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for tonight the 27th of April. Before we

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begin, the City of Kingston proudly

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acknowledges the Bunurong people of the

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Kulin Nation as the traditional owners

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and custodians of this land and pay our

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respects to their Elders, past, present,

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and emerging.

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Can we just check the gallery sound? Is

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that can't hear anything.

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I'll just pause then for a moment just

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while we see if we can rectify that.

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Apologies.

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Testing. Can you hear us now?

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Yes. Wonderful. Thank you.

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For the purposes of transparency, this

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public meeting is being recorded and

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streamed live on the internet. The

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recording will be archived and available

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on council's website,

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kingston.vic.gov.au

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However, for the purposes of public

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safety, this public meeting is also

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being recorded via CCTV. Audio may be

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heard over the live stream where

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microphones are turned on. However,

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discussion held when microphones are

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switched off will not be a audible to

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those viewing the meeting online. All

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care is taken to maintain your privacy.

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However, visitors in our public gallery,

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your presence may be recorded. I would

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like to thank all members of the public

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gallery and those viewing this meeting

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online for your attendance. However, I

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would remind all attendees that

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disruption, interjection, and

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participation in debate is prohibited

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and attendance at council meetings is in

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an observatory capaCity only unless

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otherwise directed by the chair. Please

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also note that operating photographic

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audio or video recording equipment or

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any other recording device is prohibited

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during the meeting. For accessibility

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purposes, electronic agendas via iPads

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are available to those in the gallery.

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Closed captioning is also available for

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members of the public who are streaming

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this meeting via our website. Before we

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commence the meeting, I will briefly

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explain the voting system. All votes

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taken during a council meeting are

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recorded in the official minutes. Voting

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is conducted by a show of hands and the

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outcome of the motion is determined by a

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majority of votes in favor with the

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chair having a casting vote if the

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result is tied. A councelor may cast a

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vote for or against the motion or

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alternatively choose to abstain from

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voting. However, under section 615E of

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the Local Government Act 2020, if a

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councelor does not cast a vote by

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choosing to abstain, that vote is

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counted as a vote against the motion

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when determining the result of a vote.

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I will also note this evening that since

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the last ordinary council meeting, we

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have had a resignation of a counselor.

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We note the resignation of former

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councelor Law and that a bi-election

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will shortly be held for Melaleuca Ward.

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Council would like to thank former

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councelor Law for her contribution in

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her time as a counselor here at the City

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of Kingston and wish her and her family

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all the best.

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We'll move to item one which is

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apologies and we have an apology

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submitted from councelor white. Can I

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have a motion that that apology be

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accepted? Thank you councelor Agirtan and

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councelor O'Donnell.

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All those in favor

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that is carried unanimously.

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We'll move to item two which is the

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confirmation of minutes from the

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previous meetings.

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We do require a motion that has a slight

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amendment to it and that is just to

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amend item 12.1 from the 23rd of March

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and that is the amendment simply

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clarifies the order of the motions and

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the way that the amendments were moved.

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So it's just a slight change to what is

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printed in the agenda there. Councelor

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O'Donnell. Thank you. A seconder.

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Councelor Erevnidis Thank you.

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All those in favor

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that is carried unanimously. Thank you.

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We'll move to item three which is

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foreshadowed declarations by councilors,

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officers or contractors of any conflicts

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of interest. Councilor Saab.

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Thank you. Mayor I just like to declare a

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general conflict of interest in item

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9.2.

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Are there any other conflicts of

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interest this evening?

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There being none, we'll note that and

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we'll move to item four, which is

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petitions.

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The first petition we have 4.1 an

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objection to the proposed development at

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45 Patterson Street, Bonbeach 

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Councelor Howe.

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Thank you, Mayor Oxley. This petition

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relates to a plan application KP 2025

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504 for restaurant bar 45 Patterson

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Street, Bonbeach 

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Thank you. Do I have a seconder that

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that be referred to the CEO for

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consideration? Councelor Athanasopoulos. Thank

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you.

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Did you wish to speak to the petition?

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Thank you this petition relates to a

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commercial building at Patterson Street.

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The residence issues  are significant.

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There's 68 signatures upon the petition

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and

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the issues raised  range from parking

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where currently there's only 11 car

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parks at the front for a restaurant

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which will seat 80 people there's

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also issues around  access

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unreasonable noise disturbance

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 and certainly some safety concerns.

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Thank you. I now hand this petition to

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the CA for a response. Thank you.

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Thank you, councelor Howe councelor of

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Athanasopoulos

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reserve. Any other councils on the

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petition?

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There being none, I will put that to the

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vote. All those in favor?

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That is carried unanimously. Thank you.

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4.2. We have a petition for the proposed

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increase to cost of classes at Clarinda

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and Sundowner community centers.

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Councelor Athanasopoulos.

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Yeah, we received, sorry, I should say

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we received a petition for that

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increased cost at the Clarinda and Sundowner

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community centers.

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Thank you. A seconder councelor Saab.

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Thank you I think everyone knows

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that the the cost of living for

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everybody's actually gone through the

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roof. But  it is noted that some of

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the elderly groups that do use our

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wonderful facilities down in Clarinda

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and the Sundowner community centers

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have put forward a petition to us  to

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reconsider those costs burdens put

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upon them. So there's 20 signatures

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here  and I'll be handing this over to

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the CEO for a response.

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Thank you councelor Athanasopoulos.

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Councelor Saab

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reserve. Any other councilors?

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There being none, I will put that to the

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vote to all those in favor.

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That is carried unanimously.

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We'll move on to delegates reports,

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council statements, and presentation of

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awards. Councelor O'Donnell.

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Thank you, Mayor Oxley. On Friday, I

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attended the women's pain forum at

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Woodland's Golf Course it was

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the initial forum took place two years

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ago and this is the follow-up to the

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findings that have been received to

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date

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absolutely amazing I'm so supportive of

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what's happening here in this space and

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where it's going during  my time

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there, I got opportunities to speak to

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positive changes that I've seen, but I

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also got to hear stories of

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women in our community that are

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suffering in enormous amounts of pain.

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And one story that was very touching was

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a City of Kingston resident who is 19

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years of age and the impact that it's

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had on her life in such a short space of

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time which has really prompted myself

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and I've spoken with other counselors as

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well. I really want to bring this to the

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grassroots. Bring it to the City of

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Kingston. What we can do to bring women

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and young girls together to

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make sure that we acknowledge what is

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happening. This is so prevalent in our

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community it needs to become we're

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more aware give people the opportunity

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to speak to it what we can do to

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support them and then take back to state

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government what they can do to make sure

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that the voices of young girls and women

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are heard for that level at state

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government where we need to see the

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action taking place

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and that's what I think that we can do.

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So and from this point forward I will

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definitely along with the support of

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other councils that I've spoken to, and

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to those you I haven't got to quite yet,

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it's been mainly female counselors that

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I've spoken to We can do so much more

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in this space I really want to thank 

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Tim Richardson for what he's done with

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the initiative of bringing this forward

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because regardless of putting politics

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aside, bringing this forward to its

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urgency that needs to be addressed.

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Thank you, Tim, for what you've done.

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You know, I will be working with you. We

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had some great conversations in and

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around this space and I look forward to

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where it takes us further and I really

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look forward to working with the fellow

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councils that I've spoken to today and I

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trust me I will get to you all and what

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we can do at our level to make sure that

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we can hear as many voices as possible

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and get the action that it's required

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because it's started but it needs more

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and we can do something at our level in

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local government in the City of

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Kingston. So can't wait for you all to

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join me. We're looking to aim for

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September, but we'll certainly watch

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this space and I'll get back to you.

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Also, a massive acknowledgement for the

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turnout at Longbeach RSL on Saturday

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for Anzac Day. It was the biggest

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turnout that they've had to date. Um

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always incredibly moving and such an

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honor to be a part of it and invited to

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march with return service people this

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this year certainly kept me on my

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toes My marching might need some

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finetuning, but  thank you so much to

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to everyone there and all the the kids,

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the families, the elderly that come out

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and support such a special day in our

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community. Thank you. Thank you,

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councelor O'Donnell. And I will just

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remind councils only one statement.

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Thank you. Thank you. Being Anzac Day,

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I'll allow that final sentence.

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Thank you. are there any other Oh, I

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can't see what's going on.

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Wonderful

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councilor Saab.

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Thank you only just recently this

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past month and a half, you know, nearly

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2 months, we've celebrated a whole range

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of different types of events from

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Luna New Year to the Easter to Ramadan

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and whole manner of other religious and

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cultural celebrations. and it

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certainly felt like there was a cause to

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come together and celebrate and enjoy

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each other's companies for everyone.

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 at many of these events that our

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community invites me to join them,

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they also invite me to share a few words

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and reflections. and lately I found

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myself sharing similar story of

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representation and support at each of

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the places that I go and visit. I

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thought given this evening  there is

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an item on the agenda about supporting

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our diverse community  and I'm

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obviously unable to speak to this motion

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 and given there are other few similar

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items I thought I would share some of

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those reflections the type of City

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we are in Kingston is not by accident.

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The fact we are a City rich in

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multicultural and interfaith diversity

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that understands and respects the

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cultures and ethnic communities that

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live, work, learn, and play here is not

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something that just happens. It is

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planned for, cared for, and nurtured. It

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is something that must be protected and

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strengthened.

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In a world where division can sometimes

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be loud, our commitment to respect, to

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inclusion and harmony must be louder, we

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must continue to create spaces where

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culture is celebrated, not sidelined,

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where difference is embraced, not

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feared, and where every community feels

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a sense of belonging. When we invest in

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multiculturalism, we invest in unity, in

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resilience, and in a shared future built

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on mutual respect. In that spirit, I

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also wanted to share to personally

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condemn the egregious display at

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memorial services across the country,

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but in particular the one that occurred

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at the shrine of remembrance., and

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for a second in time during an address

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made by Uncle Mark Brown from the Bunurong

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country, someone who all councils around

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the table I know are very familiar with,

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someone of great integrity.

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It is hard to paint in words how much

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someone must love their country that

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they would sign up to military service,

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ship out, put their life on the line to

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defend their their country.

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All while knowing that when they come

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back home, they wouldn't be given the

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same treatment as the people they fought

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beside. That they wouldn't be given the

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same block of lands or courtesy that a

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white veteran was given because of the

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color of their still of their skin. But

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they would still go anyway. That is in

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effect what people booed. That is in

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effect why the work that council does on

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reconciliation on multiculturalism and

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on interfaith is so important. Um as

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veterans saw it their duty to serve. I I

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feel and I believe our councils around

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the table also believe this. It is our

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duty to build a City that is tolerant

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and respectful. So I wanted to say thank

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you to Uncle Mark Brown and from me

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personally and I'm sure the council

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shares the view. We are sorry for the

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treatment that you and the indigenous

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community continues to be subject to,

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but this only strengthens our resolve

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and proves that there is still much work

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to do. Thank you.

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Thank you, Council Saab. Are there any

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other councelor statements this evening?

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There being none, can we have a motion

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to receive those council statements?

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Thank you, council and seconded

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councelor Athanasopoulos.

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Just that says council statements not

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delegates reports.

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Thank you. All those in favor

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that is carried unanimously. Thank you.

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We'll now move to item 6.1 which is the

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arbiter's determination in the matter of

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councelor Jane Agirtan and councelor

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Hadi Saab.

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Item 6.1 involves the tableabling of the

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independent arbittor's determination and

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statement of reasons as published in the

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agenda which is a requirement of section

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1474 of the local government act 2020.

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As this item is not for council

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consideration and has been tabled only

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for recording in the minutes. We will

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now move on to public question time.

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Thank you Mayor Oxley and thank you to

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those who submitted questions this

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evening. Please note the governance

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rules have been applied to all

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questions. The process to submit

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questions to a council meeting is via an

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online question form available on

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council's website or placing a paper

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question form in the question box near

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our Chelenham customer service counter

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by 3 p.m. on the day of the council

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meeting. There are a total of 45

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questions submitted for tonight's

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ordinary council meeting. Five questions

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have been disallowed in accordance with

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the governance rules on the grounds that

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one submitter did not include their full

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name. the other submitters exceeded

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their question number limit for this

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meeting. Please note that any preamble

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submitted with questions will not be

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read out. First question is from Tessos.

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Given that the council has leased part

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of Keley Park reserved to Optus

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Telecommunications and the council has

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some revenue from this venue, when is

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the council going to start the works for

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lighting up of the south shared path in

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this path? I'll ask general manager

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infrastructure and open space Samantha

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Krull to respond.

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Thank you. you and through you may the

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funding provision has been made in the

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draft 202627 capital works budget to

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install lighting along the southern

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shared user path.

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Next question is from Peter. Why was

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there no representative from Kingston at

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the Cheltenham Moorabbin RSL afternoon service?

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I'll ask council's general manager

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customer and corporate support Mr. Dan

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Hogan to respond

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through the chair. Thank you for your

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question Peter. There were a number of

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Anzac Day commemorations and ceremonies

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throughout the municipality for which

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counselors were invited and able to

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attend. Unfortunately, they can't be at

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the mall. Councelor Agirtan attended the

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Cheltenham Moorabbin RSL service at dawn.

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Next question is from Gavin. In

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council's Kingston survey about

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potential Australia Day activities, how

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do council officers justify the

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suggestion of a first nations morning

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ceremony at a cost of $55,000?

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I'll ask general manager community

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strengthening Miss Kate Waters to

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respond.

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Thank you and through you mayor. The

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estimated cost of a morning ceremony or

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a dawn ceremony is based on the cost of

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similar ceremonies held in other

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municipalities. These types of events

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invite the community to reflect,

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respect, and celebrate together with

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costs including marketing, performers,

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consultation with traditional owners,

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setup and equipment. Noting these events

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are typically held outside. The cost

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estimate is based on a thousand

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attendees.

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The next question is from Ian and this

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is a follow-up on two previous requests

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regarding the intersection of the

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junction of Evan Street, Laburnam Avenue

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and Main Street, Parkdale. Could council

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please inform me if these surveys have

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currently been performed and if not when

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is it planned to perform them and also

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what conditions would be needed to be

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occurring to require road safety

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modifications as he has previously

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requested. General Manager

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Infrastructure and Open Space Samantha

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? to respond.

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Thank you. and through you may the

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traffic speed and volume survey will be

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scheduled for next week as the school

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holidays are only concluded last week

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and traffic conditions have not yet

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returned to normal.

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The next two authors I'll consolidate as

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they relate to the one matter. First one

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is from Rose. Why was a council officer

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unable to confirm with VCAT the precise

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state council first engaged legal advice

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as contained in the officer's affidavit

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submitted to VCAT relating to Kingswood

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redevelopment VCAT practice day hearings

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held in December 2025 and two questions

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from Lynn. Please advise does Kingston

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Council have any powers to oppose the

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granting of a planning permit for

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Kingswood and if so what would the

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opposition take the form of including

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which specific issues? I'll ask

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council's general manager planning and

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place Mr. to Jonathan Goodman to

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respond.

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Thank you. And through you, Madame

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Mayor. In response to the question from

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Rose, council officers will review the

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affidavit material and then contact Rose

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to clarify and provide a response to her

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question. In response to the question

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from Lynn, the report provided under

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item 8.2 2 outlines that pursuant to

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clause 7201 of the Kingston planning

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scheme, the Minister for Planning is the

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responsible authority for the issue of

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of permits at the subject site.

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As such, at this time, council does not

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have any official status in the issue of

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planning permits at the subject site,

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nor is council an official referral

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authority.

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The report prepared under this item does

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however recommend it is council's view

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that the application in its current form

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should not be supported.

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Officers understand that the assessment

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undertaken

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by the department and of transport and

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planning will however form part of its

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considerations of this matter.

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The next two questions of the next

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two authors I'll consolidate the answers

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as well. First one is from Donna. Is it

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true that Kingston Council sought

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community feedback to councelor Hatti

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Sab's motion about racism and refugee

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migration amongst other things mentioned

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tonight in agenda item 13.1 by targeting

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51 leader members of the community

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groups directly. And from these only

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nine responded and of these only four

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specifically supported or commented on

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multicultural and refugee initiatives

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and refugee welcome zones page 395 in

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the agenda tonight. Two questions from

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Steven. How can council frame this low

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number of feedback responses nine out of

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51 from the leadership of Kingston

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community groups to the Hadis motion

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being discussed tonight 13.1 as being a

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strong support for the statements made

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within the motion even noting even

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noting that these responses only four

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particularly represented a strong

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support for recognizing migrant and

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refugee contributions and migrant

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welcome zones within Kingston page 395

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agenda. Second question is this hadis

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subm motion at 13.1 trying to justify

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and lay the groundwork for Kingston

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Council to become an immigration refugee

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welcome zone council. I'll ask council's

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general manager committee strengthening

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Kate Waters to respond.

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Thank you. And through you, mayor. At

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the council meeting in October 2025,

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council resolved to defer the notice of

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motion 412025

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supporting our diverse community and

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sought communication and consultation

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with our multicultural community around

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the matters contained within this notice

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of motion. The updated guidance notes on

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page 394 of the agenda outline the

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community consultation methodology and

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findings. The consultation was targeted

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and as outlined in the question, 51

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community leaders were invited to

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provide feedback and nine responses were

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received. Some responses were

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comprehensive while others were brief.

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As outlined in the guidance notes, there

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were four comments that specifically

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related to the theme support for

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multicultural and refugee initiatives.

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Of the community leaders that did

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respond, they all supported the matters

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contained within the notice of motion.

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The reference to strong support is in

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reference to the responses received.

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Councilors have been provided with the

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full consultation findings. In response

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to the third question, notice of motions

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are submitted by councilors, not council

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officers, and as such I cannot comment

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on councelor sub's intention in relation

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to refugee welcome zones, but I refer

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you to the rationale on page 391 and 392

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of the agenda.

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The next two authors are consolidated as

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well. The first one is Deborah. In the

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council letter dates 16 January 2026

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addressed to the department of planning

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and transport DTP. Why is council silent

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on the topic of hydrarology with regard

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to Kingswood? And the second author

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Graeme, why has Kingston Council not

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previously hired its own external

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hydrarology experts with relation to

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Kingswood? And going forward, please

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advise, will Kingston Council hire its

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own hydrarology experts? I'll ask

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council's general manager planning a

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place Jonathan Goodman to respond.

