WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.456 Thank you everyone 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:04.856 and welcome to tonight's ordinary 00:00:04.880 --> 00:00:07.496 council meeting for Monday the 2nd of 00:00:07.520 --> 00:00:09.575 February. 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:12.296 Firstly before I begin the City of 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:13.976 Kingston proudly acknowledges the 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:16.056 Bunurong people of the Kulin Nation as 00:00:16.080 --> 00:00:18.056 the traditional owners and custodians of 00:00:18.080 --> 00:00:20.296 this land and we pay our respects to 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:23.320 their Elders past, present and emerging. 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:27.015 For the purposes of transparency, this 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:28.936 public meeting is being recorded and 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:30.856 streamed live on the internet. 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Voting is conducted by 00:01:41.759 --> 00:01:44.376 a show of hands. The outcome of a motion 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:46.616 is determined by a majority of votes in 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:49.095 favor with the chair being myself having 00:01:49.119 --> 00:01:52.119 a casting vote if the result is tied. A 00:01:52.479 --> 00:01:54.856 counselor may cast a vote for or against 00:01:54.880 --> 00:01:57.256 a motion or alternatively choose to 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:59.735 abstain from voting. However, under 00:01:59.759 --> 00:02:02.695 section 615e of the Local Government Act 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:05.415 2020, if a counselor does not cast a 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:08.056 vote by choosing to abstain, this is 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:10.455 counted as a vote against the motion 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:13.479 when determining the result. 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:20.215 We'll move to item one this evening 00:02:20.239 --> 00:02:23.239 being apologies and we have none. 00:02:23.920 --> 00:02:25.656 Item two being the confirmation of 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:28.056 minutes from previous meetings. Can I 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:29.976 have a motion that we confirm those 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:31.656 minutes? Councelor O'Donnell and 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:34.680 seconded Council Agirtan Thank you. 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:41.000 All those in favor 00:02:42.640 --> 00:02:45.640 that is carried unanimously. Thank you. 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:49.976 Just noting councelor Athanasopoulos out of 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:53.000 the room on that vote. 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:57.319 Thank you we'll move to item three 00:02:57.440 --> 00:02:59.016 which is foreshadow declarations by 00:02:59.040 --> 00:03:00.776 councilors, officers or contractors of 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:03.176 any conflicts of interest this evening. 00:03:03.200 --> 00:03:06.200 Councelor Saab. 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.456 Thank you, Mayor. I have a general 00:03:08.480 --> 00:03:11.480 conflict of interest in item 12.3. 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:12.855 Thank you. We'll note that in the 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:14.376 minutes. Are there any other conflicts 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:17.400 of interest? Council Ashworth Colett. 00:03:20.959 --> 00:03:23.656 I have a conflict of interest in item 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:26.536 8.2 individual development grants. Thank 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:29.016 you. 00:03:29.040 --> 00:03:31.096 I'm just checking governance. Do we need 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:32.855 the type of interest just for that? Oh, 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:35.016 sure. In in regards to the EFL life 00:03:35.040 --> 00:03:38.040 stadium club. Apologies. 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:43.159 Thank you. 00:03:43.519 --> 00:03:45.656 We'll note those. We'll move on to 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:47.736 petitions this evening. The first we 00:03:47.760 --> 00:03:50.056 have for an objection to a proposed 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.056 development at 11 Evans Street in 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:53.896 Parkdale. Councelor Agirtan, I believe 00:03:53.920 --> 00:03:56.616 you're presenting that petition. 00:03:56.640 --> 00:03:58.935 Thank you, Madame Mayor. I move that 00:03:58.959 --> 00:04:01.415 petition is accepted for review and 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.439 consideration by the co. Thank you. 00:04:04.480 --> 00:04:07.480 Thank you. A seconder. 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:10.295 Councelor O'Donnell. Thank you. 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:12.935 Do you wish to speak to the petition? 00:04:12.959 --> 00:04:15.959 No. Councelor O'Donnell 00:04:16.239 --> 00:04:17.735 reserve. 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:19.735 I will put that to the vote. All those 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:22.759 in favor? 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:26.056 That is carried unanimously. Thank you. 00:04:26.080 --> 00:04:29.080 The second petition is the relocation of 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:30.936 the Dingley Village Historical Society 00:04:30.960 --> 00:04:33.960 and Leon Collection. Councilor O'Donnell 00:04:34.479 --> 00:04:37.256 moved and a seconder. Councelor Erevnidis. 00:04:37.280 --> 00:04:39.256 Thank you. Do you wish to speak to the 00:04:39.280 --> 00:04:41.976 motion? 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:43.735 I wish to refer the petition to be 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:46.615 accepted by the CEO for review in 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:48.216 regards, the Dingley Village Historical 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:50.056 Society is petitioning the Kingston 00:04:50.080 --> 00:04:53.016 Council to allow the society to move the 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:55.656 the property at 37 Marcus Road, Dingley 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:57.656 Village, and allow us to house the Le Bon 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.216 collection at these premises. 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:02.856 Thank you, Councelor Erevnidis. 00:05:02.880 --> 00:05:04.376 Reserve, are there any other counselors 00:05:04.400 --> 00:05:07.400 on this motion? 00:05:07.520 --> 00:05:09.576 I will put that to the vote. All those 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:12.600 in favor, 00:05:13.280 --> 00:05:16.280 that is carried unanimously. Thank you. 00:05:21.440 --> 00:05:23.496 We'll move on to item five, which is 00:05:23.520 --> 00:05:25.175 delegates reports, council statements, 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.199 and presentation of awards. Before we 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:29.895 move into their list of councilors that 00:05:29.919 --> 00:05:31.976 have some statements this evening, 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:33.976 there's just a few items that I want to 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.696 address. and the first being to 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:38.776 briefly acknowledge the passing of a 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:39.816 staff member here at the City of 00:05:39.840 --> 00:05:42.376 Kingston, John Anaganis, Kingston's 00:05:42.400 --> 00:05:45.336 municipal building surveyor. John served 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:47.656 the City of Kingston with dedication and 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:50.536 professionalism for almost a decade. He 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:52.136 carried some pretty significant 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:54.455 responsibility and safety for our 00:05:54.479 --> 00:05:56.696 community and played a key role in times 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:58.856 of emergencies for our City and it was a 00:05:58.880 --> 00:06:00.536 role I know he took incredibly 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:02.216 seriously. 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:04.056 He was known for his deep knowledge of 00:06:04.080 --> 00:06:06.376 the building regulations, his calm 00:06:06.400 --> 00:06:09.096 leadership in complex situations, and 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:11.096 his unwavering commitment to public 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.895 service. He played a key role in guiding 00:06:13.919 --> 00:06:15.976 council through important legislative 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:19.000 change and helped position Kingston as a 00:06:19.039 --> 00:06:20.615 leader in building safety and 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:22.455 compliance. 00:06:22.479 --> 00:06:25.175 On a personal note, I want to thank John 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.199 for the time that he gave always. 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:30.856 He cared about everyone. 00:06:30.880 --> 00:06:33.735 Not just about the work things, but he 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:36.455 cared about the person, 00:06:36.479 --> 00:06:39.256 their weekend, their life, how they 00:06:39.280 --> 00:06:41.735 were. 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:44.536 Didn't think I'd be upset. 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:47.496 And I am so incredibly grateful for the 00:06:47.520 --> 00:06:50.216 time that he gave to me, 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:51.976 the conversations, 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:53.576 and for the fact that I got to know 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:56.376 someone who really was a wonderfully 00:06:56.400 --> 00:06:58.776 special person. 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.800 Above all, John cared very deeply about 00:07:02.080 --> 00:07:05.080 his family, his team, and the community 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:07.895 that he served. 00:07:07.919 --> 00:07:09.976 His work often happened behind the 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:13.000 scenes, but it made a real and lasting 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.816 difference to the lives of so many 00:07:15.840 --> 00:07:17.895 people across Kingston. 00:07:17.919 --> 00:07:20.216 So on behalf of council and all those 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:23.240 who knew John, all those that his work 00:07:23.840 --> 00:07:26.615 impacted and that he impacted on their 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:29.096 lives, I extend our heartfelt 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:32.056 condolences to John's family, friends, 00:07:32.080 --> 00:07:35.015 and his colleagues. We thank him for his 00:07:35.039 --> 00:07:38.039 service and dedication and acknowledge 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.136 the significant contribution that he 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.160 made to our City. He will be greatly 00:07:43.599 --> 00:07:46.376 missed and I know he wouldn't want us to 00:07:46.400 --> 00:07:48.776 be sad. So, I'd like to instead give 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:51.800 John a massive round of applause. 00:08:01.280 --> 00:08:04.280 Sorry about that. 00:08:04.479 --> 00:08:06.376 The next statement that I would like to 00:08:06.400 --> 00:08:09.400 make is on behalf of council on a an 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:11.976 issue that has been very prevalent in 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:13.735 our community and I know a number of you 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.216 are here in the gallery tonight 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:18.376 and that is on behalf of our Dingly 00:08:18.400 --> 00:08:20.936 Village community. Kingston is calling 00:08:20.960 --> 00:08:23.960 for our community. We need your help to 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.455 support our Dingley Village community. We 00:08:26.479 --> 00:08:28.696 continue to stand with Dingley Village 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:30.936 in refusing to accept poor planning and 00:08:30.960 --> 00:08:33.096 inadequate infrastructure at the former 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:36.120 Kingswood Golf Course site. For over a 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:38.375 decade, council has worked closely with 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:40.135 the Tireless Save Kingswood Group and 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:41.336 the Dingley Village Community 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:44.135 Association, calling for better outcomes 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:47.159 for Dingley Village. Back in 2018, we 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.000 had a record response of more than 8,000 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:53.176 community members lodging objections 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:55.736 with council against the rezoning of the 00:08:55.760 --> 00:08:57.736 former golf course that would allow for 00:08:57.760 --> 00:09:00.456 largescale residential development. 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:02.616 Your council listened and stood with the 00:09:02.640 --> 00:09:04.536 community, refusing permission to 00:09:04.560 --> 00:09:07.560 reszone this site. Unfortunately, the 00:09:07.839 --> 00:09:09.495 Victorian government stepped in and 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.896 overruled council, approving the 00:09:11.920 --> 00:09:13.736 resoning and appointing itself the 00:09:13.760 --> 00:09:16.296 decision maker, effectively locking 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:18.536 council and our community out of this 00:09:18.560 --> 00:09:20.056 process. 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:22.216 We refused to give up, as did our 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:24.935 community, and council continued the 00:09:24.959 --> 00:09:27.016 fight by engaging a range of top 00:09:27.040 --> 00:09:29.815 experts, legal representatives to 00:09:29.839 --> 00:09:31.656 present a strong argument at the 00:09:31.680 --> 00:09:34.616 government hearings. We repeatedly and 00:09:34.640 --> 00:09:36.136 continue to call on the Victorian 00:09:36.160 --> 00:09:38.536 government to conduct genuine community 00:09:38.560 --> 00:09:40.216 consultation. 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:42.216 Our officers lodged detailed responses 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:44.296 to the draft development plan, pointing 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:46.856 out all of these key concerns, and over 00:09:46.880 --> 00:09:49.736 1,500 community members again made 00:09:49.760 --> 00:09:51.336 submissions. 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:52.776 Unfortunately, the Victorian government 00:09:52.800 --> 00:09:54.616 again ignored the community and approved 00:09:54.640 --> 00:09:57.495 the plans. We continually generated 00:09:57.519 --> 00:09:59.416 media coverage over many years to keep 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:01.016 calling for those improvements to be 00:10:01.040 --> 00:10:03.255 made before it was too late. 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.416 We also had hoped to try the unusual 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:07.176 step of appealing against the Victorian 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:09.096 planning minister's decision decision 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.416 directly to VCAT. 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:13.815 Late last year, this council voted to 00:10:13.839 --> 00:10:15.736 lodge the appeal, hoping to gain some 00:10:15.760 --> 00:10:18.375 muchneeded improvements to the plans. 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:20.296 Unfortunately, as we now know, there was 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:23.255 confusion over the legal timeline. The 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:25.176 Victorian government notified council 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:28.200 staff on the 17th of October. later 00:10:28.640 --> 00:10:30.856 posted plans on their website stamped 00:10:30.880 --> 00:10:33.656 the 15th of October, but in actual fact 00:10:33.680 --> 00:10:35.656 a state government officer approved the 00:10:35.680 --> 00:10:38.680 plans on the 13th of October. 00:10:38.959 --> 00:10:41.176 Despite VCAT regularly allowing those 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.255 time extensions, our request for an 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:45.656 extension was opposed by the Victorian 00:10:45.680 --> 00:10:48.055 government. We were shocked and 00:10:48.079 --> 00:10:49.576 incredibly disappointed like our 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.536 community with the VCAT ruling. Your 00:10:52.560 --> 00:10:54.375 council and the community are 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:56.375 understandably upset by this lost 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:57.976 opportunity. 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:00.456 We do apologize sincerely for this error 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:02.375 and have recently written to everyone in 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:05.399 Dingley Village. Importantly, we are not 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.856 giving up. We continue to stand with 00:11:08.880 --> 00:11:10.696 Save Kingswood Group, Dingley Village 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:12.935 Community Association, and all of the 00:11:12.959 --> 00:11:15.255 Dingley Village residents. 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:16.616 Together, we are calling on our 00:11:16.640 --> 00:11:19.640 community to contact the local MPs and 00:11:19.680 --> 00:11:22.055 the Victorian Planning Minister to step 00:11:22.079 --> 00:11:24.616 in before it's too late. 00:11:24.640 --> 00:11:27.640 Put simply, the minister does not need a 00:11:27.680 --> 00:11:30.680 VCAT hearing to do the right thing. We 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:32.216 are simply calling for common sense 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:34.375 improvements to be delivered and better 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:35.896 outcomes for the Dingly Village 00:11:35.920 --> 00:11:38.055 community before the Victorian 00:11:38.079 --> 00:11:39.495 government rules on a planning permit 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:41.976 for this development. We continue to 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.055 stand with the community and refuse to 00:11:44.079 --> 00:11:46.456 accept poor planning. 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.136 Finally, I would like to take a moment 00:11:48.160 --> 00:11:50.696 to acknowledge the incredible work over 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.720 many years by Kevin Palter and other 00:11:53.760 --> 00:11:55.416 members of the Save Kingswood group and 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:58.440 the successive committees at the DVCA. 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:01.176 I'd also like to thank Jonathan and his 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:03.176 team, especially Paul and his team from 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:05.336 City Strategy for all of their hard work 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:08.360 over the years. This fight is not over. 