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:49.816
O'Donnell, councelor How, Councelor

01:40:49.840 --> 01:40:51.896
Ashworth, Colette, Councelor Sab,

01:40:51.920 --> 01:40:54.920
Councelor Hill, and myself.

01:40:55.600 --> 01:40:58.536
and abstaining

01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:01.560
against councelor Revanus

01:41:01.679 --> 01:41:03.496
and noting councelor Thanosopoulos out

01:41:03.520 --> 01:41:06.520
of the room for that vote.

01:41:08.480 --> 01:41:11.480
Thank you. That is carried.

01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:15.175
 item 9.6 response to resolution

01:41:15.199 --> 01:41:16.776
establishing a botanical garden in

01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:19.800
Kingston. Councelor O'Donnell.

01:41:20.560 --> 01:41:22.856
 an amended motion with an additional

01:41:22.880 --> 01:41:25.880
point4. Yep. as it appears. Thank you.

01:41:28.400 --> 01:41:31.400
A second. Council Agatam.

01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:37.256
Do you wish to speak to the motion?

01:41:37.280 --> 01:41:40.280
Reserve. Council Agirtan. Reserve.

01:41:40.639 --> 01:41:43.639
Are there any councils on this motion?

01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:51.000
There being none,

01:41:52.400 --> 01:41:54.135
I will put that to the vote. All those

01:41:54.159 --> 01:41:57.159
in favor?

01:41:57.360 --> 01:42:00.360
That is carried unanimously. Thank you.

01:42:01.040 --> 01:42:03.576
Item 9.7, the adoption of the street and

01:42:03.600 --> 01:42:05.095
park tree operational management

01:42:05.119 --> 01:42:08.119
strategy. Say that 10 times fast. A

01:42:08.239 --> 01:42:11.239
motion councilors.

01:42:11.360 --> 01:42:13.576
Council O'Donnell moved. Seconded.

01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:15.416
Councelor. How do you wish to speak to

01:42:15.440 --> 01:42:18.215
the motion?

01:42:18.239 --> 01:42:21.239
Are there any other counselors?

01:42:22.080 --> 01:42:23.336
There being none, I will put that to the

01:42:23.360 --> 01:42:26.360
vote. All those in favor,

01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:30.600
that is carried unanimously.

01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:33.256
9.8 Community Energy Upgrade Fund

01:42:33.280 --> 01:42:36.280
Program Waves Leisure Center. A motion

01:42:37.119 --> 01:42:39.095
council Agirtan and seconded Council

01:42:39.119 --> 01:42:42.119
Reanitus. The office of recommendation.

01:42:44.080 --> 01:42:46.615
Do you wish to speak to the motion?

01:42:46.639 --> 01:42:48.856
Council Reanitus. Any councils on this

01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:51.880
motion?

01:42:54.400 --> 01:42:55.816
There being none, I will put that to the

01:42:55.840 --> 01:42:58.840
vote. All those in favor

01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:03.000
is carried unanimously.

01:43:03.360 --> 01:43:05.336
Item 10.1, the Kingston performance

01:43:05.360 --> 01:43:08.360
report, year 1, quarter 1.

01:43:09.440 --> 01:43:10.615
Councelor O'Donnell, the office of

01:43:10.639 --> 01:43:12.056
recommendation.

01:43:12.080 --> 01:43:15.080
Thank you. A seconder.

01:43:15.280 --> 01:43:18.215
Councelor Reidas,

01:43:18.239 --> 01:43:21.239
do you wish to speak to the motion? Any

01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:24.760
councilors on this motion?

01:43:25.920 --> 01:43:27.496
I will put that to the vote. All those

01:43:27.520 --> 01:43:30.520
in favor

01:43:31.440 --> 01:43:33.095
that is council Agirtan, councelor

01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:34.856
O'Donnell, councelor Revenitus,

01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:36.695
councelor How. Carried unanimously.

01:43:36.719 --> 01:43:39.719
Thank you.

01:43:41.040 --> 01:43:43.336
Item 10.2, the award of contract, the

01:43:43.360 --> 01:43:46.056
provision of unified communications.

01:43:46.080 --> 01:43:49.080
A motion.

01:43:50.400 --> 01:43:51.896
Moved. Councelor O'Donnell. Thank you,

01:43:51.920 --> 01:43:54.296
Councelor O'Donnell. A seconder.

01:43:54.320 --> 01:43:57.320
Councelor Revenus. Thank you.

01:43:59.119 --> 01:44:02.119
Any discussion required?

01:44:02.719 --> 01:44:04.456
I will put that to the vote. All those

01:44:04.480 --> 01:44:07.480
in favor?

01:44:07.600 --> 01:44:09.416
That is carried unanimously. Noting

01:44:09.440 --> 01:44:12.440
councelor SA not in the room.

01:44:13.679 --> 01:44:16.679
Thank you.