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Thank you and through you madame mayor.

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In response to the question from Deborah

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the council letter dated 16th of January

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2026 to the department of transport and

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planning raised issues associated with

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the retarding basins proposed and bulk

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earthworks on the site both of which are

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directly relevant to hydraological

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considerations.

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It's also clear that Melbourne Water had

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stipulated a range of detailed matters

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relating to hydrarology in its letter to

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DTP dated 21st October 2025

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that were also relevant to these

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considerations.

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In response to questions from Graeme,

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the council is considering item 8.2 on

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tonight's agenda, which is a response to

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the application for planning permit

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related to the former Kingswood Golf

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Course site. The report makes clear

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under section 3.3 matters which remain

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outstanding for council in relation to

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hydrarology and then reinforces the

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significant number of conditions

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recommended by council officers on the

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basis of permit were to be granted

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relating to this issue. In the

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recommended conditions drafted in

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tonight's report, reference throughout

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the conditions relating to drainage

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refers to plans being to the

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satisfaction of Kingston City Council.

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Recommended condition 29 reads, "All

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drainage work and documentation to be

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peer reviewed by an external independent

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suitably qualified hydraologist and

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engineers to the satisfaction of

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Kingston City Council."

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Next question is from Dakota. Can

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council please give us to Kingston

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public the date of the Malleuca

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bi-election bored on by the resignation

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of councelor Teslaw. I ask council's

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general manager customer corporate

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support Dan Hogan to respond.

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Thank you for the question and through

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the chair. The electoral commissioner

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has advised that in accordance with

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section 260

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-4-B of the local government act 2020

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August the 1st of 2026 has been fixed as

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the election date for the bi-election of

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Meluca.

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The next question is from Robert at the

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meeting held on 23 April 2025 involving

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the then local government minister Mr.

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Nick Stacos, Kingston Mayor Oxley and

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Kingston CEO Mr. Peter Bean, was the

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topic of the council's grant program

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and/or any specific past, present, or

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intended grants discussed in any way? I

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will choose to answer this question. At

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that meeting, a great number of matters

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were discussed. Council's grant program

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was one of them. Thank you.

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Next question is from Avette. Is it true

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that some developers of land in Kingston

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have had to pay thousands of dollars in

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some sort of payments to Aboriginal

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entities to attain attain council

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permission just to move forward with

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their development plans on their own

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land? And secondly, what is this payment

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called? I was council's general manager

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planning a place Mr. Jonathan Goodman to

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respond.

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Thank you. In response to the question

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AC in in response to this question

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across the state of Victoria, cultural

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heritage management plans are required

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when high impact activities planned in

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areas of cultural heritage sensitivity

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as defined by the Aboriginal heritage

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regulations 2018. In certain instances,

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exemptions are established for certain

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types of use and development.

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Areas of cultural heritage sensitivity

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include registered cultural heritage

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places and the mapping of these

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locations across the state of Victoria

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can be found on the Vic plan website.

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Costs associated with cultural heritage

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assessment processes when required will

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likely involve the assistance from a

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cultural heritage consultant and input

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is also likely to be sought from the

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registered Aboriginal party. Thank you.

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The next question is from Elena. The

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treaty appendix in tonight's agenda

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talks of the ability of local councils

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being able to support treaty even though

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they may not be invited to participate.

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However, what if a council point blank

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refuses to support treaty negotiations

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and subsequent land and water grabs by

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Aboriginal groups? Two, will Kingston

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will our Kingston councils have an

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opportunity to vote yay or nay as to

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whether Kingston recognizes any demands

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or entitlements whatsoever put forward

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by these new Trenty negotiators over

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whatever lands and waters they may lay

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claim to in Kingston. I'll ask council's

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general manager committee strengthening

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Kate Waters to respond.

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Thank you and through you mayor. I

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assume the question is referring to item

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9.5 reconciliation strategy 2026 to

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2030. The reconciliation strategy is

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separate from the Victorian treaty

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process and does not commit council to

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enter to entering into local treaty

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processes. The primary negotiating

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parties for treaties are either the

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state or the first people's assembly for

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a statewide treaty or the state and a

00:28:56.080 --> 00:28:57.976
traditional owner delegation for

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traditional owner treaties. Local

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governments may be invited to

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participate as an additional negotiating

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party. If council is invited to

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participate, it would be a decision for

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council to resolve on. Thank you.

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The next two questions are from Gil.

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Will our democratically elected Kingston

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councils be updated in a timely manner

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and indeed have a final say on matter

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over negotiations with any registered

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traditional Aboriginal owner groups

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about any coming treaty claims these

00:29:27.919 --> 00:29:29.976
groups will make to entitlement over any

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of our Kingston lands and waterways? And

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two, can democratically elected Kingston

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councilors be updated in a timely manner

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and indeed have a final say on matter

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over negotiations with any registered

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traditional Aboriginal owner groups over

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lands and waterways in Kingston. I ask

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council's general manager planning a

00:29:45.919 --> 00:29:48.919
place Jonathan Gutman to respond.

00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.720
Um item 9.5 reconciliation strategy 2026

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2030 that is being considered tonight

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includes an action to provide updates on

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treaty developments to council and the

00:30:04.399 --> 00:30:06.936
community with any decisions requiring

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separate reports to council. The primary

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negotiating parties for treaties are

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either one the state and the assembly

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for a statewide treaty or two the state

00:30:17.360 --> 00:30:19.816
and a traditional owner delegation for

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traditional owner treaties. Local

00:30:22.159 --> 00:30:23.655
governments may be invited to

00:30:23.679 --> 00:30:26.296
participate as additional negotiating

00:30:26.320 --> 00:30:29.096
parties. If council is invited to

00:30:29.120 --> 00:30:31.576
participate, it would be a decision for

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the council to resolve on.

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Next question is from Dominique. Is

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council aware the community groups have

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been trying desperately for a long time

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to stop the tower being built on the

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adjacent station site at 79 Balcon Road

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Menone and have been rallying the

00:30:47.360 --> 00:30:49.176
community of Manton asking for this to

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become a gateway mental

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manager planning a place Jonathan

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Goodman to respond.

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Thank you. And through you, Madame

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Mayor. The CEO is reading the questions

00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:21.336
in unusual order tonight, which is

00:31:21.360 --> 00:31:24.360
certainly keeping us on our toes. Um, in

00:31:25.120 --> 00:31:27.895
response to the question from Dominique,

00:31:27.919 --> 00:31:30.056
council considered a report as part of

00:31:30.080 --> 00:31:32.856
item 7.5. of its ordinary council

00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.880
meeting on the 23rd of March 2026

00:31:35.919 --> 00:31:37.736
whereby a submission was made to the

00:31:37.760 --> 00:31:39.416
state department of transport and

00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.816
planning on the men activity center

00:31:41.840 --> 00:31:44.375
program. The report and accompanying

00:31:44.399 --> 00:31:47.399
submission highlight this matter and

00:31:47.840 --> 00:31:49.895
reinforce the concerns raised by the

00:31:49.919 --> 00:31:52.135
community in relation to the prospective

00:31:52.159 --> 00:31:55.159
development of 79 Balcomm road men.

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With respect to a response from the

00:31:59.120 --> 00:32:02.120
question from Jeff, council disposes of

00:32:02.320 --> 00:32:04.616
land in line with the approved property

00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:06.375
strategy and subject to public

00:32:06.399 --> 00:32:09.096
consultation. At this stage, there is no

00:32:09.120 --> 00:32:11.336
identified parcel to swap for this

00:32:11.360 --> 00:32:13.255
purpose and council has not been

00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:14.775
formally approached by the state

00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:17.799
government to purchase this land.

00:32:18.399 --> 00:32:20.775
Thank you, Mr. Putman. Next question is

00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.015
from Roslin. Given more than 500

00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:24.616
Kingston residents have signed a

00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:26.296
petition to oppose the Drews Community

00:32:26.320 --> 00:32:28.296
Grant, what action will Kingston Council

00:32:28.320 --> 00:32:30.056
take to ensure future money is not paid

00:32:30.080 --> 00:32:32.056
to this entity which resides in the City

00:32:32.080 --> 00:32:34.135
of Dandino? I'll ask general manager

00:32:34.159 --> 00:32:35.736
community strengthening Kate Waters to

00:32:35.760 --> 00:32:37.015
respond.

00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.015
Thank you. And through you may council

00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:40.616
resolves the funding outcomes for

00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:42.375
community bannual grants, operational

00:32:42.399 --> 00:32:44.056
and partnership grants and community

00:32:44.080 --> 00:32:46.535
festivals, events and creative activity

00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.015
grants. All grant recipients must comply

00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.015
with the Kingston grants program policy

00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.336
guidelines and funding agreements and as

00:32:53.360 --> 00:32:54.696
long as they do the grant funding

00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.576
continues as per the grant time frame. I

00:32:57.600 --> 00:32:59.255
don't believe the petition referred to

00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.015
in the question has been presented to

00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:03.655
council.

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The next two authors James and Anna

00:33:05.919 --> 00:33:07.576
will read the questions together.

00:33:07.600 --> 00:33:09.096
Question from James. Is it true that

00:33:09.120 --> 00:33:11.495
Kingston has a database of 55 so-called

00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.816
black businesses which you mentioned in

00:33:13.840 --> 00:33:15.416
tonight's agenda that get preferential

00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:16.696
treatment and consideration for

00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.696
contracts support procurement and

00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:20.135
services above other businesses in

00:33:20.159 --> 00:33:21.895
Kingston as stated in your

00:33:21.919 --> 00:33:24.919
reconciliation strategy 2026 page 23

00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.375
appendix reconciliation strategy 2026

00:33:28.399 --> 00:33:30.856
two questions from Anna why does council

00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:32.936
think it quite okay to use the word

00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.576
black spelled without a C to describe

00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:37.336
Aboriginal enterprises like black

00:33:37.360 --> 00:33:39.895
markets black businesses as on page 23

00:33:39.919 --> 00:33:42.135
of appendix 1 in the reconciliation

00:33:42.159 --> 00:33:44.456
strategy in tonight's agenda. Is it not

00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.216
true that the use of the word black by

00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:48.616
council like this is obviously racist?

00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:49.976
I'll ask council's general manager

00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:51.655
committee strengthening Kate Waters to

00:33:51.679 --> 00:33:53.655
respond.

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Thank you and through you mayor.

00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:57.416
Kingston maintains a database of all

00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.655
suppliers of which some identify as

00:33:59.679 --> 00:34:01.976
first nations businesses. Council does

00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:03.816
not operate a preferential procurement

00:34:03.840 --> 00:34:06.135
system and no business is automatically

00:34:06.159 --> 00:34:08.375
given priority, advantage or guaranteed

00:34:08.399 --> 00:34:10.936
access to contracts or services. All

00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:12.696
council procurement and contracting

00:34:12.720 --> 00:34:14.615
follows property value for money and

00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.016
legal requirements. Aboriginal owned

00:34:17.040 --> 00:34:19.256
businesses must meet the same criteria

00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.736
as all other businesses. No contracts,

00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.055
funding, or services are awarded outside

00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:25.496
council's established procurement

00:34:25.520 --> 00:34:28.456
policies. The term black spelt without

00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.256
the C is a self-determined term used by

00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:33.016
Aboriginal and toouristrate islander

00:34:33.040 --> 00:34:35.095
peoples particularly in contemporary

00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:38.119
cultural artistic and business context.

00:34:38.240 --> 00:34:40.776
Is not a derogatory term nor is it a

00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.655
council created language. Today black B

00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.536
L A is commonly and deliberately used by

00:34:46.560 --> 00:34:49.335
Aboriginalled organizations, artists,

00:34:49.359 --> 00:34:52.055
businesses and markets across Australia

00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.536
to describe their own work. Council's

00:34:54.560 --> 00:34:56.375
use of the term in the reconciliation

00:34:56.399 --> 00:34:58.216
strategy reflects respect for

00:34:58.240 --> 00:34:59.575
contemporary Aboriginal

00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.055
self-identification and language and

00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:03.976
aligns with how these enterprises

00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.216
describe themselves. Council does not

00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:08.136
use the term to label people nor to

00:35:08.160 --> 00:35:10.456
impose language is only used in

00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:12.536
reference to Aboriginalled enterprises

00:35:12.560 --> 00:35:14.456
and initiatives that them that they

00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.776
themselves use this terminology. For

00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:18.616
these reasons, council does not consider

00:35:18.640 --> 00:35:21.575
the use of the term black BLK in this

00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.416
context to be racist. Rather, it

00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:25.176
reflects respectful, informed, and

00:35:25.200 --> 00:35:26.936
contemporary practice guided by

00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:28.696
Aboriginal voices and cultural

00:35:28.720 --> 00:35:31.720
authority. Thank you.

00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:33.896
Next two questions are from Kate. Aren't

00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.055
proposals to create a kindergarten cury

00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:37.815
kinder seemingly specifically only for

00:35:37.839 --> 00:35:39.815
Aboriginal children completely contrary

00:35:39.839 --> 00:35:42.216
to the idea of promoting inclusivity and

00:35:42.240 --> 00:35:44.456
social cohesion in our society? As

00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.696
mentioned in agenda tonight on page 23

00:35:46.720 --> 00:35:48.536
of appendix 1, strategy for

00:35:48.560 --> 00:35:51.496
reconciliation 2026. and two, aren't we

00:35:51.520 --> 00:35:53.095
supposed to be stronger together and not

00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:55.176
separated out according to our race and

00:35:55.200 --> 00:35:56.936
skin color? Again, I'll ask general

00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:58.296
manager committee strengthening Kate

00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.095
Waters to respond. Thank you and through

00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.976
you, mayor. The reconciliation strategy

00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:06.616
does not include a proposal for a quory

00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:08.856
kinder. However, the idea of a quory

00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:10.536
kinder was one of many suggestions

00:36:10.560 --> 00:36:11.896
received during the community

00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.616
consultation processes. The consultation

00:36:14.640 --> 00:36:17.640
findings are on page 22 and 2023 of the

00:36:17.680 --> 00:36:19.575
strategy under the what we heard

00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:21.496
section. Importantly, community

00:36:21.520 --> 00:36:23.656
consultation is only one input used to

00:36:23.680 --> 00:36:26.680
develop the strategy.

00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:28.616
Next question is from Vera. Two

00:36:28.640 --> 00:36:30.616
questions. They are reconciliation

00:36:30.640 --> 00:36:32.296
action strategy meetings held in person

00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.296
at Kingston somewhere and if so where

00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:36.055
are they held and how and where is the

00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:37.896
public informed about the time and

00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.256
whereabouts of these meetings so that

00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:41.256
the public can join in to this and

00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.335
support? And the second question or is

00:36:43.359 --> 00:36:45.176
the wider public not invited? Again,

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I'll ask Miss Waters to respond.

00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.696
Thank you. And through you, Mayor.

00:36:50.720 --> 00:36:52.696
Information on the reconciliation action

00:36:52.720 --> 00:36:54.856
plan advisory group um which will be

00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:56.776
renamed to the reconciliation strategy

00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.776
reference group is available online via

00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:00.696
the communities and networks page of the

00:37:00.720 --> 00:37:02.696
council meetings. Meetings are held in

00:37:02.720 --> 00:37:04.616
Kingston, often at this building, Dermit

00:37:04.640 --> 00:37:06.456
will wheel and gathering place with an

00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:08.936
option to join online. You do need to be

00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:11.416
a member to participate with details on

00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:14.055
the website including an EOI process.

00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:15.736
Thank you.

00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:18.536
Next question is from Una. How many

00:37:18.560 --> 00:37:20.376
actual Aboriginal people are involved in

00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.136
the reconciliation strategy reference

00:37:22.160 --> 00:37:24.136
group at Kingston Council, not counting

00:37:24.160 --> 00:37:25.815
the involvement of the 60 Kingston

00:37:25.839 --> 00:37:27.815
Council staff, the executive leadership

00:37:27.839 --> 00:37:29.736
group and the council based access and

00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.055
equity committee people. Again, I ask

00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:34.376
Miss Waters to respond to that question.

00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:35.976
Thank you. and through you may the

00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.055
reconciliation strategy reference group

00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:40.296
currently comprises four members three

00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:41.736
of whom are first nations

00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:43.815
representatives at the time of community

00:37:43.839 --> 00:37:46.055
consultation on the reconciliation

00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:47.896
strategy the group had eight members

00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:49.496
five of whom were first nations

00:37:49.520 --> 00:37:51.656
representatives

00:37:51.680 --> 00:37:54.616
next question is from Arena is it not

00:37:54.640 --> 00:37:55.976
true that this Kingston Council

00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.000
Aboriginal strategy plan 2026 to 2030

00:37:59.040 --> 00:38:00.536
within the agenda tonight will mean

00:38:00.560 --> 00:38:02.456
actioning a policy to change the name of

00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:05.256
places streets parks waterways and other

00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:06.776
things and places in Kingston because

00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.256
this renaming forms part of the policy

00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:11.256
in this plan. Once again, I will ask

00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:13.815
Miss Waters to respond.

00:38:13.839 --> 00:38:15.736
Thank you and through you, Mayor. I

00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:17.575
assume is referring to the

00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.536
reconciliation strategy 2026 to 30,

00:38:20.560 --> 00:38:23.560
which is item 9.5 tonight. Um the simple

00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.896
answer is no. The reconciliation does

00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:28.296
not introduce a new naming policy and it

00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.536
does not require or mandate the renaming

00:38:30.560 --> 00:38:33.176
of existing streets, parks, waterways or

00:38:33.200 --> 00:38:35.575
places in Kingston. It references

00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:37.656
implementing council's existing naming

00:38:37.680 --> 00:38:39.815
of places policy which was adopted by

00:38:39.839 --> 00:38:42.839
this council in October 2025.

00:38:43.839 --> 00:38:46.696
Next question is from Gavin. Why did

00:38:46.720 --> 00:38:48.296
council and the council monitors

00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:49.736
effectively allow the creation of a

00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:51.656
precedent by permitting council sad to

00:38:51.680 --> 00:38:52.936
become involved in the last council

00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.335
meeting online for only a few minutes?