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.096 There is still time for the Victorian 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:12.935 government to listen to our community 00:12:12.959 --> 00:12:14.935 and you can help by calling on the local 00:12:14.959 --> 00:12:17.336 MPs and the Victorian planning minister 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:19.656 to help us secure these improvements for 00:12:19.680 --> 00:12:22.680 our community before it is too late. 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:26.360 Thank you. 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:29.176 The next council statement I have 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:32.200 councelor white 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:14.456 Did you want me to move to another 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:17.480 counselor? 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:23.720 , yes, I'm happy to. Are there any 00:13:23.839 --> 00:13:25.336 other counselors wishing to make a 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:28.360 statement? Councelor O'Donnell. 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:34.120 Thank you, Mayor. 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:40.279 Um, I'm going to touch as best I can in 00:13:40.800 --> 00:13:43.255 such a short frame of time in regards to 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:44.615 some of the amazing sporting 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:46.055 achievements that we've seen taking 00:13:46.079 --> 00:13:48.456 place in just this year, and we're only 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:50.776 into February, so it's been quite 00:13:50.800 --> 00:13:53.495 impressive with our junior and senior 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:55.815 athletes um competing. I'm going to 00:13:55.839 --> 00:13:57.656 start off first of all with the 47th 00:13:57.680 --> 00:14:00.375 National Minnow Class Championships 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:02.216 um held down on the Gibsland Lakes in 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:04.776 Paynesville over a few days in 00:14:04.800 --> 00:14:07.576 January. I was actually ended up being 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:08.856 down there at exactly the same time and 00:14:08.880 --> 00:14:10.216 got to watch some of these kids out on 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:13.240 the water which was super impressive. Um 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:14.856 what's more impressive, we've had 00:14:14.880 --> 00:14:16.856 athletes coming from all over the 00:14:16.880 --> 00:14:19.495 country to compete. So from every other 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:22.519 state um coming to compete. Racing is 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:25.815 conducted in two divisions to cater for 00:14:25.839 --> 00:14:27.175 different experiences and 00:14:27.199 --> 00:14:30.199 competitiveness skill levels. Open and 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:31.736 novice. Boys and girls all race 00:14:31.760 --> 00:14:34.760 together. massive congratulations to 00:14:35.040 --> 00:14:37.416 William Rose, age 10 from Aspenale 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:39.815 representing the Morty Sailing Club. 00:14:39.839 --> 00:14:42.136 Sailed an excellent regata in the open 00:14:42.160 --> 00:14:44.696 fleet. So as much as I would like to 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:46.216 say, William, you were outstanding. I 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.615 saw they were that far off the the pier 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:50.136 that I was standing on that they looked 00:14:50.160 --> 00:14:52.856 like little blue triangles. the sales. 00:14:52.880 --> 00:14:55.096 Um, so and it was really tough 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:57.576 conditions. It was quite windy. So, , 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:59.976 outstanding to be competing in the the 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:03.000 open category and coming second overall. 00:15:03.199 --> 00:15:06.199 Um, and crowned junior champion under 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:08.536 12's national championship. So, you can 00:15:08.560 --> 00:15:10.856 get an idea that Williams still quite 00:15:10.880 --> 00:15:12.136 young and has had an outstanding 00:15:12.160 --> 00:15:14.216 achievement. , in the novice fleet, we 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:15.896 had three members from Parkdale Yacht 00:15:15.920 --> 00:15:18.296 Club um, attended their first national 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:19.976 championships. 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:21.416 All graduates from the Parkdale Yacht 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:24.440 Club learn to sail. coming in with an 00:15:24.560 --> 00:15:27.016 outstanding result was Jasper Bez also 00:15:27.040 --> 00:15:29.576 from Aspenale aged 11. He was crowned 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:32.600 the 2026 novice national champion. And 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:37.000 Kai Axton came second from Parkdale. 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:40.216 he's 10 years of age. And Hugo Davies 12 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:42.856 years of age from Edith to round out 00:15:42.880 --> 00:15:45.416 the third position. All are residents of 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:47.016 the City of Kingston. And two of them I 00:15:47.040 --> 00:15:50.040 taught to swim. I throw that in. Um, all 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:53.336 four junior sailors will compete at 2026 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:55.175 Victorian Championships down at Blair 00:15:55.199 --> 00:15:58.055 Gary Yacht Club this month. Um, massive 00:15:58.079 --> 00:16:00.136 achievement, guys. , watching you out 00:16:00.160 --> 00:16:01.416 on the water. The younger guys were 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:02.696 closer to shore, so I was able to see 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:04.296 them. You're out there on your own. The 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:07.255 Mino is a an Australian designed yacht 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:09.896 that is for sailing on its for 00:16:09.920 --> 00:16:11.416 individuals. So, outstanding 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:13.576 achievement. Big shout out to Morty Alec 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:15.336 Life-Saving Club over the weekend. Both 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:17.495 holding a junior and a senior carnival 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:19.495 Saturday, Sunday. consecutively. I was 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:22.519 at the beachside gift on Saturday at um 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:26.519 St. Beads Menone in um ground in in 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:29.576 Menon there. Outstanding 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:30.935 event and they're coming in for their 00:16:30.959 --> 00:16:33.255 10th year next year. So, let's get 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:34.856 behind them more and and really rally 00:16:34.880 --> 00:16:35.735 that up and see if we can have an 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:37.815 awesome event. This weekend on Saturday, 00:16:37.839 --> 00:16:39.576 7th of February, Edith Aspendar Life 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:42.456 Saving Clubs hold their gent joint club 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:45.480 to clubs. 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:49.720 Um, which I might swim in depending. 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.175 Thank you, Councelor O'Donnell. Are 00:16:53.199 --> 00:16:54.615 there any other councilors wishing to 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:56.776 make a councelor statement? Councelor 00:16:56.800 --> 00:16:59.800 White. 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:03.336 , just your microphone I don't think 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:06.360 is on. 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:16.935 Several factors contributed to what for 00:17:16.959 --> 00:17:18.295 many in the community was an 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:20.376 unsatisfactory outcome. Some of these 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:22.055 were individual failing, some were 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.775 systemic or structural. Incompetence or 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:26.535 negligence by the council's senior 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:28.376 planner. It was difficult to form a view 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:31.015 whether decisions proper, non-compliant 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:32.376 or simply deficient. 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:33.416 Council White. 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:35.096 Yes. 00:17:35.120 --> 00:17:37.256 Can we please just be respectful when we 00:17:37.280 --> 00:17:40.280 are referring to council staff? 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:43.880 This has come from an ombudsman report. 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:45.976 So, is it relevant to the City of 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:47.176 Kingston? Because your statement needs 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:48.936 to be relevant to the City of Kingston. 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.576 So, if there's references made to staff, 00:17:51.600 --> 00:17:53.576 I would urge you to be respectful and 00:17:53.600 --> 00:17:55.176 not make those references that are going 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:55.976 to negatively 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.216 This is coming I'm reading from a 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:01.096 summary from a public You are 00:18:01.120 --> 00:18:03.655 I'm reading Am I allowed to read the 00:18:03.679 --> 00:18:05.976 summary from a um 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:07.655 public report? Are we going to stop this 00:18:07.679 --> 00:18:09.496 clock? I can start it again as well. 00:18:09.520 --> 00:18:11.976 Councelor White, 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:13.256 I'm not going to have an argument back 00:18:13.280 --> 00:18:15.015 and forth. I'm simply asking that in the 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:17.015 statement you're making, one, it needs 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:18.856 to be relevant to the City of Kingston, 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:20.856 and two, you're not to make negative 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:22.775 references about council staff. If you 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:24.696 can do that, you can continue 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:27.655 this. I'm not continuing. 00:18:27.679 --> 00:18:29.895 Am I allowed to finish? Am I allowed to 00:18:29.919 --> 00:18:31.015 stop my time again? 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:32.376 No. If you'd like to continue your 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:34.456 statement. Basically, what I was reading 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:37.480 was a a summary made by an ombudsman 00:18:39.280 --> 00:18:41.256 5 years ago when she commenced an 00:18:41.280 --> 00:18:43.176 investigation into allegations. You 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:44.616 would have thought I was talking about 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:47.176 Kingswood the mayor did. 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.895 Um so at what point do we rip off the 00:18:49.919 --> 00:18:51.416 planning department's fail of 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:53.576 incompetency? What will this group be 00:18:53.600 --> 00:18:56.216 remembered for tonight? 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:58.936 If you cannot be respectful, 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:01.576 particularly of our council staff, how 00:19:01.600 --> 00:19:02.696 disappointing. 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:05.416 Councelor White, 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:07.256 are you able to continue a councelor 00:19:07.280 --> 00:19:08.616 statement? I want to give you the 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:10.216 opportunity to speak this evening. 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:11.576 I'll just finish with a couple. 00:19:11.600 --> 00:19:14.376 Council White, I'm speaking. 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:16.535 If you would like to be respectful of 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:18.376 council staff, you can continue a 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:21.096 councelor statement. If you're not, you 00:19:21.120 --> 00:19:22.616 will not get to continue a counselor 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:23.895 statement, and I will ask you to sit 00:19:23.919 --> 00:19:26.919 down. That's your choice. 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.655 Um well considering there's clearly 00:19:29.679 --> 00:19:32.679 no free speech left in this chambers. 00:19:33.280 --> 00:19:34.696 Councelor White, I'd now ask you to sit 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:35.976 down because you're no longer making a 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:39.000 councelor statement. Thank you. 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:43.336 Thank you. Are there any other councelor 00:19:43.360 --> 00:19:46.360 statements this evening? 00:19:49.760 --> 00:19:52.535 There being none, we will that council 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:54.456 note the councelor statements this 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:57.416 evening. Can I have a motion? 00:19:57.440 --> 00:19:58.936 Thank you. Councelor O'Donnell. A 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:01.960 seconder council Agirtan All those in 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:05.240 favor 00:20:05.360 --> 00:20:07.416 that is councelor How, Councelor 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:10.216 O'Donnell, councelor Aanosopoulos, 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:12.616 councelor Agirtan, councelor Erevnidis, 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:14.296 councelor Ashworth, Colette, councelor 00:20:14.320 --> 00:20:16.936 Saab, councelor Law, and myself. All 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:19.960 those against. Councelor White. 00:20:23.840 --> 00:20:25.895 Thank you. 00:20:25.919 --> 00:20:27.816 We'll move to item six being question 00:20:27.840 --> 00:20:29.256 time. Mr. CEO. 00:20:29.280 --> 00:20:30.856 Thank you, Mayor Oxley, and thank you to 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:32.296 those who submitted questions this 00:20:32.320 --> 00:20:34.056 evening. Please note the governance 00:20:34.080 --> 00:20:35.496 rules have been applied to all 00:20:35.520 --> 00:20:37.736 questions. The process of submitting 00:20:37.760 --> 00:20:39.576 questions to a council meeting is via an 00:20:39.600 --> 00:20:41.256 online question form available on 00:20:41.280 --> 00:20:43.736 council's website or placing a paper 00:20:43.760 --> 00:20:45.895 question form in the question box near 00:20:45.919 --> 00:20:48.456 our Chelnham customer service counter by 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:50.056 300 p.m. on the day of a council 00:20:50.080 --> 00:20:52.216 meeting. There are a total of 40 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:53.416 questions submitted for tonight's 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:55.176 ordinary council meeting. Seven 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:56.535 questions have been disallowed in 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:57.736 accordance to the governance rules on 00:20:57.760 --> 00:20:59.655 the grounds that six questions are 00:20:59.679 --> 00:21:01.736 derogatory of or to embarrass a 00:21:01.760 --> 00:21:03.895 counselor, a member of council staff or 00:21:03.919 --> 00:21:05.816 a member of the community and one 00:21:05.840 --> 00:21:07.736 question is repetitive of a question, 00:21:07.760 --> 00:21:09.976 matter, issue or principle that has 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:12.056 already been answered. Please note that 00:21:12.080 --> 00:21:13.736 any preamble submitted with questions 00:21:13.760 --> 00:21:15.976 will not be read out. We also have 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:17.256 received a number of information 00:21:17.280 --> 00:21:19.416 requests that fall outside the criteria 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:21.976 for public question time. These requests 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:23.176 have been forwarded to the relevant 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.096 department which will provide a direct 00:21:25.120 --> 00:21:28.120 response to the submitter in due course. 00:21:29.600 --> 00:21:31.736 We start the questions. First question 00:21:31.760 --> 00:21:34.760 is from Michael um and it follow on from 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:37.496 last meeting's question about the 00:21:37.520 --> 00:21:39.096 ongoing rubbish dumping in Clayton 00:21:39.120 --> 00:21:41.096 South. Can residents be made aware of 00:21:41.120 --> 00:21:42.775 the strategy so the residents can be 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:44.936 assured the council has a robust and 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:46.696 consultative process with residents in 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:49.496 the areas in regards to same and can 00:21:49.520 --> 00:21:51.096 council please indicate a delivery 00:21:51.120 --> 00:21:53.015 timeline for the project strategy and 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:55.256 how transparency to the re residents 00:21:55.280 --> 00:21:57.655 will be managed in regards to same I'll 00:21:57.679 --> 00:21:59.015 ask council's general manager of 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:00.936 infrastructure and open space Samantha 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:03.496 Krl to respond 00:22:03.520 --> 00:22:05.576 thank you and through you may thank you 00:22:05.600 --> 00:22:07.576 Michael for your question council is 00:22:07.600 --> 00:22:09.176 currently developing a waste strategy 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:11.096 that aims to address many areas of our 00:22:11.120 --> 00:22:13.176 community's waste disposal, including 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:15.736 the impact of dumped rubbish. Initial 00:22:15.760 --> 00:22:17.336 consultations and input from the 00:22:17.360 --> 00:22:20.056 community have already commenced and as 00:22:20.080 --> 00:22:21.576 the waste strategy development 00:22:21.600 --> 00:22:22.936 progresses, further community 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:25.336 consultation will be undertaken. This is 00:22:25.360 --> 00:22:28.360 scheduled for the first half of 2026. 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:30.535 Should you identify any locations of 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:32.376 dumped rubbish, please contact council 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:34.216 and our teams will attend, arrange 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:36.616 removal and commence any investigation. 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:38.936 Thank you. 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:40.936 Next question is from Jackie. What 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:43.015 physical barriers will council install 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:44.775 to deter trail bike riders from 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:47.176 accessing the green space behind Cala 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:49.416 Street Clayton South? Again, I'll ask 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:50.775 council's general manager infrastructure 00:22:50.799 --> 00:22:52.936 and open space, Samantha Kru, to 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:54.456 respond. 00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:57.176 Thank you and through you, Mayor. 