01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:20.296
Item 10.3, the governance and compliance

01:44:20.320 --> 01:44:22.215
report.

01:44:22.239 --> 01:44:25.239
A motion.

01:44:26.800 --> 01:44:29.800
Thank you, councelor Evanus

01:44:30.480 --> 01:44:33.416
and a seconder. Councelor Agirtan. Thank

01:44:33.440 --> 01:44:36.440
you. Any discussion required?

01:44:37.360 --> 01:44:38.936
There being none, I will put that to the

01:44:38.960 --> 01:44:41.960
vote. All those in favor?

01:44:42.400 --> 01:44:45.095
That is carried unanimously.

01:44:45.119 --> 01:44:48.119
Item 11.1 the procurement policy.

01:44:49.199 --> 01:44:51.095
A motion

01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:54.056
councilor O'Donnell and a seconder

01:44:54.080 --> 01:44:56.856
council Agirtan.

01:44:56.880 --> 01:44:59.880
Is there any discussion required?

01:45:01.199 --> 01:45:02.856
There being none, I will put that to the

01:45:02.880 --> 01:45:05.880
vote. All those in favor

01:45:06.400 --> 01:45:09.400
that is carried unanimously.

01:45:09.440 --> 01:45:11.816
Item 12.1 which is the notice of motion.

01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:13.416
Councelor How support for homeless

01:45:13.440 --> 01:45:15.256
future use of council owned age care

01:45:15.280 --> 01:45:18.280
facilities. Councelor How moved

01:45:18.880 --> 01:45:20.376
with a additional point.

01:45:20.400 --> 01:45:20.776
Yes.

01:45:20.800 --> 01:45:22.615
Thank you. Just want to check. Can you

01:45:22.639 --> 01:45:25.639
just double check that's correct?

01:45:27.679 --> 01:45:28.536
Yes, that's correct.

01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:30.135
Thank you. Do I have a seconder for this

01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:33.159
motion? Councelor EAthanasopoulos.

01:45:34.080 --> 01:45:36.456
Councelor How?

01:45:36.480 --> 01:45:38.536
Thank you, Mayor. Um, thank you to the

01:45:38.560 --> 01:45:41.095
officers for their work. Um it's been a

01:45:41.119 --> 01:45:42.615
journey. I think everyone's learned a

01:45:42.639 --> 01:45:44.296
little bit. Well, I certainly have a lot

01:45:44.320 --> 01:45:47.256
through this. Um the outcome is a

01:45:47.280 --> 01:45:49.576
excellent opportunity for um people who

01:45:49.600 --> 01:45:52.135
are disadvantaged and at risk and 

01:45:52.159 --> 01:45:53.496
I'll look forward to see how this

01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:56.520
progresses. Thank you

01:45:56.880 --> 01:45:59.496
councelors.

01:45:59.520 --> 01:46:00.695
I'll reserve. Thanks.

01:46:00.719 --> 01:46:01.736
Thank you. Are there any other

01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:04.760
counselors on this matter?

01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:10.695
Council Sab,

01:46:10.719 --> 01:46:13.719
just briefly to thank um the officers

01:46:13.920 --> 01:46:16.056
for their work in this, but also um

01:46:16.080 --> 01:46:19.080
councelor How for a bit of leadership in

01:46:19.679 --> 01:46:21.576
um an often pretty taboo and difficult

01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:24.600
to breach topic and um you know, we all

01:46:24.639 --> 01:46:26.776
want to talk about wanting to support

01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:28.376
homelessness and understanding the

01:46:28.400 --> 01:46:30.056
plight of people who are facing

01:46:30.080 --> 01:46:33.080
homelessness. Um but often we don't put

01:46:33.600 --> 01:46:36.600
our hands we don't get our hands dirty

01:46:36.880 --> 01:46:38.856
put our you know heads forward and

01:46:38.880 --> 01:46:40.376
trying to figure out a way in which we

01:46:40.400 --> 01:46:41.976
can actually address this issue and I

01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:44.776
think this is a really commendable thing

01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:46.936
um to be putting forward um so just

01:46:46.960 --> 01:46:48.215
wanted to thank him for the initiative

01:46:48.239 --> 01:46:49.736
and leadership in this but then also the

01:46:49.760 --> 01:46:51.175
council officers for working with him I

01:46:51.199 --> 01:46:53.416
know he's raised it with me previously

01:46:53.440 --> 01:46:55.976
um and also just commend it to our

01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:57.576
counselors hopefully they can support

01:46:57.600 --> 01:46:59.816
this motion it's again a really sensible

01:46:59.840 --> 01:47:02.135
good way forward

01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:03.736
Thank you councelor Sab. Are there any

01:47:03.760 --> 01:47:06.760
other counselors?