00:38:55.359 --> 00:38:56.936
Last council's general manager customer

00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:58.616
corporate support, Mr. Dan Hogan to

00:38:58.640 --> 00:39:00.936
respond.

00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:02.376
Thank you, Mr. CEO, and through the

00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.296
chair. The rules governing council

00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:05.736
meetings are set out within council's

00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.656
governance rules meeting procedure in

00:39:07.680 --> 00:39:09.176
accordance with statutory obligations

00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:11.496
under the local government act of 2020.

00:39:11.520 --> 00:39:13.416
No precedent has been set per se as

00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.095
remote attendance via electronic means

00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:16.856
is expressly allowed under the act and

00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.536
counselor attendance at any point within

00:39:18.560 --> 00:39:19.976
a meeting is a matter for the councelor

00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.055
themselves except where extraordinary

00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:23.736
circumstances apply. Attendance of any

00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:26.760
type is typically from start to finish.

00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:29.256
Next two questions are from Stuart. Have

00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.176
any councilors submitted expenses that

00:39:31.200 --> 00:39:33.335
have later been rejected? If so, who

00:39:33.359 --> 00:39:35.256
what and when? I'll ask general manager

00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:36.696
corporate customer and corporate support

00:39:36.720 --> 00:39:39.656
Mr. Dan Hogan to respond.

00:39:39.680 --> 00:39:41.736
Thank you Mr. CEO and through the chair.

00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:43.176
Thank you for your question, Stuart. I

00:39:43.200 --> 00:39:44.616
will take this question on notice and

00:39:44.640 --> 00:39:46.055
provide a written response once we've

00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.079
been able to examine our records.

00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.055
Next question is from Rosemary West. Can

00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:53.976
council please give me an idea how many

00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.776
trees in Kingston have been or will be

00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:58.856
lost to the following build big build

00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.880
works. SRL rail stabling and maintenance

00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:04.456
facility. Clear felling of cloves

00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:06.536
reserve other level crossing removal

00:40:06.560 --> 00:40:09.016
works. So, Walter Fry Reserve in Hyatt,

00:40:09.040 --> 00:40:10.376
Kingswood form Golf Course

00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:12.936
redevelopment. The second question, how

00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:14.696
how many of these trees have been or

00:40:14.720 --> 00:40:17.720
will be replaced 3:1 or by other ratios

00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:20.376
and in other areas? I'll ask general

00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:21.815
manager infrastructure and open space

00:40:21.839 --> 00:40:24.696
Samantha Cruel to respond.

00:40:24.720 --> 00:40:26.536
Thank you and through the chair. Thank

00:40:26.560 --> 00:40:28.055
you, Rosemary. We will take both

00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:29.736
questions on notice and provide a

00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.216
written response.

00:40:32.240 --> 00:40:34.216
Next questions, two of them are from

00:40:34.240 --> 00:40:35.896
Brad. In relation to the Kingswood

00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:37.815
permit, can council confirm on the

00:40:37.839 --> 00:40:40.136
record one, what specific exemption, if

00:40:40.160 --> 00:40:41.736
any, has been relied upon to proceed

00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:43.656
without a building permit? And two, has

00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:45.176
a building permit been applied for,

00:40:45.200 --> 00:40:47.656
issued, or is one currently required for

00:40:47.680 --> 00:40:49.335
these works? I'll ask general manager

00:40:49.359 --> 00:40:51.496
planning in place, Mr. Jonathan Goodman

00:40:51.520 --> 00:40:54.216
to respond.

00:40:54.240 --> 00:40:56.295
Thank you. And through you, Madame May.

00:40:56.319 --> 00:40:58.055
In response to question one, council

00:40:58.079 --> 00:40:59.575
will make inquiries with the relevant

00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:01.656
land owner to understand what specific

00:41:01.680 --> 00:41:03.416
exemptions they sought from a private

00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:05.256
building surveyor to proceed without a

00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.815
building permit on the basis this was

00:41:07.839 --> 00:41:10.216
the case. Council will also confirm

00:41:10.240 --> 00:41:11.736
whether a building permit has been

00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.760
applied for and respond to Brad.

00:41:15.839 --> 00:41:17.256
Thank you. That concludes public

00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.136
questions for this evening. Mayor Oxley,

00:41:20.160 --> 00:41:21.896
thank you very much and thank you to all

00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:23.815
of our question submitters. As always,

00:41:23.839 --> 00:41:25.575
we value your questions each and every

00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:28.599
month. We'll now move to item 8.1, which

00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:30.136
is the town planning application

00:41:30.160 --> 00:41:33.160
decisions for March. Do I have a motion?

00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:35.656
Moved, council Agirtan and seconded,

00:41:35.680 --> 00:41:38.680
councelor Revanus. Thank you.

00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.896
Any discussion required?

00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:43.656
I will put that to the vote. All those

00:41:43.680 --> 00:41:46.136
in favor?

00:41:46.160 --> 00:41:48.616
That is carried unanimously.

00:41:48.640 --> 00:41:50.776
Move to item 8.2, 2, which is the

00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.800
planning permit at 179 to 217 Center

00:41:54.640 --> 00:41:56.136
Danny Nong Road, Dingley Village, which

00:41:56.160 --> 00:41:57.736
is the former Kingswood Golf Course

00:41:57.760 --> 00:41:59.575
site, and council's response to the

00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:02.295
Department of Transport and Planning.

00:42:02.319 --> 00:42:05.319
Do I have a motion, Council O'Donnell,

00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:07.656
and a seconder? Councelor How. Thank

00:42:07.680 --> 00:42:10.680
you, Council O'Donnell.

00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:16.920
, I'd just like to touch briefly on

00:42:17.520 --> 00:42:20.520
the response. um and thank officers for

00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.256
the work that they have done in

00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:24.776
leading up to this. The public may not

00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:27.800
see the work that has gone into the

00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.920
current report before us. Um and as a

00:42:32.560 --> 00:42:34.295
counselor, we don't always see that the

00:42:34.319 --> 00:42:36.136
amount of work that goes into it. But I

00:42:36.160 --> 00:42:38.616
can assure you the department have been

00:42:38.640 --> 00:42:40.295
the our department that have been

00:42:40.319 --> 00:42:43.176
handling this situation has worked

00:42:43.200 --> 00:42:46.055
extensively hard and for that I would

00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:48.295
like to thank Jonathan and his team for

00:42:48.319 --> 00:42:50.616
everything that's been achieved um to

00:42:50.640 --> 00:42:53.496
date. So thank you and

00:42:53.520 --> 00:42:55.256
I really really do appreciate and know

00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:56.536
that my fellow counselors that I've

00:42:56.560 --> 00:42:58.616
spoken to also appreciate the hard work

00:42:58.640 --> 00:43:00.055
that's gone into this. So thank you very

00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:01.176
much.

00:43:01.200 --> 00:43:02.696
Thank you councelor O'Donnell. Councelor

00:43:02.720 --> 00:43:05.496
How Reserve. Thank you. Are there any

00:43:05.520 --> 00:43:08.520
other councils on this matter?

00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:13.880
Councelor Hill.

00:43:16.560 --> 00:43:18.856
Thanks, Mayor Oxley. Um, just in line

00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:21.656
with Councelor O'Donnell's comments,

00:43:21.680 --> 00:43:24.616
I also wanted to thank our team. There's

00:43:24.640 --> 00:43:27.095
 been an extensive amount of work

00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:30.119
not only in this document and um the

00:43:30.160 --> 00:43:32.856
attached documents also um but really

00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:34.936
it's a culmination of over a decade of

00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:37.815
work. So um the team's put in an you

00:43:37.839 --> 00:43:40.839
know a mammoth amount of time um into

00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:42.616
supporting the community over all that

00:43:42.640 --> 00:43:44.776
time. Um there are some really good

00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.656
points within this report as well

00:43:47.680 --> 00:43:50.376
that really shows I think a close

00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:53.176
understanding of of our community and

00:43:53.200 --> 00:43:55.335
what our community are hoping to see

00:43:55.359 --> 00:43:57.896
from council. Um just pulling out one

00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.536
thing just the just the recommendations

00:44:00.560 --> 00:44:03.256
around the 5 m setbacks around the

00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:06.216
perimeter of the um of the golf course

00:44:06.240 --> 00:44:09.240
and trying to retain as much um

00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:13.000
canopy cover within those setbacks. I I

00:44:13.040 --> 00:44:16.040
think is really useful. Um it might not

00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.616
seem significant, but I know it will

00:44:18.640 --> 00:44:20.536
have a massive impact on anybody who's

00:44:20.560 --> 00:44:22.376
adjoining the golf course if that was to

00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:25.400
be followed. So again, I' I'd like to

00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:27.815
really thank the team for all their work

00:44:27.839 --> 00:44:29.736
and really happy to see this in front

00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.760
of council. So thank you.

00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:34.456
Thank you, Councelor Hill. Councelor

00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:37.095
Revanus.

00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.095
Thank you, Madame Mayor. just in line

00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:40.936
with everybody else thanking the

00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.095
officers for their works but also to

00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:45.736
Jacqueline Murdoch for her work as well.

00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:47.335
Thank you.

00:44:47.359 --> 00:44:49.016
Thank you councelor Evanasus. Are there

00:44:49.040 --> 00:44:52.040
any other counselors?

00:44:54.240 --> 00:44:56.136
Whilst I completely agree in thanking

00:44:56.160 --> 00:44:57.736
our officers, I also do want to thank

00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.295
the community for their ongoing

00:45:00.319 --> 00:45:01.656
support of council in working through

00:45:01.680 --> 00:45:04.616
what has been I know a very difficult

00:45:04.640 --> 00:45:07.176
time. Um, and I know there's been a lot

00:45:07.200 --> 00:45:09.496
of things going on. And I I hope that

00:45:09.520 --> 00:45:11.736
this represents the views of the

00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:14.216
community as much as we possibly can,

00:45:14.240 --> 00:45:16.696
not being the one responsible for the

00:45:16.720 --> 00:45:19.016
approval of of the development at this

00:45:19.040 --> 00:45:22.040
site. Um, I I certainly think that this

00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:24.776
report puts forward the views of the

00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.095
community to achieve the best possible

00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:28.856
outcome that can be there with an

00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:30.776
approval of a development. And whilst

00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.856
council was very vocal in supporting the

00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:34.856
community in trying to stop the

00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:36.616
development of this site, I think we're

00:45:36.640 --> 00:45:39.575
at a point where perhaps the inevitable

00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:41.896
is happening, but we are still trying

00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:43.496
our very best to put forward the views

00:45:43.520 --> 00:45:44.776
of the community to support the

00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:46.776
community in achieving the very best

00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:49.800
possible outcome that can be there. um

00:45:50.160 --> 00:45:51.416
particularly in some of the benefits

00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:52.776
that we're we're trying to get for the

00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:54.856
wider community on this site and and

00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:56.295
some of the issues I know that the

00:45:56.319 --> 00:45:57.656
community's raised with us that we are

00:45:57.680 --> 00:46:00.055
now putting forward in this submission.

00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:01.815
Um, I think this highlights to me though

00:46:01.839 --> 00:46:03.896
that the the changes that are being made

00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:05.976
from a planning perspective, from the

00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.000
state government are not supporting our

00:46:09.040 --> 00:46:11.496
local communities. And it's something

00:46:11.520 --> 00:46:13.736
that I I have been vocal about and will

00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.736
continue to be very vocal about of that

00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:17.736
local planning decisions should be made

00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.736
by your local council that is able to

00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:21.976
listen to and represent the views of the

00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.055
local community exactly as we have done

00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:26.776
in this report. But unfortunately, we

00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:28.216
aren't the decision maker in this

00:46:28.240 --> 00:46:30.216
scenario. And unfortunately, that seems

00:46:30.240 --> 00:46:31.976
to be happening more and more and will

00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:33.335
continue to probably happen more and

00:46:33.359 --> 00:46:35.416
more with the planning reform changes.

00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:36.936
And I just think that that is a real

00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:38.536
shame because the relationship that

00:46:38.560 --> 00:46:39.976
we've been able to develop with our

00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.696
community through this has been a a

00:46:42.720 --> 00:46:45.720
really good one. Um, and whilst it's not

00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:47.736
the outcome we would have liked to have

00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:50.536
seen at Kingswood, um, I certainly hope

00:46:50.560 --> 00:46:52.616
that the community are happy with the

00:46:52.640 --> 00:46:53.896
submission that we are putting forward

00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.055
and knowing that we will continue to try

00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:57.815
and get the best possible outcome in

00:46:57.839 --> 00:47:00.616
this site right until the very end. If

00:47:00.640 --> 00:47:02.616
there are no other counselors, council

00:47:02.640 --> 00:47:04.856
O'Donnell, do you wish to close?

00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:06.696
Reserve. Oh, you don't reserve. We just

00:47:06.720 --> 00:47:08.936
move to the vote. Thank you. I'll put

00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.960
that to the vote. All those in favor?

00:47:13.680 --> 00:47:16.680
That is carried unanimously.

00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.616
We'll move to item 9.1, the Kingston

00:47:20.640 --> 00:47:22.776
Grants Program Local Business Community

00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.256
Act category.

00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:27.256
Council O'Donnell,

00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.280
the amended motion.

00:47:30.319 --> 00:47:32.216
Thank you. A second for the amended

00:47:32.240 --> 00:47:35.176
motion. Councelor Reanus.

00:47:35.200 --> 00:47:38.200
Council O'Donnell.

00:47:38.640 --> 00:47:41.640
Reserve. reserve council revitus.

00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:43.976
Are there any other councilors on this

00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.000
motion?

00:47:48.240 --> 00:47:51.176
I suppose by way of explanation, um

00:47:51.200 --> 00:47:53.176
there was a motion that came to a

00:47:53.200 --> 00:47:55.575
previous council meeting where some

00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:56.856
work then needed to be done on

00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.880
establishing a a new category um for

00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.376
grants to support our local businesses.

00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:04.856
Um this is just establishing the

00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:06.616
eligibility criteria for that. there was

00:48:06.640 --> 00:48:07.736
a bit of discussion over what the

00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.736
eligibility criteria should have have

00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.136
been. Um and subsequently that went to

00:48:12.160 --> 00:48:13.976
our grants working group where the

00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:15.335
grants working group were able to

00:48:15.359 --> 00:48:18.055
discuss this matter and subsequently

00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:19.656
have sort of worked together to come up

00:48:19.680 --> 00:48:22.216
with um the eligibility criteria and

00:48:22.240 --> 00:48:24.456
amendment here that would support our

00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.856
small businesses um without needing to

00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.176
get into the conversation on how many

00:48:29.200 --> 00:48:31.016
employees or contractors or any of those

00:48:31.040 --> 00:48:33.095
types of things and just basing that on

00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:35.575
an annual turnover and having operated

00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.496
in the City of Kingston. So just by way

00:48:37.520 --> 00:48:39.896
of explanation,

00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:42.920
are there any other counselors?

00:48:43.040 --> 00:48:45.095
I will put that to the vote. All those

00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.815
in favor?

00:48:47.839 --> 00:48:50.839
That is carried unanimously.

00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.920
Item 9.2,

00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.256
the Kingston grants program at quiddles.

00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.280
Councelor sub.

00:49:00.720 --> 00:49:02.136
Thank you, mayor. I'd just like to

00:49:02.160 --> 00:49:04.136
declare at this point a general conflict

00:49:04.160 --> 00:49:05.896
of interest as I sit on one of the

00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.496
executives of a committee that is

00:49:07.520 --> 00:49:10.055
submitting or has submitted an acquitt

00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.136
um that's being considered this evening.

00:49:12.160 --> 00:49:15.160
Thank you. We will note that

00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:27.000
council O'Donnell

00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.696
I'd like to move

00:49:30.720 --> 00:49:32.616
but I'd like to move that we vote in

00:49:32.640 --> 00:49:33.736
parts please.

00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:35.416
So move the office of recommendation and

00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:36.936
a request that we vote in parts.

00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:37.815
Yes. Thank you.

00:49:37.839 --> 00:49:40.839
Thank you.

00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:43.896
So the officer recommendation moved to

00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.696
councelor O'Donnell and a second

00:49:46.720 --> 00:49:49.720
council Agirtan.

00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:03.896
Thank you. Councelor O'Donnell, do you

00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.920
wish to speak to a motion?

00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.760
No reserve. reserve. Council Agatam

00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:13.176
reserve. Are there any councils that

00:50:13.200 --> 00:50:16.200
wish to speak to this motion?

00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:21.656
I will just add as one of the members

00:50:21.680 --> 00:50:24.680
of the grants working group how

00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:27.176
fantastic that group has been um in

00:50:27.200 --> 00:50:29.896
working through changes and and things

00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:31.496
that could be done to improve the

00:50:31.520 --> 00:50:32.856
governance of our grants working group.

00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:33.896
And that's not to say that there was

00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:35.256
anything wrong necessarily to begin

00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.496
with, but just those that sort of

00:50:37.520 --> 00:50:39.016
striving for that continuous improvement

00:50:39.040 --> 00:50:41.736
in whatever we do. Um, and that's been a

00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:43.976
really fantastic group. So appreciate

00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:45.575
the members of that group, the officers

00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:47.016
of that group and the work that's been

00:50:47.040 --> 00:50:49.496
done there.

00:50:49.520 --> 00:50:52.520
If there are no other counselors,

00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:54.295
I will put that to the vote. We'll start

00:50:54.319 --> 00:50:57.319
with 0.1.

00:50:59.680 --> 00:51:02.136
All those in favor of 0.1 please raise

00:51:02.160 --> 00:51:03.976
your hand.

00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.776
That is councelor how councelor

00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.256
Athanasopoulos councelor Ashworth Glette

00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:12.280
councelor Hill.

00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:21.000
Thank you. All those against

00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:23.016
and abstaining

00:51:23.040 --> 00:51:24.696
that is councelor O'Donnell, council

00:51:24.720 --> 00:51:27.720
Agirtan, councelor Evanas and myself and

00:51:27.839 --> 00:51:29.575
that is lost on the casting vote of the

00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.599
chair.