00:22:57.200 --> 00:22:58.696 Thank you, Jackie, for getting in touch 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:00.456 and sharing your concerns about trail 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:02.616 bikes in Power Net Reserve in Namajera 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:05.096 Park. To help us respond accurately, it 00:23:05.120 --> 00:23:06.456 would be useful to know if the query 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:09.096 relates to motorized bikes or ebikes and 00:23:09.120 --> 00:23:10.936 scooters. 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:12.775 These reserves include shared paths 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:14.696 where ebikes and scooters are permitted 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:16.535 and our regular inspections have not 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:18.775 identified any damage or informal jumps 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:21.496 at these sites. Victoria Police is also 00:23:21.520 --> 00:23:23.496 running an ebike safety initiative and 00:23:23.520 --> 00:23:25.496 their website is helpful information for 00:23:25.520 --> 00:23:27.576 the community. If you ever witness 00:23:27.600 --> 00:23:29.416 dangerous riding, we encourage you to 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:32.296 report it directly to the police. 00:23:32.320 --> 00:23:34.216 Council recognizes the growing interest 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:36.616 in mountain biking, BMX, and ebikes, and 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:38.135 we're currently developing a mountain 00:23:38.159 --> 00:23:40.936 bike and BMX strategy to identify 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.416 suitable purpose-built facilities. This 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:45.336 work aims to reduce informal trail 00:23:45.360 --> 00:23:46.616 building by providing safe, 00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:48.775 well-designed spaces. Community 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:50.775 consultation is currently planned for 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:53.799 around mid 2026. Thank you. 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:57.736 The next question is from Graeme. Have 00:23:57.760 --> 00:23:59.496 counselors sought and received advice 00:23:59.520 --> 00:24:01.096 from historical societies and 00:24:01.120 --> 00:24:03.256 individuals knowledgeable of Kingston's 00:24:03.280 --> 00:24:05.496 history and working to record, preserve, 00:24:05.520 --> 00:24:07.576 and disseminate our history? Who were 00:24:07.600 --> 00:24:09.655 these contacts? I as council's general 00:24:09.679 --> 00:24:11.176 manager, community strengthening, Kate 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:13.255 Waters, to respond. 00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:15.576 Thank you. And through you, Mayor Oxley 00:24:15.600 --> 00:24:17.576 Graeme, thank you for your question. I 00:24:17.600 --> 00:24:19.416 understand it refers to the visual arts 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:21.416 and heritage collection policy and 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:23.255 guidelines that council considered at 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:26.279 the council meeting in December 2025. 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:28.696 The policy was developed by officers 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:30.775 with expert knowledge in this area as 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:32.696 well as external best practice standards 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:34.856 and guidelines such as the national 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:36.856 standards for Australian museums and 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.880 galleries. In September 2025, a 00:24:39.919 --> 00:24:41.736 consultation took place on the draft 00:24:41.760 --> 00:24:44.376 policy and guidelines. During this time, 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:46.056 a presentation on the policy and 00:24:46.080 --> 00:24:47.736 guidelines was provided to members of 00:24:47.760 --> 00:24:49.576 the Kingston Historical Society's 00:24:49.600 --> 00:24:51.976 network along with hard copies of these 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:54.216 documents. All members were invited to 00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:56.216 provide feedback during the consultation 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:59.096 period. The consultation period was also 00:24:59.120 --> 00:25:00.936 promoted through council social media 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.015 platforms and was also shared by 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.496 Kingston Arts, Kingston libraries and 00:25:05.520 --> 00:25:08.216 various e newswsletters. The report 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:09.895 included in the agenda of the previous 00:25:09.919 --> 00:25:11.576 council meeting contains further 00:25:11.600 --> 00:25:14.456 information and is available online. In 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.296 addition, I am aware several councilors 00:25:16.320 --> 00:25:18.216 received correspondence or spoke to 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:20.456 community members directly, some of whom 00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:22.056 are members of local historical 00:25:22.080 --> 00:25:25.080 societies. 00:25:25.360 --> 00:25:27.655 The next two questions are from Mary. Is 00:25:27.679 --> 00:25:29.015 council aware that the Minister for 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:30.535 Transport is now advising that the 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:32.456 Latroe Street level crossing will be 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:34.456 closed and that the minister is advising 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:36.775 that the community consultation used as 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:39.496 the basis for the decision is a 2016 00:25:39.520 --> 00:25:42.520 Facebook post with 123 comments with 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:45.096 none of which supported the closure. And 00:25:45.120 --> 00:25:46.535 secondly, will the council be ensuring 00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:48.216 that there is a more upto-ate and more 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:50.535 widespread community consultation before 00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:53.015 they allow Lrobe Street to be closed? 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:54.535 I'll ask council's general manager 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:55.976 planning and place, Mr. to Jonathan 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:58.135 Goodman to respond. 00:25:58.159 --> 00:25:59.816 Thank you. And through the mayor, I'd 00:25:59.840 --> 00:26:02.535 like to thank Mary for her questions. In 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:04.616 response to the first question, publicly 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:06.376 available material indicates that the 00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:08.056 state government is proposing to make 00:26:08.080 --> 00:26:10.056 the Frankston Line level crossing free 00:26:10.080 --> 00:26:13.080 by 2029 and the closure of the Lro 00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:15.816 Street crossing is mentioned. 00:26:15.840 --> 00:26:17.496 In response to the second question, 00:26:17.520 --> 00:26:19.816 council has and will continue to 00:26:19.840 --> 00:26:21.576 reinforce to level crossing removal 00:26:21.600 --> 00:26:23.736 project the importance of community 00:26:23.760 --> 00:26:25.895 consultation associated with the LRO 00:26:25.919 --> 00:26:28.456 street level crossing closure. The 00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:31.176 council has previously reinforced to 00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:33.576 level crossing removal project the 00:26:33.600 --> 00:26:35.496 significant level of local community 00:26:35.520 --> 00:26:37.336 interest in relation to the closure of 00:26:37.360 --> 00:26:39.416 this crossing and the need to have 00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:41.576 completed robust traffic modeling on the 00:26:41.600 --> 00:26:44.535 implications. Thank you. 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:46.376 The next question is from Mark. What 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:47.976 progress has been made in getting your 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:49.976 policies together so that a sauna can be 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:52.216 placed back at the Mortial Sailing Club? 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:53.816 I ask council's chief financial officer, 00:26:53.840 --> 00:26:56.840 Bernard Rowan, to respond. 00:26:58.159 --> 00:27:00.696 Thank you and through you, Mayor Oxley. 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.015 , thank you, Mark, for your question. 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:04.696 , work has commenced on the policy 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:06.056 that will guide the commercial use of 00:27:06.080 --> 00:27:08.376 the foreshore. The policy is intended to 00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:10.296 address proposals such as a sauna at the 00:27:10.320 --> 00:27:12.535 Morty Alexanding Club. At this stage, a 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:14.696 draft policy is expected later this 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:17.176 year. To finalize this policy, officers 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:18.535 will consult with the Department of 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:20.456 Energy, Environment, and Climate Action, 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:22.616 Dika, to ensure that the policy aligns 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:24.056 with state coastal management 00:27:24.080 --> 00:27:25.976 requirements. Importantly, the draft 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:27.655 policy will also be subject to council 00:27:27.679 --> 00:27:29.416 consideration and community 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:31.976 consultation. 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:33.816 Next question is from Keith. Will rate 00:27:33.840 --> 00:27:35.496 payers be able to see any reports 00:27:35.520 --> 00:27:38.056 generated by the monitors? As council's 00:27:38.080 --> 00:27:39.416 general manager, customer corporate 00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:42.440 support, Mr. Dan Hogan to respond. 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:45.976 Thank you, Keith. While this question is 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:47.255 perhaps best directed to Local 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.255 Government Victoria, I might be able to 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:51.176 help with the gist of the question. 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:52.936 While the Local Government Act of 2020 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:54.375 sets out that the monitors report 00:27:54.399 --> 00:27:55.736 directly to the Minister for Local 00:27:55.760 --> 00:27:57.736 Government, most usually a final report 00:27:57.760 --> 00:27:59.176 is publicly released through the Local 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.200 Government Victoria website. 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.696 Next question is from Ian. Could council 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:06.696 please move the rubbish bin/bag 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:08.616 dispenser to ensure a larger gap to 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.176 allow access to restock and dispense the 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:13.496 dog litter bags as council's general 00:28:13.520 --> 00:28:15.015 manager infrastructure and open space 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.895 Samantha Kr to respond. 00:28:17.919 --> 00:28:20.056 Thank you and through me through you may 00:28:20.080 --> 00:28:21.895 thank you for raising your concerns Ian. 00:28:21.919 --> 00:28:23.336 Works have currently commenced on the 00:28:23.360 --> 00:28:25.176 wall to gold pavilion upgrade which has 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:27.015 restricted access to some of our public 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.655 litter. Officers will review the current 00:28:29.679 --> 00:28:31.655 location of the of the litterbins and 00:28:31.679 --> 00:28:33.496 move them to a more accessible location 00:28:33.520 --> 00:28:36.520 until the work has been complete. 00:28:37.600 --> 00:28:40.375 Next two questions are from Gavin. Can 00:28:40.399 --> 00:28:42.375 council provide a common man explanation 00:28:42.399 --> 00:28:44.936 to item 10.1 in tonight's agenda. 00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:46.775 particularly what endorsement of the new 00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.096 S6A instrument of delegation under the 00:28:49.120 --> 00:28:51.736 planning environment act means and does 00:28:51.760 --> 00:28:54.056 and secondly what controls is this 00:28:54.080 --> 00:28:55.976 placing on council's planning role and 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.456 is it correct that S6A is giving more 00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:00.135 control to the planning minister 00:29:00.159 --> 00:29:01.496 particularly with respect to the 00:29:01.520 --> 00:29:03.736 proposed southern rail loop project and 00:29:03.760 --> 00:29:05.736 possibly also the proposed Kingswood 00:29:05.760 --> 00:29:07.976 golf course development I'll ask general 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:09.576 manager of planning and place Jonathan 00:29:09.600 --> 00:29:12.296 Gutman to respond 00:29:12.320 --> 00:29:13.976 thank you I'd like to thank Gavin as 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:15.655 well for his question and through you 00:29:15.679 --> 00:29:17.336 madame mayor. The proposed changes to 00:29:17.360 --> 00:29:19.655 the instrument of delegation S6 council 00:29:19.679 --> 00:29:21.576 to council staff are proposed to take 00:29:21.600 --> 00:29:23.816 into account legislative changes made to 00:29:23.840 --> 00:29:26.840 the planning and environment act 1987 by 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.015 the consumer and planning legislation 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:32.039 amendment housing statement reform act 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.799 2025 which commenced on the 25th of 00:29:35.919 --> 00:29:38.535 November 2025. 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:40.375 Some of the broader intentions of the 00:29:40.399 --> 00:29:43.399 legislation are to provide for greater 00:29:43.600 --> 00:29:45.895 requirements on council to outline its 00:29:45.919 --> 00:29:48.056 reasons for not supporting an amendment 00:29:48.080 --> 00:29:51.080 request should it determine to do so. 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.176 Ability of the minister to require 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.176 council to make a decision on a planning 00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.015 scheme amendment request within a 00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:59.176 prescribed period. 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.936 This ability has not previously been 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:02.775 provided in the manner now intended 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.496 through the legislative changes. the 00:30:05.520 --> 00:30:07.736 ability to progress a low impact form of 00:30:07.760 --> 00:30:09.816 amendment to deal with anomaly related 00:30:09.840 --> 00:30:12.840 matters efficiently. An example of a low 00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:14.856 impact amendment would be a more 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:17.736 efficient process. 00:30:17.760 --> 00:30:19.096 A more efficient process. 00:30:19.120 --> 00:30:22.120 The audio seems to have been muted. 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.039 Just pause just for a second. 00:30:27.840 --> 00:30:30.840 Yeah. Yeah. I think you saw that. 00:30:34.159 --> 00:30:36.616 I also can't hear any audio. 00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:38.375 Can you hear now? 00:30:38.399 --> 00:30:39.736 Yes. Thank you so much. 00:30:39.760 --> 00:30:42.760 Thank you. 00:30:43.600 --> 00:30:45.895 Um, the ability to progress a low impact 00:30:45.919 --> 00:30:48.535 a form of amendment to deal with anomaly 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.416 related matters efficiently. 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.416 An example of a low impact amendment 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:55.336 would be a more efficient process to 00:30:55.360 --> 00:30:57.176 remove a dead tree from an environmental 00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.576 significance overlay. 00:30:59.600 --> 00:31:01.496 In relation to the exercise of these 00:31:01.520 --> 00:31:03.416 delegations, they're in direct response 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.015 to changes made to the Planning and 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.176 Environment Act 1987 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.496 and hence would need to be provided to 00:31:09.520 --> 00:31:11.976 allow for officer delegation. 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.056 The wellestablished practice of council 00:31:14.080 --> 00:31:15.736 officers regarding planning scheme 00:31:15.760 --> 00:31:18.696 amendments is to wherever possible seek 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.535 the formal direction of council in 00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:23.015 relation to amendments. Delegation is 00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:25.736 then generally exercised by giving 00:31:25.760 --> 00:31:28.760 effect to the direction of council. 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:30.856 Specifically with respect to the 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.096 suburban rail loop structure planning 00:31:33.120 --> 00:31:35.736 activities and the former Kingswood Golf 00:31:35.760 --> 00:31:38.056 Course planning approvals, the planning 00:31:38.080 --> 00:31:39.895 powers to determine these matters 00:31:39.919 --> 00:31:41.255 continue to sit with the planning 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:44.279 minister and not the council. 00:31:45.760 --> 00:31:48.056 Next two questions are from Simon. When 00:31:48.080 --> 00:31:49.895 council considers repeat leave requests 00:31:49.919 --> 00:31:51.976 under section 35 subsection 4 of the 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:54.535 local government act 2020, what criteria 00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:56.056 does Kingston use to decide whether 00:31:56.080 --> 00:31:57.495 those repeat requests remain a 00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:59.495 reasonable request for leave? And what 00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:01.176 actions will Kingston council take to 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:02.696 prevent a situation where a council 00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:05.096 repeatedly takes extended leave, attends 00:32:05.120 --> 00:32:07.176 one meeting to reset the absence period, 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:08.456 then takes further leave while 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:09.816 continuing to receive the council 00:32:09.840 --> 00:32:11.736 allowance. We'll ask council's general 00:32:11.760 --> 00:32:13.096 manager, customer and corporate support, 00:32:13.120 --> 00:32:15.895 Dan Hogan, to respond. 00:32:15.919 --> 00:32:18.456 Thank you for your question, Simon. 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:19.976 Firstly, in respect to approving 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.456 councelor leave, section 354 of the 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.535 local government act 2020 states that 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:26.456 the council must grant any reasonable 00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:28.535 request for leave. What determines 00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:29.895 reasonable will be a matter for the 00:32:29.919 --> 00:32:31.976 council to determine once the request 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:33.895 and reason is formally tabled within a 00:32:33.919 --> 00:32:35.895 council agenda. 