01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:10.215
Just a question through to the relevant

01:47:10.239 --> 01:47:13.239
officer just in terms of the 

01:47:13.280 --> 01:47:14.536
highlighted yellow, I'm not going to

01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:15.976
call it an amendment, but the the slight

01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:19.000
change that's been made. Um, is this

01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:22.215
something given we haven't necessarily

01:47:22.239 --> 01:47:24.536
asked for

01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:26.215
engagement activities to occur with

01:47:26.239 --> 01:47:28.615
other councils, charities? We're

01:47:28.639 --> 01:47:31.016
actually just asking for the EOI and the

01:47:31.040 --> 01:47:34.040
request for proposal to be undertaken.

01:47:34.239 --> 01:47:35.655
I'm assuming we're just taking that to

01:47:35.679 --> 01:47:38.135
be that we're doing that as part of the

01:47:38.159 --> 01:47:39.976
request of this, but I just want to

01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:43.000
double check, Mr. Rowan.

01:47:43.040 --> 01:47:45.095
, thank you, May. That's correct. So

01:47:45.119 --> 01:47:47.095
um we will do that engagement concurrent

01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:48.215
to that process.

01:47:48.239 --> 01:47:50.056
Thank you.

01:47:50.080 --> 01:47:52.776
If there are no other counselors I will

01:47:52.800 --> 01:47:55.800
put that to the vote. All those in favor

01:47:58.080 --> 01:48:00.536
that is councelor O'Donnell, councelor

01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:02.536
Revanus, councelor How, Councelor

01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:04.456
Ashworth, Colette, councelor Hill,

01:48:04.480 --> 01:48:07.336
councelor Thanosopoulos, councelor Sav

01:48:07.360 --> 01:48:09.256
all those against

01:48:09.280 --> 01:48:12.215
and abstaining that is council Agirtan

01:48:12.239 --> 01:48:14.456
and myself

01:48:14.480 --> 01:48:17.480
and that is carried.

01:48:22.400 --> 01:48:24.215
Thank you.

01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:25.655
I don't believe we have any items of

01:48:25.679 --> 01:48:28.679
urgent business.

01:48:28.960 --> 01:48:31.576
Council sub.

01:48:31.600 --> 01:48:33.095
Sorry, Mayor. I just mentioned it

01:48:33.119 --> 01:48:34.695
earlier in the meeting. We didn't get a

01:48:34.719 --> 01:48:36.456
chance to. So, I just wanted to see just

01:48:36.480 --> 01:48:37.896
before we closed this meeting and went

01:48:37.920 --> 01:48:40.920
into confidential um if we could through

01:48:41.199 --> 01:48:44.199
you um have a moment of silence, just a

01:48:44.639 --> 01:48:46.695
minute of silence acknowledging um what

01:48:46.719 --> 01:48:49.336
we spoke about earlier.

01:48:49.360 --> 01:48:52.215
 yes, I I will also note that it it

01:48:52.239 --> 01:48:55.239
was quite a  somber period of

01:48:55.280 --> 01:48:57.896
reflection for everyone that was here in

01:48:57.920 --> 01:49:00.856
the gallery um when those speeches were

01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:03.095
made. So that was my reasoning for not

01:49:03.119 --> 01:49:06.119
doing that earlier. Um but in order to I

01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:07.655
suppose indulge the request, I'm happy

01:49:07.679 --> 01:49:09.416
to do that and then we will move into

01:49:09.440 --> 01:49:12.440
confidential

01:49:55.440 --> 01:49:58.440
Thank you everyone for that.  can I

01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:01.560
please have a motion to move in camera?

01:50:02.159 --> 01:50:03.736
So we have one confidential item this

01:50:03.760 --> 01:50:05.976
evening. Moved councelor Agirtan and

01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:08.695
seconded councelor O'Donnell.

01:50:08.719 --> 01:50:11.719
All those in favor,

01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:15.736
that is carried unanimously. Thank you.

01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:18.135
 to those in the gallery and those

01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:20.296
watching us on the live stream, wishing

01:50:20.320 --> 01:50:22.615
you all a very merry Christmas and a

01:50:22.639 --> 01:50:24.456
safe and happy new year and we'll see

01:50:24.480 --> 01:50:27.480
you all in 2026.

01:50:29.119 --> 01:50:31.336
 sorry, we did have a the meeting open

01:50:31.360 --> 01:50:32.456
to members of the public. That was

01:50:32.480 --> 01:50:33.976
moved. Councelor O'Donnell. Sorry, I got

01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:36.456
a bit stuck there.  seconded. Do we

01:50:36.480 --> 01:50:38.215
have a second?

01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:40.776
Councelor Reven, sorry. Thank you. Thank

01:50:40.800 --> 01:50:43.175
you. Apologies.

01:50:43.199 --> 01:50:46.199
, all those in favor,

01:50:47.679 --> 01:50:49.496
that's carried unanimously. Thank you.

01:50:49.520 --> 01:50:52.520
And we'll close the meeting at 8:54.

01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:56.119
Thank you very much.