00:51:34.640 --> 00:51:37.640
 and abstain may oxley

00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.000
And I will then put point

00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:00.535
two to the vote. Are you wanting two and

00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.216
three

00:52:02.240 --> 00:52:05.240
all separate?

00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.280
to point two to the vote.

00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.400
All those in favor

00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.480
that is carried unanimously

00:52:31.520 --> 00:52:34.520
and.3 to the vote.

00:52:50.720 --> 00:52:53.720
All those in favor

00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:56.920
that is carried unanimously.

00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:01.559
Thank you very much.

00:53:01.839 --> 00:53:03.656
And if someone could just make sure

00:53:03.680 --> 00:53:06.055
council s can reenter the meeting. Thank

00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:09.079
you. And we'll move to item 9.3

00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:11.416
individual development grants and

00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:14.440
community small grants quarterly report.

00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:19.400
Do I have a motion?

00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:21.976
Council Agirtan the officer

00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.000
recommendation. Thank you. A seconder.

00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:28.440
Councelor How?

00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.280
Council Agirtan reserve. Council H. Thank

00:53:38.720 --> 00:53:41.720
you. Any councils on this matter?

00:53:44.160 --> 00:53:45.575
There being none, I will put that to the

00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:48.599
vote. All those in favor

00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:51.976
is carried unanimously.

00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.456
Item 9.4, the Kingston grants program

00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:56.216
small and community bianual grants

00:53:56.240 --> 00:53:59.240
funding priority areas.

00:54:01.200 --> 00:54:03.976
Councelor O'Donnell

00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:07.000
as appears on the screen.

00:54:08.240 --> 00:54:10.136
A seconder.

00:54:10.160 --> 00:54:13.160
Council Agirtan.

00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:16.535
Council O'Donnell. Reserve. Council

00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:19.559
Agirtan. Any councilors on this matter?

00:54:23.200 --> 00:54:24.456
There being none, I will put that to the

00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.480
vote. All those in favor.

00:54:28.720 --> 00:54:31.016
That is carried unanimously.

00:54:31.040 --> 00:54:34.040
Item 9.5, the reconciliation strategy.

00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:37.079
Councelor O'Donnell.

00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:41.079
the amended motion.

00:54:41.839 --> 00:54:44.839
, is that as it appears?

00:54:46.160 --> 00:54:47.016
Yes, please.

00:54:47.040 --> 00:54:49.176
Thank you.

00:54:49.200 --> 00:54:51.256
A seconder,

00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:54.280
Council Agirtan. Thank you,

00:54:56.319 --> 00:54:59.176
Council O'Donnell.

00:54:59.200 --> 00:55:02.200
Thank you, Mayor Oxley. Um

00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:05.815
I have been quite open in regards to my

00:55:05.839 --> 00:55:07.335
concerns

00:55:07.359 --> 00:55:10.359
for the potential for cost shifting from

00:55:11.520 --> 00:55:14.520
state federal governments or treaty. Um

00:55:15.520 --> 00:55:18.216
I haven't got any proof in that

00:55:18.240 --> 00:55:20.616
happening and I was listening to the the

00:55:20.640 --> 00:55:22.696
questions asked by the community and I

00:55:22.720 --> 00:55:24.136
can understand the questions that were

00:55:24.160 --> 00:55:25.575
asked this evening and why you are

00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:28.599
concerned. Hence why I am moving this

00:55:28.640 --> 00:55:31.095
amendment to

00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:34.119
show that I understand the concerns come

00:55:34.240 --> 00:55:36.055
coming from the community. I also

00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:38.456
understand the concerns and what I have

00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:40.535
witnessed personally as the MAV

00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:43.496
delegate for the City of Kingston. Um,

00:55:43.520 --> 00:55:45.416
as I said, I haven't any proof, but

00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.440
discussions that have taken place, I

00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:51.335
would I feel much far more comfortable

00:55:51.359 --> 00:55:53.496
um having this come through to make sure

00:55:53.520 --> 00:55:56.136
that we protect the City of Kingston

00:55:56.160 --> 00:55:58.136
from any potential. Now, I don't know

00:55:58.160 --> 00:55:59.896
the numbers that come together for

00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:02.376
renaming a street, an oval, a park, a

00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:05.400
park bench, a road, a whatever else

00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:07.815
could happen, but I do understand that

00:56:07.839 --> 00:56:10.216
it is quite significant. Local

00:56:10.240 --> 00:56:11.736
government is not in a situation where

00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.760
it's able to sustain that level of cost

00:56:16.720 --> 00:56:18.376
shifting from local government or

00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:21.400
federal government or from treaty itself

00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:24.599
should there be a movement towards

00:56:25.359 --> 00:56:28.359
renaming council assets. And in saying

00:56:28.799 --> 00:56:31.176
that,

00:56:31.200 --> 00:56:34.200
it's very blurry in regards to

00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:38.856
Could we please make sure that the

00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:41.880
gallery remains quiet? Um, it's very

00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:45.095
blurry on what this is going to look

00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:48.119
like um, moving forward. So, whilst I'm

00:56:49.520 --> 00:56:51.256
supporting the reconciliation strategy

00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:53.256
moving forward, I do want to make sure

00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:54.696
that council is protected from the

00:56:54.720 --> 00:56:56.376
potential cost shifting that could take

00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:59.095
place. It is not said that it is going

00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:01.736
to take place. I said could take place

00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:03.416
and that is why I'm moving this

00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:05.736
amendment this evening. Also to

00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:08.535
recognize the feedback from the

00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:11.559
community in regards to supporters and

00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:13.095
those who have not been overly

00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:16.119
supportive but understand that the the

00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:19.400
feedback specifically often outlines the

00:57:20.799 --> 00:57:23.575
concern regarding the cost associated

00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:26.599
with it. Um so that is why I'm making

00:57:26.640 --> 00:57:28.456
the amend bring the amendment into

00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:31.256
chamber tonight is to make sure that

00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:34.055
whilst as I said I supportive of the

00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:35.896
reconciliation strategy but I just want

00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.656
to make sure that we're a listening to

00:57:37.680 --> 00:57:39.575
the community and their feedback and b

00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:41.815
making sure that the City of Kingston

00:57:41.839 --> 00:57:43.815
are protected from any potential cost

00:57:43.839 --> 00:57:45.976
shifting that we may see in the future.

00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.456
So thank you. Thank you, councelor

00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:51.016
O'Donnell. Councelor Agirtan

00:57:51.040 --> 00:57:54.040
reserve. Any other counselors? Councelor

00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:57.079
Athanasopoulos.

00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:00.760
Um, not to cover much more about the

00:58:01.520 --> 00:58:03.256
actual reconciliation action plan. I

00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.280
think it looks like it may

00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.376
potentially come back to the to another

00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:11.016
meeting., but I will speak to what we

00:58:11.040 --> 00:58:14.040
have before us. my discomfort

00:58:14.799 --> 00:58:17.496
around how this is written is um

00:58:17.520 --> 00:58:19.095
considering the consultation process

00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:21.416
that has taken place and the feedback

00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.136
that has been incorporated. I think a

00:58:24.160 --> 00:58:25.815
pure deferral would have been our best

00:58:25.839 --> 00:58:28.839
process going forward. Um and then for

00:58:29.359 --> 00:58:32.359
our counselors if you like um to put

00:58:34.160 --> 00:58:35.896
forward the changes that they think are

00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:37.496
in line with the feedback that we

00:58:37.520 --> 00:58:40.136
receive. Now that in saying that I think

00:58:40.160 --> 00:58:42.376
it would be fair to say and Ms. Waters

00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:43.976
please interrupt me if I'm incorrect in

00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:45.815
saying this but our officers have

00:58:45.839 --> 00:58:48.295
considered the information that our

00:58:48.319 --> 00:58:50.216
community has provided and on balance

00:58:50.240 --> 00:58:52.376
considering there are conflicting um

00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:55.400
views. they think that the

00:58:55.680 --> 00:58:57.176
reconciliation action plan has put

00:58:57.200 --> 00:58:58.696
before council is what they would

00:58:58.720 --> 00:59:01.256
recommend. So kind of in point A, I

00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.575
think um I don't know. I'm not confident

00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:06.456
that officers could respond in any

00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:09.480
meaningful way. Um and I feel maybe I'm

00:59:09.839 --> 00:59:11.736
not saying this is the intent or that it

00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:13.496
actually achieves this, but I don't want

00:59:13.520 --> 00:59:15.815
to be seen as um potentially directing

00:59:15.839 --> 00:59:18.839
officers. So um yeah, for me it would

00:59:19.200 --> 00:59:21.256
have been better that we defer. On point

00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.176
B though, I totally agree. I think that

00:59:23.200 --> 00:59:26.200
that um cost shifting exercise if

00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:28.376
something is endorsed by council that

00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:30.136
we'd support and go ahead with yeah I

00:59:30.160 --> 00:59:31.976
think we should pay for it. I think when

00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:34.696
something is put upon us and yeah we

00:59:34.720 --> 00:59:36.295
should have something in our papers that

00:59:36.319 --> 00:59:38.936
say it it remains our decision on how

00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:41.416
that's paid for and worked on. So I

00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:42.856
wouldn't have an issue with that. But

00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:44.055
yeah I think I find it a bit

00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:45.896
uncomfortable as it's presented to us

00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:47.575
tonight. It doesn't mean I'm not going

00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:50.376
to vote um I'm going to vote against it,

00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:52.216
but I would have much preferred that

00:59:52.240 --> 00:59:54.535
just an overall deferral which would

00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:55.656
would have achieved the same thing

00:59:55.680 --> 00:59:57.335
really and for it to come back to

00:59:57.359 --> 00:59:59.656
council.

00:59:59.680 --> 01:00:01.416
Thank you. Councelor Athanasopoulos, are there

01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.440
any other councilors?

01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.535
Council Ash Colette.

01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:10.055
Would we be able to vote for this in

01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:12.136
parts, please?

01:00:12.160 --> 01:00:14.136
 yes,

01:00:14.160 --> 01:00:17.160
I'm happy to do that.

01:00:18.319 --> 01:00:20.295
Are there any other counselors wanting

01:00:20.319 --> 01:00:23.319
to speak to the matter?

01:00:24.799 --> 01:00:27.799
A question.

01:00:27.839 --> 01:00:29.176
When we say in parts, are we going to

01:00:29.200 --> 01:00:30.856
just do one and two or we going to do

01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:32.936
one, 2 A, 2 B?

01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:35.960
One, 2 A, and 2 B.

01:00:36.160 --> 01:00:39.160
Yep. More votes the better.

01:00:40.160 --> 01:00:43.160
Any other councils on this matter?

01:00:45.200 --> 01:00:47.736
I will just say that um I'm happy to

01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:49.656
support this this evening. I think with

01:00:49.680 --> 01:00:51.496
the inclusion of potential changes in

01:00:51.520 --> 01:00:54.520
response to feedback um allows officers

01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.016
to provide options. They have obviously

01:00:57.040 --> 01:00:59.176
provided their officer recommendation.

01:00:59.200 --> 01:01:01.335
Um I perhaps have a different view that

01:01:01.359 --> 01:01:03.976
we haven't necessarily incorporated the

01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:06.055
feedback and and perhaps some of the

01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.856
responses that were given um could have

01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.815
been more inclusive of all of the

01:01:11.839 --> 01:01:13.416
submitters. And I think they've they've

01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:14.775
taken their time to provide that

01:01:14.799 --> 01:01:17.095
feedback whether we agreed with that

01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:19.656
feedback or not. Um I think we deserve

01:01:19.680 --> 01:01:21.815
to to take that on board whether we want

01:01:21.839 --> 01:01:23.896
to incorporate that. That's obviously a

01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:25.095
decision of council. I don't think it's

01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:26.535
directing officers. I think if that's a

01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:28.535
decision of council to ask them to go

01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:29.736
back and provide options for

01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:31.815
incorporating that feedback then that is

01:01:31.839 --> 01:01:33.815
a a perfectly reasonable decision for

01:01:33.839 --> 01:01:35.256
council to make. So we'll be supporting

01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:37.976
that this evening. Councelor Donald you

01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:41.000
wish to close?

01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:45.000
Yes. And am I

01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:46.535
press it again?

01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:49.416
Yeah.

01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:50.456
Yep. We're good.

01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:51.496
Yeah.

01:01:51.520 --> 01:01:54.520
Okay. It's playing games with me. Um,

01:01:54.720 --> 01:01:57.256
thank you, Mayor Oxley, for making that

01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:59.416
far more clear than than I obviously got

01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:02.440
to. Um I do want to point out as I said

01:02:02.640 --> 01:02:05.640
I am not not supporting the

01:02:06.799 --> 01:02:09.095
reconciliation

01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:12.055
um strategy that is before us that we

01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:13.976
have spent a lot of time going out to

01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:17.000
the community for their consultation.

01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:20.119
It is my position that I am elected to

01:02:20.720 --> 01:02:23.095
to make sure that I'm listening to

01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:25.496
everyone's feedback in regards to this.

01:02:25.520 --> 01:02:27.416
This is not my opportunity to have an

01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:29.416
opinion. That is not what this is. that

01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:31.016
is not what I will do as a counselor and

01:02:31.040 --> 01:02:33.335
what I'm elected to do. So, this is

01:02:33.359 --> 01:02:36.359
entirely making sure that our community

01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:39.480
are heard, listened to, and that that's

01:02:39.680 --> 01:02:41.736
received in the strategy that is put

01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:43.176
forward. So, that's where we're at

01:02:43.200 --> 01:02:46.200
tonight. As I said, um and reiterate my

01:02:46.240 --> 01:02:49.095
concerns to potential cost shifting. Um

01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:50.856
that's the reality. We deal with it on a

01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:53.335
number of faces throughout multiple

01:02:53.359 --> 01:02:55.496
areas of concern throughout local

01:02:55.520 --> 01:02:57.736
government. The cost shifting happens

01:02:57.760 --> 01:03:00.760
regularly and it is something that is a

01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:04.856
massive concern to to myself as a

01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:07.256
counselor and our ability to be able to

01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:09.496
wear those costs when they are placed

01:03:09.520 --> 01:03:12.520
upon us by governments of state and

01:03:13.200 --> 01:03:15.335
federal level. It can be incredibly

01:03:15.359 --> 01:03:17.335
damaging. That is what ends up having

01:03:17.359 --> 01:03:19.496
your rates increased. That is stuff that

01:03:19.520 --> 01:03:21.335
we that goes beyond our control when

01:03:21.359 --> 01:03:23.416
these costs are shift down to local

01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:25.416
government and our inability to be able

01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:27.496
to respond because there's nothing in

01:03:27.520 --> 01:03:29.976
place to protect us. That is entirely

01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:31.896
why I've moved this amendment this

01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:33.575
evening and that is exactly what I will

01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:35.736
stand by tonight. So, thank you.

01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:37.896
Thank you, Councelor O'Donnell. I'll now

01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:40.920
put 0.1 to the vote.

01:03:44.720 --> 01:03:47.720
All those in favor

01:03:50.640 --> 01:03:52.936
that is councelor how councelor

01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:54.696
O'Donnell councelor Athanasopoulos

01:03:54.720 --> 01:03:57.095
council Agirtan councelor Evanus

01:03:57.119 --> 01:03:58.456
councelor Ashworth call it councelor

01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:01.480
hill and myself all those against

01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:04.216
and abstaining

01:04:04.240 --> 01:04:07.240
councelor Sab

01:04:08.240 --> 01:04:11.240
that is carried we now put 2A

01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:15.559
to the vote

01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:20.599
All those in favor

01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:23.575
that is council how councelor O'Donnell

01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:25.656
councelor Agirtan councelor Revenitus and

01:04:25.680 --> 01:04:28.680
myself.

01:04:34.240 --> 01:04:37.240
All those against

01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:39.896
council Ashworth Colette

01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:42.136
and abstaining

01:04:42.160 --> 01:04:44.055
councelor Athanasopoulos councelor Hill

01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:46.616
and councelor sub

01:04:46.640 --> 01:04:49.640
that is carried

01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:54.280
and I'll put 2B to the vote.

01:05:20.720 --> 01:05:23.720
all those in favor

01:05:24.240 --> 01:05:26.696
that is councelor how councelor

01:05:26.720 --> 01:05:28.775
O'Donnell councelorosopouloolis council

01:05:28.799 --> 01:05:30.696
Agirtan councelor reanitus councelor

01:05:30.720 --> 01:05:32.616
Ashrath Colette councelor hill and

01:05:32.640 --> 01:05:35.640
myself all those against councelor s

01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:39.575
is Is that abstaining?

01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:41.416
It was an abstension. Apologies.

01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:44.295
Thank you, Council S. abstaining. And

01:05:44.319 --> 01:05:47.319
that is carried.

01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:57.496
Thank you. Just to those in our gallery,

01:05:57.520 --> 01:05:59.095
I have just been asked it. It is

01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:00.616
difficult if you guys are talking for us

01:06:00.640 --> 01:06:02.136
to be able to hear some things. So, if

01:06:02.160 --> 01:06:03.656
you just able to keep any noise to a

01:06:03.680 --> 01:06:04.696
minimum or if you do want to have

01:06:04.720 --> 01:06:06.616
conversations just to head out into the

01:06:06.640 --> 01:06:09.640
anti-chamber just out into the foyer,

01:06:10.720 --> 01:06:13.720
that's okay. Y

01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.976
Thank you. Did I call that last vote?

01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.856
Carried. Thank you.

01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:23.880
Item 10.1 is the response to resolution

01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:25.976
notice of motion Glen Street Reserve

01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:28.136
Pavilion. Councelor O'Donnell, the

01:06:28.160 --> 01:06:30.136
officer recommendation.

01:06:30.160 --> 01:06:32.696
Thank you. A second uper. Councelor

01:06:32.720 --> 01:06:35.416
Reanus.

01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:38.440
Councelor O'Donnell.