00:32:35.919 --> 00:32:37.736 In respect to repeated or consecutive 00:32:37.760 --> 00:32:39.736 periods of leave, the act states only 00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:41.736 that a councelor ceases to hold office 00:32:41.760 --> 00:32:43.495 if absent from council meetings for a 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:45.015 period of four consecutive months 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:48.039 without leave obtained from council. 00:32:48.399 --> 00:32:51.399 Next counsel's 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:56.775 historical items, would council consider 00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:58.696 talking to Glenra council with a view to 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:01.015 working together to find a way to retain 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:03.336 and reopen this historic building? 00:33:03.360 --> 00:33:04.775 Council's general manager committee 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.255 strength and Kate Waters will respond. 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.096 Thank you and through you mayor. 00:33:09.120 --> 00:33:11.255 Officers from Kingston and Glen Ira are 00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:13.015 working collaboratively to support the 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.096 Moraban Historical Society through its 00:33:15.120 --> 00:33:17.495 windown with Glenn Ira leading this 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:19.655 work. This will include overseeing the 00:33:19.679 --> 00:33:21.096 process to determine the most 00:33:21.120 --> 00:33:22.856 appropriate future arrangements for 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.336 items in the collection. In relation to 00:33:25.360 --> 00:33:27.816 the cottage itself, stewardship of the 00:33:27.840 --> 00:33:30.840 land and asset sits with Glenra. 00:33:33.679 --> 00:33:36.056 The next two authors I will combine 00:33:36.080 --> 00:33:37.895 together for three questions. The first 00:33:37.919 --> 00:33:40.375 two questions are from Alina. Can you 00:33:40.399 --> 00:33:41.895 please tell this council meeting tonight 00:33:41.919 --> 00:33:43.816 how much rate payers owe monitor Mr. 00:33:43.840 --> 00:33:46.216 John Tanner as of today? And what date 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:48.456 was the invoice received? And a question 00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:50.535 from Robert. Has Mr. John Tanner 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:51.816 presented his invoice for being a 00:33:51.840 --> 00:33:53.655 monitor at Kingston yet? I'll ask 00:33:53.679 --> 00:33:54.936 council's chief financial officer 00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:57.960 Bernard Rowan to respond. 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:00.936 thank you for your questions Ellena 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.576 and Robert and through you Moxley. 00:34:03.600 --> 00:34:05.736 Mr. Tenner has not yet invoiceed council 00:34:05.760 --> 00:34:07.495 for his time as a monitor at the City of 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:09.655 Kingston. Council will owe Mr. Tenner 00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:11.095 for the daily rate set by the minister 00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:13.095 for local government plus superenuation 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.335 plus the reimbursement of expenses. The 00:34:15.359 --> 00:34:16.776 amount owed by council will need to be 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:18.615 verified by officers against an invoice 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.335 once submitted by Mr. Tenner. 00:34:21.359 --> 00:34:23.256 Next two questions are from Steven. Were 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:24.696 there any recommendations from the 00:34:24.720 --> 00:34:27.256 finding of the 2021 ombudsman's report 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:29.496 titled allegations of collusion with 00:34:29.520 --> 00:34:31.095 property developers at Kingston City 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:33.256 Council regarding the planning phase and 00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:34.456 community perception of corruption in 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.055 the Patterson Lakes Marina Precinct 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.855 Endeavor Cove issue implemented and act 00:34:38.879 --> 00:34:40.536 upon by Kingston Council to improve 00:34:40.560 --> 00:34:43.256 council processes to avoid future 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.055 similar failures and if so what were 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:48.296 they? I'll ask council's general manager 00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:49.976 customer and corporate support Dan Hogan 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.055 to respond. 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:53.815 Thank you for the question. This 00:34:53.839 --> 00:34:56.055 Victorian ombbudsman, sorry rather the 00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:57.335 Victorian ombbudsman made no 00:34:57.359 --> 00:34:59.095 recommendations to Kingston City Council 00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:01.095 within this report. Specifically, the 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.095 report included the following statement. 00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:04.776 As council has committed to implementing 00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:06.296 the recommendations of two property 00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.136 reviews that address these issues, this 00:35:08.160 --> 00:35:10.136 report makes no formal recommendations 00:35:10.160 --> 00:35:13.160 to council. 00:35:14.160 --> 00:35:16.216 The next question is from Zoe. Is the 00:35:16.240 --> 00:35:18.136 Kingston Council group called Queer in 00:35:18.160 --> 00:35:20.216 Kingston for 12 to 17 year old children 00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:22.376 still currently operating? I'll ask 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:23.656 council's general manager committee 00:35:23.680 --> 00:35:26.536 strength and Kate Waters to respond. 00:35:26.560 --> 00:35:28.456 Thank you. And through you, Mayor Oxley. 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.536 Yes, it is. 00:35:30.560 --> 00:35:32.536 I have two further questions from Vera. 00:35:32.560 --> 00:35:34.296 How much did the drag show cost rate 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:35.736 payers which was put on by Kingston 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.216 Council in November 2024 and organized 00:35:38.240 --> 00:35:40.776 for children 12 to 17 years old who were 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:42.296 involved in the council youth group 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:44.456 called Queer in Kingston or such other 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.536 affiliated council youth group. The 00:35:46.560 --> 00:35:48.216 second question is is the council youth 00:35:48.240 --> 00:35:49.575 services planning to put on another 00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:51.656 similar event for 12 to 17 year old 00:35:51.680 --> 00:35:53.256 children in Kingston who are part of 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:55.656 these youth groups. Again I'll ask 00:35:55.680 --> 00:35:57.335 general manager community strengthening 00:35:57.359 --> 00:35:59.416 Kate Waters to respond. 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.256 Thank you. And through you, mayor. I 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:02.936 assume the questions relate to a 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.095 youthled event called Glitter and Glow. 00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:06.616 The event was funded by a state 00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:08.376 government grant with no cost to rate 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:10.536 payers. There are currently no plans to 00:36:10.560 --> 00:36:12.456 deliver any similar events. However, 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:14.376 this may change subject to demand from 00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.055 young people involved in our youth 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.776 programs and subject to funding. 00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:20.776 The next question is from Julia. Is it 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.376 considered by council a conflict of 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.296 interest for a council to file a grant 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:26.936 grant a quiddle for a grant recipient? 00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:28.456 I'll ask council's general manager 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:30.216 customer and corporate support Dan Hogan 00:36:30.240 --> 00:36:32.616 to respond. 00:36:32.640 --> 00:36:34.376 Thank you for your question Julia. The 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:36.216 local government act 2020 sets out 00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:37.896 provisions and obligations of councilors 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.736 regarding conflicts of interest. 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:41.496 Individual counselors are responsible 00:36:41.520 --> 00:36:43.095 for considering and declaring conflict 00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:44.696 of interest requirements regarding their 00:36:44.720 --> 00:36:47.256 own. Local government Victoria has 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:48.376 published a range of governance 00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:49.976 resources to help counselors understand 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.936 their obligations. 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.496 Next two questions are from Ivette. Why 00:36:55.520 --> 00:36:57.575 did council accept the acquid numbers 00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.055 self-reported by the Drews grantee that 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.456 5,000 Drews community members were 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:04.216 involved in the community event funded 00:37:04.240 --> 00:37:05.656 by the grant when according to the 00:37:05.680 --> 00:37:08.680 census of 2021 there are only 4,268 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:10.536 Drews registered in the whole of 00:37:10.560 --> 00:37:12.216 Australia with a reasonable estimate of 00:37:12.240 --> 00:37:13.815 1 to 2,000 living in the state of 00:37:13.839 --> 00:37:16.055 Victoria? Secondly, is council aware 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:17.656 that there are publicly available photos 00:37:17.680 --> 00:37:19.656 and videos from this event published on 00:37:19.680 --> 00:37:21.896 Drew's Victoria social media showing 00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.616 only about 50 to 100 attendees? I'll ask 00:37:24.640 --> 00:37:25.896 council gender manager committee 00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.456 strengthening Kate Waters to respond. 00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:30.696 Thank you and through you may all 00:37:30.720 --> 00:37:32.536 Kingston grant program recipients 00:37:32.560 --> 00:37:34.616 self-report participant numbers as part 00:37:34.640 --> 00:37:36.216 of the quiddle process. Various 00:37:36.240 --> 00:37:38.696 supporting material is provided. The 00:37:38.720 --> 00:37:40.696 event referred to was open to the whole 00:37:40.720 --> 00:37:43.335 community. I have I'm not aware of the 00:37:43.359 --> 00:37:44.856 social media referred to in the second 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.575 question. 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:49.575 I'll combine the questions from the 00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:52.055 following three authors for one 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.016 consolidated response. The questions are 00:37:55.040 --> 00:37:57.815 from Arena. Have councilors been briefed 00:37:57.839 --> 00:37:59.815 formally by the lawyers, the CEO and the 00:37:59.839 --> 00:38:01.656 executive leadership team at Kingston 00:38:01.680 --> 00:38:03.496 involved in the Kingswood Supreme Court 00:38:03.520 --> 00:38:06.216 and VCAT issues and if not are there any 00:38:06.240 --> 00:38:08.296 plans to brief them? A question from 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.136 Anna. Were councils provided with the 00:38:10.160 --> 00:38:11.815 legal advice directly from legal firms 00:38:11.839 --> 00:38:13.335 engaged regarding the Supreme Court 00:38:13.359 --> 00:38:15.416 appeal re the Kingswood development or 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:17.016 was it passed on to them secondhand 00:38:17.040 --> 00:38:19.416 through the CEO? And last question from 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:21.896 Una. Can you please name the lawyer 00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:23.815 firms that gave council's legal advice 00:38:23.839 --> 00:38:25.976 about the success chances of council's 00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:28.055 possible legal avenues to move either to 00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.136 the Supreme Court and also the chances 00:38:30.160 --> 00:38:31.736 of success at VCAT regarding the 00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:33.256 Kingswood development? I'll ask 00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:34.696 council's general manager planning and 00:38:34.720 --> 00:38:37.720 place Jonathan Goodman to respond. 00:38:38.640 --> 00:38:40.536 Councils have not been formally briefed 00:38:40.560 --> 00:38:42.696 by lawyers in relation to the VCAT and 00:38:42.720 --> 00:38:44.536 Supreme Court appeal, but officers have 00:38:44.560 --> 00:38:46.055 carefully considered the advice of 00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:47.976 council's legal representation 00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.456 representatives in this matter. Best 00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.536 Hooper solicitors together with barrista 00:38:52.560 --> 00:38:54.376 Alex Galba were engaged to represent 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.095 council for the VCAP matter. Officers 00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:58.936 further informed council as the best way 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:00.936 to continue to advocate for the 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:02.616 community outcomes in relation to the 00:39:02.640 --> 00:39:04.776 Kingswood development. 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:04.936 The 00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:06.936 next question is from Jeff. Will there 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:08.616 be any consequences for the Kingston 00:39:08.640 --> 00:39:10.296 Council officers involved in the recent 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:11.815 administrative failures regarding the 00:39:11.839 --> 00:39:13.815 Kingswood Golf Course VCAT appeal? 00:39:13.839 --> 00:39:16.839 Again, I'll ask Mr. Goodman to respond. 00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.216 Following immediate responsive action to 00:39:20.240 --> 00:39:22.136 continue advocating for better community 00:39:22.160 --> 00:39:23.416 outcomes in the development of 00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.575 Kingswood, the CEO further directed a 00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:26.856 review into the operational 00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:28.616 circumstances that led to the late 00:39:28.640 --> 00:39:30.376 submission of council's objection to 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:33.016 VCAT. Council is committed to continuous 00:39:33.040 --> 00:39:34.856 improvement across all its operations, 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.095 including policy, process, systems, and 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.496 staff, and Kingswood is no exception. 00:39:39.520 --> 00:39:41.976 The next question is from Rose. Why did 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.055 Kingston Council testify at VCAT that 00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:45.896 they did not get legal advice regarding 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:47.976 Kingswood when they had? Again, I'll ask 00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:51.000 Mr. Goodman to respond. 00:39:52.160 --> 00:39:54.376 Councilor's comm council has 00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:56.136 commissioned legal advice and assistance 00:39:56.160 --> 00:39:57.736 in relation to a range of matters 00:39:57.760 --> 00:39:59.176 pertaining to the former Kingswood 00:39:59.200 --> 00:40:01.176 Peninsula Golf Course site over recent 00:40:01.200 --> 00:40:03.416 years. Neither council's submission nor 00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:05.496 its affidavits tabled through the recent 00:40:05.520 --> 00:40:07.416 VCAT hearing indicated that council did 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.575 not get legal advice regarding 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:12.456 Kingswood. Council will contact Rose to 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.480 confirm the intention of the question. 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.896 The next question is from Una. Has 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:19.656 Kingston Council received legal advice 00:40:19.680 --> 00:40:21.335 regarding a potential class action from 00:40:21.359 --> 00:40:23.016 Dingley Village residents regarding the 00:40:23.040 --> 00:40:25.256 recent VCAT administrative fail 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:27.815 failures? Again, I'll ask Mr. Goodman to 00:40:27.839 --> 00:40:30.839 respond. 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.016 Council's not aware of any such proposed 00:40:33.040 --> 00:40:34.856 action. Council will continue to work 00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:36.296 closely with the Dingley Village 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:38.136 community and the Save Kingswood Group 00:40:38.160 --> 00:40:39.815 and the Dingley Village Community 00:40:39.839 --> 00:40:41.976 Association. 00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.216 The next two questions are from Graeme. 00:40:44.240 --> 00:40:45.976 Can council please provide details of 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:46.936 the number of properties that the 00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:48.456 suburban rail loop will have an effect 00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:50.856 on within each county wards of the City 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.095 of Kingston listed below by listing the 00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:55.016 total number of properties required 00:40:55.040 --> 00:40:57.256 separately listed in KO WLE and Chaita 00:40:57.280 --> 00:40:59.095 wards and their existing zonings that 00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:00.536 will be required within the structure 00:41:00.560 --> 00:41:02.536 plan boundary and listing the total 00:41:02.560 --> 00:41:04.776 number of properties affected by KO W 00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:06.696 and Chaita Wards and their existing 00:41:06.720 --> 00:41:08.696 zonings that will be affected within the 00:41:08.720 --> 00:41:11.720 SRLA planning area declaration boundary. 00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:13.736 I'll ask Mr. Goodman to respond to that 00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:15.815 question. 00:41:15.839 --> 00:41:17.736 The council believes it will be possible 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:19.335 to identify the number of properties 00:41:19.359 --> 00:41:21.016 within the structure plan boundary and 00:41:21.040 --> 00:41:23.976 the AA planning area declaration 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.055 boundary. It will in further it will 00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:27.575 further investigate Graeme's request 00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:29.575 with the relevant council officers and 00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:31.656 the SRL should information be required 00:41:31.680 --> 00:41:34.055 from the authority and provide Graeme a 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.456 formal response. 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:38.856 Next question is from Tessos. Can the 00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:40.536 council advise the public? What is the 00:41:40.560 --> 00:41:42.055 council doing about the vast number of 00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:44.295 food vans operating in the area, some 00:41:44.319 --> 00:41:46.456 without a permit and knowledge by the 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:48.376 council? And what is the gain to the 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:50.456 council from these vans? Again, I'll ask 00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.480 Mr. Mr. Gutman to respond. 00:41:54.319 --> 00:41:56.776 I'd like to thank um the person who 00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:58.936 asked the question. All food businesses, 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.016 including food vans, must be registered 00:42:01.040 --> 00:42:03.176 or notified to council under the food 00:42:03.200 --> 00:42:06.055 act. They they are held to the same food 00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:08.696 safety standard at fixed premises and 00:42:08.720 --> 00:42:10.856 are inspected at least once each year 00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:13.736 with extra checks where required. Food 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.976 vans must also comply with town planning 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.616 rules for the land they operate on and 00:42:18.640 --> 00:42:20.456 it is illegal to trade on council 00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:22.376 managed public land without a council 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.095 permit. Our officers monitor compliance 00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:26.616 and take enforcement action where 00:42:26.640 --> 00:42:29.256 needed. Where a van trades at another 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.496 business, for example, a petrol station, 00:42:31.520 --> 00:42:33.575 it must still have its own food 00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:35.815 registration and lodge its trading 00:42:35.839 --> 00:42:37.815 details through the state system and 00:42:37.839 --> 00:42:40.839 comply with any permit conditions. 00:42:41.680 --> 00:42:43.256 That concludes public questions for the 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.095 evening, Mayor Oxley. 00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.095 Thank you. And thank you to all of those 00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:49.176 who submitted public questions this 00:42:49.200 --> 00:42:51.016 evening. We value those questions each 00:42:51.040 --> 00:42:53.335 and every meeting. 00:42:53.359 --> 00:42:55.815 We'll now move on to item 7.1 which is 00:42:55.839 --> 00:42:57.815 the town planning application decision 00:42:57.839 --> 00:43:00.839 for December 2025. Can I have a motion? 00:43:01.680 --> 00:43:03.976 Councelor Ranitus. Thank you. Councelor 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.776 How seconding. Thank you. Do you wish to 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:08.936 speak to the motion? 00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:10.936 Thank you. I'll put that to the vote. 00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.960 All those in favor. 00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:17.400 That's carried unanimously. Thank you. 00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:21.000 Item 8.1 which is the Kingston grants 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:24.119 program updated policy and guidelines. 00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:27.095 This item was deferred at the 15 00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:29.016 December ordinary council meeting. So 00:43:29.040 --> 00:43:30.776 the motion that is before us is the 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.095 motion that was moved at that meeting by 00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:35.496 councelor SA seconded by councelor 00:43:35.520 --> 00:43:38.376 Ashworth Colette. Speakers to the motion 00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:40.376 that have already spoken were councelor 00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:42.295 SA councelor Ashworth Colette and 00:43:42.319 --> 00:43:44.376 councelor Reanitus. 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:47.095 and we will resume debate from that 00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:49.335 point in the meeting. So that is what is 00:43:49.359 --> 00:43:50.616 currently on the screen. Councelor 00:43:50.640 --> 00:43:53.640 Reanus, a question. 00:43:54.640 --> 00:43:56.536 Thank you, Madame Mayor. I'm just 00:43:56.560 --> 00:43:59.560 wondering if I can request that 1A 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.880 and B be um voted on separately. 00:44:05.359 --> 00:44:08.359 Yes, I can I can do that. Thank you. 00:44:08.640 --> 00:44:10.776 Thank you. 00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:12.456 Are there any councilors wishing to 00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:15.480 speak to the motion? 00:44:18.160 --> 00:44:21.160 Council White. 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:25.176 Um I have a couple of questions. 00:44:25.200 --> 00:44:27.736 Probably best for Kate. Um 00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:28.536 Waters. 00:44:28.560 --> 00:44:31.560 Miss Waters. Sorry. I forget. Um I was 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.016 looking through this today, Kate, and I 00:44:35.040 --> 00:44:35.736 just Waters. 00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:38.216 Miss Waters, sorry. Um, and I was 00:44:38.240 --> 00:44:41.240 thinking, , cuz we've got the new, um, 00:44:42.640 --> 00:44:44.936 amendments made to the policy with 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.496 regards to supporting dance studios and 00:44:47.520 --> 00:44:50.520 the like. Um, and I saw that it I can't 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.295 find it in the paperwork now. Um, but I 00:44:54.319 --> 00:44:57.319 saw that it was , 00:44:57.359 --> 00:45:00.359 1 to four employees. 00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:03.575 Do you remember what page that was on 00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.599 just off the top of your head? 00:45:06.720 --> 00:45:08.216 Miss Waters, that's putting you on the 00:45:08.240 --> 00:45:11.240 spot. Where when you can 00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:14.440 I can't seem to find it now. I should 00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.480 have um noted the page. Sorry. 00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.256 3.1.1, I'm being told. 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.280 Yes. 3.1.1. Yes. So, can I just ask um 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:28.616 so obviously anyone who knows me 00:45:28.640 --> 00:45:31.016 knows I'm not the biggest fan of grants, 00:45:31.040 --> 00:45:31.976 I think. Um 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:33.256 is this a question or are you speaking 00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:35.416 to the motion? Oh, I'm I'm I'm speaking 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.176 to the motion a little bit and then I'm 00:45:37.200 --> 00:45:38.376 going to ask more questions. 00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:38.936 Okay. 00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:41.960 Um so for obvious reasons um but I'm 00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:46.376 really you know I thought my industry 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:48.696 I'm a dance studio owner and they think 00:45:48.720 --> 00:45:51.720 about 25% of my um 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.800 industry shut down after co we 00:45:56.160 --> 00:45:58.776 were hit probably one of the hardest 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.800 as a small business. Um, so I really 00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.456 liked the idea, you know, a dance 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.936 studio. My dance teacher used to say to 00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:08.616 me when I was little, "Oh, you don't you 00:46:08.640 --> 00:46:11.016 don't do this to make money, Caroline. 00:46:11.040 --> 00:46:13.176 It's one of those things like a football 00:46:13.200 --> 00:46:16.200 club um that you do because you love 00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:18.936 it and you know and it has such amazing 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:21.960 benefits um within the community um you 00:46:22.720 --> 00:46:24.376 know and the the children and the 00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:27.400 education they get and the the um you 00:46:27.680 --> 00:46:30.295 know friends that they make for life 00:46:30.319 --> 00:46:33.319 and um so you know I was really um happy 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:38.119 that we've got it in now. Um, I just 00:46:38.160 --> 00:46:39.656 kind of always felt like I was like, 00:46:39.680 --> 00:46:41.736 "Oh, well, you know, sporting clubs can 00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:43.656 get this and they get that and they get 00:46:43.680 --> 00:46:46.680 more and that and you know, 100 quarter 00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:49.335 of a million more." Um, so I'm really 00:46:49.359 --> 00:46:52.359 excited that my industry and martial 00:46:52.720 --> 00:46:55.720 arts studios and drama studios and 00:46:56.240 --> 00:46:58.456 that type of thing that bring , you 00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.256 know, so much joy to our community , 00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.280 can get some of their money back too. 00:47:04.560 --> 00:47:07.560 so um but my question was how did you 00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.936 come up with the one to four employees? 00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.256 Miss Waters, 00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:17.736 I'll direct that question through. Thank 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:19.496 you. 00:47:19.520 --> 00:47:22.520 Thank you. And through you, Mayor Oxley, 00:47:22.560 --> 00:47:24.456 um we worked through that and I probably 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:26.536 have to take part of it on notice, but 00:47:26.560 --> 00:47:29.256 it was working through um what type of 00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:31.736 organizations they would be, how many 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:33.016 employees we thought they would be, 00:47:33.040 --> 00:47:34.776 right? Um we did discuss it at a 00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:36.776 councelor briefing as well and then 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:38.376 looking at that that annual turn 00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:40.776 turnover but I'm happy to provide more 00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.256 detail about how we came to it. 00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.280 Um yeah cuz and how how is it that you 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.480 um will work out what eligible employees 00:47:50.240 --> 00:47:52.216 how do you assess how are you planning 00:47:52.240 --> 00:47:55.240 to assess that? Sorry, 00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.295 Miss Waters. 00:47:58.319 --> 00:48:00.536 dur through the application process. 00:48:00.560 --> 00:48:02.376 Um again I haven't seen the application 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.400 process but I assume we would ask um ask 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:07.736 applicants how many employees that they 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:08.936 have. 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:11.960 Okay. I think that we should um take it 00:48:13.200 --> 00:48:16.200 up to about 10 employees. Um in my 00:48:17.200 --> 00:48:20.200 industry what happens is that um you 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.416 know because you kind of it's erratic 00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:27.335 and then teachers teach at lots of 00:48:27.359 --> 00:48:29.095 different schools like you kind of maybe 00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:30.936 come in for an afternoon session when 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:32.696 the kids finish school or a Saturday 00:48:32.720 --> 00:48:35.095 morning. So sometimes, you know, you're 00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:36.856 a really small business, but you do 00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.880 have, you know, more than four staff. 00:48:40.160 --> 00:48:42.295 Um, you know, if you get some admin and 00:48:42.319 --> 00:48:44.616 support and some marketing support as 00:48:44.640 --> 00:48:47.496 well. Um, would we have to amend 00:48:47.520 --> 00:48:50.520 something like that now in this motion? 00:48:53.040 --> 00:48:54.776 Yes. 00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:57.800 Yes. Um, can you help me put up a an 00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:01.880 amendment that says um under 3.1.1 00:49:05.040 --> 00:49:08.040 um that the eligibility for 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:11.480 businesses is for between 1 to 10 00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:14.760 employees. 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:18.936 I just want to make sure that if this is 00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:21.256 going um out to our community, then it's 00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:24.280 fit for purpose. 00:49:29.839 --> 00:49:32.839 Yeah, just bear with me. 00:49:42.720 --> 00:49:45.575 Um, 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.599 would it just be 00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:06.280 So it would be an additional point 1 C 00:50:06.720 --> 00:50:09.720 and 1 C would read subject to the 00:50:11.200 --> 00:50:13.976 following changes um that the 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:16.856 eligibility criteria for small business 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:18.936 definition. 00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:21.960 So just that the eligibility criteria 00:50:31.680 --> 00:50:34.680 for small business definition 00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:44.216 be changed to 00:50:44.240 --> 00:50:47.240 1 to 10 employees. 00:50:47.520 --> 00:50:49.176 Thank you. Sorry, I have one more 00:50:49.200 --> 00:50:49.496 question. 00:50:49.520 --> 00:50:52.520 Just bear with me just for one moment. 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.800 I need a seconder for that first. So 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:04.216 that is an amendment. actually first 00:51:04.240 --> 00:51:07.240 up is who is the mover? Councelor Saab. 00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:11.016 Councelor Saab, are you agreeable to that 00:51:11.040 --> 00:51:14.040 as an amendment? 00:51:16.720 --> 00:51:18.136 Can you show it on the screen again 00:51:18.160 --> 00:51:21.160 please? 00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:25.736 Sure. 00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:27.335 Council Ashworth Colette, are you also 00:51:27.359 --> 00:51:30.216 agreeable to that as an amendment? 00:51:30.240 --> 00:51:31.575 Yes, that's fine. 00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:34.599 So that becomes part of the motion. 00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:51.016 Thank you. Your question, Council White. 00:51:51.040 --> 00:51:53.976 Um, so will it literally just be that 00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:56.216 people say, "Oh, we've got five 00:51:56.240 --> 00:51:58.616 employees and and that's it." You don't 00:51:58.640 --> 00:52:01.095 kind of get anything further from them 00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.736 with relation to that. 00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:05.575 Miss Waters, 00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:07.736 thank you. and through you, Mayor Oxley, 00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:09.815 we would um require people to give us 00:52:09.839 --> 00:52:11.736 annual statements or annual reports to 00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:14.760 verify um employee numbers and also the 00:52:15.520 --> 00:52:17.016 financial 00:52:17.040 --> 00:52:19.256 um revenue. 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.280 so annual statements, sorry. Um I'm 00:52:22.720 --> 00:52:25.720 just trying to think 00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:28.696 and and how does that how does 00:52:28.720 --> 00:52:30.616 exactly does the annual statement show 00:52:30.640 --> 00:52:33.416 their employee numbers? tax lodgements, 00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:34.616 things like that would show the number 00:52:34.640 --> 00:52:36.616 of employees where they'd be required to 00:52:36.640 --> 00:52:38.295 be submitted to the ATO. 00:52:38.319 --> 00:52:40.055 Okay. I'm probably going to have to 00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:42.376 because my industry is really strange 00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:45.400 where um we 00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:48.856 are kind of not employees because we're 00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.496 more like contractors. 00:52:51.520 --> 00:52:54.456 So if we're target we're trying to 00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:57.480 target um and support small businesses 00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:00.136 and we have to make sure it works. Would 00:53:00.160 --> 00:53:02.136 this be something that we can look into 00:53:02.160 --> 00:53:05.160 further and that I can come back to? 00:53:06.240 --> 00:53:08.216 00:53:08.240 --> 00:53:10.295 no because it would be voted on at this 00:53:10.319 --> 00:53:11.575 particular point in time. 00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:14.216 Okay. Um so your time would have now 00:53:14.240 --> 00:53:16.136 elapsed because you've now spoken to the 00:53:16.160 --> 00:53:17.176 motion. 00:53:17.200 --> 00:53:19.256 Okay. Are you moving any further 00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:21.016 amendments? 00:53:21.040 --> 00:53:24.040 , no. I think I'm just going to have a 00:53:24.240 --> 00:53:25.896 look. 00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:27.496 Um, 00:53:27.520 --> 00:53:29.656 I'll have to Is it something that can 00:53:29.680 --> 00:53:31.976 always I could always do a notice of 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:35.000 motion at a later date? , not to 00:53:35.040 --> 00:53:37.095 change council policies within outcoming 00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:38.856 to council reports. So, under the 00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:40.616 governance rules, you would have to be 00:53:40.640 --> 00:53:42.295 looking to change a council policy to do 00:53:42.319 --> 00:53:44.616 that, which you can 00:53:44.640 --> 00:53:45.656 you can do. 00:53:45.680 --> 00:53:48.295 Okay, great. No problem. Thank you. Are 00:53:48.319 --> 00:53:50.216 there any further counselors wishing to 00:53:50.240 --> 00:53:52.216 speak to the motion that now includes 1 00:53:52.240 --> 00:53:55.240 C? Councelor Thanos. 00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.095 Thanks. And and it is a question to Miss 00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:02.119 Waters. I do apologize, but um if we 00:54:02.160 --> 00:54:05.160 were to defer again um so that we can 00:54:05.359 --> 00:54:06.696 get some of this information, understand 00:54:06.720 --> 00:54:08.055 the impacts of what we're about to 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:11.079 change, would it be an impact to what 00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:13.656 we're doing or would you be comfortable 00:54:13.680 --> 00:54:16.680 with a deferral for another month? 