01:06:38.799 --> 01:06:41.496
Thank you, Mayor Oxley, and thank you to

01:06:41.520 --> 01:06:44.376
Sam Croll and her team for the report

01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:47.400
that you've put together. Um the

01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:50.760
response, sorry, to the resolution. Um

01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:54.760
the community of Aspenale, Edith Aspal

01:06:55.520 --> 01:06:57.496
Junior Football Club are very well aware

01:06:57.520 --> 01:07:00.520
of the concerns regarding the Glenn

01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:03.656
Street Pavilion. Um this is a step in

01:07:03.680 --> 01:07:06.680
the right direction. This is us making a

01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:09.896
commitment to moving forward on what we

01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:12.920
can do to make sure that we bring this

01:07:13.520 --> 01:07:15.176
pavilion up to scratch and up to

01:07:15.200 --> 01:07:17.815
standard. It gets the ball rolling.

01:07:17.839 --> 01:07:20.456
These things don't happen overnight. Um,

01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:22.376
we need to go through processes to to

01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:25.400
get us there and this is a fantastic

01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:28.920
reflection of that taking place and

01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:31.896
moving forward. Um, I really look

01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:33.976
forward to there's there's a small

01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:35.095
amount of works that are going to be

01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:37.896
taking place to bring the pavilion into

01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:40.696
a more accessible, more functional

01:07:40.720 --> 01:07:43.015
pavilion for the for the short term, but

01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:44.535
we're we're stepping in the right

01:07:44.559 --> 01:07:46.535
direction. and I'm really happy with the

01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:48.055
the team and everything that's been

01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:50.535
provided to date and looking forward

01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:52.376
to moving forward. So, thank you very

01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:53.256
much.

01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:54.295
Thank you, councelor O'Donnell.

01:07:54.319 --> 01:07:56.936
Councelor Evanas reserve. Any other

01:07:56.960 --> 01:07:59.960
counselors on this matter?

01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:02.696
There being none, I will put that to the

01:08:02.720 --> 01:08:05.720
vote. All those in favor?

01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:08.616
That is carried unanimously.

01:08:08.640 --> 01:08:10.856
Item 10.2, the response to resolution

01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:12.696
notice of motion playground upgrades.

01:08:12.720 --> 01:08:15.720
Councelor O'Donnell, an amended motion.

01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:20.135
Can you just double check that that is

01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:23.159
as it appears?

01:08:25.120 --> 01:08:27.096
So, it's moved council O'Donnell and

01:08:27.120 --> 01:08:29.335
seconded. Council Ashworth Colette.

01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:32.359
Thank you.

01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:37.335
Can we just remove Yeah, that part.

01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:40.359
Thank you, Council O'Donnell.

01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:42.856
Thank you, Mayor Oxley. And another

01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.880
thanks to Sam Carroll and her team. Um

01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:50.199
the the plans are looking fantastic. I

01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:52.856
really look forward to it moving forward

01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:55.735
and um what the the space is going to

01:08:55.759 --> 01:08:58.056
look like in the in the future. It's

01:08:58.080 --> 01:08:59.655
been in a bit of need of some love and

01:08:59.679 --> 01:09:02.679
some TLC. Um I do want to point out that

01:09:03.120 --> 01:09:05.496
in reflection to

01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:08.520
the two parks named at waterways. Um

01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:12.856
there is going to be

01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:15.255
more work done in the future um to what

01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:16.616
this looks like. But we also need to

01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:19.096
take into consideration the entire space

01:09:19.120 --> 01:09:21.976
and what what we can do and we can move

01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:24.536
forward together as is working together.

01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:25.735
And I love catching up with the

01:09:25.759 --> 01:09:27.416
residents association and the owners

01:09:27.440 --> 01:09:30.215
corporation in waterways. um you're a

01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:31.735
great bunch of people to work with. You

01:09:31.759 --> 01:09:34.759
make my life much easier and yeah,

01:09:35.440 --> 01:09:37.976
please know that that this is a a

01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:39.416
starting point and we're going to move

01:09:39.440 --> 01:09:41.815
forward and we're going to see some

01:09:41.839 --> 01:09:43.416
really cool things happen in the future.

01:09:43.440 --> 01:09:45.335
So, thank you very much.

01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:46.856
Thank you, Council O'Donnell. Council

01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:49.815
Ashworth, Colette.

01:09:49.839 --> 01:09:51.096
Yes. So, I'd like to start off by

01:09:51.120 --> 01:09:53.255
thanking councelor John for u allowing

01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:55.816
this amendment on number four just to

01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:58.840
extend um playground work that's beyond

01:09:59.040 --> 01:10:00.936
her wall. The plans for her wall look

01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:03.496
fantastic. Um

01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:05.736
it's really important in my mind that we

01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:08.760
have local and small local neighborhood

01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:10.456
playgrounds

01:10:10.480 --> 01:10:12.695
um revitalized or renewed. A lot of them

01:10:12.719 --> 01:10:15.175
are over 20 to 25 years old. And so

01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:17.655
that's what this point 4 is asking for

01:10:17.679 --> 01:10:19.736
is a briefing back to counselors and

01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:21.336
then when some more information comes

01:10:21.360 --> 01:10:24.360
together for a report as well and

01:10:25.120 --> 01:10:26.536
hopefully we might be able to implement

01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:29.336
putting in more playgrounds into the

01:10:29.360 --> 01:10:32.360
future. Um, these small and small local

01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:34.456
and local playgrounds are the type of

01:10:34.480 --> 01:10:36.456
ones that might just be on a single

01:10:36.480 --> 01:10:38.856
block of land. And they're the type of

01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:40.936
playgrounds that I think a lot of

01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:43.256
parents and caregivers know about is

01:10:43.280 --> 01:10:46.280
you've been inside all day. You might be

01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:48.376
living in high density. So, you have a

01:10:48.400 --> 01:10:50.776
small backyard and you go out for a bike

01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:52.376
ride, your kid goes out for a bike ride,

01:10:52.400 --> 01:10:54.616
a scooter or a walk and then they spend

01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:56.936
some time there. And I think in these

01:10:56.960 --> 01:10:58.616
small playgrounds, community comes

01:10:58.640 --> 01:10:59.816
together really well. you make

01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:01.976
friendships, you see the same kids and

01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:04.056
parents and families there. So, I think

01:11:04.080 --> 01:11:05.496
that the connections that happen in

01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:07.256
these playgrounds are really important

01:11:07.280 --> 01:11:09.256
compared to maybe some of our more

01:11:09.280 --> 01:11:11.256
amazing bigger playgrounds on the four

01:11:11.280 --> 01:11:12.536
shores and that sort of thing where

01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:14.215
they're more of a destination that

01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:16.616
people come to. So, I'm really looking

01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:18.536
forward to getting a report back on to

01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:21.560
these and I'm putting into action um

01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:23.336
some of the great work that was done

01:11:23.360 --> 01:11:25.655
through your playway strategy back in

01:11:25.679 --> 01:11:27.736
2023. Just wanted to thank councelor

01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:30.616
O'Donnell again.

01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:32.135
Thank you councelor Ashworth Colette.

01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:34.536
Are there any other counselors?

01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:37.560
Councelor Hill.

01:11:38.480 --> 01:11:40.215
Thanks Mayor Roxley. look I just

01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:43.239
wanted to quickly speak in support of

01:11:43.440 --> 01:11:46.440
point4. Also um in my ward the Patty

01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:49.336
Street Burke Street playground has just

01:11:49.360 --> 01:11:51.816
recently been renewed. Um, we've

01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:53.256
obviously just gone through school

01:11:53.280 --> 01:11:56.280
holidays and, anyone in the local

01:11:56.560 --> 01:11:58.776
area would have, seen if they drove

01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:01.416
past just how well utilized that new

01:12:01.440 --> 01:12:03.416
playground has been. And I think it's

01:12:03.440 --> 01:12:06.215
just a great example of how what in the

01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:08.536
grand scheme of things isn't, you know,

01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:11.175
an overly big investment for council

01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:12.616
relative to some of the other things

01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:15.016
that we need to spend money on. But when

01:12:15.040 --> 01:12:17.175
you see the massive amount of well the

01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:19.496
massive impact that it has on our

01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:22.520
community, um much of Kingston is very

01:12:23.440 --> 01:12:25.336
familyfriendly. Um these play

01:12:25.360 --> 01:12:27.336
playgrounds are super important. They go

01:12:27.360 --> 01:12:30.360
to um I guess the sense of place that

01:12:30.480 --> 01:12:32.776
people have about the areas that they

01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:35.655
live. the even these smaller playgrounds

01:12:35.679 --> 01:12:38.616
can be you know destinations in a sense

01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:40.215
that you know when you have guests over

01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:42.215
or something that you know the first

01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:45.016
destination will be the local playground

01:12:45.040 --> 01:12:46.936
um with with your friends kids and those

01:12:46.960 --> 01:12:49.256
sorts of things. So I I do think these

01:12:49.280 --> 01:12:51.096
are are great investments. I know it

01:12:51.120 --> 01:12:52.776
always has to be considered in the grand

01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:55.336
scheme of the overall budget um but I do

01:12:55.360 --> 01:12:56.776
think it does need um some

01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:58.776
consideration. So happy to support that.

01:12:58.800 --> 01:12:59.576
Thank you.

01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:00.936
Thank you councelor Hill. Are there any

01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:03.960
other counselors? Councelor Athanasopoulos.

01:13:07.360 --> 01:13:07.576
Oh,

01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:10.600
firstly firstly on that dot.4 should we

01:13:10.719 --> 01:13:11.736
highlight that?

01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:13.096
Doesn't really matter.

01:13:13.120 --> 01:13:13.816
It's not an amendment.

01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:15.496
Different to different to what's in the

01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:16.056
agenda.

01:13:16.080 --> 01:13:16.936
It's not an amendment.

01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:19.960
Okay. Um anyway, more importantly, the

01:13:20.480 --> 01:13:22.296
this is a great notice of motion. one

01:13:22.320 --> 01:13:24.376
for the area in question that we're

01:13:24.400 --> 01:13:25.816
actually going to take some action on,

01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:28.840
but two also because everyone in every

01:13:29.360 --> 01:13:31.655
um ward would would know of a local

01:13:31.679 --> 01:13:33.655
park. that's very important for

01:13:33.679 --> 01:13:35.336
people to get to. You don't want people

01:13:35.360 --> 01:13:37.096
jumping over major roads or especially

01:13:37.120 --> 01:13:38.856
kids having to jump over major roads and

01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:40.215
risk themselves. So having the

01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:41.655
infrastructure right there where they

01:13:41.679 --> 01:13:43.976
are so they can access it quite easily

01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:45.976
is very very important. And if you were

01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:47.896
to look like a waterway center, there is

01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:49.816
quite vast distances that you may have

01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:52.840
to cover if there's um those parks

01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:55.016
aren't up to scratch. So, and you know,

01:13:55.040 --> 01:13:57.336
if you look at my neck of the woods,

01:13:57.360 --> 01:13:59.096
it's different again where you're penned

01:13:59.120 --> 01:14:01.096
in by Center Road, Clayton Road, West

01:14:01.120 --> 01:14:03.496
Road potentially. And if those sort of

01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:05.016
facilities in and around that area,

01:14:05.040 --> 01:14:08.040
you're requesting people to um go into

01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:11.096
areas um with quite big barriers in the

01:14:11.120 --> 01:14:13.496
way. So I think it'll be interesting to

01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:15.016
see what comes back to us in December

01:14:15.040 --> 01:14:17.175
and I'm pretty confident that most

01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:18.776
councilors would want to see an

01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:21.336
expansion in this space. Thanks.

01:14:21.360 --> 01:14:22.856
Thank you councelor Athanasopoulos. Are

01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:25.880
there any other councilors?

01:14:26.400 --> 01:14:27.576
Councelor O'Donnell, do you wish to

01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:29.416
close?

01:14:29.440 --> 01:14:32.135
I just want to thank councelor Ashworth

01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:34.856
Colette for the the chats and

01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:37.880
discussions we've had in regards to this

01:14:38.080 --> 01:14:41.080
resolution and it's playgrounds. I mean

01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:44.296
really who doesn't love a playground?

01:14:44.320 --> 01:14:45.256
Thank you.

01:14:45.280 --> 01:14:46.776
Thank you. I will put that to the vote.

01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:49.496
All those in favor

01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:52.520
that is carried unanimously.

01:14:53.440 --> 01:14:55.816
Item 10.3, the response to resolution

01:14:55.840 --> 01:14:57.576
establishing a botanical garden in

01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:00.600
Kingston. Councilor O'Donnell.

01:15:02.480 --> 01:15:05.480
An amended motion.

01:15:05.679 --> 01:15:08.679
We're getting there.

01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:14.616
Y.

01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:15.816
Can you just double check that's

01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:18.840
correct?

01:15:23.360 --> 01:15:26.360
A second. Councelor H. Thank you,

01:15:27.360 --> 01:15:30.360
Council O'Donnell.

01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:36.520
Councelor How?

01:15:37.120 --> 01:15:38.776
Thank you, Mayor Oxley. this is a

01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:41.800
wonderful opportunity to um

01:15:44.080 --> 01:15:45.496
to go and look at what the site can

01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:48.056
really deliver

01:15:48.080 --> 01:15:51.080
but importantly to um

01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:54.616
not duplicate effort to look at the um

01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:56.776
the site for the sake of a botanical

01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:58.376
garden and then realize that may not be

01:15:58.400 --> 01:16:00.616
suited later on. one of the

01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:02.215
advantages of this site is that it

01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:05.175
actually has a um well it will shortly

01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:08.199
have a um a relocated indigenous

01:16:09.120 --> 01:16:11.256
nursery. So that creates a great

01:16:11.280 --> 01:16:13.736
opportunity to take this space and

01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:16.296
look at this as being either a botanical

01:16:16.320 --> 01:16:19.016
garden or a arboritum.

01:16:19.040 --> 01:16:22.040
We all know what that is. Thank you.

01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:24.776
Thank you councelor How. Are there any

01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:27.096
other counselors?

01:16:27.120 --> 01:16:29.576
Councelor sub

01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:31.896
just a question through you mayor to the

01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:34.920
um relevant manager. Um have we engaged

01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.960
in this process with um the Botanic

01:16:40.080 --> 01:16:41.736
Society of Australia like the Botanic

01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:43.336
Gardens Society of Australia or I think

01:16:43.360 --> 01:16:45.175
they called the Royal Botanic Society of

01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:48.199
Australia something along those lines.

01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:52.199
Miss Crawl,

01:16:52.719 --> 01:16:54.856
thank you through you may um I'm not

01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:57.880
sure whether we have um councelor SA if

01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:00.135
officers have not done so yet we

01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:01.976
definitely will as part of developing

01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:05.000
the future use of this site

01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:10.215
just

01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:13.096
thank you um that's okay so you might

01:17:13.120 --> 01:17:14.616
not have the answer now sorry miss crawl

01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:17.640
but just I guess another question then

01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:19.816
if it's not necessarily engaging with

01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:21.736
them. But have we done a feasibility to

01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:24.760
understand um like the necessity of

01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:28.056
having a botanic gardens in this area

01:17:28.080 --> 01:17:29.896
versus other parts of the City? Cuz

01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:32.616
generally botanic gardens are for a

01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:34.376
wider area, not necessarily just the

01:17:34.400 --> 01:17:37.016
City.

01:17:37.040 --> 01:17:40.040
Miss Crop,

01:17:41.280 --> 01:17:43.576
thank you through you, Mayor. Um the

01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:46.456
report does talk to the neighboring

01:17:46.480 --> 01:17:49.336
larger botanical gardens in our

01:17:49.360 --> 01:17:50.776
neighboring municipalities which are

01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:53.016
more destination type gardens. The

01:17:53.040 --> 01:17:55.175
report also touches on the existing

01:17:55.199 --> 01:17:57.896
small botanical garden we have in on

01:17:57.920 --> 01:17:59.976
Kingston Heath Reserve and also

01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:01.576
highlight in the report on the number of

01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:03.976
sites we've looked at around Kingston um

01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:06.135
as potential sites for development of a

01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:09.159
botanical garden in Kingston.

01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:13.159
Council

01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:15.736
sub.

01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:17.655
Thank you. I just comments if I can now.

01:18:17.679 --> 01:18:19.976
Thank you, Mayor. Um I'm I'm actually

01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:22.215
really supportive of of the idea of us

01:18:22.239 --> 01:18:24.135
exploring um the development of a

01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:25.976
botanic garden. I do also think I've had

01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:28.456
conversations with councelor How around

01:18:28.480 --> 01:18:31.480
Liam Reserve and um a while back um and

01:18:32.080 --> 01:18:34.695
I understand you know how the site is

01:18:34.719 --> 01:18:35.896
used and what the potential for that

01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:38.695
site could be. Um, I guess my my concern

01:18:38.719 --> 01:18:40.936
in this is just I guess I wasn't totally

01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:42.376
aware of what the budget implications

01:18:42.400 --> 01:18:43.816
for having a botanical gardens,

01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:45.016
especially something of the scale that

01:18:45.040 --> 01:18:47.096
they preserve is um and what that would

01:18:47.120 --> 01:18:48.695
mean for future considerations. The

01:18:48.719 --> 01:18:51.719
other concern I have generally is um

01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:54.776
whether or not a botanic garden by

01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:57.800
definition is needed in this part of um

01:18:58.719 --> 01:19:01.256
this the state. Um given there is a

01:19:01.280 --> 01:19:03.256
really significant one neighboring us

01:19:03.280 --> 01:19:05.416
near Casey and another one not too far

01:19:05.440 --> 01:19:08.440
off. in City of Port Phillip as

01:19:09.280 --> 01:19:11.896
well as then in the City of Melbourne

01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:14.920
and not from a not a long ways away. Um

01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:18.376
I guess so I just my hesitation is

01:19:18.400 --> 01:19:21.400
trying to better understand where those

01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:23.736
where this would fit amongst the other

01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:25.256
botanic gardens that exist throughout

01:19:25.280 --> 01:19:26.695
the state and and what kind of purpose

01:19:26.719 --> 01:19:27.896
that would then serve. I don't know if

01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:29.576
we've fully fleshed that out in this

01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:32.600
just yet. Um, for those reasons, I would

01:19:33.440 --> 01:19:35.655
likely abstain on this particular item,

01:19:35.679 --> 01:19:37.416
though generally I am supportive of the

01:19:37.440 --> 01:19:39.416
development of a botanic garden. I just

01:19:39.440 --> 01:19:41.496
I'd like to have some more detail around

01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:44.135
the questions and if the mover and the

01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.296
second would be amendable to it, it

01:19:46.320 --> 01:19:47.976
would I'd appreciate the opportunity to

01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.296
possibly defer so we could have some

01:19:50.320 --> 01:19:53.320
more of those discussions. Um, but

01:19:53.679 --> 01:19:55.416
conscience conscious that others may

01:19:55.440 --> 01:19:56.536
have already made their mind and I don't

01:19:56.560 --> 01:19:58.215
want to put them in that place. So if

01:19:58.239 --> 01:19:59.976
they aren't amendable to the idea of

01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:01.816
deferring I will have to abstain. Thank

01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:03.416
you.