00:54:16.720 --> 00:54:17.575 Miss Waters. 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:19.496 Thank you. And through you, Mayor, we do 00:54:19.520 --> 00:54:21.496 um need a council decision on this 00:54:21.520 --> 00:54:24.055 matter. 00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:26.616 Yeah. So, there are grants coming up 00:54:26.640 --> 00:54:28.376 that need the new policy and the 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:29.736 guidelines there. 00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:31.176 So, we do need to make that call. Yeah. 00:54:31.200 --> 00:54:33.496 No, that's all right. , 00:54:33.520 --> 00:54:36.456 I think that I was trying to buy council 00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.295 white some extra time for for for 00:54:38.319 --> 00:54:40.376 further consideration, but as the mayor 00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:43.400 has said, the policy can be adjusted, 00:54:43.520 --> 00:54:46.520 but yeah, we're just going to have to 00:54:46.720 --> 00:54:48.696 make our best decision considering 00:54:48.720 --> 00:54:50.696 what's before us today. 00:54:50.720 --> 00:54:53.720 Thank you. 00:54:56.160 --> 00:54:56.936 An amendment. 00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:58.936 , no, it's not amendment. It's just a 00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:01.960 process that do them all in parts. 00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:05.656 Um 00:55:05.680 --> 00:55:08.055 let me consider that. Let me consider 00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:11.079 that. Thank you, Council. How 00:55:11.359 --> 00:55:13.095 Thank you, Mayor Rossley. I'm just 00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:14.696 wondering how we try and keep this alive 00:55:14.720 --> 00:55:17.176 to preserve um the intent that councelor 00:55:17.200 --> 00:55:19.815 White has and still get a day decision 00:55:19.839 --> 00:55:21.335 tonight. 00:55:21.359 --> 00:55:23.976 So, it would appear to me the obvious 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.216 thing would be to 00:55:26.240 --> 00:55:29.240 defer Council White's amendment until 00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:33.079 next year. 00:55:33.359 --> 00:55:36.359 Is a review from 00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:38.535 council on that? 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.559 Um, it now forms part of the motion. So, 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.000 you would have to vote against a part 00:55:45.040 --> 00:55:46.776 for that to not occur. Otherwise, it 00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:47.656 would occur. 00:55:47.680 --> 00:55:50.680 Okay. Thank you. Thank you, 00:55:50.799 --> 00:55:53.799 Council Agirtan 00:55:54.640 --> 00:55:57.640 Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, if the 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:01.000 Council of Whites amendment is designed 00:56:01.040 --> 00:56:02.856 to 00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:05.656 increase access for genuine small 00:56:05.680 --> 00:56:08.376 businesses to this grant, why don't we 00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.400 cap it at a certain number of 00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:14.616 employees/contractors? 00:56:14.640 --> 00:56:17.016 Um I can't recall the specific 00:56:17.040 --> 00:56:18.936 definition in the tax law. I believe 00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:21.815 it's 50 employees and a turnover. So if 00:56:21.839 --> 00:56:24.839 we say if you're turning over 2 mill 00:56:25.040 --> 00:56:26.295 if you have more than 50 00:56:26.319 --> 00:56:28.456 employees/contractors, 00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:30.535 you are not considered a small business 00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:33.559 under the tax law. Therefore, you're not 00:56:33.680 --> 00:56:36.680 eligible to apply for this grant. 00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.960 um is that something that would make 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:41.815 things more streamlined so we can get 00:56:41.839 --> 00:56:44.839 this um vote happening because decision 00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:48.295 needs to be made. We obviously want 00:56:48.319 --> 00:56:50.535 genuine small businesses to access the 00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:53.559 grants and perhaps if you can consult 00:56:55.040 --> 00:56:58.040 and come back to us um with a suitable 00:56:59.200 --> 00:57:01.016 threshold that would be amazing. Thank 00:57:01.040 --> 00:57:04.040 you. 00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:10.280 Just one second. Councelor Saab, a 00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:13.400 question. 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:18.280 Yeah. , I'd actually like to move an 00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.775 amendment to that. Um, that's now the 00:57:22.799 --> 00:57:25.799 substantive motion. So that 1 C just um 00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:28.456 for the sake of brevity in the 00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:31.480 conversation that's happening for um a 00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:34.295 report so that the eligibility credit 00:57:34.319 --> 00:57:35.736 for small business definition be changed 00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:38.616 to one to 10 employees 00:57:38.640 --> 00:57:41.640 um and a report on 00:57:43.200 --> 00:57:45.736 the effectiveness of this to come back 00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:48.760 to council for review in 00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:50.936 12 months time so that at least there's 00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:52.775 a checkpoint for us to review how that's 00:57:52.799 --> 00:57:55.799 working and gives council an opportunity 00:57:56.160 --> 00:57:59.160 to consider 00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:12.616 councelor Ashworth call it are you 00:58:12.640 --> 00:58:15.640 accepting that as the seconder 00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:19.016 yes that's fine 00:58:19.040 --> 00:58:21.656 thank you 00:58:21.680 --> 00:58:23.496 just I'll come you in a second. 00:58:23.520 --> 00:58:26.456 Councelor Law, can we just include the 00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:28.055 1C as part of the motion so we can see 00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:31.079 the whole motion, please? Governance. 00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:43.400 Thank you, 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.760 Council Law. 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.696 Thank you, Mayor. Can you hear me? Okay. 00:58:48.720 --> 00:58:50.055 Yes, we can. 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.216 Thank you. I just have two requests. 00:58:52.240 --> 00:58:55.240 First is if we can please vote on 1 C in 00:58:55.359 --> 00:58:56.936 parts. 00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:59.416 so I'll be putting all of 1 A, B and 00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:00.775 C in parts. 00:59:00.799 --> 00:59:02.936 All right. Thank you. And second request 00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:04.696 is can I make an amendment to that 00:59:04.720 --> 00:59:06.456 amendment? 00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:08.295 you can make an amendment as it's now 00:59:08.319 --> 00:59:09.656 part of the substantive. What's the 00:59:09.680 --> 00:59:11.976 amendment you're wanting to make? 00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:15.000 could we please adjust where it says 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:18.280 change to 1 to 10 employees? 00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:27.559 and instead change the item to say that 00:59:28.240 --> 00:59:30.376 the eligibility criteria for small 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:32.775 businesses is as defined under 00:59:32.799 --> 00:59:34.535 industrial relations and employment law 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.559 in Victoria. 00:59:38.160 --> 00:59:41.160 Oh my god. 00:59:53.200 --> 00:59:54.856 And that council receive a report and 00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:57.880 continue from there. 00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:02.280 When you refer to industrial relations 01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:04.775 or whatever the regulations in 01:00:04.799 --> 01:00:06.696 employment law, what is it specifically 01:00:06.720 --> 01:00:08.696 that you're referring to? Cuz it's 01:00:08.720 --> 01:00:09.976 usually for small business. 01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:11.416 The definition of a small business 01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:14.440 enterprise is 15 employees or less 01:00:14.799 --> 01:00:17.095 and that may change over time. So I'm 01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:19.496 making sure that if we put forward 01:00:19.520 --> 01:00:21.575 this criteria that it aligns with 01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:23.896 current policy regarding employment law 01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:25.256 and what the definition of a small 01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:28.216 business is. So just to clarify as 01:00:28.240 --> 01:00:30.376 defined under industrial regulations and 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.016 employment law what are we referring to 01:00:33.040 --> 01:00:35.656 with that so that we are abundantly 01:00:35.680 --> 01:00:38.376 clear. so it's industrial relations 01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:40.295 not regulations 01:00:40.319 --> 01:00:41.976 and employment law and industrial 01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:43.656 relations 01:00:43.680 --> 01:00:45.095 provide the definition of a small 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:47.256 business which at present is 15 01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:49.496 employees or fewer but that may change 01:00:49.520 --> 01:00:51.496 because it's not governed by council 01:00:51.520 --> 01:00:54.520 policy. 01:01:07.680 --> 01:01:09.815 Okay. 01:01:09.839 --> 01:01:10.616 Thank you, Mayor. 01:01:10.640 --> 01:01:13.256 Councelor Saab as the mover. Are you 01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:16.280 accepting of that? 01:01:16.720 --> 01:01:17.896 Yeah. 01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:19.416 Councilor Ashworth Colette as the 01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:21.176 seconder. 01:01:21.200 --> 01:01:22.456 Yes. 01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.176 Thank you. So it now becomes part of the 01:01:25.200 --> 01:01:28.200 substantive. 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:34.936 Council Aan a question 01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:37.575 question/ comment. I believe 01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:40.295 councelor law was referring to fair work 01:01:40.319 --> 01:01:43.319 act 2009 that defined small business as 01:01:43.839 --> 01:01:46.136 having fewer than 15 employees at a 01:01:46.160 --> 01:01:49.160 particular time. The head count however 01:01:49.359 --> 01:01:51.736 includes all employees including 01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:53.896 employees that are dismissed but 01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:56.295 excludes casual employees. So there's a 01:01:56.319 --> 01:01:59.319 bit more to that definition. So if we 01:01:59.359 --> 01:02:01.815 can perhaps agree on the number of 15 01:02:01.839 --> 01:02:03.496 being total number of 01:02:03.520 --> 01:02:06.376 employees/contractors 01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:09.256 that will allow us to move forward. 01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:12.280 Thank you. 01:02:45.200 --> 01:02:47.736 Right. Council how a question. 01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:50.295 Thank you. Yes. Um can somebody please 01:02:50.319 --> 01:02:53.256 give me an indicative number of what the 01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:55.016 financial turnover could be for a 01:02:55.040 --> 01:02:57.416 business which is between 10 and 15 01:02:57.440 --> 01:02:59.496 people? 01:02:59.520 --> 01:03:01.095 Because if someone tells me the figure 01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:04.119 is north of $2 million or $3 million, I 01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:06.775 think that would actually add some 01:03:06.799 --> 01:03:09.799 weight to what we're looking at. 01:03:11.200 --> 01:03:13.095 Um 01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:15.496 I'm not sure who I can get to actually 01:03:15.520 --> 01:03:18.136 answer that question. Is it even a 01:03:18.160 --> 01:03:19.656 question? 01:03:19.680 --> 01:03:21.176 Council H. If I could just seek some 01:03:21.200 --> 01:03:22.295 clarification from you through the 01:03:22.319 --> 01:03:24.456 mayor. Are you asking a question? If 01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:27.015 this motion gets adopted, what the 01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:28.936 financial impact would be to council in 01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:30.376 the through the grants program? 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:33.400 Um, thank you, Mr. Bean. No, I'm not. 01:03:34.160 --> 01:03:36.696 I'm actually asking for the criteria of 01:03:36.720 --> 01:03:39.720 selection. Is a small business with 15 01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:43.880 employees likely to generate what sort 01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:46.616 of revenue? So, if somebody tells me 01:03:46.640 --> 01:03:49.176 that revenue is going to be 01:03:49.200 --> 01:03:50.936 $10 million, I don't think that's a 01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:52.775 small business. 01:03:52.799 --> 01:03:55.095 And I think that would weigh 01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:56.376 significantly how we actually look at 01:03:56.400 --> 01:03:59.335 this motion. 01:03:59.359 --> 01:04:01.095 I think one thing in respect sorry 01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:03.575 through you mayor oxley to councelor 01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:06.216 how I think one thing with this is that 01:04:06.240 --> 01:04:08.616 we have created our grants platform 01:04:08.640 --> 01:04:11.095 around you know using the staff that we 01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:12.696 have and their knowledge and and 01:04:12.720 --> 01:04:14.295 understanding of the businesses within 01:04:14.319 --> 01:04:16.216 Kingston around I guess those who need 01:04:16.240 --> 01:04:18.696 the help the most. I think often 01:04:18.720 --> 01:04:20.376 staffing numbers don't necessarily 01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:23.400 define how much support actual an entity 01:04:24.319 --> 01:04:26.775 would need one over another. You could 01:04:26.799 --> 01:04:28.376 find an incredibly profitable business 01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:30.295 that runs with four staff, yet you could 01:04:30.319 --> 01:04:32.136 find a business that runs with 15 staff 01:04:32.160 --> 01:04:34.936 that has really poor turnover and and 01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:37.960 really is struggling for for um you know 01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:40.216 to understand just what what it needs 01:04:40.240 --> 01:04:42.216 and where they would be eligible for a 01:04:42.240 --> 01:04:45.240 grant. So, I think it's I understand the 01:04:45.839 --> 01:04:47.015 question that you're asking, but it's 01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:48.616 not really a question I can clearly 01:04:48.640 --> 01:04:50.535 define here whilst you're having to make 01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:53.559 a decision. , and I'm just potentially 01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:55.496 suggesting that maybe we try and stick 01:04:55.520 --> 01:04:57.575 with what was more proposed in the in 01:04:57.599 --> 01:04:58.856 the original motion rather than what 01:04:58.880 --> 01:04:59.976 we're talking about now. Maybe we could 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.376 come back to consider what this is here. 01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:03.736 And I think councelor S was sort of 01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:05.575 intimating something along those lines. 01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:06.936 It's maybe not exactly what I said, but 01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:09.095 I just think that we're getting quite 01:05:09.119 --> 01:05:11.896 consumed in trying to make decisions on 01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:13.976 the fly, and it might be better if maybe 01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:15.656 we came back to council with a better 01:05:15.680 --> 01:05:18.680 informed position. 01:05:19.520 --> 01:05:22.520 Council White, a question. 01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:26.599 Um, so even though this amendment, , 01:05:26.720 --> 01:05:29.176 does it still include the less than 2 01:05:29.200 --> 01:05:30.696 million 01:05:30.720 --> 01:05:33.256 or Yes, it still includes the two less 01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:36.280 than 2 million. Can I amend it? Um, 01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:42.039 I think that it should be rather than 01:05:42.240 --> 01:05:44.616 the small business definition defined on 01:05:44.640 --> 01:05:47.015 the industrial relations and employment. 01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:49.815 I think we should just keep it to 15 01:05:49.839 --> 01:05:52.839 employees or contractors or fewer 01:05:55.200 --> 01:05:58.200 is the best way to do it. 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:22.295 If you're removing what is a definition 01:06:22.319 --> 01:06:24.055 in terms of industrial relations and 01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:27.079 employment law being fair work act, 01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:29.736 I don't think I could accept that as an 01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:30.696 amendment. 01:06:30.720 --> 01:06:32.775 because it's directly negates what's now 01:06:32.799 --> 01:06:35.799 in the motion. 01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:39.079 Council Saab, a question. 01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.256 No, may I'd like to put this to a vote. 01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:43.896 We This has been deferred. Um, 01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:44.775 okay. 01:06:44.799 --> 01:06:46.696 What What do you mean by that? Sorry. 01:06:46.720 --> 01:06:49.095 Councilor White is in the process of at 01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:50.936 the moment. Then I can deal with a put 01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:53.960 motion if that's what you're moving. 01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:57.656 Are you moving an amendment? 01:06:57.680 --> 01:07:00.216 Yeah. I I just think that to cuz I know 01:07:00.240 --> 01:07:02.616 this has gone on forever now 01:07:02.640 --> 01:07:04.856 that it would that it would read like 01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:07.416 the original one but you would say 01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:09.736 instead of just saying employees you 01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:12.760 would say contractors as well 01:07:13.520 --> 01:07:16.520 and then it fixes it. 01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:20.456 Why didn't you like that? 01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:23.480 Pause for one moment. 01:07:32.240 --> 01:07:35.240 Yeah. Or slash. 01:07:41.520 --> 01:07:44.520 Sorry everyone. 01:07:54.720 --> 01:07:57.720 There is 01:08:18.799 --> 01:08:21.799 six. 01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:39.096 so no, I can't accept that amendment 01:08:39.120 --> 01:08:41.496 because you would be referring to you 01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:43.255 can't remove then the industrial 01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:44.695 relations and employment law cuz that's 01:08:44.719 --> 01:08:46.695 the definition that's then gone into the 01:08:46.719 --> 01:08:49.255 motion. We can't remove that to then 01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:50.856 change that definition from the motion. 01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:52.376 It would directly negate the motion 01:08:52.400 --> 01:08:54.695 that's already been put up. 01:08:54.719 --> 01:08:57.719 I don't understand what that means. But 01:08:57.839 --> 01:09:00.376 um so under the governance rules, when 01:09:00.400 --> 01:09:02.536 you move an amendment, the amendment 01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:04.856 can't negate the motion that's already 01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:06.215 on the table. 01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:06.856 Okay? 01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:08.376 It must either enhance. So you can 01:09:08.400 --> 01:09:09.896 remove something to enhance a motion, 01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:11.735 but it can't negate the motion in doing 01:09:11.759 --> 01:09:13.896 that. What you're doing is negating the 01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:15.735 motion. So going directly against what 01:09:15.759 --> 01:09:17.815 that says by changing it. You can't do 01:09:17.839 --> 01:09:19.255 that. 01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:21.416 Um because my only concern 01:09:21.440 --> 01:09:22.856 are you now moving another amendment 01:09:22.880 --> 01:09:24.056 because you've already spoken to the 01:09:24.080 --> 01:09:24.456 motion. 01:09:24.480 --> 01:09:26.295 No, I have another question. 01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:28.456 Yes. 01:09:28.480 --> 01:09:31.480 With the way it's written now with the 01:09:31.759 --> 01:09:34.456 um eligibility being the small business 01:09:34.480 --> 01:09:37.416 definition. 01:09:37.440 --> 01:09:38.936 How am I trying to what am I trying to 01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:41.016 think of with the way it's written out? 01:09:41.040 --> 01:09:43.815 Does that include contractors? 01:09:43.839 --> 01:09:44.616 No. 01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:46.376 Well, then this is a problem. then it 01:09:46.400 --> 01:09:46.856 just won't. 01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:48.135 Are you now speaking to the motion or 01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:49.335 moving an amendment? You can't speak to 01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:50.695 the motion. You've already spoken to it. 01:09:50.719 --> 01:09:52.695 How is there a way that I can fix this 01:09:52.719 --> 01:09:54.936 so that it's going to work for my 01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:56.456 industry or no? 01:09:56.480 --> 01:09:59.480 So my suggestion at this point is 01:09:59.920 --> 01:10:01.175 perhaps that we 01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:03.496 can I do slashcontractor 01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:06.135 so it goes employees contractor? 01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:08.856 No, because it's changing the motion 01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:10.616 against what the definition is under the 01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:12.776 Fair Work Act based on councelor Law's 01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:15.800 amendment. So no, my suggestion should 01:10:16.080 --> 01:10:17.976 you wish to have this part considered at 01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:20.616 a future meeting would be to approve the 01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:23.416 grants program with the removal of this 01:10:23.440 --> 01:10:26.135 section and we come back to that cuz my 01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:27.496 understanding is it's not one of the 01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:30.520 grants. It's a new category. So should 01:10:31.280 --> 01:10:33.016 you wish to make further amendments and 01:10:33.040 --> 01:10:34.296 perhaps this might have been a cleaner 01:10:34.320 --> 01:10:36.616 way of doing it to begin with. Should 01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:38.695 you wish to make further amendments, 01:10:38.719 --> 01:10:41.416 approve everything else, and defer 01:10:41.440 --> 01:10:43.016 consideration of this for a further 01:10:43.040 --> 01:10:44.936 report considering everything that's 01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:46.536 been discussed this evening. 01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:48.215 Okay. Can you let me know when I have to 01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:50.296 do that? 01:10:50.320 --> 01:10:51.896 Is that you would like to do that? 01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:53.016 , yes, please. 01:10:53.040 --> 01:10:56.040 Wonderful. Just give me just a moment. 01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:31.239 Ready? 01:13:21.280 --> 01:13:24.280 Thank you. 01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:51.800 He's 01:13:52.480 --> 01:13:55.480 not 01:14:32.080 --> 01:14:34.135 Apologies. Can someone clarify what 01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:36.695 we're waiting on? 01:14:36.719 --> 01:14:39.719 an amendment 01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:43.416 council s we're just waiting on the 01:14:43.440 --> 01:14:45.016 drafting an amendment 01:14:45.040 --> 01:14:46.536 that was previously discussed we won't 01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:47.736 be a moment 01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:50.760 thank you 01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:54.520 is this working 01:15:12.480 --> 01:15:15.480 Oh dear. 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:24.920 What's going on? 01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:50.920 Um, point D needs to have the report 01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:54.199 part 01:16:57.840 --> 01:17:00.840 or include that as part of point C 01:17:01.280 --> 01:17:04.280 that incl like the report includes that. 01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:11.016 Yeah. 01:17:11.040 --> 01:17:13.096 Yep. 01:17:13.120 --> 01:17:16.120 Well, D can go into C, but the 01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:34.840 I don't know what 01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:09.560 Just put D. Just put D into C cuz you 01:18:10.400 --> 01:18:13.400 can't change D. 01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.520 It has to stay. 01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:58.600 I'll fix it. 01:19:15.679 --> 01:19:18.679 Change your hand 01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:16.920 I've done 01:20:25.120 --> 01:20:28.120 that. 01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:53.000 You're right. 01:20:57.360 --> 01:20:59.175 So can we just go to the amendment that 01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:02.199 was just drafted please? 01:21:05.360 --> 01:21:08.360 So that would be C as that amendment. 01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:15.496 So reading as follows as highlighted 01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:18.520 just for all counselors. 01:21:21.120 --> 01:21:23.976 Councelor Saab as the mover. Are you 01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:27.000 happy to accept that amendment? 01:21:29.760 --> 01:21:32.760 Just one second. 01:21:36.239 --> 01:21:38.456 I just need to read it um once I get the 01:21:38.480 --> 01:21:41.480 chance. Just a second. 01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:52.056 It might be then redundant, sorry, to 01:21:52.080 --> 01:21:54.536 have the and that council receive a 01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:55.976 further report regarding how this is 01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:57.336 operating within 12 months if we're 01:21:57.360 --> 01:21:59.416 getting a report in the first instance. 01:21:59.440 --> 01:22:01.016 If you're happy to remove that, I'm 01:22:01.040 --> 01:22:02.695 happy to remove that. 01:22:02.719 --> 01:22:03.896 I just Yeah, 01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:05.416 that's fine. I was just trying to keep 01:22:05.440 --> 01:22:06.856 that intact given it had already been 01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:08.056 accepted, but if you're happy to remove 01:22:08.080 --> 01:22:09.736 it, that actually it makes sense. I just 01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:12.760 didn't want to. 01:22:13.280 --> 01:22:15.416 So, as it currently is worded, are you 01:22:15.440 --> 01:22:18.440 happy to accept that? 01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:25.096 Yes. 01:22:25.120 --> 01:22:28.120 Council Ashworth Colette is the second. 01:22:28.320 --> 01:22:30.135 Is there any time frame around when 01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:33.159 we'll be getting the report for this? 01:22:33.679 --> 01:22:36.679 We can add a time frame. 01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:42.536 whatever you think is appropriate or 01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:45.560 staff members think appropriate. 01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:51.976 If we're content in adding just as soon 01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:53.896 as practicable officer's intent is to 01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:56.776 bring that back rather quickly, but 01:22:56.800 --> 01:22:57.655 that's 01:22:57.679 --> 01:23:00.679 that's great. Thank you very much. 01:23:01.440 --> 01:23:02.936 Thank you. So that's accepted by the 01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:05.175 mover and seconder. 01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:07.576 So that now becomes the substantive and 01:23:07.600 --> 01:23:08.856 we'll make sure we have the correct 01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:11.880 substantive. 01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:28.936 Great. Are there any other councilors 01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:31.960 that wish to speak to the substantive? 01:23:35.280 --> 01:23:38.280 There being none, 01:23:39.280 --> 01:23:40.936 I don't think we actually did we have 01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:42.376 any actual amendments on that that we 01:23:42.400 --> 01:23:45.400 voted on? 01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:49.239 No. So, Council Saab can close. Yes. 01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:52.760 Council Saab, do you wish to close? 01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:57.336 Do I get to close now that we've 01:23:57.360 --> 01:23:59.256 approved amendments. I don't think I do. 01:23:59.280 --> 01:24:00.856 Yes, because there were no amendments 01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:03.175 actually voted on. So, you just accepted 01:24:03.199 --> 01:24:05.016 amendments. We only stop a closing if 01:24:05.040 --> 01:24:06.456 there's actually a vote. 01:24:06.480 --> 01:24:07.976 Okay. I'll speak just really quickly to 01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:11.000 it just to clarify given um there's a 01:24:11.120 --> 01:24:12.376 lot going on. And just to remind people 01:24:12.400 --> 01:24:13.816 of what the amendments originally were 01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:15.976 trying to accomplish, um we are going 01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:17.336 through the process of reviewing our 01:24:17.360 --> 01:24:20.135 grants program policies. the original 01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:21.896 amendments that were moved were around 01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:24.920 the um provision of ensuring the base 01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:27.816 amount of funding that our community 01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:29.896 centers receive which is like roughly 01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:32.776 60,000 that that would increase with 01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:34.296 CPI 01:24:34.320 --> 01:24:37.320 um year one year. so that's the base 01:24:37.600 --> 01:24:38.936 funding. However, the other funding 01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:40.536 that's part of this program policy is 01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:42.296 tied to their service delivery. That's 01:24:42.320 --> 01:24:44.376 not changing. But given the current 01:24:44.400 --> 01:24:46.695 provision is to cap it at 90,000 and I 01:24:46.719 --> 01:24:48.215 think we've got two community centers 01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:51.096 that receive 88,000. If we were to have 01:24:51.120 --> 01:24:53.816 the increase of the CPI of 3% that would 01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:56.215 eventually hit that ceiling um within a 01:24:56.239 --> 01:24:57.655 couple of years. So I'm giving 01:24:57.679 --> 01:25:00.135 opportunity and leeway to encourage our 01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:02.536 community centers to continue to provide 01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:04.536 high quality of services that tailored 01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:06.056 to our community and can reach a number 01:25:06.080 --> 01:25:09.080 of community members. um while also 01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:11.256 giving the opportunity to give them the 01:25:11.280 --> 01:25:13.576 base salary funding as their electriCity 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:15.336 goes up, the water goes up, the regular 01:25:15.360 --> 01:25:16.936 running of their services go up, paying 01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:19.256 for support to run their centers and 01:25:19.280 --> 01:25:21.336 their programs go up. Um that's what 01:25:21.360 --> 01:25:22.856 this amendment was trying to 01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:24.856 accomplish and achieve. I think we can 01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:25.896 do that. I think it's really 01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:27.096 appropriate. I think we're all around 01:25:27.120 --> 01:25:28.776 the table pretty supportive of the work 01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:31.800 that our community centers do. Um 01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:35.736 that's it. Thank you. 01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:38.760 Thank you, Council S. I will now put 1A 01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:43.560 to the vote. 01:25:46.320 --> 01:25:49.320 All those in favor, 01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:51.175 can we just make sure we have it on the 01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:53.096 screen? Sorry. Just so people know what 01:25:53.120 --> 01:25:56.120 they're voting on. 01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:08.199 Thank you. So 1 A. All those in favor 01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:12.840 that is carried unanimously. 01:26:30.480 --> 01:26:33.480 One B. 01:26:51.440 --> 01:26:54.440 All those in favor 1B 01:26:57.120 --> 01:26:59.175 that is councelor how councelor 01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:00.776 Athanosopoulos 01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:03.096 councelor White, councelor Ashworth, 01:27:03.120 --> 01:27:06.056 Colette, Councelor Saab, Councelor Law, 01:27:06.080 --> 01:27:09.080 Councelor Hill, all those against, 01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:12.215 Council O'Donnell, Council Agirtan, 01:27:12.239 --> 01:27:15.016 Councelor Revitus, and myself. 01:27:15.040 --> 01:27:18.040 that is carried. 01:27:29.360 --> 01:27:32.360 And one C 01:27:46.080 --> 01:27:48.296 All those in favor 01:27:48.320 --> 01:27:51.320 of 1 C 01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:54.056 that is councelor Athanosopoulos, 01:27:54.080 --> 01:27:55.896 councelor White, councelor Ashworth, 01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:58.695 Colette, councelor Saab, councelor Hill 01:27:58.719 --> 01:28:01.719 and myself. 01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:14.776 All those against. 01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:17.016 Councelor How, Councelor O'Donnell, 01:28:17.040 --> 01:28:20.040 councelor Agirtan, councelor Reanus 01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:26.936 and abstaining. 01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:29.416 Councelor Law, 01:28:29.440 --> 01:28:30.776 councelor Thanosopolis, what was your 01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:32.776 you were four 01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:35.800 for councelor Athanosopoulos. 01:28:36.480 --> 01:28:39.480 Thank you. And that is carried. 01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:43.880 Then we have items two and three. 01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:05.800 All those in favor. 01:29:08.639 --> 01:29:11.256 Two and three. 01:29:11.280 --> 01:29:13.016 What was in the original officer 01:29:13.040 --> 01:29:15.896 recommendation? Two and three. 01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:18.920 All those in favor? 01:29:19.920 --> 01:29:22.456 Councelor How, Councelor O'Donnell, 01:29:22.480 --> 01:29:24.376 Councelor Thanosopoulos, Councelor 01:29:24.400 --> 01:29:26.215 White, Councelor Agirtan, Councelor 01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:27.816 Aidus. 01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:30.840 Carried unanimously. Thank you. 01:29:33.679 --> 01:29:36.679 Thank you. 01:29:42.320 --> 01:29:45.320 That was report number one. 01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:47.655 item 8.2 the individual development 01:29:47.679 --> 01:29:49.096 grants and community small grants. 01:29:49.120 --> 01:29:52.120 Council Ashworth Colette. 01:29:52.159 --> 01:29:53.976 I've got a conflict of interest. Thank 01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:54.776 you. 01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:57.800 Thank you. 01:30:04.080 --> 01:30:07.080 Sorry, I need one moment. 01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:16.776 It's wonderful. Thank you. , do I have 01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:19.800 a motion, counselors? 01:30:22.480 --> 01:30:23.736 Councelor O'Donnell, the office of 01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:26.760 recommendation. A seconder, councelor 01:30:27.040 --> 01:30:29.336 Erevnidis. Thank you. Do you wish to speak 01:30:29.360 --> 01:30:32.360 to the motion? Reserve. Reserve. Any 01:30:32.639 --> 01:30:35.639 councilors? 01:30:36.080 --> 01:30:37.496 There being none, I will put that to the 01:30:37.520 --> 01:30:40.520 vote. All those in favor? 01:30:41.360 --> 01:30:43.976 That is carried unanimously. Thank you. 01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:45.655 Noting councelor Ashworth collect. Thank 01:30:45.679 --> 01:30:48.679 you. 01:30:51.040 --> 01:30:52.776 If we can invite councilworth collect 01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:55.496 back. Thank you. And we'll move to item 01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:58.520 8.3 the women of the year awards. 01:30:59.040 --> 01:31:01.496 Noting that the appendices are 01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:03.655 confidential. 01:31:03.679 --> 01:31:05.816 Do I have a motion? 01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:07.576 Councelor O'Donnell and seconded 01:31:07.600 --> 01:31:09.896 councelor How? Thank you. Do you wish to 01:31:09.920 --> 01:31:12.920 speak to the motion? 01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:19.336 Pardon? 01:31:19.360 --> 01:31:22.360 Um, I'm excited about this awards. 