01:20:03.440 --> 01:20:04.856
Thank you. Are there any other

01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:06.856
counselors?

01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:09.880
Councelor Reidas.

01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.296
Thank you ma madame mayor. I just wanted

01:20:12.320 --> 01:20:14.296
to make the comment um about the

01:20:14.320 --> 01:20:17.320
importance of botanical gardens and um

01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:20.936
even though there are other ones close

01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:23.960
by um with the rapid increase of high

01:20:24.320 --> 01:20:27.320
density living and um just to use as an

01:20:29.440 --> 01:20:32.440
example the the S William Fry Reserve um

01:20:33.679 --> 01:20:35.576
we're not sure how much land we're going

01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:37.496
to be given back by the state

01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:40.456
government. So, I think that it's really

01:20:40.480 --> 01:20:42.456
important to have as many botanical

01:20:42.480 --> 01:20:45.480
gardens as we we can. I support open

01:20:45.679 --> 01:20:48.679
spaces. So, I support this motion. Thank

01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:49.736
you.

01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:51.736
Thank you, councelor Revenus. Are there

01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:54.760
any other counselors?

01:20:57.280 --> 01:20:59.655
There being none, just a question

01:20:59.679 --> 01:21:01.816
through to the mover and seconder on

01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:03.896
whether or not you'd be amendable to

01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:06.296
putting a an additional point that an

01:21:06.320 --> 01:21:08.695
update report be provided by December of

01:21:08.719 --> 01:21:11.719
2026. Just so we have a time frame that

01:21:12.719 --> 01:21:15.719
we're getting an update on

01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:21.000
or an alternative time frame if there's

01:21:26.080 --> 01:21:29.080
Thank you.

01:21:32.320 --> 01:21:35.320
So just an additional six

01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:39.640
that an update report be provided.

01:22:23.360 --> 01:22:26.360
Thank you both to the mover and second.

01:22:28.400 --> 01:22:30.296
Councelor O'Donnell, you moved it,

01:22:30.320 --> 01:22:33.320
didn't you? Do you wish to close?

01:22:35.920 --> 01:22:38.920
Thank you.

01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:45.576
I'm just including 6 in the substantive.

01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:48.600
I'm just including 6 in the substantive.

01:23:00.320 --> 01:23:01.816
Thank you. So we'll put that to the

01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:04.376
vote. So that is all parts now including

01:23:04.400 --> 01:23:06.135
6.

01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:09.159
All those in favor

01:23:10.080 --> 01:23:11.496
that is councelor how councelor

01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:13.416
O'Donnell councelor Aanosopouloolis

01:23:13.440 --> 01:23:15.736
councelor Agirtan councelor Reanus

01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:18.760
councelor Hill and myself and abstaining

01:23:21.280 --> 01:23:24.280
councelor SA and Ashworth Colette

01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:28.376
that is carried

01:23:28.400 --> 01:23:30.615
we'll move to item 10.4 Four, which is

01:23:30.639 --> 01:23:33.096
glass recycling service. Councelor

01:23:33.120 --> 01:23:35.736
O'Donnell, the office of recommendation.

01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:38.760
A second. Council Agirtan.

01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:43.960
Councelor O'Donnell.

01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:47.416
Thank you, Mayor Oxley. Just got sure.

01:23:47.440 --> 01:23:50.440
Um, this has been quite the topic of

01:23:51.360 --> 01:23:53.655
conversation in around local governments

01:23:53.679 --> 01:23:55.976
over

01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:59.000
recent years. Um,

01:24:00.080 --> 01:24:01.496
I'm really really happy with the

01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:04.520
officer's report here and I think this

01:24:04.560 --> 01:24:07.496
is fantastic for our community with the

01:24:07.520 --> 01:24:09.096
number of councils that haven't

01:24:09.120 --> 01:24:12.120
supported the obligation to implement

01:24:12.639 --> 01:24:14.536
the glass recycling service as part of

01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:17.560
the state government's curbside reforms.

01:24:18.400 --> 01:24:19.896
It is not only going to come at an

01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:22.856
unbelievable cost with when you look at

01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:24.615
waste management as I have had the

01:24:24.639 --> 01:24:26.536
pleasure of getting to know a lot better

01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:29.560
since being elected to council. Um and

01:24:30.639 --> 01:24:33.016
now have a far deeper understanding to

01:24:33.040 --> 01:24:34.695
what goes into picking up your curbside

01:24:34.719 --> 01:24:36.215
bin.

01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:38.615
Adding another bin is not just for the

01:24:38.639 --> 01:24:40.376
homeowners to wheel out of their yard

01:24:40.400 --> 01:24:43.175
and onto the curb every week, fortnite,

01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:44.856
month, or whatever it's going to look

01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:47.416
like. It goes into the manufacturing and

01:24:47.440 --> 01:24:50.135
the purchasing of the bins, the trucks

01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:53.159
to actually execute the pickup. The list

01:24:53.360 --> 01:24:55.496
goes on and on and on. Not to mention

01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:57.576
the areas of curb sides throughout

01:24:57.600 --> 01:24:59.256
Kingston that you're going to be

01:24:59.280 --> 01:25:01.096
hardressed to find any curbside to put

01:25:01.120 --> 01:25:03.496
another bin on.

01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:06.376
the very low amount of glass that's

01:25:06.400 --> 01:25:08.776
present in the City of Kingston be

01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:10.936
through out using initiatives

01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:12.456
implemented

01:25:12.480 --> 01:25:14.695
um with the container deposit scheme

01:25:14.719 --> 01:25:16.536
which you know if you're anything like

01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:19.560
my husband he's got it all sorted and I

01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:21.416
reckon there's nearly one in every

01:25:21.440 --> 01:25:24.440
household that makes sure that the extra

01:25:24.480 --> 01:25:26.456
recyclable bottles are picked up and if

01:25:26.480 --> 01:25:28.135
not it's the kid going to look for some

01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:31.159
extra spare change to put in their

01:25:31.360 --> 01:25:33.736
skyrockets to be able to you

01:25:33.760 --> 01:25:35.896
head down the shops and buy I'd say a

01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:37.336
bag of mixed lollies, but I'm tipping

01:25:37.360 --> 01:25:39.976
their priced up high now these days. Um,

01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:43.000
we need to make sure that we stand up

01:25:43.280 --> 01:25:46.280
and protect the City of Kingston and

01:25:46.480 --> 01:25:47.976
stand by the other councils that are

01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:50.936
going to be standing with us to make

01:25:50.960 --> 01:25:53.960
sure that we can say no, we don't need

01:25:55.120 --> 01:25:58.120
this. the residents do not need any more

01:25:58.639 --> 01:26:01.416
bins put on their curb side because this

01:26:01.440 --> 01:26:03.816
doesn't bring any solutions. All it's

01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:05.655
going to do is cost us more money. So,

01:26:05.679 --> 01:26:07.576
thank you so much to the team that have

01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:09.175
put this report together. Thank you so

01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:11.175
much for the conversations that are

01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:14.199
happening with other councils and it's

01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:15.816
so cool when you start to see us all

01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:18.840
working together because you know what,

01:26:19.040 --> 01:26:22.040
more mouths and talking make a stronger

01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:25.096
voice to be able to be heard. So, um,

01:26:25.120 --> 01:26:26.856
thank you so much to Sam and her team

01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:29.736
and I really look forward to

01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:31.976
watching how we can get a better outcome

01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:33.736
from this. Thank you.

01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:35.175
Thank you, councelor O'Donnell, Council

01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:38.199
Agit.

01:26:39.120 --> 01:26:41.416
Thank you, Madame Mayor., thank you

01:26:41.440 --> 01:26:43.576
officers for putting together a

01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:46.296
comprehensive report reflecting what we

01:26:46.320 --> 01:26:48.296
hear in our communities every day. Our

01:26:48.320 --> 01:26:50.376
residents want to be able to recycle

01:26:50.400 --> 01:26:53.016
their wine and spirit bottles. they do

01:26:53.040 --> 01:26:56.040
not want to um incur additional cost in

01:26:58.320 --> 01:27:01.320
maintaining the fourth bin or the

01:27:02.159 --> 01:27:05.159
fifth bin for some households. Um so

01:27:05.280 --> 01:27:08.280
fully support um

01:27:08.480 --> 01:27:11.256
advocacy efforts to expand the um

01:27:11.280 --> 01:27:13.416
container recycling programs to include

01:27:13.440 --> 01:27:16.440
said items and um perhaps save our

01:27:17.679 --> 01:27:20.679
planet one one bottle at a time and

01:27:21.120 --> 01:27:23.655
um to ensure that City of Kingston rate

01:27:23.679 --> 01:27:25.896
payers and residents are not incurring

01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:28.056
any further costs that they didn't ask

01:27:28.080 --> 01:27:30.856
to incur. That is all. Thank you.

01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:32.376
Thank you councelor Agirtan. Any other

01:27:32.400 --> 01:27:34.776
counselors? Council

01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:37.800
Thenopoulos.

01:27:37.840 --> 01:27:39.576
Yeah, I'll concur with all the

01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:41.175
comments being made so far. I think that

01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:43.655
goes without saying. one thing that

01:27:43.679 --> 01:27:46.679
we do know is separation does help to

01:27:47.360 --> 01:27:49.896
repurpose as much waste as possible. So

01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:52.920
the intent behind separation is great.

01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:56.199
The logistics though have not been

01:27:57.199 --> 01:28:00.199
you know executed well in my view.

01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:03.239
um other options which have been

01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:05.976
presented in in this report, but you

01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:07.816
don't even have to just go into our

01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:09.336
report. You can look at examples all

01:28:09.360 --> 01:28:11.336
over the world where there are other

01:28:11.360 --> 01:28:13.416
ways of actually achieving the outcome

01:28:13.440 --> 01:28:14.856
that the government would like to

01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:16.135
achieve. And it's great that we've got

01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:18.536
other like-minded municipalities who

01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:21.175
probably will have even more ideas on

01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:24.056
how we can solve the issue of

01:28:24.080 --> 01:28:27.080
contaminated or mix u mingled um

01:28:27.679 --> 01:28:29.496
recycled bins and so on and so forth.

01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:32.520
So, um I fully support what's put before

01:28:33.040 --> 01:28:36.040
council and I think that um if we were

01:28:36.080 --> 01:28:37.576
together

01:28:37.600 --> 01:28:39.175
 with the other councils and hopefully

01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:40.856
together with people within

01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:42.856
government or people running in this

01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:44.695
upcoming election come up with some

01:28:44.719 --> 01:28:47.175
ideas that might actually improve the

01:28:47.199 --> 01:28:50.199
outcome of achieve a day. Thanks.

01:28:50.480 --> 01:28:52.296
Thank you, Councelor Athanasopoulos. Councelor

01:28:52.320 --> 01:28:55.320
Hill.

01:28:55.679 --> 01:28:57.896
Yeah, thanks Mayor Oxley. And look, I

01:28:57.920 --> 01:28:59.655
think it's just important to note that

01:28:59.679 --> 01:29:02.679
the um the legislation

01:29:03.360 --> 01:29:06.360
 regarding or that relates to the

01:29:06.400 --> 01:29:08.056
purple bin dates all the way back to

01:29:08.080 --> 01:29:11.080
2021. Um we've obviously subsequently

01:29:11.280 --> 01:29:14.280
had the um the container deposit

01:29:14.320 --> 01:29:16.776
scheme come on and that's been a huge

01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:19.800
success. So,, I think there was

01:29:20.080 --> 01:29:21.896
perhaps and and to councelor

01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:24.215
Athenosopouloolis's point, um, going

01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:26.135
back to 2021,

01:29:26.159 --> 01:29:29.016
um, there was a lot of contamination,

01:29:29.040 --> 01:29:31.736
, within our yellow bin from from

01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:34.760
broken glass and shards of glass,,

01:29:35.040 --> 01:29:37.336
rendering the contents of your yellow

01:29:37.360 --> 01:29:40.360
bin often, um, useless and and having to

01:29:41.040 --> 01:29:44.040
be put into landfill ultimately. But

01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:46.695
now, you know, getting down to the point

01:29:46.719 --> 01:29:48.615
where, you know, the the numbers in

01:29:48.639 --> 01:29:50.135
these in this report are really

01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:52.215
compelling. When you look at, you know,

01:29:52.239 --> 01:29:54.056
on average, our households only now

01:29:54.080 --> 01:29:55.576
producing somewhere in the region of

01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:58.600
3.25 kilos of glass rubbish a month. You

01:30:00.400 --> 01:30:02.215
know, it's it's really not very

01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:03.816
significant at all. And that's, you

01:30:03.840 --> 01:30:06.840
know, without furthering the CDS to

01:30:07.040 --> 01:30:09.016
potentially include um other bottles

01:30:09.040 --> 01:30:12.040
like wine bottles and spirit bottles. Um

01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:15.239
I I think there's you know you know more

01:30:15.440 --> 01:30:17.336
questions too when you when you talk

01:30:17.360 --> 01:30:20.360
about you know 65,000 bers costing

01:30:20.480 --> 01:30:23.480
costing in excess of 3.6 million um and

01:30:24.159 --> 01:30:26.856
that additional cost to residents as

01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:29.016
well for very little gain. Um we've got

01:30:29.040 --> 01:30:32.040
the I guess the understanding now

01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:35.496
that where the purple bin has been

01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:37.336
implemented there's very low pickup

01:30:37.360 --> 01:30:40.360
rates um by the trucks just because

01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:42.135
you know most houses aren't actually

01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:45.159
rolling out their purple bins. So I

01:30:45.679 --> 01:30:48.536
think it's it really brings into

01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:51.560
question the merits of the purple bin um

01:30:51.760 --> 01:30:54.296
at this current day. And I think

01:30:54.320 --> 01:30:56.615
there's there's you know very strong

01:30:56.639 --> 01:30:59.639
arguments for us to um you know come

01:31:00.400 --> 01:31:02.376
together with other councils and and

01:31:02.400 --> 01:31:05.016
look at other solutions that ultimately

01:31:05.040 --> 01:31:06.615
will most likely actually be more

01:31:06.639 --> 01:31:08.776
environmentally friendly than the

01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:10.856
introduction of a glass bin. So happy to

01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:12.376
support this. Thank you.

01:31:12.400 --> 01:31:13.896
Thank you councelor Hill. Any other

01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:16.920
counselors?

01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:20.199
Council Donald to close

01:31:21.040 --> 01:31:23.175
just briefly and thank you councelor

01:31:23.199 --> 01:31:24.776
Hill for pointing out those costs

01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:26.856
associated with rolling out the purple

01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:28.615
bins and that's just the bins on their

01:31:28.639 --> 01:31:31.639
own. Um I've heard some very creative

01:31:31.679 --> 01:31:33.655
stories of those in municipalities that

01:31:33.679 --> 01:31:36.376
currently do have their purple bins and

01:31:36.400 --> 01:31:38.456
they are being used for nearly

01:31:38.480 --> 01:31:41.175
everything else but putting out on the

01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:43.496
curb side once a month to pick up their

01:31:43.520 --> 01:31:45.496
bins. I have heard of one story where

01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:48.520
it's actually used to take the glass and

01:31:49.040 --> 01:31:52.040
the cans to the deposit collection

01:31:52.880 --> 01:31:55.175
space. So, yes, the bin's getting used,

01:31:55.199 --> 01:31:57.655
but not entirely what it's intended for

01:31:57.679 --> 01:31:59.336
and certainly doesn't have to come at a

01:31:59.360 --> 01:32:01.496
cost to rate payers of millions of

01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:03.976
dollars. So, thank you again everyone.

01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:05.336
Really great words from my fellow

01:32:05.360 --> 01:32:07.576
counselors. I respect everything that's

01:32:07.600 --> 01:32:09.976
said this evening and I will be

01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:11.655
supporting this recommendation from

01:32:11.679 --> 01:32:13.016
officers. Thank you.

01:32:13.040 --> 01:32:14.296
Thank you. I'll put that to the vote.

01:32:14.320 --> 01:32:17.096
All those in favor?

01:32:17.120 --> 01:32:19.256
That's carried unanimously.

01:32:19.280 --> 01:32:21.576
Item 11.1, the advocacy quarterly

01:32:21.600 --> 01:32:24.600
report, December 25 to March 26.

01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:29.159
A motion.

01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:32.840
Moved. Council Agirtan and seconded.

01:32:33.440 --> 01:32:36.440
Councelor O'Donnell.

01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:39.496
Council Agirtan reserve. Council

01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:42.296
O'Donnell reserve. Any counselors on

01:32:42.320 --> 01:32:45.320
this matter?

01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:46.856
There being none, I will put that to the

01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:49.880
vote. All those in favor

01:32:50.320 --> 01:32:53.320
carried unanimously.

01:32:54.480 --> 01:32:57.016
Item 11.2, report on activities from the

01:32:57.040 --> 01:33:00.040
audit and risk committee. A motion.

01:33:00.400 --> 01:33:01.655
Council Agirtan the officer

01:33:01.679 --> 01:33:03.416
recommendation. Council Reinitus. A

01:33:03.440 --> 01:33:06.440
seconder. Thank you.

01:33:07.040 --> 01:33:08.456
Do you wish to speak to the matter?