01:31:22.880 --> 01:31:25.816 Whilst we are obviously 01:31:25.840 --> 01:31:28.840 supporting businesses that have had some 01:31:29.360 --> 01:31:30.856 struggles, I think we should also be 01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:33.016 supporting up and cominging talent or 01:31:33.040 --> 01:31:34.856 already their talent that needs 01:31:34.880 --> 01:31:37.576 acknowledgement. Um, really excited to 01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:40.376 see the new category of young women of 01:31:40.400 --> 01:31:43.400 the year coming out. Um, I think that 01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:45.256 especially in the age group that this 01:31:45.280 --> 01:31:46.536 falls into, to be able to have an 01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:48.615 opportunity for the recognition within 01:31:48.639 --> 01:31:51.639 your City is an awesome opportunity to 01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:57.256 open doors, expand opportunities, meet 01:31:57.280 --> 01:31:59.336 new people, network, whatever else that 01:31:59.360 --> 01:32:02.056 can come with it. Um, because sometimes 01:32:02.080 --> 01:32:04.615 that can be really challenging. And so, 01:32:04.639 --> 01:32:06.215 I'm really looking forward to this this 01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:08.856 year's event. um can't wait to be there 01:32:08.880 --> 01:32:11.880 to to celebrate all nominated and those 01:32:12.719 --> 01:32:15.719 that take the prize on the day. So 01:32:16.880 --> 01:32:18.536 looking forward to it. Come along. You 01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:21.560 can book online. Um and it really is 01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:23.816 it's a great event, great opportunity. 01:32:23.840 --> 01:32:25.096 So yeah, can't wait to see you all 01:32:25.120 --> 01:32:26.936 there. B. 01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:28.776 Thank you, Councelor O'Donnell. 01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:31.175 Councelor How? 01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:33.336 Thank you. 01:32:33.360 --> 01:32:36.360 Any other counselors on this motion? 01:32:38.719 --> 01:32:40.536 There being none, I will put that to the 01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:43.560 vote. All those in favor 01:32:45.120 --> 01:32:47.655 is carried unanimously noting council 01:32:47.679 --> 01:32:49.336 Ashworth Colette, councelor 01:32:49.360 --> 01:32:52.360 thanosopolis, and council white. 01:32:53.679 --> 01:32:56.376 Thank you very much. 01:32:56.400 --> 01:32:59.400 Item 8.4, the community awards for 2026. 01:33:00.400 --> 01:33:03.400 Do I have a motion? Councilan, and a 01:33:03.679 --> 01:33:06.456 seconder, councelor How. 01:33:06.480 --> 01:33:08.695 Thank you councelor Agirtan reserve 01:33:08.719 --> 01:33:10.376 councelor how 01:33:10.400 --> 01:33:13.400 any other councils on this motion 01:33:16.080 --> 01:33:17.496 there being none I will put that to the 01:33:17.520 --> 01:33:20.520 vote all those in favor 01:33:22.560 --> 01:33:25.560 that is carried unanimously Okay. 01:33:35.360 --> 01:33:38.360 Thank you. Item 9.1, the contract award 01:33:39.040 --> 01:33:41.816 at GR Bricker Reserve. 01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:43.576 A motion. 01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:45.496 Councelor Saab and seconded Council 01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:47.336 Agirtan 01:33:47.360 --> 01:33:50.360 Do you wish to speak to the motion? 01:33:50.560 --> 01:33:53.560 Just just briefly. Um this is a 01:33:54.320 --> 01:33:55.896 well-known project. It's come before 01:33:55.920 --> 01:33:57.976 council a few times. First when we 01:33:58.000 --> 01:33:59.896 endorsed the project, second when we 01:33:59.920 --> 01:34:02.920 were endorsing um this project to go out 01:34:03.040 --> 01:34:05.816 for the EOI. now we're just awarding 01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:08.056 the contract. Um I've said a lot about 01:34:08.080 --> 01:34:10.856 this project already um and the 01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:13.336 preceding one. So I just wanted to 01:34:13.360 --> 01:34:15.175 commend it. 01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:18.199 Thank you councelor Reserve. Any other 01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:21.560 councilors on this motion? 01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:23.256 There being none, I will put that to the 01:34:23.280 --> 01:34:26.280 vote. All those in favor 01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:29.560 that is carried unanimously. Thank you. 01:34:31.040 --> 01:34:33.256 yeah, 01:34:33.280 --> 01:34:36.280 just 01:34:36.400 --> 01:34:37.655 council s 01:34:37.679 --> 01:34:40.456 sorry just to um query through to you 01:34:40.480 --> 01:34:42.776 may if governance can assist. I think 01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:44.936 councelor Ashworth collect is having 01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:47.016 trouble getting back into the meeting. 01:34:47.040 --> 01:34:48.135 if they can assist. 01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:50.536 I I think governance have been liazing 01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:53.560 there. Yes. Thank you. 01:34:54.320 --> 01:34:57.096 we'll move to item 9.2. 01:34:57.120 --> 01:34:59.096 The contract award at Belby Street 01:34:59.120 --> 01:35:01.256 Moraban Road reconstruction and drainage 01:35:01.280 --> 01:35:04.280 upgrade. Council SA and a seconder. 01:35:05.120 --> 01:35:08.120 Councilor O'Donnell. Thank you, 01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:11.256 Council Saab. 01:35:11.280 --> 01:35:13.256 Similar comments as the one previous. 01:35:13.280 --> 01:35:15.496 This has been discussed before. Um again 01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:17.576 just endorsing a contract now to begin 01:35:17.600 --> 01:35:19.336 work. So very supportive of it. Commend 01:35:19.360 --> 01:35:21.736 it to my fellow counselors. 01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:24.296 Thank you councelor O'Donnell reserve. 01:35:24.320 --> 01:35:26.456 Any other counselors? 01:35:26.480 --> 01:35:29.480 Council law 01:35:29.920 --> 01:35:31.576 mayor could I please request that we 01:35:31.600 --> 01:35:33.655 pause the meeting until council Ash 01:35:33.679 --> 01:35:36.456 collect can return to the meeting. 01:35:36.480 --> 01:35:38.056 Are you seeking an adjournment of the 01:35:38.080 --> 01:35:40.856 meeting? 01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:42.296 Yes. 01:35:42.320 --> 01:35:45.096 For how long? 01:35:45.120 --> 01:35:47.016 until the audio visual is rectified that 01:35:47.040 --> 01:35:48.536 our counselor can return to the business 01:35:48.560 --> 01:35:51.416 meetings. 01:35:51.440 --> 01:35:54.440 Um okay 01:35:57.360 --> 01:35:59.416 that is 01:35:59.440 --> 01:36:02.440 moved by councelor law 01:36:03.040 --> 01:36:05.256 that the meeting be adjourned 01:36:05.280 --> 01:36:08.280 indefinitely. 01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:13.239 Council 01:36:15.120 --> 01:36:17.096 Saaba question. 01:36:17.120 --> 01:36:19.175 Can we just 01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:22.199 adjourn for a 10 minutes just or 01:36:22.719 --> 01:36:23.976 come? No, we have to actually put it 01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:27.000 until she comes back. Never mind. Sorry. 01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:28.615 So, are you wanting to adjourn the 01:36:28.639 --> 01:36:30.135 meeting until councelor Ashworth collect 01:36:30.159 --> 01:36:31.336 returns to the meeting? Is that what 01:36:31.360 --> 01:36:34.360 you're 01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:37.560 Yes. 01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:46.520 That's fine. That's what's been moved 01:36:49.119 --> 01:36:50.615 until councilor Ashworth Colette 01:36:50.639 --> 01:36:52.776 returns. I will caution counselors that 01:36:52.800 --> 01:36:55.800 that could be indefinitely. 01:36:58.480 --> 01:37:01.480 Yes, we will vote on it. Correct. 01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:04.840 Councelor Saab a question 01:37:06.639 --> 01:37:08.215 or 01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:10.376 sorry can I just instead of indefinitely 01:37:10.400 --> 01:37:13.400 or until councelor Ashwit Klet returns 01:37:13.840 --> 01:37:16.840 um or um to to return back at 8 01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:20.856 50 01:37:20.880 --> 01:37:22.695 I will also make the point that the 01:37:22.719 --> 01:37:24.376 moment we put a time on it even if she 01:37:24.400 --> 01:37:26.615 returns in the next minute we will be 01:37:26.639 --> 01:37:29.639 unable to resume until 8:50. Oh, so not 01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:30.615 even if 01:37:30.639 --> 01:37:32.296 correct one or the other is met. Okay, 01:37:32.320 --> 01:37:34.456 correct 01:37:34.480 --> 01:37:36.296 then I won't do that. 01:37:36.320 --> 01:37:38.536 Can we just do a period of five minutes 01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:39.896 for ease here and if we need to 01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:41.336 readjourn the meeting we can do that 01:37:41.360 --> 01:37:44.215 should councilors wish. 01:37:44.239 --> 01:37:47.239 You will 01:37:47.840 --> 01:37:49.576 councelor law can I request that it be 01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:51.175 for a period of 5 minutes and if we need 01:37:51.199 --> 01:37:52.615 to readjourn the meeting to actually 01:37:52.639 --> 01:37:53.816 allow for the functioning of this 01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:56.376 meeting? 01:37:56.400 --> 01:37:59.400 Yes. 01:38:03.040 --> 01:38:06.040 Do we have a seconder for 01:38:10.560 --> 01:38:12.615 Are we happy to now 01:38:12.639 --> 01:38:15.639 have this not occur? Council of law. 01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:16.456 Yes. 01:38:16.480 --> 01:38:19.480 Thank you. 01:38:19.600 --> 01:38:21.736 We'll move to item 01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:23.816 10.1, the governance and compliance 01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:26.376 report. Do I have a motion, Council 01:38:26.400 --> 01:38:28.135 Agirtan, and a seconder, Councilor 01:38:28.159 --> 01:38:30.296 O'Donnell? 01:38:30.320 --> 01:38:33.320 Any discussion required? 01:38:35.199 --> 01:38:36.856 There being none, I will put it to the 01:38:36.880 --> 01:38:39.880 vote. All those in favor. 01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:44.760 That is carried unanimously. 01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:51.256 We'll move to item 12.1, the notice of 01:38:51.280 --> 01:38:53.016 motion. Councelor White, Kingswood Golf 01:38:53.040 --> 01:38:55.175 Course. Are you moving the motion as it 01:38:55.199 --> 01:38:58.056 appears on the screen? Thank you. Do I 01:38:58.080 --> 01:39:01.080 have a seconder? 01:39:01.280 --> 01:39:03.976 Point of order, Madame May. 01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:06.456 Um, the point of order being 01:39:06.480 --> 01:39:09.480 the point of order is rule 37.2.1 01:39:09.679 --> 01:39:12.679 contrary to these rules of this notice 01:39:12.960 --> 01:39:15.960 of motion. I can go on 01:39:16.080 --> 01:39:16.376 um 01:39:16.400 --> 01:39:17.736 because I think I'm probably going to 01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:19.416 have to considering you don't know which 01:39:19.440 --> 01:39:22.440 ones I'm referring to. Can I suggest one 01:39:23.040 --> 01:39:25.655 second here whether or not we have a 01:39:25.679 --> 01:39:28.679 seconder to the motion? 01:39:29.040 --> 01:39:31.496 It doesn't require but that's okay 01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:33.576 if you want it. 01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:35.576 So that motion lapses for want of a 01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:36.215 seconder. 01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:37.655 The point of order was put before the 01:39:37.679 --> 01:39:39.576 motion. 01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:41.736 01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:43.496 I'm not going to rule on that point of 01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:45.496 order given that the motions that have 01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:46.936 made it into the agenda have been 01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:49.496 assessed under the governance rules. So 01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:51.095 assuming that they are in the agenda and 01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:53.095 that assessment has been made, I'm not 01:39:53.119 --> 01:39:54.695 going to rule on that point of order as 01:39:54.719 --> 01:39:55.976 it's not something now within the 01:39:56.000 --> 01:39:57.736 meeting. It's something that's occurred 01:39:57.760 --> 01:39:58.936 prior to the meeting in the assessment 01:39:58.960 --> 01:40:01.336 of the governance rules. So not within 01:40:01.360 --> 01:40:03.256 my purview. 01:40:03.280 --> 01:40:05.416 I'll move to item 12.2, the Morty 01:40:05.440 --> 01:40:07.496 Aquatic Center artwork inquiry. 01:40:07.520 --> 01:40:09.736 Councelor White, are you moving that as 01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:12.760 it appears on the screen? Correct. 01:40:13.280 --> 01:40:14.936 And do I have a seconder for that 01:40:14.960 --> 01:40:17.960 motion? 01:40:21.520 --> 01:40:23.896 And that motion lapses for want of a 01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:25.576 seconder. 01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:28.135 I'll move to item 12.3. Councelor 01:40:28.159 --> 01:40:30.056 Whitley Drews organization funding. 01:40:30.080 --> 01:40:32.776 Councelor Saab a conflict of interest I 01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:33.576 believe. 01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:36.056 Yes. I'd just like to declare a 01:40:36.080 --> 01:40:37.896 general conflict of interest as I sit on 01:40:37.920 --> 01:40:40.376 the executive of this committee. 01:40:40.400 --> 01:40:42.056 Thank you. We'll note that. If you can 01:40:42.080 --> 01:40:45.080 please leave the meeting. 01:40:47.920 --> 01:40:50.296 Wonderful. Thank you. 01:40:50.320 --> 01:40:51.896 Councelor White, are you moving as it 01:40:51.920 --> 01:40:54.215 appears on the screen? 01:40:54.239 --> 01:40:56.376 Thank you. That is moved. Councelor 01:40:56.400 --> 01:40:58.536 White, do I have a second 01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:00.456 point of order? That 01:41:00.480 --> 01:41:01.896 if it's the same point of order, it will 01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:03.256 be the same ruling. 01:41:03.280 --> 01:41:05.816 , it may be, but it's just contrary to 01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:07.496 these rules. I'm not necessarily 01:41:07.520 --> 01:41:10.135 referring to the fact that it's made 01:41:10.159 --> 01:41:12.936 the agenda. So what is it then that you 01:41:12.960 --> 01:41:15.095 are suggesting is contrary to the rules? 01:41:15.119 --> 01:41:17.256 Well, the motion possesses to cease any 01:41:17.280 --> 01:41:19.016 further grants funding to a specific 01:41:19.040 --> 01:41:20.856 named organization without providing 01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:23.256 full context and rationale as required 01:41:23.280 --> 01:41:25.496 under the governance rules. The agenda 01:41:25.520 --> 01:41:27.336 does not identify any breach of council 01:41:27.360 --> 01:41:28.615 policy integrity. 01:41:28.639 --> 01:41:30.135 So what section are we referring to that 01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:31.896 it's breaching please? What number? 01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:34.920 Well, it's under 24.9.5 and 24.9.2. 01:41:44.480 --> 01:41:45.816 engage your rule 24. 01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:47.175 if you can just pause for just a 01:41:47.199 --> 01:41:48.296 moment while I consider because you've 01:41:48.320 --> 01:41:48.776 given the 01:41:48.800 --> 01:41:50.135 Yeah, but so that everyone that's 01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:51.816 watching understands those rules. 01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:54.135 Yeah. So this is in consideration of it. 01:41:54.159 --> 01:41:56.056 You've given me the rules. So I'm happy 01:41:56.080 --> 01:41:57.576 to go through those but if you can just 01:41:57.600 --> 01:41:58.776 pause for a moment and then I'll be able 01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:00.296 to if I need further information get 01:42:00.320 --> 01:42:03.320 that further information. 01:42:09.679 --> 01:42:11.976 So just to clarify you were referring to 01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:14.456 24.5 was that the one 01:42:14.480 --> 01:42:17.336 24.9.5 01:42:17.360 --> 01:42:18.776 as the motion is objectionable rule 01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:20.215 in nature and by signaling our 01:42:20.239 --> 01:42:21.576 immunization for adverse treatment 01:42:21.600 --> 01:42:22.615 without governance or 01:42:22.639 --> 01:42:24.376 policy same ruling councelor 01:42:24.400 --> 01:42:27.400 thanosopoulos in terms of the motion was 01:42:27.679 --> 01:42:29.175 allowed in the agenda that occurred 01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:31.095 prior to this meeting it was assessed 01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:32.615 under the governance rules and allowed 01:42:32.639 --> 01:42:34.856 to be included in the agenda. 01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:36.695 that is outside my purview of deciding 01:42:36.719 --> 01:42:39.719 at this meeting and subsequently will 01:42:39.760 --> 01:42:40.936 allow it to proceed. 01:42:40.960 --> 01:42:43.960 24.9.2 01:42:46.239 --> 01:42:48.615 correct it's all under 24.9 which refers 01:42:48.639 --> 01:42:50.135 to the chief executive officer may 01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:52.615 reject any notice of motion which Thank 01:42:52.639 --> 01:42:53.976 you. Are there any other further points 01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:55.256 of order? 01:42:55.280 --> 01:42:58.280 Thank you. Councelor White has moved 01:42:58.639 --> 01:43:01.639 that motion. Do I have a seconder? 01:43:04.639 --> 01:43:06.936 There being none, that motion lapses for 01:43:06.960 --> 01:43:09.960 want of a seconder. Are there any items 01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:13.000 of urgent business this evening? 01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:19.496 Yep. 01:43:19.520 --> 01:43:21.175 I will wait just to check if councelor 01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:22.856 Saab has any items of urgent business 01:43:22.880 --> 01:43:25.880 before we may move. 01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:31.000 Council 01:43:40.320 --> 01:43:41.736 S, do you have any items of urgent 01:43:41.760 --> 01:43:44.760 business? 01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:48.376 No, ma'am. 01:43:48.400 --> 01:43:51.400 Thank you. Can I please have a motion to 01:43:51.679 --> 01:43:53.896 move in camera? 01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:56.920 Moved. Councelor Agirtan and seconded 01:43:57.119 --> 01:43:59.175 councelor How. 01:43:59.199 --> 01:44:02.199 All those in favor 01:44:03.679 --> 01:44:05.736 that is councelor How, Councelor 01:44:05.760 --> 01:44:07.655 O'Donnell, councelor Athanosopoulos, 01:44:07.679 --> 01:44:09.736 councelor Agirtan, councelor Reanus, 01:44:09.760 --> 01:44:11.976 councelor Law, councelor Hill, councelor 01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:13.976 Ashworth Colette, councelor Saab and 01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:17.000 myself. All those against and 01:44:17.360 --> 01:44:19.416 abstaining. 01:44:19.440 --> 01:44:22.440 Councelor White. 01:44:22.560 --> 01:44:25.016 That is carried. 01:44:25.040 --> 01:44:26.536 And we will close the meeting to members 01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:28.536 of the public. Thank you all for your 01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:30.376 time in the gallery and for watching at 01:44:30.400 --> 01:44:33.400 home. 01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:37.655 There are no further confidential items. 01:44:37.679 --> 01:44:39.175 Can I have a motion that the meeting be 01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:40.776 open to members of the public? Moved. 01:44:40.800 --> 01:44:42.215 Councelor Athanosopoulos. Seconded. 01:44:42.239 --> 01:44:45.239 Councelor Agirtan All those in favor 01:44:48.960 --> 01:44:50.536 that is councelor how councelor 01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:52.376 O'Donnell councelor Thanosopoulos 01:44:52.400 --> 01:44:54.615 councelor Tan councelor Revanus councel 01:44:54.639 --> 01:44:56.376 law councelor Saab councelor Hill 01:44:56.400 --> 01:44:58.776 councelor Ashworth Klette and myself all 01:44:58.800 --> 01:45:01.016 those against 01:45:01.040 --> 01:45:04.040 and abstaining. 01:45:09.760 --> 01:45:11.336 We'll just note that she's now left the 01:45:11.360 --> 01:45:14.215 chamber. And 01:45:14.239 --> 01:45:17.239 thank you. That is carried. And we will 01:45:17.440 --> 01:45:19.896 close the meeting at 8:51. 01:45:19.920 --> 01:45:22.920 Thank you everyone.