01:33:08.480 --> 01:33:11.256
Councelor Reanus reserve. Any other

01:33:11.280 --> 01:33:14.280
counselors?

01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:16.376
There being none, I'll put that to the

01:33:16.400 --> 01:33:19.400
vote. All those in favor?

01:33:20.239 --> 01:33:23.096
That's carried unanimously.

01:33:23.120 --> 01:33:26.056
Item 11.3, the draft counselor leave

01:33:26.080 --> 01:33:29.080
policy. Councelor Sab, the officer

01:33:29.120 --> 01:33:32.120
recommendation. A seconder.

01:33:33.280 --> 01:33:35.336
Councelor Hill.

01:33:35.360 --> 01:33:36.936
Council SA.

01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:39.960
I'll reserve. Thank you. Council Hill.

01:33:44.800 --> 01:33:47.655
Yeah, thanks Madame Mayor. Um, look, the

01:33:47.679 --> 01:33:50.296
the policy just fills a gap by creating

01:33:50.320 --> 01:33:52.456
a clear local framework for how

01:33:52.480 --> 01:33:55.256
counselors request and communicate

01:33:55.280 --> 01:33:58.280
communicate leave,, ensuring everyone

01:33:58.800 --> 01:34:00.936
follows the same steps,, which which

01:34:00.960 --> 01:34:03.816
only seems right. um standardizes

01:34:03.840 --> 01:34:05.576
everything from simple meeting apologies

01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:08.135
to long-term absences, ensuring

01:34:08.159 --> 01:34:10.536
counselors remain accountable um to the

01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:12.536
community even when they're away. And

01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:14.695
finally, the the policy balances

01:34:14.719 --> 01:34:17.655
health and safety needs with transparent

01:34:17.679 --> 01:34:19.256
 governance expected of public

01:34:19.280 --> 01:34:20.936
officials. So, it's all pretty

01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:22.376
straightforward. I'm happy to support.

01:34:22.400 --> 01:34:23.336
Thank you.

01:34:23.360 --> 01:34:26.360
Thank you. Any other counselors?

01:34:28.400 --> 01:34:29.816
There being none, I will put that to the

01:34:29.840 --> 01:34:32.695
vote. All those in favor?

01:34:32.719 --> 01:34:35.096
That is carried unanimously.

01:34:35.120 --> 01:34:37.736
Item 11.4, the draft council of social

01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:40.760
media policy. Councelor O'Donnell,

01:34:41.120 --> 01:34:42.936
like to move that we defer.

01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:45.096
Defer this matter to the May

01:34:45.120 --> 01:34:46.135
to. Thank you.

01:34:46.159 --> 01:34:49.159
Thank you. A seconder. Councelor Evanas.

01:34:51.280 --> 01:34:54.280
Do you wish to speak to the deferral?

01:34:55.600 --> 01:34:58.600
Reserve. Councelor of reserve. Any other

01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:01.880
councils on the deferral?

01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:04.776
There being none, I will put the

01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:07.800
deferral to the vote. All those in favor

01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:12.135
that is councelor How, Councelor

01:35:12.159 --> 01:35:14.215
O'Donnell, councelor Athanasopoulos,

01:35:14.239 --> 01:35:16.296
councelor Agirtan, councelor Evanas,

01:35:16.320 --> 01:35:18.056
councelor Ashworth, Colette, councelor

01:35:18.080 --> 01:35:21.080
Hill, and myself. All those against

01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:24.840
councelor Sar and that is carried.

01:35:26.960 --> 01:35:29.416
We'll move to item 11.5, the revised

01:35:29.440 --> 01:35:31.016
council nomination in a state and

01:35:31.040 --> 01:35:33.896
federal election policy. Do I have a

01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:36.920
motion?

01:35:40.239 --> 01:35:42.536
Council Agirtan. Thank you. The office of

01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:45.560
recommendation. A seconder.

01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:48.456
Council of Athanasopoulos. Thank you.

01:35:48.480 --> 01:35:49.736
Council Agirtan, do you wish to speak to

01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:52.296
the motion? No. Reserve. Council of

01:35:52.320 --> 01:35:55.320
Athanasopoulos.

01:35:56.480 --> 01:35:59.480
 just to summize, I I think it's

01:35:59.679 --> 01:36:01.416
important to note that I think it's

01:36:01.440 --> 01:36:02.456
pretty obvious for those that are

01:36:02.480 --> 01:36:03.976
keeping tabs. There's an election coming

01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:07.000
up later on this year. Um and there are

01:36:07.440 --> 01:36:10.440
elections that constantly occur. it's

01:36:10.960 --> 01:36:13.175
important that we we understand what

01:36:13.199 --> 01:36:15.816
what would govern us as councilors if

01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:18.056
we were to take those steps to want to

01:36:18.080 --> 01:36:19.976
nominate or be part of it. It does get a

01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:22.135
little bit tricky. Um, and depending on

01:36:22.159 --> 01:36:23.896
the comfort of the individual, they'll

01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:26.135
take an action that they they deem

01:36:26.159 --> 01:36:29.016
worthy or correct for them to to make

01:36:29.040 --> 01:36:32.040
sure that they take some time off. Um,

01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:35.096
however, this states out what's expected

01:36:35.120 --> 01:36:37.096
when it comes to the City of

01:36:37.120 --> 01:36:39.976
Kingston. Um, so it's really there for

01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:42.776
everyone to read. It's not overly um

01:36:42.800 --> 01:36:44.856
complicated. makes it very very clear

01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:47.016
what's expected and the timelines of

01:36:47.040 --> 01:36:49.976
when people would need to to take

01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:51.816
either leave and all those sorts of

01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:53.496
things. So I commend it and put it

01:36:53.520 --> 01:36:55.416
through the council group.

01:36:55.440 --> 01:36:57.016
Thank you councelor Athanasopoulos. Are

01:36:57.040 --> 01:37:00.040
there any other councils on this matter?

01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:03.880
Just briefly um I don't want this to

01:37:04.080 --> 01:37:07.080
deter any councilors from future

01:37:07.280 --> 01:37:10.280
ambitions or feel the need to run in any

01:37:11.040 --> 01:37:13.576
state or federal election. um should

01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:16.135
they feel that that's where they wish to

01:37:16.159 --> 01:37:18.536
go. So,

01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:21.256
it's a policy at a at a Kingston based

01:37:21.280 --> 01:37:23.336
level. There are

01:37:23.360 --> 01:37:24.536
things in place with the local

01:37:24.560 --> 01:37:26.695
government act um that we have to

01:37:26.719 --> 01:37:29.016
respect, but I don't want any other

01:37:29.040 --> 01:37:30.776
counselor to feel that they don't have

01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:32.536
the opportunity to run in a state and

01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:34.856
federal election should that be where

01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:36.615
they choose to go.

01:37:36.639 --> 01:37:39.175
Thank you, Councelor O'Donnell. If

01:37:39.199 --> 01:37:41.976
there's no other counselors,

01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:43.576
I will put that to the vote. All those

01:37:43.600 --> 01:37:45.576
in favor,

01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:47.496
that is councelor How, Councelor

01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:49.655
O'Donnell, councelor Athanasopoulos,

01:37:49.679 --> 01:37:51.576
councelor Agirtan, councelor Ashworth,

01:37:51.600 --> 01:37:53.736
Colette, councelor Hill, councelor Sab,

01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:56.760
and myself. All those against and

01:37:56.880 --> 01:37:59.736
abstaining, councelor Revanus and that

01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:01.816
is carried.

01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:04.376
We'll move to item 11.6, the governance

01:38:04.400 --> 01:38:07.400
and compliance report. Council O'Donnell

01:38:07.760 --> 01:38:10.056
an amended motion

01:38:10.080 --> 01:38:13.080
please.

01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:18.520
So that is a deferral of two. So the

01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:20.776
rest as it appears.

01:38:20.800 --> 01:38:21.256
Yes.

01:38:21.280 --> 01:38:24.280
And then defer 2 to the June

01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:15.256
Do I have a seconder?

01:39:15.280 --> 01:39:18.280
Council Agirtan. Thank you.

01:39:18.960 --> 01:39:20.776
Council O'Donnell.

01:39:20.800 --> 01:39:22.936
Just

01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:25.960
not just quickly. Um

01:39:27.199 --> 01:39:29.496
the reason for the deferral on point two

01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:32.520
is we are yet to vote for the budget

01:39:32.800 --> 01:39:35.175
until

01:39:35.199 --> 01:39:38.135
um next month if I'm correct. So hence

01:39:38.159 --> 01:39:41.159
why the deferral because let's make sure

01:39:41.280 --> 01:39:44.280
we have a budget first before we vote on

01:39:44.480 --> 01:39:47.480
something. Thank you.

01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:51.000
Thank you. Council Agirtan

01:39:51.760 --> 01:39:54.760
reserve um governance can

01:40:01.280 --> 01:40:04.280
I think security's addressing

01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:48.695
um governance, just in relation to point

01:40:48.719 --> 01:40:51.719
2, is it is it okay to just have defer

01:40:52.320 --> 01:40:53.976
point 2 until the June council meeting

01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:55.736
and not refer to the actual motion in

01:40:55.760 --> 01:40:57.896
the

01:40:57.920 --> 01:40:59.496
just so it doesn't get confused with it

01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:02.520
actually being in the motion? Is that

01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:04.376
okay? Or you'd prefer to have it in the

01:41:04.400 --> 01:41:07.336
actual

01:41:07.360 --> 01:41:10.360
Okay. Okay, that's fine.

01:41:11.679 --> 01:41:14.215
That's fine., council Agirtan, you

01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:17.095
reserved. Thank you. Are there any other

01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:18.376
counselors wishing to speak to this

01:41:18.400 --> 01:41:21.400
motion?

01:41:24.320 --> 01:41:27.320
There being none, I will put this matter

01:41:27.440 --> 01:41:30.440
to the vote. All those in favor?

01:41:34.480 --> 01:41:37.480
That is carried unanimously. Thank you.

01:41:38.480 --> 01:41:40.936
Item 12.1, the contaminated land

01:41:40.960 --> 01:41:43.576
framework.

01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:46.600
A motion. Councilors. Council Agirtan. A

01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:51.000
seconder. Councelor Reanitus. Thank you.

01:41:52.480 --> 01:41:53.816
Council Agirtan. Do you wish to speak to

01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:56.215
the motion? Reserve. Reserve. Thank you.

01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:58.056
Councelor Reanitus.

01:41:58.080 --> 01:42:01.080
Any other counselors on this motion?

01:42:04.320 --> 01:42:06.056
There being none, I will put that to the

01:42:06.080 --> 01:42:09.080
vote. All those in favor,

01:42:09.440 --> 01:42:12.376
that is carried unanimously.

01:42:12.400 --> 01:42:15.095
Item 12.2, the parking infringement

01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:17.016
reimbursement scheme update. Council

01:42:17.040 --> 01:42:18.936
O'Donnell,

01:42:18.960 --> 01:42:20.536
a deferral until the May council

01:42:20.560 --> 01:42:23.560
meeting.

01:42:24.400 --> 01:42:27.400
Thank you. A seconder. Council Revenus,

01:42:30.159 --> 01:42:33.095
do you wish to speak to the deferral?

01:42:33.119 --> 01:42:36.119
No. Council Revenus reserve.

01:42:36.800 --> 01:42:38.776
Are there any other counselors on the

01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:41.800
deferral?

01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:45.000
Council Sab,

01:42:46.159 --> 01:42:49.159
just a a question through to um the

01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:52.760
council's deferring. Can

01:42:52.960 --> 01:42:55.016
how long are we deferring this item till

01:42:55.040 --> 01:42:57.496
and is it till the May council meeting?

01:42:57.520 --> 01:42:59.736
Okay. Is there an explanation as to why?

01:42:59.760 --> 01:43:01.896
 so there were discussions held prior

01:43:01.920 --> 01:43:03.896
where councilor still had questions in

01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:06.536
relation to this matter. So a deferral

01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:09.496
was proposed.

01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:11.496
Okay. Thank you.

01:43:11.520 --> 01:43:12.856
Are there any other councils on the

01:43:12.880 --> 01:43:15.880
deferral?

01:43:16.480 --> 01:43:17.816
There being none, I will put that to the

01:43:17.840 --> 01:43:20.840
vote. All those in favor

01:43:22.800 --> 01:43:24.856
that is councelor how councelor

01:43:24.880 --> 01:43:26.695
O'Donnell councelor Athenosopouloolis

01:43:26.719 --> 01:43:28.856
councelor Agirtan councelor Reanus

01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:31.880
councelor Hill and myself all those

01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:34.856
against

01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:37.655
council Ashworth Colette and abstaining

01:43:37.679 --> 01:43:40.679
councelor Sab

01:43:41.280 --> 01:43:44.280
and that is carried

01:43:44.719 --> 01:43:47.719
we'll move to item 13.1 which is the

01:43:48.480 --> 01:43:50.536
notice of motion from councelor Sab

01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:53.175
supporting our diverse community.

01:43:53.199 --> 01:43:56.199
this agenda item has been deferred from

01:43:57.440 --> 01:44:00.440
the October ordinary council meeting. Um

01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:02.776
and it was previously moved by councelor

01:44:02.800 --> 01:44:05.800
Sab and councelor Hill.

01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:07.976
So councelor Sab has spoken to this

01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:10.615
motion as the mover. Councelor Hill as

01:44:10.639 --> 01:44:13.336
the second reserved his right. and

01:44:13.360 --> 01:44:14.776
then the motion was subsequently

01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:17.095
deferred from there. So we resume at the

01:44:17.119 --> 01:44:20.119
point of the deferral. So the motion

01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:22.856
has already been moved and then

01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:25.880
seconded. Councelor SA question.

01:44:28.159 --> 01:44:31.159
I'd just like to move an amendment.

01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:34.536
Yes. And that amendment being

01:44:34.560 --> 01:44:37.560
an additional 7 that I can read out.

01:44:39.040 --> 01:44:41.095
Yes.

01:44:41.119 --> 01:44:43.896
 to receive a report back on

01:44:43.920 --> 01:44:46.135
initiatives that engage with our

01:44:46.159 --> 01:44:48.536
multicultural and interfaith community

01:44:48.560 --> 01:44:51.560
groups.

01:44:55.040 --> 01:44:57.496
I I'll read it slowly. Sorry. Receive a

01:44:57.520 --> 01:45:00.520
report back on initiatives that engage

01:45:01.040 --> 01:45:04.040
with multicultural

01:45:06.639 --> 01:45:09.639
and interfaith community groups.

01:45:11.920 --> 01:45:14.920
that promote harmony and safety

01:45:18.880 --> 01:45:21.880
as well as on

01:45:22.639 --> 01:45:25.639
how we can further enhance

01:45:31.280 --> 01:45:33.976
intercultural and interfaith thinking

01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:37.000
and promote understanding.

01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:42.199
through.

01:45:49.280 --> 01:45:52.280
 service offerings

01:45:54.719 --> 01:45:57.175
such as

01:45:57.199 --> 01:46:00.199
more frequent interfaith bus tours,

01:46:04.159 --> 01:46:06.536
comma,

01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:09.496
supporting/running events that celebrate

01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:11.416
our City's diversity and diverse

01:46:11.440 --> 01:46:14.440
community

01:46:19.360 --> 01:46:22.360
and promotes

01:46:25.280 --> 01:46:27.736
social sorry.

01:46:27.760 --> 01:46:29.336
Yeah. and promote social cohesion and

01:46:29.360 --> 01:46:32.360
harmony like refugee week

01:46:38.639 --> 01:46:41.639
and other such opportunities

01:46:42.080 --> 01:46:45.080
including

01:46:47.199 --> 01:46:50.199
better multi- language service delivery.

01:46:58.400 --> 01:47:01.400
That's it.

01:47:04.239 --> 01:47:07.239
 thank you

01:47:07.840 --> 01:47:09.416
to report regarding initiatives that

01:47:09.440 --> 01:47:12.440
engage.

01:47:17.520 --> 01:47:19.576
 so councelor Hill is that acceptable

01:47:19.600 --> 01:47:22.600
to you as the second?

01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:25.175
Yes.

01:47:25.199 --> 01:47:27.896
Thank you. So that

01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:30.920
becomes part of the motion.

01:47:37.440 --> 01:47:40.440
I'll come to you.

01:47:51.280 --> 01:47:54.280
Oh, that's confusing numbering.

01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:08.056
While governance, fix the numbering.

01:48:08.080 --> 01:48:11.080
Councelor O'Donnell.

01:48:12.320 --> 01:48:15.320
, you can. Yes.

01:48:19.199 --> 01:48:20.456
just with your microphone on when you

01:48:20.480 --> 01:48:23.480
do.

01:48:24.080 --> 01:48:25.256
Thank you, Mayor Oxy. I'd just like to

01:48:25.280 --> 01:48:28.280
move a further further amendment to.3

01:48:31.600 --> 01:48:33.976
just to change rather than commit its

01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:35.496
support

01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:37.655
reaffirm.

01:48:37.679 --> 01:48:39.416
So changing the word commit to reaffirm.

01:48:39.440 --> 01:48:41.336
Yes. because I strongly believe that we

01:48:41.360 --> 01:48:43.496
already

01:48:43.520 --> 01:48:45.095
are practicing this.

01:48:45.119 --> 01:48:45.816
Thank you.

01:48:45.840 --> 01:48:46.536
Thank you.

01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:48.776
Is that amendment acceptable? Council SA

01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:51.800
as the mover.

01:48:52.400 --> 01:48:55.095
Yes, it was part of the original um

01:48:55.119 --> 01:48:56.695
amendment I moved when we first

01:48:56.719 --> 01:48:59.016
submitted this

01:48:59.040 --> 01:49:02.040
motion, but yes.

01:49:02.480 --> 01:49:03.896
Are you saying the motion is incorrect

01:49:03.920 --> 01:49:05.496
as what's currently on the screen? No,

01:49:05.520 --> 01:49:07.816
it's correct. But I initially requested

01:49:07.840 --> 01:49:10.615
a change of the motion that was printed

01:49:10.639 --> 01:49:12.296
in the agenda at the time that included

01:49:12.320 --> 01:49:14.776
the words reaffirms, but I'm happy with

01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:16.695
this change.

01:49:16.719 --> 01:49:19.719
Okay, just

01:49:19.760 --> 01:49:22.760
councelor Hill as the seconder.

01:49:22.960 --> 01:49:24.695
Yes, also happy with the change. Thanks.

01:49:24.719 --> 01:49:26.536
Thank you.

01:49:26.560 --> 01:49:29.560
I'll come to you in a second. Just

01:49:30.719 --> 01:49:33.719
just trying to Yeah. getting there.

01:49:35.199 --> 01:49:36.936
So it's accepted by the mover in second.

01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:39.960
So we'll just change that to reaffirm

01:49:41.199 --> 01:49:44.199
in.3.

01:49:59.119 --> 01:50:01.655
Councilless.

01:50:01.679 --> 01:50:03.175
I I was just going to move that the

01:50:03.199 --> 01:50:05.976
motion be put just in light of some of

01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:07.896
the situations that have sort of

01:50:07.920 --> 01:50:09.976
happened. I think maybe too much of a

01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:13.000
debate on this. Um might not be in

01:50:14.239 --> 01:50:15.736
keeping with great harmony with our

01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:18.135
community.

01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:19.416
So are you moving that the motion be

01:50:19.440 --> 01:50:19.816
put?

01:50:19.840 --> 01:50:20.215
Yes.

01:50:20.239 --> 01:50:22.776
Wonderful.

01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:25.016
Seconding council.

01:50:25.040 --> 01:50:26.936
No, I have to deal with the put motion

01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:29.256
first. Um and then if the put motion is

01:50:29.280 --> 01:50:30.615
accepted then there's no more discussion

01:50:30.639 --> 01:50:31.896
on this. There's nothing else further

01:50:31.920 --> 01:50:34.695
that will be debated. So,

01:50:34.719 --> 01:50:36.695
so if there was anything further, you'd

01:50:36.719 --> 01:50:39.016
need to vote against a put motion, but a

01:50:39.040 --> 01:50:40.456
put motion has to be dealt with first.

01:50:40.480 --> 01:50:42.056
We have to deal with that immediately as

01:50:42.080 --> 01:50:45.080
it's as it's been put., so procedural

01:50:45.119 --> 01:50:47.016
motion by councelor Athanasopoulos that the item

01:50:47.040 --> 01:50:48.776
be put. Do I have a seconder for the put

01:50:48.800 --> 01:50:51.576
motion?

01:50:51.600 --> 01:50:54.600
Councelor Hill.

01:50:57.440 --> 01:50:59.256
All those in favor that the motion now

01:50:59.280 --> 01:51:01.816
be put

01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:03.655
that is councelor Athanasopoulos

01:51:03.679 --> 01:51:05.256
councelor Ashworth Colette councelor

01:51:05.280 --> 01:51:07.976
Hill and councelor Sab. All those

01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:10.056
against

01:51:10.080 --> 01:51:11.896
that is councelor how councelor

01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:13.736
O'Donnell councelor Agirtan councelor

01:51:13.760 --> 01:51:16.215
revitus and myself

01:51:16.239 --> 01:51:19.239
and that put motion is lost.

01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:25.416
, councelor O'Donnell, I think you

01:51:25.440 --> 01:51:27.655
were next. And then councelor 10,

01:51:27.679 --> 01:51:30.135
I move that we vote in parts, please.

01:51:30.159 --> 01:51:31.896
To request that that be voted in parts.

01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:34.920
Is that all seven points in parts?

01:51:34.960 --> 01:51:37.336
Yes. Thank you.

01:51:37.360 --> 01:51:40.360
Can we just scroll up just for a second?

01:51:41.679 --> 01:51:43.655
, just so I can check that they don't

01:51:43.679 --> 01:51:45.336
each.

01:51:45.360 --> 01:51:48.360
Keep scrolling, please. Thank you.

01:51:52.320 --> 01:51:54.296
 yes, I'm happy to put all of those in

01:51:54.320 --> 01:51:56.936
parts. council Agirtan, an amendment

01:51:56.960 --> 01:51:59.575
you wanting to move.

01:51:59.599 --> 01:52:01.976
Thank you. If it is acceptable to move

01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:05.000
and second, are we able to insert um

01:52:05.040 --> 01:52:08.040
under point one um after including

01:52:08.960 --> 01:52:11.736
ideologies of hate such as anti-semitism

01:52:11.760 --> 01:52:13.896
and Islamophobia

01:52:13.920 --> 01:52:16.056
which seem to be missing that the

01:52:16.080 --> 01:52:19.080
council ultimately should condemn. part

01:52:19.280 --> 01:52:21.016
of the broader commitment to

01:52:21.040 --> 01:52:23.336
supporting um our multicultural

01:52:23.360 --> 01:52:24.856
communities. Thank you.

01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:26.936
Thank you. We'll just get that one. So,

01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:29.256
just including at the end of that point

01:52:29.280 --> 01:52:31.016
racism

01:52:31.040 --> 01:52:34.040
 comma xenophobia, anti-semitism, and

01:52:34.080 --> 01:52:37.080
islamophobia.

01:52:48.320 --> 01:52:49.976
Thank you. Is that acceptable? Councelor

01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:53.000
Sab as the mover.

01:52:53.599 --> 01:52:56.536
Yes. Councelor Hill as the seconder.

01:52:56.560 --> 01:52:57.976
Yes. Fine with that. Thanks.

01:52:58.000 --> 01:52:59.575
Thank you. So that then becomes part of

01:52:59.599 --> 01:53:02.599
the substantive.

01:53:03.199 --> 01:53:06.199
A question council.

01:53:06.239 --> 01:53:09.095
Um just through you madame mayor to

01:53:09.119 --> 01:53:12.119
the relevant officer in terms of.7

01:53:13.199 --> 01:53:16.199
um have any discussions

01:53:17.040 --> 01:53:20.040
took place regarding the cost of the

01:53:20.320 --> 01:53:23.320
initiatives that 7 speaks to. Thank you

01:53:29.280 --> 01:53:30.695
Miss Waters. I'm assuming that would

01:53:30.719 --> 01:53:33.719
just be part of the report.

01:53:34.480 --> 01:53:36.296
 just as to whether any dis

01:53:36.320 --> 01:53:38.056
discussions on costs have been had but

01:53:38.080 --> 01:53:39.575
I'm assuming given it was an amendment

01:53:39.599 --> 01:53:41.655
evening that it part of the report.

01:53:41.679 --> 01:53:43.496
Yeah. So that would be part of the

01:53:43.520 --> 01:53:46.520
report should that item be carried.

01:53:47.520 --> 01:53:50.520
Thank you. Are there any other speakers

01:53:51.040 --> 01:53:54.040
to this matter?

01:53:56.239 --> 01:53:57.976
There being none, council sa, do you

01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:01.000
wish to close?

01:54:02.639 --> 01:54:05.639
Just really briefly,

01:54:05.679 --> 01:54:08.296
I think my counselor colleagues fully

01:54:08.320 --> 01:54:09.736
understand the current climate and

01:54:09.760 --> 01:54:11.816
environment that the world is in right

01:54:11.840 --> 01:54:14.376
now and it calls for leadership from all

01:54:14.400 --> 01:54:16.456
walks of life from people from local to

01:54:16.480 --> 01:54:18.936
state to federal to come together and

01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:20.456
understand and acknowledge that there is

01:54:20.480 --> 01:54:21.976
a lot of hurt at the moment. There is a

01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:25.000
lot of concern. Um there is a whole

01:54:25.119 --> 01:54:27.575
range of issues that are globally are

01:54:27.599 --> 01:54:28.776
happening across the world but they're

01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:30.215
affecting us here locally and we're

01:54:30.239 --> 01:54:32.615
seeing that in things such as even just

01:54:32.639 --> 01:54:35.639
our fuel costs. Um but I think further

01:54:35.679 --> 01:54:37.095
than that I think it's really important

01:54:37.119 --> 01:54:38.615
to understand when we look at a local

01:54:38.639 --> 01:54:39.976
level that there are members of our

01:54:40.000 --> 01:54:42.296
community that are feeling particularly

01:54:42.320 --> 01:54:44.135
like they don't belong that they don't

01:54:44.159 --> 01:54:46.056
feel like they are welcome here. and

01:54:46.080 --> 01:54:47.816
I think this motion will go a really

01:54:47.840 --> 01:54:50.376
long way um in actually demonstrating

01:54:50.400 --> 01:54:51.816
and especially when the report comes

01:54:51.840 --> 01:54:54.456
back and the opportunities for what

01:54:54.480 --> 01:54:57.336
could exist to support them further um

01:54:57.360 --> 01:54:59.336
and what we can do as a council to to

01:54:59.360 --> 01:55:01.175
actually show leadership in this space.

01:55:01.199 --> 01:55:03.496
Um I know other councils such as

01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:05.175
Glenra have done something a bit more

01:55:05.199 --> 01:55:06.695
involved with in a partnership with

01:55:06.719 --> 01:55:07.976
state government around work around

01:55:08.000 --> 01:55:10.135
social cohesion and I'd really encourage

01:55:10.159 --> 01:55:11.896
our council to work alongside them. I

01:55:11.920 --> 01:55:13.256
know they reached out to us last year

01:55:13.280 --> 01:55:15.175
when that motion was first adopted. Um,

01:55:15.199 --> 01:55:17.016
and this is kind of where this was born

01:55:17.040 --> 01:55:19.896
from. But I do really thank my councelor

01:55:19.920 --> 01:55:21.575
colleagues for their amendments. I think

01:55:21.599 --> 01:55:24.135
they're good a good amendments. They

01:55:24.159 --> 01:55:26.135
were necessary., and I appreciate

01:55:26.159 --> 01:55:28.776
the, um, full comprehensive

01:55:28.800 --> 01:55:30.296
conversations and consultation that

01:55:30.320 --> 01:55:32.296
we've had to date to get here. Um, I

01:55:32.320 --> 01:55:33.575
also just wanted to acknowledge Susan

01:55:33.599 --> 01:55:35.736
Kosh and Kate Waters for um, a lot of

01:55:35.760 --> 01:55:37.016
the work and effort that I know went

01:55:37.040 --> 01:55:38.215
behind the scenes and trying to engage

01:55:38.239 --> 01:55:39.976
with community to get to this point. Um

01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:42.056
and I really do hope that this does get

01:55:42.080 --> 01:55:44.056
resolved and I I really do hope we can

01:55:44.080 --> 01:55:45.575
kind of start working on remending some

01:55:45.599 --> 01:55:47.256
of the relationships with um our

01:55:47.280 --> 01:55:48.456
interfaith and multicultural

01:55:48.480 --> 01:55:50.456
communities. Thank you.

01:55:50.480 --> 01:55:53.256
Thank you councelor S. We'll now put

01:55:53.280 --> 01:55:56.280
these matters to the vote

01:55:58.159 --> 01:56:00.695
starting with point one.

01:56:00.719 --> 01:56:02.615
So that is add as it appears. Councilors

01:56:02.639 --> 01:56:04.536
all those

01:56:04.560 --> 01:56:07.560
in favor

01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:12.456
that is councelor how councelor

01:56:12.480 --> 01:56:14.536
Athanasopoulos councelor Agirtan councelor

01:56:14.560 --> 01:56:16.536
Revenitus councelor Ashworth Colette

01:56:16.560 --> 01:56:19.560
councelor Hill councelor Sab and myself

01:56:20.239 --> 01:56:22.536
all those against

01:56:22.560 --> 01:56:25.560
and abstaining councelor O'Donnell

01:56:26.320 --> 01:56:29.320
that item is carried

01:56:31.840 --> 01:56:34.840
2.

01:56:37.119 --> 01:56:40.056
All those in favor

01:56:40.080 --> 01:56:41.736
that is what is currently listed there

01:56:41.760 --> 01:56:44.536
as.3.

01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:47.256
All those in favor councilopoulos

01:56:47.280 --> 01:56:48.856
councelor Ashworth Colette councelor

01:56:48.880 --> 01:56:51.880
Hill council sub

01:56:57.920 --> 01:57:00.695
hill and sub. Yep. All those against

01:57:00.719 --> 01:57:02.776
Councelor

01:57:02.800 --> 01:57:05.800
H and abstaining

01:57:06.000 --> 01:57:08.056
councelor O'Donnell, councelor Agirtan,

01:57:08.080 --> 01:57:11.080
councelor Revanus and myself that matter

01:57:11.199 --> 01:57:14.199
is lost.3

01:57:18.800 --> 01:57:21.800
which is now point4

01:57:27.599 --> 01:57:30.135
wonderful.

01:57:30.159 --> 01:57:33.159
All those in favor?

01:57:34.719 --> 01:57:37.719
 yes. 3. All those in favor that is

01:57:39.040 --> 01:57:42.040
carried unanimously.

01:57:44.880 --> 01:57:47.880
Point four.

01:57:50.159 --> 01:57:52.536
All it's actually four. All those in

01:57:52.560 --> 01:57:55.416
favor

01:57:55.440 --> 01:57:58.440
that is carried unanimously.

01:58:01.679 --> 01:58:04.679
Five.

01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:31.000
Oh no.

01:58:42.239 --> 01:58:45.175
I I I have to say a big thank you to our

01:58:45.199 --> 01:58:46.776
governance team tonight who are doing an

01:58:46.800 --> 01:58:49.655
incredible job, a very incredible job in

01:58:49.679 --> 01:58:51.976
managing all of this. So we'll put 0

01:58:52.000 --> 01:58:55.000
five to the vote. All those in favor

01:58:56.800 --> 01:58:58.936
that is councelor how councelor

01:58:58.960 --> 01:59:01.095
Athanasopoulos councelor Ashworth Colette

01:59:01.119 --> 01:59:04.056
councel Hill councelor Sab

01:59:04.080 --> 01:59:06.135
all those against

01:59:06.159 --> 01:59:08.776
and abstaining that is councelor

01:59:08.800 --> 01:59:10.856
O'Donnell councelor Agirtan councelor

01:59:10.880 --> 01:59:13.880
Reanus and myself that is carried

01:59:21.040 --> 01:59:23.575
six.

01:59:23.599 --> 01:59:26.599
Even I'm getting confused.

01:59:38.400 --> 01:59:41.095
, Sab Hill,

01:59:41.119 --> 01:59:44.119
sorry.

01:59:46.480 --> 01:59:48.376
Thank you.

01:59:48.400 --> 01:59:50.615
We'll put 6 to the vote. All those in

01:59:50.639 --> 01:59:53.639
favor

01:59:54.159 --> 01:59:55.816
that is councelor Athanasopoulos,

01:59:55.840 --> 01:59:57.336
councelor Ashworth, Colette, councelor

01:59:57.360 --> 02:00:00.360
Hill, councelor Sab. All those against

02:00:01.760 --> 02:00:04.760
councelor How and abstaining

02:00:05.360 --> 02:00:07.095
councelor O'Donnell, councelor Agirtan,

02:00:07.119 --> 02:00:09.896
councelor Reminitus and myself that is

02:00:09.920 --> 02:00:12.920
lost

02:00:13.840 --> 02:00:16.840
and 7

02:00:26.480 --> 02:00:29.480
We

02:00:32.000 --> 02:00:34.456
will now put 7 to the vote. All those in

02:00:34.480 --> 02:00:37.480
favor

02:00:37.760 --> 02:00:39.496
that is councelor how councelor

02:00:39.520 --> 02:00:41.896
Athanasopoulos councelor Agirtan councelor

02:00:41.920 --> 02:00:43.896
Ashworth Colette councelor Hill

02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:46.920
councelor Sab and myself all those

02:00:47.040 --> 02:00:49.016
against

02:00:49.040 --> 02:00:51.816
and abstaining. Councelor O'Donnell

02:00:51.840 --> 02:00:54.840
councelor Evanus and that is carried.

02:00:55.679 --> 02:00:57.016
Right, we did all of it. I'm just

02:00:57.040 --> 02:00:59.016
checking.

02:00:59.040 --> 02:01:00.536
Thank you governance for your patience

02:01:00.560 --> 02:01:03.175
and wonderful work.

02:01:03.199 --> 02:01:06.199
Are there any items of urgent business?

02:01:09.119 --> 02:01:10.215
Council sub.

02:01:10.239 --> 02:01:13.239
Sorry, just a question. May I apolog?

02:01:21.520 --> 02:01:24.520
 so the matter was deferred at the

02:01:25.599 --> 02:01:28.599
October council meeting and the matter

02:01:29.040 --> 02:01:30.856
that was deferred was not what was

02:01:30.880 --> 02:01:32.536
printed in the agenda was a separate

02:01:32.560 --> 02:01:34.776
matter that was moved. So the agenda is

02:01:34.800 --> 02:01:37.016
not the motion that we just voted on.

02:01:37.040 --> 02:01:39.816
Okay. Thank you.

02:01:39.840 --> 02:01:41.575
If there are no items of urgent

02:01:41.599 --> 02:01:43.655
business, can I please have a motion to

02:01:43.679 --> 02:01:45.816
move into confidential? Moved councelor

02:01:45.840 --> 02:01:48.135
O'Donnell and seconded councelor How.

02:01:48.159 --> 02:01:51.159
All those in favor

02:01:53.119 --> 02:01:55.976
that is councelor how councelor

02:01:56.000 --> 02:01:58.296
O'Donnell councelor Fanosopoulos

02:01:58.320 --> 02:02:00.056
councelor Agirtan councelor Revanus

02:02:00.080 --> 02:02:01.496
councelor Ashworth Klet councelor Hill

02:02:01.520 --> 02:02:03.976
and myself and councelor Sam that's

02:02:04.000 --> 02:02:06.376
carried unanimously.

02:02:06.400 --> 02:02:08.215
Thank you and thank you to all the

02:02:08.239 --> 02:02:09.336
members of our gallery that have been

02:02:09.360 --> 02:02:10.936
with us this evening and to all of those

02:02:10.960 --> 02:02:12.615
watching at home. Thank you once again

02:02:12.639 --> 02:02:14.615
for your attendance and participation.

02:02:14.639 --> 02:02:17.639
Have a lovely evening.